Giusi wrote:

> "Sheldon" > ha scritto nel messaggio news:a6002e55-c7af-
>
> He's not saying the US is perfect, there is no perfect. All he's
> saying is that of all the places available more people who are
> escaping oppression choose the US first, in fact since its inception
> they always have... the oppressed fleeing to America is hardly a
> recent phenomena.
>
> _____________________________
>
> If you all read something other than the local rag and Time or Newsweek
> you'd know that all of Mediterranean Europe is being inundated with
illegal
> aliens. Services are being stretched to breaking point. Ships sink
within
> eyesight of Italian and Spanish shores as they struggle to get to a place
> where they can make a few bucks to send home. They are being charged
about
> ?1500 to get on a boat full of holes and drown. Most would like to get
> farther north and are on coastal shores because that's as far as their
money
> goes. Germany is packed, France is packed, Italy is packed and Spain is
> too. Steerage to America is a long time ago.
> I have not heard anyone speak of America as a bastion of freedom for
> decades. They want food and money. Free to die they can remain at home.
>


These illegals inundating Europe and other prosperous places are Turd World
"dirt people", which now number in the several billions in places like
Haiti, the Arab/Muzlim world, and most of Africa. They are relatively
unproductive and so useless, and so should just be allowed to die
off...especially in the case of Black Africa, which after almost 50 years of
independence and billions/trillions in aid, still remains a "hopeless case".

Or in the case of Australia, they simply send all their puir boat people
wretches to the barren Pacific aisle of Nauru, a most *excellent* place for
them...


--
Best
Greg

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> wrote:
> >I hope Asian countries do not start modeling western nations in their
> >city planning. I like the way the poor live not far from the
> >rich. It even makes it easier to give them left over food instead
> >of throwing away.
>
> The other side of that reality, at least in most American cities, is
> that the poor often turn to crime when constantly bombarded with
> pressure to possess and consume without being given many legal
> opportunities to earn enough through work to make that possible. Raised
> to think they have no value if they don't have fancy bling bling, many
> become impatient with their lot and eventually resort to simply stealing
> or even killing for what they can't afford.


Actually, most of the inner - city ghetto poor are just L - A - Z - Y,
largely the result of 60's "Great Society" liberal social engineering
programs. They've become a criminal dependent class largely because of all
these hand - outs and well - intentioned programs. And then there are their
clownish "leaders" such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are just great
big scam artists...

Not so different from most of Black Africa, which in reality is just a giant
"ghetto" that has become dependent on Western aid. They even come complete
with their own clownish "leaders", such as Mugabe, etc...

I mean, you have to try pretty hard to turn a place like Uganda, formerly
known as "The Pearl Of Africa" or Zimbabwe, which was one of the
breadbaskets of the continent, into the shite holes that they are. But they
did it...

Africa was a *much* better place under colonial rule...


<shrug/>


--
Best
Greg

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
> lid wrote:
>> Andy, there are some great Mughlai Indian places in University City.
>
> Excuse me, I live in University City and have eaten some of the best
> Mughlai cooking in Delhi. Believe me when I tell you there are
> absolutely no Mughlai restaurants anywhere near University City. All the
> restaurants except one are Panjaabi owned, serving typical pan-regional
> fair. One, Kababish, is Pakistani owned and thus serves slightly
> different dishes like shami kabab, goat karahi, sikh kabab, daily
> curries and mixed vegetables. But, I'd hardly call that cooking Mughlai;
> it's more likt down home Paki.
>
> Orlando

I have never been to Delhi so I will defer to you about if they make
authentic Mughlai dishes. I don't get a lot of opportunities to eat
Indian food but I would place the ones I have been at in University City
at about third place. I have had much worse and also somewhat better.

"Gregory Morrow" > ha scritto nel messaggio
m...
>
> Giusi wrote:

>> you'd know that all of Mediterranean Europe is being inundated with
>> illegal aliens.

> These illegals inundating Europe and other prosperous places are Turd
> World "dirt people", which now number in the several billions in places
> like Haiti, the Arab/Muzlim world, and most of Africa.

