I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!

We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
folks now, I wonder? LOL.
Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in whatever
sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions. Comes with white
rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14) which was delicious
and comes with nice peppers and flavored with spices and lemon grass. We
both split the two entrees between. For sides we ordered the half
servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of
which were generous enough for 3 people so we had enough to take
leftover veggies home. For dessert we shared the Banana Spring Rolls
($6) which were large pieces of banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then
fried. They are served with fresh berries (the blackberries were to die
for!) and coconut ice cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly
recommend it!
Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the onset
and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping our iced
tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance asking how
things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite in your mouth
and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can live with that.
The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a $12 tip in
appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert and I
gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave as soon
as we were done and ready.
The leftovers were delicious this morning

On Jul 24, 8:02�pm, Goomba > wrote:
> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>
> � � � � We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> folks now, I wonder? LOL.
> � � � � Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
> lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in whatever
> sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions. Comes with white
> rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14) which was delicious
> and comes with nice peppers and flavored with spices and lemon grass. We
> both split the two entrees between. For sides we ordered the half
> servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and Sichuan �Asparagus ($3), both of
> which were generous enough for 3 people so we had enough to take
> leftover veggies home. �For dessert we shared the Banana Spring Rolls
> ($6) which were large pieces of banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then
> fried. They are served with fresh berries (the blackberries were to die
> for!) and coconut ice cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly
> recommend it!
> � � � � Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
> I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the onset
> and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping our iced
> tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance asking how
> things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite in your mouth
> and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can live with that.
> � � � � The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a $12 tip in
> appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
> letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
> set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
> expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
> linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
> abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert and I
> gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave as soon
> as we were done and ready.
> � � � � The leftovers were delicious this morning

Glad to hear someone else enjoys PF CHangs-I like them too, especially
the lettuce chicken wraps!! Try them next time.Also I love the brown
rice, instead of white rice, it tastes really good with the spicey
foods!

Rosie

rosie wrote:

> Glad to hear someone else enjoys PF CHangs-I like them too, especially
> the lettuce chicken wraps!! Try them next time.Also I love the brown
> rice, instead of white rice, it tastes really good with the spicey
> foods!
>
> Rosie

Oh yeah, I've had those there. The chicken is very good on its own and I
like to eat it with the rice, but I found the other ingredients on the
platter for the wrap a bit plain.
Cheesecake Factory does a VERY tasty lettuce wrap appetizer. Give them a
try sometime (just don't look for Dr. Pepper or half orders of Alfredo
there, LOL)

Goomba wrote:
> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>
> We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> folks now, I wonder? LOL.
> Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
> lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
> whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
> Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
> which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
> spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
> sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
> Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
> people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
> we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
> banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
> fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
> cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
> Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
> I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the
> onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping
> our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance
> asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite
> in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can
> live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a $12
> tip in
> appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
> letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
> set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
> expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
> linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
> abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert
> and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave
> as soon as we were done and ready.
> The leftovers were delicious this morning

I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and other
groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your post. Kinda
pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local Chinese place and
that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu pork with white rice
included. I couldn't eat it all.

I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles away,
so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)

kili

On Thu 24 Jul 2008 07:27:49p, kilikini told us...

> Goomba wrote:
>> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>>
>> We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
>> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
>> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
>> folks now, I wonder? LOL.
>> Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
>> lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
>> whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
>> Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
>> which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
>> spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
>> sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
>> Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
>> people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
>> we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
>> banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
>> fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
>> cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
>> Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
>> I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the
>> onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping
>> our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance
>> asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite
>> in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can
>> live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a
>> $12 tip in
>> appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
>> letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
>> set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
>> expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
>> linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
>> abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert
>> and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave
>> as soon as we were done and ready.
>> The leftovers were delicious this morning
>
> I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and other
> groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your post.
> Kinda pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local Chinese
> place and that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu pork with
> white rice included. I couldn't eat it all.
>
> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles
> away, so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)
>
> kili

It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices. I
really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I could. I
really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they aren't actually
that expensive when compared to others, but it's still over my budget for
more than an occasional stop.

Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.

In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too much.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Thursday, 07(VII)/24(XXIV)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
UFO's are real: the Air Force doesn't
exist.
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kilikini wrote:

> Goomba wrote:
> > I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
> >
> > We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> > the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> > PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> > folks now, I wonder? LOL.
> > Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
> > lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
> > whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
> > Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
> > which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
> > spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
> > sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
> > Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
> > people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
> > we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
> > banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
> > fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
> > cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
> > Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
> > I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the
> > onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping
> > our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance
> > asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite
> > in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can
> > live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a
$12
> > tip in
> > appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
> > letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
> > set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
> > expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
> > linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
> > abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert
> > and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave
> > as soon as we were done and ready.
> > The leftovers were delicious this morning
>
> I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and other
> groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your post.
Kinda
> pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local Chinese place
and
> that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu pork with white rice
> included. I couldn't eat it all.