Your attitude is pretty much of a piece with your usual caustic and
mean-hearted responses. Immigrant waves do come from poor countries to rich
ones, that makes sense, no? But our illegal immigrants are also from
Eastern Europe, China, Peru, Santo Domingo, Chile, Argentina, as well as the
populations you would flush. I'd flush you, first, because a touch of
genius might arise from one of those immigrants, whereas we've given you
decades to come up with something useful and all we've seen so far is
multiple email addresses so we can't stuff you into our killfiles for good.

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

>I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and it was
>severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or his bad taste in
>Indian restaurants. Buffet style.

Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
to the contrary.

Steve

Steve Pope said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and it was
>>severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or his bad taste in
>>Indian restaurants. Buffet style.
>
> Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
> to the contrary.
>
> Steve


Steve Pope,

NOW you tell me!?? ))

Best,

Andy

Steve wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC):

>> I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and
>> it was severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or
>> his bad taste in Indian restaurants. Buffet style.

> Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
> to the contrary.

Indian restaurant food is generally high in grease but there are good
Indian buffets. In my part of the world, I know of four good-tasting
AYCE Indian buffets and the one of them that is vegetarian has the
fattiest food. The problem is temptation at any buffet!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
> "Gregory Morrow" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> m...
>>
>> Giusi wrote:
>
>>> you'd know that all of Mediterranean Europe is being inundated with
>>> illegal aliens.
>
>> These illegals inundating Europe and other prosperous places are Turd
>> World "dirt people", which now number in the several billions in places
>> like Haiti, the Arab/Muzlim world, and most of Africa.
>
> Your attitude is pretty much of a piece with your usual caustic and
> mean-hearted responses. Immigrant waves do come from poor countries to
> rich ones, that makes sense, no? But our illegal immigrants are also from
> Eastern Europe, China, Peru, Santo Domingo, Chile, Argentina, as well as
> the populations you would flush. I'd flush you, first, because a touch of
> genius might arise from one of those immigrants, whereas we've given you
> decades to come up with something useful and all we've seen so far is
> multiple email addresses so we can't stuff you into our killfiles for
> good.
>
And he thinks these comments are witty. Witty. All they do is display to
the world the cess pool inside his fetic old decaying shell.

James Silverton wrote:
> Steve wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC):
>
>>> I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and
>>> it was severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or
>>> his bad taste in Indian restaurants. Buffet style.
>
>> Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
>> to the contrary.
>
> Indian restaurant food is generally high in grease but there are good
> Indian buffets. In my part of the world, I know of four good-tasting
> AYCE Indian buffets and the one of them that is vegetarian has the
> fattiest food. The problem is temptation at any buffet!
>
We have an excellent Indian buffet in the Boston area. It has
only been open for a few months. It has even had quail on the
lunch buffet. Just wonderful...

--
Jean B.

Jean wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:45:56 -0400:

> James Silverton wrote:
>> Steve wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC):
>>
>>>> I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation
>>>> and it was severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky
>>>> day or his bad taste in Indian restaurants. Buffet style.
>>
>>> Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
>>> to the contrary.
>>
>> Indian restaurant food is generally high in grease but there are good
>> Indian buffets. In my part of the world, I know of
>> four good-tasting AYCE Indian buffets and the one of them
>> that is vegetarian has the fattiest food. The problem is
>> temptation at any buffet!
>>
> We have an excellent Indian buffet in the Boston area. It has
> only been open for a few months. It has even had quail on the
> lunch buffet. Just wonderful...

I've not seen quail at the Minerva (that's what the best one is called)
but they do often have real goat curry and they don't drench the
chapatis in ghee.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

wrote:
>Actually, most of the inner - city ghetto poor are just L - A - Z - Y,
>largely the result of 60's "Great Society" liberal social engineering
>programs. They've become a criminal dependent class largely because of all
>these hand - outs and well - intentioned programs.

Do you know this from living in a ghetto and making due on the few
resources such people have? Or, are you just talking out your ass?