Same here, I can get a boatload of food for a bunch of peeps at the local
Viet or Thai or Chinese BBQ places for what PF Chang's charges...but PF is
often probably the best bet for "Chinese" food in a particular locale, they
are consistent and offer decent product for the money...

One of my pet peeves are these Chinese carry - out places that have TERRIBLE
food, and at PF Chang's prices or more. I've bitched about it before,
what's up with that...!!!??? I'd take PF's over these dubious joints any
day...


> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles
away,
> so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)


IIRC there is one in downtown Chicawgo here, might have to give it a try.
Might be good for a birthday dinner for those less "adventurous" eaters I
know. The Chinese joints I frequent have stuff like pig intestine, beef
tendon, chicken feet, pig ear soup, etc. Poultry is hacked. Can be
offputting to the less "sophisticated" set, if ya know what I mean. Not to
mention the total lack 'o ambience...but then that's why they are dirt -
cheap.

:-)


--
Best
Greg

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Thu 24 Jul 2008 07:27:49p, kilikini told us...
>
> > Goomba wrote:
> >> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
> >>
> >> We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> >> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> >> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> >> folks now, I wonder? LOL.
> >> Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
> >> lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
> >> whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
> >> Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
> >> which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
> >> spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
> >> sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
> >> Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
> >> people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
> >> we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
> >> banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
> >> fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
> >> cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
> >> Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
> >> I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the
> >> onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping
> >> our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance
> >> asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite
> >> in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can
> >> live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a
> >> $12 tip in
> >> appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
> >> letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
> >> set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
> >> expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
> >> linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
> >> abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert
> >> and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave
> >> as soon as we were done and ready.
> >> The leftovers were delicious this morning
> >
> > I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and other
> > groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your post.
> > Kinda pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local Chinese
> > place and that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu pork with
> > white rice included. I couldn't eat it all.
> >
> > I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles
> > away, so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)
> >
> > kili
>
> It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices. I
> really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I could. I
> really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they aren't actually
> that expensive when compared to others, but it's still over my budget for
> more than an occasional stop.
>
> Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
> Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.
>
> In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
> frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too much.

You could visit their Pei Wei diners, faster and cheaper, and the same
ownership.

On Jul 24, 9:59 pm, rosie > wrote:
> On Jul 24, 8:02�pm, Goomba > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>
> > � � � � We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> > the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> > PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> > folks now, I wonder? LOL.
> > � � � � Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
> > lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in whatever
> > sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions. Comes with white
> > rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14) which was delicious
> > and comes with nice peppers and flavored with spices and lemon grass. We
> > both split the two entrees between. For sides we ordered the half
> > servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and Sichuan �Asparagus ($3), both of
> > which were generous enough for 3 people so we had enough to take
> > leftover veggies home. �For dessert we shared the Banana Spring Rolls
> > ($6) which were large pieces of banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then
> > fried. They are served with fresh berries (the blackberries were to die
> > for!) and coconut ice cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly
> > recommend it!
> > � � � � Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright happy.
> > I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at the onset
> > and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while keeping our iced
> > tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a nuisance asking how
> > things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you put a bite in your mouth
> > and can't speak. I think she asked just once? I can live with that.
> > � � � � The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us, and I left a $12 tip in
> > appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
> > letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
> > set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
> > expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We could
> > linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events" was
> > abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served dessert and I
> > gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free to leave as soon
> > as we were done and ready.
> > � � � � The leftovers were delicious this morning
>
> Glad to hear someone else enjoys PF CHangs-I like them too, especially
> the lettuce chicken wraps!! Try them next time.Also I love the brown
> rice, instead of white rice, it tastes really good with the spicey
> foods!
>
> Rosie

If you're not expecting Chinese food, I hear they are good, but on a
mailing list
folks are not happy with PF Changs. Salty, sweet, too much fried.
Their less
formal Pei Wei operations are the same.

The lettuce wraps seem to be universally enjoyed.

maxine in ri
damning with faint praise

On Thu 24 Jul 2008 08:11:55p, Gregory Morrow told us...

>
> kilikini wrote:
>
>> Goomba wrote:
>> > I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>> >
>> > We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
>> > the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
>> > PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
>> > folks now, I wonder? LOL.
>> > Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
>> > lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
>> > whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
>> > Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
>> > which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
>> > spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
>> > sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
>> > Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
>> > people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
>> > we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
>> > banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
>> > fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
>> > cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
>> > Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright
>> > happy. I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at
>> > the onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while
>> > keeping our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a
>> > nuisance asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you
>> > put a bite in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just
>> > once? I can live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of us,
>> > and I left a $12 tip in
>> > appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
>> > letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry helped
>> > set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet the
>> > expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We
>> > could linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or "events"
>> > was abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were served
>> > dessert and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we were free
>> > to leave as soon as we were done and ready.
>> > The leftovers were delicious this morning
>>
>> I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and other
>> groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your post.
>> Kinda pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local Chinese
>> place and that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu pork with
>> white rice included. I couldn't eat it all.
>
>
>
> Same here, I can get a boatload of food for a bunch of peeps at the
> local Viet or Thai or Chinese BBQ places for what PF Chang's
> charges...but PF is often probably the best bet for "Chinese" food in a
> particular locale, they are consistent and offer decent product for the
> money...
>
> One of my pet peeves are these Chinese carry - out places that have
> TERRIBLE food, and at PF Chang's prices or more. I've bitched about it
> before, what's up with that...!!!??? I'd take PF's over these dubious
> joints any day...
>
>
>> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles
>> away, so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)
>
>
> IIRC there is one in downtown Chicawgo here, might have to give it a
> try. Might be good for a birthday dinner for those less "adventurous"
> eaters I know. The Chinese joints I frequent have stuff like pig
> intestine, beef tendon, chicken feet, pig ear soup, etc. Poultry is
> hacked. Can be offputting to the less "sophisticated" set, if ya know
> what I mean. Not to mention the total lack 'o ambience...but then
> that's why they are dirt - cheap.
>
>:-)
>
>

I have two favorites in Mesa, China China, which is a traditional Cantonese
place and the execution of all their dishes is perfection. Not an
adventurous place, but delicious food. The other is Best Hong Kong Dining,
which has probably 90% or better Chinese clientele. They have tanks of
fresh fish and seafood for the choosing, hanging ducks, and more unusual
items on the menu than I've ever experienced. I was introduced to that
place by a Chinese coworker. It's a great adventure every time I go.
Neither of these places is particularly expensive, and there's always more
served than one can eat on spot. It's nice to take home leftovers for the
next day.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Thursday, 07(VII)/24(XXIV)/08(MMVIII)
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When Daddy is cleaning the gutters,
cats must nap on the ladder steps.
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On Thu 24 Jul 2008 08:17:10p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Thu 24 Jul 2008 07:27:49p, kilikini told us...
>>
>> > Goomba wrote:
>> >> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>> >>
>> >> We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
>> >> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
>> >> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us
>> >> old folks now, I wonder? LOL.
>> >> Anyhooo... I ordered the Kung Po Chicken ($12.50) which comes with
>> >> lovely large pieces of white meat chicken and mildly glazed in
>> >> whatever sauce it uses and garnished with peanuts and scallions.
>> >> Comes with white rice. Husband ordered the Chengdu Spiced Lamb ($14)
>> >> which was delicious and comes with nice peppers and flavored with
>> >> spices and lemon grass. We both split the two entrees between. For
>> >> sides we ordered the half servings of Spicy Green Beans ($3) and
>> >> Sichuan Asparagus ($3), both of which were generous enough for 3
>> >> people so we had enough to take leftover veggies home. For dessert
>> >> we shared the Banana Spring Rolls ($6) which were large pieces of
>> >> banana wrapped in lumpia wrapper then fried. They are served with
>> >> fresh berries (the blackberries were to die for!) and coconut ice
>> >> cream garnished with caramel glaze. I highly recommend it!
>> >> Such a flavorful meal just left me feeling *good* and downright
>> >> happy. I had warned the waitress that we were in a bit of a hurry at
>> >> the onset and she kept things moving at a nice pace all the while
>> >> keeping our iced tea glasses refilled and not being that waitdroid a
>> >> nuisance asking how things were 20 seconds after they arrive or you
>> >> put a bite in your mouth and can't speak. I think she asked just
>> >> once? I can live with that. The bill came to 41.00 for the two of
>> >> us, and I left a $12 tip in
>> >> appreciation for her for taking care of us so efficiently. I think
>> >> letting her know at the onset that we were in a bit of a hurry
>> >> helped set the expectation, and it was so pleasant to have her meet
>> >> the expectation and yet the meal didn't feel unpleasantly rushed. We
>> >> could linger eating, but the waiting time between courses or
>> >> "events" was abbreviated nicely. She brought the bill as we were
>> >> served dessert and I gave her my AMEX to run while we ate, so we
>> >> were free to leave as soon as we were done and ready.
>> >> The leftovers were delicious this morning
>> >
>> > I've heard of P.F. Chang's before, mentioned in other threads and
>> > other groups, but I looked up the menu for the first time after your
>> > post. Kinda pricey, IMO. I paid $5.40 for my lunch today at my local
>> > Chinese place and that was for 2 egg rolls and an order of mu shu
>> > pork with white rice included. I couldn't eat it all.
>> >
>> > I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5
>> > miles away, so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon.
>> > :~)
>> >
>> > kili
>>
>> It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices.
>> I really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I
>> could. I really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they
>> aren't actually that expensive when compared to others, but it's still
>> over my budget for more than an occasional stop.
>>
>> Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>> Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.
>>
>> In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>> frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too
>> much.
>
> You could visit their Pei Wei diners, faster and cheaper, and the same
> ownership.
>

I sometimes go to Pei Wei's for lunch as there is one near my work. I
thoroughly enjoy their food. There's another place near work, China
Chile's, with a much more esoteric menu. Their food is delicious and
average price for lunch.