>And then there are their clownish "leaders" such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are just great
>big scam artists...

Who else might qualify as a scam artist in your book? Martin Luther
King? Malcolm X? Barack Obama? I shudder at the possibilities.

>Not so different from most of Black Africa, which in reality is just a giant
>"ghetto" that has become dependent on Western aid. They even come complete
>with their own clownish "leaders", such as Mugabe, etc...

Right you are, buddy boy; Europe never had dictators like Napoleon,
Hitler, Stalin or Melosevich.

>I mean, you have to try pretty hard to turn a place like Uganda, formerly
>known as "The Pearl Of Africa" or Zimbabwe, which was one of the
>breadbaskets of the continent, into the shite holes that they are. But they
>did it...

So, why don't we overthrow Mugabe like we did Saddam? Because Zimbabwe
doesn't have any oil?

>Africa was a *much* better place under colonial rule...

How the hell do you know that? Were you even there at any time?

Orlando

lid wrote:
>I have never been to Delhi so I will defer to you about if they make
>authentic Mughlai dishes.

Wise man. Most Panjaabi owned restaurants specialize in the kind of
standardized restaurant cuisine found all over India.

>I don't get a lot of opportunities to eat
>Indian food but I would place the ones I have been at in University City
>at about third place. I have had much worse and also somewhat better.

Tell me about the "somewhat better".

Orlando

wrote:
>I've not seen quail at the Minerva (that's what the best one is called)
>but they do often have real goat curry and they don't drench the
>chapatis in ghee.

If you don't want your chapatis with oil or ghee, ask for them to be
made "fulka" or dry.

Orlando

Orlando wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:12:00 GMT:

> wrote:
>> I've not seen quail at the Minerva (that's what the best one
>> is called) but they do often have real goat curry and they
>> don't drench the chapatis in ghee.

> If you don't want your chapatis with oil or ghee, ask for them
> to be made "fulka" or dry.

A useful word I guess, but not much use in a buffet :-(

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> wrote:
> >Actually, most of the inner - city ghetto poor are just L - A - Z - Y,
> >largely the result of 60's "Great Society" liberal social engineering
> >programs. They've become a criminal dependent class largely because of
all
> >these hand - outs and well - intentioned programs.
>
> Do you know this from living in a ghetto and making due on the few
> resources such people have? Or, are you just talking out your ass?
>
> >And then there are their clownish "leaders" such as Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton, who are just great
> >big scam artists...
>
> Who else might qualify as a scam artist in your book? Martin Luther
> King? Malcolm X? Barack Obama? I shudder at the possibilities.
>
> >Not so different from most of Black Africa, which in reality is just a
giant
> >"ghetto" that has become dependent on Western aid. They even come
complete
> >with their own clownish "leaders", such as Mugabe, etc...
>
> Right you are, buddy boy; Europe never had dictators like Napoleon,
> Hitler, Stalin or Melosevich.
>
> >I mean, you have to try pretty hard to turn a place like Uganda, formerly
> >known as "The Pearl Of Africa" or Zimbabwe, which was one of the
> >breadbaskets of the continent, into the shite holes that they are. But
they
> >did it...
>
> So, why don't we overthrow Mugabe like we did Saddam? Because Zimbabwe
> doesn't have any oil?
>
> >Africa was a *much* better place under colonial rule...
>
> How the hell do you know that? Were you even there at any time?
>


Heh...you are pretty easily trolled.

:-)


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

wrote:
>A useful word I guess, but not much use in a buffet :-(

Tell them to make you fresh fulka chapati; they'll do it.

Orlando

Orlando wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:26:49 GMT:

> wrote:
>> A useful word I guess, but not much use in a buffet :-(

> Tell them to make you fresh fulka chapati; they'll do it.

Good luck! Perhaps, if you are willing to wait a long time but I don't
think most buffets are particularly responsive to special requests and
I've never seen anyone making them.