There are no worthwhile Chinese restaurants near where I live, so it's
either an evening journey to a good place, or a lunchtime treat at places
nearby.

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On Jul 24, 8:26*pm, maxine in ri > wrote:
>
> If you're not expecting Chinese food, I hear they are good, but on a
> mailing list
> folks are not happy with PF Changs. [snip]

I think that sums it up. If it's to your taste, that's good, enjoy
it. If you are looking for actual Chinese food well made, go
somewhere else. -aem

aem > wrote:
> On Jul 24, 8:26 pm, maxine in ri > wrote:
> >
> > If you're not expecting Chinese food, I hear they are good, but on a
> > mailing list
> > folks are not happy with PF Changs. [snip]
>
> I think that sums it up. If it's to your taste, that's good, enjoy
> it. If you are looking for actual Chinese food well made, go
> somewhere else. -aem

So true! Everyone made a big fuss over PF Chang's when it opened in Memphis
so after a few months a friend and I went there for lunch. The food was
just so-so and way overpriced for what it was.

Jill

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:38:51 -0700 (PDT), aem >
wrote:
>On Jul 24, 8:26*pm, maxine in ri > wrote:
>>
>> If you're not expecting Chinese food, I hear they are good, but on a
>> mailing list
>> folks are not happy with PF Changs. [snip]
>
>I think that sums it up. If it's to your taste, that's good, enjoy
>it. If you are looking for actual Chinese food well made, go
>somewhere else.

I agree..Chang is only fern bar pedestrian chinese food. And their
quality varies between locations. Kind of like Olive Garden
opening another can of "something" for fine dining Italian.

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

>
> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles away,
> so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)

Sorry to rain on Goombah's parade, but in my opinion, PF Chang's is not
worth the trip if there are other Chinese restaurants closer to you. I
ate at PF Chang's twice. The first time was about four years ago in
Provo, Utah. That dinner was paid for a business associate. We were a
group of 30 people, so a challenge to serve. The food was fine and the
service excellent. I never saw the bill though.

The second time I ate at a PF Chang's was about a year after the first
visit, at the one near where I live in Cherry Hill, NJ. I paid for that
meal, so I realized, they are way overpriced. I was there with some
friends who wanted to try it, otherwise, I would have decided not to eat
there at all. The food and service were fine, but I can get great
Chinese food at other places in my area for half of what I would spend
at PF Chang's.

I live near Philadelphia. If I want good Chinese food, its a 20 minute
drive to Philadelphia's Chinatown. There's also a Chinese restaurant
called the Szezwan (sp?) Garden about two miles from me that's owned by
the family of a buddy with whom I play cards. The food there is great
and inexpensive. Two weeks ago, I got takeout from the wonton soup,
steamed chicken with snow peas, white rice, an egg roll, and beef
skewers for $20. I had enough for two meals. When my friends and I had a
poker tournament, they catered it and everyone was happy with the food.

I can also dine on other kinds of Asian cuisine too, so I have no plans
to dine at PF Chang's again. For example, two weeks ago, a friend and I
had lunch at a Vietnamese place in Chinatown. Our total bill was a
little under $20. I had some kind of chicken dish over broken white
rice. My friend had some kind of Vietnamese noodle soup with chicken in
it that looked pretty good.

Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles away,
>> so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)
>
> Sorry to rain on Goombah's parade, but in my opinion, PF Chang's is not
> worth the trip if there are other Chinese restaurants closer to you. I
> ate at PF Chang's twice. The first time was about four years ago in
> Provo, Utah. That dinner was paid for a business associate. We were a
> group of 30 people, so a challenge to serve. The food was fine and the
> service excellent. I never saw the bill though.
>
> The second time I ate at a PF Chang's was about a year after the first
> visit, at the one near where I live in Cherry Hill, NJ. I paid for that
> meal, so I realized, they are way overpriced. I was there with some
> friends who wanted to try it, otherwise, I would have decided not to eat
> there at all. The food and service were fine, but I can get great
> Chinese food at other places in my area for half of what I would spend
> at PF Chang's.
>
> I live near Philadelphia. If I want good Chinese food, its a 20 minute
> drive to Philadelphia's Chinatown. There's also a Chinese restaurant
> called the Szezwan (sp?) Garden about two miles from me that's owned by
> the family of a buddy with whom I play cards. The food there is great
> and inexpensive. Two weeks ago, I got takeout from the wonton soup,
> steamed chicken with snow peas, white rice, an egg roll, and beef
> skewers for $20. I had enough for two meals. When my friends and I had a
> poker tournament, they catered it and everyone was happy with the food.
>
> I can also dine on other kinds of Asian cuisine too, so I have no plans
> to dine at PF Chang's again. For example, two weeks ago, a friend and I
> had lunch at a Vietnamese place in Chinatown. Our total bill was a
> little under $20. I had some kind of chicken dish over broken white
> rice. My friend had some kind of Vietnamese noodle soup with chicken in
> it that looked pretty good.

I agree with your thinking. If I want good Asian food there are just too
many fantastic mom & pop type places around with better quality
authentic food that are also less expensive. The other night we had a
great Vietnamese grilled pork chop dinners and the tab for two was $20.

On Fri 25 Jul 2008 06:34:53a, George told us...

> Stan Horwitz wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "kilikini" > wrote:
>>
>>> I looked up the nearest P.F. Chang's location to me at it's 47.5 miles
>>> away, so I don't expect we'll be visiting it any time soon. :~)
>>
>> Sorry to rain on Goombah's parade, but in my opinion, PF Chang's is not
>> worth the trip if there are other Chinese restaurants closer to you. I
>> ate at PF Chang's twice. The first time was about four years ago in
>> Provo, Utah. That dinner was paid for a business associate. We were a
>> group of 30 people, so a challenge to serve. The food was fine and the
>> service excellent. I never saw the bill though.
>>
>> The second time I ate at a PF Chang's was about a year after the first
>> visit, at the one near where I live in Cherry Hill, NJ. I paid for that
>> meal, so I realized, they are way overpriced. I was there with some
>> friends who wanted to try it, otherwise, I would have decided not to
>> eat there at all. The food and service were fine, but I can get great
>> Chinese food at other places in my area for half of what I would spend
>> at PF Chang's.
>>
>> I live near Philadelphia. If I want good Chinese food, its a 20 minute
>> drive to Philadelphia's Chinatown. There's also a Chinese restaurant
>> called the Szezwan (sp?) Garden about two miles from me that's owned by
>> the family of a buddy with whom I play cards. The food there is great
>> and inexpensive. Two weeks ago, I got takeout from the wonton soup,
>> steamed chicken with snow peas, white rice, an egg roll, and beef
>> skewers for $20. I had enough for two meals. When my friends and I had
>> a poker tournament, they catered it and everyone was happy with the
>> food.
>>
>> I can also dine on other kinds of Asian cuisine too, so I have no plans
>> to dine at PF Chang's again. For example, two weeks ago, a friend and I
>> had lunch at a Vietnamese place in Chinatown. Our total bill was a
>> little under $20. I had some kind of chicken dish over broken white
>> rice. My friend had some kind of Vietnamese noodle soup with chicken in
>> it that looked pretty good.
>
> I agree with your thinking. If I want good Asian food there are just too
> many fantastic mom & pop type places around with better quality
> authentic food that are also less expensive. The other night we had a
> great Vietnamese grilled pork chop dinners and the tab for two was $20.
>

In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a decent
and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe priorities.
Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal she and her husband
had sounded delicious.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 25 Jul 2008 06:34:53a, George told us...
>
>> Stan Horwitz wrote:

>> I agree with your thinking. If I want good Asian food there are just too
>> many fantastic mom & pop type places around with better quality
>> authentic food that are also less expensive. The other night we had a
>> great Vietnamese grilled pork chop dinners and the tab for two was $20.
>>
>
> In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a decent
> and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe priorities.
> Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
> different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal she and her husband
> had sounded delicious.
>
Right you are, Wayne. It was a good place with really good food but I
wasn't striving for "Chinese" food. I wanted something with vegetables
more than anything else. If I wanted just cheap Chinese food I could go
to any number of local Mom&Pops, but that isn't the same nor what we
wanted. I loved that the chicken pieces were large and obviously not
"formed meat" such as one gets at an Applebees or Chilis type
restaurant. The lamb tender and flavorful. In the middle of Georgia,
finding lamb anything on a menu is always a plus in my book! The
vegetables were crisp, fresh and colorful and EVERYTHING tasted
fabulous. Just what I wanted and nothing more! I didn't leave smelling
like a chinese stir fry house, nor feeling I'd eaten greasy food. I left
feeling just wonderfully sated and pleased. I didn't feel the prices
were out of line for the quality meal we received, nor the ambiance of
the surroundings.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
> different than the usual Chinese restaurant.

Other than adding more sugar to everything, how is it different?

Steve

On Jul 25, 9:11*am, Goomba > wrote:
>
> Right you are, Wayne. It was a good place with really good food but I
> wasn't striving for "Chinese" food.... [snip].... In the middle of Georgia,
> ...[snip]

And right you are, too. Since railroad-building and gold-mining days
American Chinese food has been simplified and moderated such that some
Chinese restarateurs make an accepted distinction between "American
taste" and "Chinese taste." It takes a large Chinese population to
support restaurants that offer "Chinese taste" menus. There are a few
such places scattered around the country, while everywhere else the
offerings are familiar and ordinary.