I might ask the waiter to hold the ghee in a regular Indian restaurant
but I'm generally reluctant to use *unusual* words from languages I do
not speak. Of course that's not the same thing as using established
names like Tikka Masala and I do know what some component words like
"Aloo" mean.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:
> Jean wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:45:56 -0400:
>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Steve wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC):
>>>
>>>>> I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation
>>>>> and it was severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky
>>>>> day or his bad taste in Indian restaurants. Buffet style.
>>>
>>>> Never go to a buffet-style Indian restaurant. Ignore advice
>>>> to the contrary.
>>>
>>> Indian restaurant food is generally high in grease but there are good
>>> Indian buffets. In my part of the world, I know of
>>> four good-tasting AYCE Indian buffets and the one of them
>>> that is vegetarian has the fattiest food. The problem is
>>> temptation at any buffet!
>>>
>> We have an excellent Indian buffet in the Boston area. It has
>> only been open for a few months. It has even had quail on the
>> lunch buffet. Just wonderful...
>
> I've not seen quail at the Minerva (that's what the best one is called)
> but they do often have real goat curry and they don't drench the
> chapatis in ghee.
>
Well, I saw the quail once. I had been going several times and
then once a week. Now I am dieting alas. I can have meat and
veggies, depending...

I have not seen goat on the lunch buffet. They have had lamb
chops (the expensive small ones.)

They do have goat on the dinner menu, but it was not that
great.... There is a much nicer goat curry elsewhere. I may have
to trot (or drive) out to get that sometime when my daughter is
elsewhere.

--
Jean B.

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
> wrote:
>> A useful word I guess, but not much use in a buffet :-(
>
> Tell them to make you fresh fulka chapati; they'll do it.
>
> Orlando

Oh yes... And at my buffet they do such things to order--the
default seems to be plain naan AND masala dosa. They usually do
ask you though, and I am thinking you could sub something else.
Maybe not...

--
Jean B.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:02:57 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
> wrote:

wrote:
>>Actually, most of the inner - city ghetto poor are just L - A - Z - Y,
>>largely the result of 60's "Great Society" liberal social engineering
>>programs. They've become a criminal dependent class largely because of all
>>these hand - outs and well - intentioned programs.
>
>Do you know this from living in a ghetto and making due on the few
>resources such people have? Or, are you just talking out your ass?
>
>>And then there are their clownish "leaders" such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are just great
>>big scam artists...
>
>Who else might qualify as a scam artist in your book? Martin Luther
>King? Malcolm X? Barack Obama? I shudder at the possibilities.
>
>>Not so different from most of Black Africa, which in reality is just a giant
>>"ghetto" that has become dependent on Western aid. They even come complete
>>with their own clownish "leaders", such as Mugabe, etc...
>

all them dusky ethiopes who dare to suggest that white society has
done them dirt. the ****ing ingrates!

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:58:18 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>
>Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>> >Actually, most of the inner - city ghetto poor are just L - A - Z - Y,
>> >largely the result of 60's "Great Society" liberal social engineering
>> >programs. They've become a criminal dependent class largely because of
>all
>> >these hand - outs and well - intentioned programs.
>>
>> Do you know this from living in a ghetto and making due on the few
>> resources such people have? Or, are you just talking out your ass?
>>
>> >And then there are their clownish "leaders" such as Jesse Jackson and Al
>Sharpton, who are just great
>> >big scam artists...
>>
>> Who else might qualify as a scam artist in your book? Martin Luther
>> King? Malcolm X? Barack Obama? I shudder at the possibilities.
>>
>> >Not so different from most of Black Africa, which in reality is just a
>giant
>> >"ghetto" that has become dependent on Western aid. They even come
>complete
>> >with their own clownish "leaders", such as Mugabe, etc...
>>
>> Right you are, buddy boy; Europe never had dictators like Napoleon,
>> Hitler, Stalin or Melosevich.
>>
>> >I mean, you have to try pretty hard to turn a place like Uganda, formerly
>> >known as "The Pearl Of Africa" or Zimbabwe, which was one of the
>> >breadbaskets of the continent, into the shite holes that they are. But
>they
>> >did it...
>>
>> So, why don't we overthrow Mugabe like we did Saddam? Because Zimbabwe
>> doesn't have any oil?
>>
>> >Africa was a *much* better place under colonial rule...
>>
>> How the hell do you know that? Were you even there at any time?
>>
>
>
>Heh...you are pretty easily trolled.
>
>:-)

it would figure that being a successful troll is among your highest
aspirations.

blake

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Wouldn't be the first time. During the era when they were burning
> "witches", it was also a very bad time to be a homosexual male. At the
> time, "faggot" was slang for kindling - small pieces of wood used to
> start a fire.