This is a link to a fairly long article that appeared in Gourmet
magazine a few years ago about the San Gaabriel Valley here in the
L.A. area. It gives as good a set of descriptions as I've seen of
what "Chinese taste" cuisines has to offer if you're lucky enough to
live nearby or to visit. -aem
http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2003/10/warriors

On Fri 25 Jul 2008 09:11:18a, Goomba told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 25 Jul 2008 06:34:53a, George told us...
>>
>>> Stan Horwitz wrote:
>
>>> I agree with your thinking. If I want good Asian food there are just
>>> too many fantastic mom & pop type places around with better quality
>>> authentic food that are also less expensive. The other night we had a
>>> great Vietnamese grilled pork chop dinners and the tab for two was
>>> $20.
>>>
>>
>> In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a
>> decent and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe
>> priorities. Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and
>> always a bit different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal she
>> and her husband had sounded delicious.
>>
> Right you are, Wayne. It was a good place with really good food but I
> wasn't striving for "Chinese" food. I wanted something with vegetables
> more than anything else. If I wanted just cheap Chinese food I could go
> to any number of local Mom&Pops, but that isn't the same nor what we
> wanted. I loved that the chicken pieces were large and obviously not
> "formed meat" such as one gets at an Applebees or Chilis type
> restaurant. The lamb tender and flavorful. In the middle of Georgia,
> finding lamb anything on a menu is always a plus in my book! The
> vegetables were crisp, fresh and colorful and EVERYTHING tasted
> fabulous. Just what I wanted and nothing more! I didn't leave smelling
> like a chinese stir fry house, nor feeling I'd eaten greasy food. I left
> feeling just wonderfully sated and pleased. I didn't feel the prices
> were out of line for the quality meal we received, nor the ambiance of
> the surroundings.
>

And that's as it should be.

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On Fri 25 Jul 2008 09:21:03a, Steve Pope told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
>> different than the usual Chinese restaurant.
>
> Other than adding more sugar to everything, how is it different?
>
> Steve

First, I wouldn't say they add more sugar to everything, but I don't have
their recipes. Their menu is notably different than the usual stir-fry
joints. If your intent is to criticize, be more specific. I have no need
or obligation to defend Chang's.

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Steve Pope wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
>> different than the usual Chinese restaurant.
>
> Other than adding more sugar to everything, how is it different?
>
> Steve

Hmmmm..nothing I ate had a unnatural or unexpected sweetness to it?
Did you eat something sweet there that was odd?

The dessert had lovely coconut ice cream and a caramel sauce decorating
the plate, but that was the only sweetened part of the meal we ate. The
big fat blackberries, sliced strawberries and blueberries were all
unaltered and a lovely part of the dessert.

Goomba > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> Other than adding more sugar to everything, how is it different?

>Hmmmm..nothing I ate had a unnatural or unexpected sweetness to it?
>Did you eat something sweet there that was odd?

My one time at a Changs, my impression was the savory dishes
were unusually sweet, but that could have been random chance
rather than a trend.

Steve

Wayne Boatwright wrote:


>
> In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a decent
> and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe priorities.
> Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and always a bit
> different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal she and her husband
> had sounded delicious.
>


As I wrote recently to Goomba:

We like it very much, also. We've never had a bad meal there.
That is more than I can say for all the local Chinese restaurants
which all now seem to change cooks and recipes often so you never know
what you are getting. Even if you ordered the same thing last week you
may be served something very different--maybe better, maybe worse.
At least in my experience, Chang's is consistent.

gloria p

Gloria P wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a
>> decent and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe
>> priorities. Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and
>> always a bit different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal
>> she and her husband had sounded delicious.

> We like it very much, also. We've never had a bad meal there.
> That is more than I can say for all the local Chinese restaurants
> which all now seem to change cooks and recipes often so you never know
> what you are getting. Even if you ordered the same thing last week you
> may be served something very different--maybe better, maybe worse.
> At least in my experience, Chang's is consistent.

I am owed a trip to PF Changs, after these comments I'm interested
to see what it's like. I didn't expect Chinese food, I thought it was
more asian inspired, not specifically any particular cuisine. The PF
is some guy's initials, American sounding.

nancy

aem wrote:

> This is a link to a fairly long article that appeared in Gourmet
> magazine a few years ago about the San Gaabriel Valley here in the
> L.A. area. It gives as good a set of descriptions as I've seen of
> what "Chinese taste" cuisines has to offer if you're lucky enough to
> live nearby or to visit. -aem
> http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2003/10/warriors


It sounds amazing. Thanks for sharing that.

Nancy Young wrote:

> I am owed a trip to PF Changs, after these comments I'm interested
> to see what it's like. I didn't expect Chinese food, I thought it was
> more asian inspired, not specifically any particular cuisine. The PF
> is some guy's initials, American sounding.
> nancy

As it is, American born and bred guys own it. Why they aimed for
"Chinese" tone, I dunno? But they pulled it off well for a chain place, IMO.