The Dictionary of American Slang gives another explanation.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfaggot.html


--Lia, not following this thread carefully

wrote:
>Good luck! Perhaps, if you are willing to wait a long time but I don't
>think most buffets are particularly responsive to special requests and
>I've never seen anyone making them.

I don't think you understand how flattered Indians get when you use even
two or three Hindi words, even when Hindi isn't their native language;
it shows you're truly interested and willing to try. They, in turn, will
make you fresh lime water or dry chappatis. Trust me.

> I might ask the waiter to hold the ghee in a regular Indian restaurant
>but I'm generally reluctant to use *unusual* words from languages I do
>not speak. Of course that's not the same thing as using established
>names like Tikka Masala and I do know what some component words like
>"Aloo" mean.

If you can use "tikka masala" without knowing the language, why can't
you use "fulka"? Because you don't trust the blind schmuck on usenet who
might be pulling your leg? *grin* Why would I do that to anyone?

Orlando

Orlando wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:48:53 GMT:

> wrote:
>> Good luck! Perhaps, if you are willing to wait a long time
>> but I don't think most buffets are particularly responsive to
>> special requests and I've never seen anyone making them.

> I don't think you understand how flattered Indians get when
> you use even two or three Hindi words, even when Hindi isn't
> their native language; it shows you're truly interested and
> willing to try. They, in turn, will make you fresh lime water
> or dry chappatis. Trust me.

>> I might ask the waiter to hold the ghee in a regular Indian
>> restaurant but I'm generally reluctant to use *unusual* words
>> from languages I do not speak. Of course that's not the same
>> thing as using established names like Tikka Masala and I do
>> know what some component words like "Aloo" mean.

> If you can use "tikka masala" without knowing the language,
> why can't you use "fulka"? Because you don't trust the blind
> schmuck on usenet who might be pulling your leg? *grin* Why
> would I do that to anyone?

There's a difference between using words that many others employ and
trying out new words. Thanks again, I might well try outside a buffet if
I remember! Sometimes my attempts at foreign words seem to meet with
complete puzzlement if they are not expected. It's probably on the same
level as Korean waiters who are mistakenly convinced that nobody but
Koreans can stand the spiciness of their food :-)

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>Good luck! Perhaps, if you are willing to wait a long time but I don't
>>think most buffets are particularly responsive to special requests and
>>I've never seen anyone making them.
>
>
> I don't think you understand how flattered Indians get when you use even
> two or three Hindi words, even when Hindi isn't their native language;
> it shows you're truly interested and willing to try. They, in turn, will
> make you fresh lime water or dry chappatis. Trust me.

And likewise, even the most broken attempts at Spanish will have most
native speakers bending over backwards to help. When I sub in Spanish
classes I always tell the kids TRY IT. Most Americans who know even a
smattering of Spanish are too bashful to even make an attempt at making
themselves understood. Swallow your pride and take a stab at it.

If it results in a rapid fire, incomprehensible response, don't freak
out. Wait a couple seconds and see if the general gist of what's been
said filters through. If not, the next phrase to try is, "Lo siento...
Mas lento, por favor" (I'm sorry, more slowly, please).

If you still don't get it, shrug, grin and say, "Mi espanol es muy
pobre. No comprendo. En inglese, por favor?" (My spanish sucks. I
don't understand. In english, please?)

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:59:54 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>It's probably on the same
>level as Korean waiters who are mistakenly convinced that nobody but
>Koreans can stand the spiciness of their food :-)

Heh, you Easterners need to develop steel tongues.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West