Goomba wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 25 Jul 2008 06:34:53a, George told us...
>>
>>> Stan Horwitz wrote:
>
>>> I agree with your thinking. If I want good Asian food there are just too
>>> many fantastic mom & pop type places around with better quality
>>> authentic food that are also less expensive. The other night we had a
>>> great Vietnamese grilled pork chop dinners and the tab for two was $20.
>>>
>>
>> In Goomba's defense (not that she needs one), she was looking for a
>> decent and convenient place to dine before getting on with othe
>> priorities. Chang's has very decent food, sometimes exceptional, and
>> always a bit different than the usual Chinese restaurant. The meal
>> she and her husband had sounded delicious.
>>
> Right you are, Wayne. It was a good place with really good food but I
> wasn't striving for "Chinese" food. I wanted something with vegetables
> more than anything else. If I wanted just cheap Chinese food I could go
> to any number of local Mom&Pops, but that isn't the same nor what we
> wanted. I loved that the chicken pieces were large and obviously not
> "formed meat" such as one gets at an Applebees or Chilis type
> restaurant. The lamb tender and flavorful. In the middle of Georgia,
> finding lamb anything on a menu is always a plus in my book! The
> vegetables were crisp, fresh and colorful and EVERYTHING tasted
> fabulous. Just what I wanted and nothing more! I didn't leave smelling
> like a chinese stir fry house, nor feeling I'd eaten greasy food. I left
> feeling just wonderfully sated and pleased. I didn't feel the prices
> were out of line for the quality meal we received, nor the ambiance of
> the surroundings.

But I wasn't (and I don't believe Stan was) talking about "cheap
Chinese". My comment was about reasonably priced good food. Like the mom
& pop dim sum place we went to earlier this week. They had a fabulous
selection of well prepared dishes at reasonable prices. Or the Fujianese
hand pulled noodle place I went to last week that had a great lamb
noodle soup.

Goomba wrote:
> Oh yeah, I've had those there. The chicken is very good on its own
> and I like to eat it with the rice, but I found the other ingredients
> on the platter for the wrap a bit plain.
> Cheesecake Factory does a VERY tasty lettuce wrap appetizer. Give
> them a try sometime (just don't look for Dr. Pepper or half orders of
> Alfredo there, LOL)

We have one the put in a couple of blocks away been there once and it was
OK. Their Lettice wraps are good but we didn't have the chicken one since I
can't stand chicken.

We do have a Chinese take out up the street that has better food for a lot
less and more of it. The best Mongolian Beef I've had in the US too I might
add.

--

Joe

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:02:12 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>
> We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
>the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
>PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
>folks now, I wonder? LOL.

i've got nothing against p.f. chang's, but unless you really live in
the hinterlands, you can usually do better for the money.

your pal,
blake
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:36:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices. I
>really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I could. I
>really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they aren't actually
>that expensive when compared to others, but it's still over my budget for
>more than an occasional stop.
>
>Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.
>
>In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too much.

what? i thought you didn't become poor until you retired.

your social security pal,
blake

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> aem > wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 8:26 pm, maxine in ri > wrote:
>> >
>> > If you're not expecting Chinese food, I hear they are good, but on a
>> > mailing list
>> > folks are not happy with PF Changs. [snip]
>>
>> I think that sums it up. If it's to your taste, that's good, enjoy
>> it. If you are looking for actual Chinese food well made, go
>> somewhere else. -aem
>
> So true! Everyone made a big fuss over PF Chang's when it opened in
> Memphis so after a few months a friend and I went there for lunch. The
> food was just so-so and way overpriced for what it was.
>
> Jill

In so cal you need to speak Spanish if you want to talk to the cooks (not
chefs).. They advertized for a long time as a China Bistro whatever the
hell that means.

BTW the F in PF is the owner of Fleming's steak houses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._F._Chang's_China_Bistro


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

Wayne Boatwright wrote:


> Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
> Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my
> budget.

At work, one of the secretaries (er, ah, "office administrators")
started a communal Chinese delivery thing. You write down what you want
and put money in the envelop and she calls in for delivery from one of
the local hole-in-the-wall places. The combo lunches (with two Crab
Rangoons and soup) are about $5.50 with tip and tax.

It's kind of fun thing to do. A lot of the people eat it together in a
conference room.




Brian

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won't shut up.
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"Joe Cilinceon" > wrote in

> We do have a Chinese take out up the street that has better
> food for a lot less and more of it. The best Mongolian Beef
> I've had in the US too I might add.

Hi Joe

I hope you don't mind me asking..
but would this Chinese take out have a name and address?
The reason I ask this is because I plan to him the road in the
future and would love to try restaurants recommended here.

Thank you

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:30:15 -0700 (PDT), aem >
wrote:

>On Jul 25, 9:11*am, Goomba > wrote:
>>
>> Right you are, Wayne. It was a good place with really good food but I
>> wasn't striving for "Chinese" food.... [snip].... In the middle of Georgia,
>> ...[snip]
>
>And right you are, too. Since railroad-building and gold-mining days
>American Chinese food has been simplified and moderated such that some
>Chinese restarateurs make an accepted distinction between "American
>taste" and "Chinese taste." It takes a large Chinese population to
>support restaurants that offer "Chinese taste" menus. There are a few
>such places scattered around the country, while everywhere else the
>offerings are familiar and ordinary.
>
>This is a link to a fairly long article that appeared in Gourmet
>magazine a few years ago about the San Gaabriel Valley here in the
>L.A. area. It gives as good a set of descriptions as I've seen of
>what "Chinese taste" cuisines has to offer if you're lucky enough to
>live nearby or to visit. -aem
> http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2003/10/warriors

san gabriel sounds like the place to be.

your pal,
blake
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On Jul 24, 6:02*pm, Goomba > wrote:
> I LIKE PF Changs. I don't care if it is a chain, LOL!
>
> * * * * We wanted a fast supper last night before doing some errands (buying
> the new dishwasher for the kitchen re-do, etc.) so we headed off to
> PFChangs and had a wonderful early meal (5 PM). Does that make us old
> folks now, I wonder? LOL.

Well, I AM an old folk and love PF Changs at any time.

If we're going to eat early, we go to Pei Wei, which belongs to PF
Changs, which is their "fast food" version of Asian food. They have a
lot of the same things on the menu (lettuce wraps) and the prices are
very reasonable and the decor is pleasant.

We're lucky to have both of these places close by.

jillied
Roseville, CA

On Fri 25 Jul 2008 02:12:01p, blake murphy told us...

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:36:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>>
>>It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices. I
>>really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I could. I
>>really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they aren't actually
>>that expensive when compared to others, but it's still over my budget for
>>more than an occasional stop.
>>
>>Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>>Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.
>>
>>In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>>frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too
much.
>
> what? i thought you didn't become poor until you retired.
>
> your social security pal,
> blake
>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>

I'm almost at the point of considering myself one of the "working poor".

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:57:23 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Fri 25 Jul 2008 02:12:01p, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:36:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices. I
>>>really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I could. I
>>>really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they aren't actually
>>>that expensive when compared to others, but it's still over my budget for
>>>more than an occasional stop.
>>>
>>>Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>>>Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my budget.
>>>
>>>In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>>>frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too
>much.
>>
>> what? i thought you didn't become poor until you retired.
>>
>> your social security pal,
>> blake
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>
>
>I'm almost at the point of considering myself one of the "working poor".

best to get used to it now.

your pal,
blake

On Wed 30 Jul 2008 12:36:42p, blake murphy told us...

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:57:23 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri 25 Jul 2008 02:12:01p, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:36:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices.
>>>>I really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I
>>>>could. I really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they
>>>>aren't actually that expensive when compared to others, but it's still
>>>>over my budget for more than an occasional stop.
>>>>
>>>>Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>>>>Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my
>>>>budget.
>>>>
>>>>In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>>>>frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too
>>>>much.
>>>
>>> what? i thought you didn't become poor until you retired.
>>>
>>> your social security pal, blake
>>>
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>
>>
>>I'm almost at the point of considering myself one of the "working poor".
>
> best to get used to it now.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

Yes, I know. I will be 66 in 2-1/2 years, which is when I can begin
collecting Social Security. I plan to go on working, health permitting,
until I'm 70, primarily in order to put some money aside and finish off a
few things around the house. By the time I'm 66, both of cars will be paid
for, as well as any remaining debt we have except for our house payment.
All of this will help a lot. The company I work for doesn't have a
retirement plan, so no money coming from there. While they do offer a 403K
plan, I can't afford to contribute to itat present, although I will be able
to by the time I'm 66.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 30 Jul 2008 12:36:42p, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:57:23 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri 25 Jul 2008 02:12:01p, blake murphy told us...
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:36:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> It's only an occasional place for me to go, mainly due to the prices.
>>>>> I really can't afford frequent meals at that price, though wish I
>>>>> could. I really do like their food. As restaurant prices go, they
>>>>> aren't actually that expensive when compared to others, but it's still
>>>>> over my budget for more than an occasional stop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, I'm still very partial to old-fashioned traditional
>>>>> Cantonese chinese food, and it's also far more affordable on my
>>>>> budget.
>>>>>
>>>>> In another life it was easy for me to afford almost any cost of meal
>>>>> frequently. Those days are long gone, and I actually don't mind too
>>>>> much.
>>>> what? i thought you didn't become poor until you retired.
>>>>
>>>> your social security pal, blake
>>>>
>>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>>
>>> I'm almost at the point of considering myself one of the "working poor".
>> best to get used to it now.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
>
> Yes, I know. I will be 66 in 2-1/2 years, which is when I can begin
> collecting Social Security. I plan to go on working, health permitting,
> until I'm 70, primarily in order to put some money aside and finish off a
> few things around the house. By the time I'm 66, both of cars will be paid
> for, as well as any remaining debt we have except for our house payment.
> All of this will help a lot. The company I work for doesn't have a
> retirement plan, so no money coming from there. While they do offer a 403K
> plan, I can't afford to contribute to itat present, although I will be able
> to by the time I'm 66.
>
You might want to run the numbers on drawing now or waiting until 66
Wayne. I did that some time back and began drawing my SS at age 62. My
accountant says it will generally come out to the point where you get
more money in the long run rather than wait to build it a little more. YMMV

I continued to work for 5 more years and drew SS at the same time. the
big rub with us is DW intends to teach two more years, that will make
her 70 when she retires. At that point in time the gubmint will take
away a good chunk of the portion of my SS she is drawing now and she
will have to make do with her minuscule teacher retirement when I am
gone. My company pension is just about enough to almost pay the light
bill. So much for working for a pension. Should have gone to work for
the feds like three of my relatives did.