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Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering why
we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the broiler to
finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll be checking
the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in case!) in the
future.

Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from my
mom that she froze. Tasty stuff
You can see pics here if you want: http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/

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> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for
> dinner rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no
> one ever thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and
> wondering why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it
> out and saw the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it
> under the broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can
> be sure I'll be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second
> tank, just in case!) in the future.


Quite so. In this house 'backups' are not restricted to computer data...
(We have 3 propane tanks and we always make sure one of them is full)
>
> Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from
> my mom that she froze. Tasty stuff


Well, All's Well That Ends Well, IMHO.

> You can see pics here if you want:
> http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/
>
> kimberly


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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:

> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
> flame was as gone as the thrill.


Sorry!

How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
waiting to explode.



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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>
> Sorry!
>
> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.
>
>
>


The 2 ways I know

1. Lift the tank and guess by the weight how empty it is. I believe a full
tank weighs 30-35 lbs but that's a guess on my part. 20 lbs of that is the
propane the rest is what the tank weighs. 20 lbs of propane is what a
regular BBQ propane tank is rated to hold when full.

2. There are magnetic stick ons for the tank that can tell how full it is
by the temp...these require you pour a little water on them for them to
work. The difference in temp shows up and gives you a visual indication of
propane level. But you need to water these everytime you desire to know
how much propane you have.

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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>
> Sorry!
>
> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.


If you suspect the propane getting low or empty, you lift the tank and
shake it a bit for the smaller ones - or roll it around for the bigger
ones. (Hint, if you can lift/roll any of them very easily, start
getting even more suspicious). Then once you've done either of the
above, if you can hear some 'sloshing' noises coming from the tank it
means there is still some propane in there... if you don't, it's empty.

However, you can avoid all the trauma of doing this and just take
a 'suspicious' tank to your nearest propane refill outlet. They
have 'fancy equipment' to see if it needs filling or not. And no, the
tanks don't usually 'explode' when they're empty - well not IME,
anyway.
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ChattyCathy wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>>>We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>>>smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>>flame was as gone as the thrill.

>>
>> Sorry!
>>
>>How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
>>That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
>>is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>>around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>>waiting to explode.

>
>
> If you suspect the propane getting low or empty, you lift the tank and
> shake it a bit for the smaller ones - or roll it around for the bigger
> ones. (Hint, if you can lift/roll any of them very easily, start
> getting even more suspicious). Then once you've done either of the
> above, if you can hear some 'sloshing' noises coming from the tank it
> means there is still some propane in there... if you don't, it's empty.
>
> However, you can avoid all the trauma of doing this and just take
> a 'suspicious' tank to your nearest propane refill outlet. They
> have 'fancy equipment' to see if it needs filling or not. And no, the
> tanks don't usually 'explode' when they're empty - well not IME,
> anyway.


I get my tanks filled at the local farmer's co-op. They put the tank on
a scale and hook it up. When it reaches 40 lbs (I think) for the
usual barbeque pit tank, it shuts off automatically. You only pay for
what you get. And if you're willing to sign the receipt you don't have
to pay sales tax.

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> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering
> why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw
> the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the
> broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll
> be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in
> case!) in the future.


Usually only happens once. Then you get smart and invest $25 in a second
tank.


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> Nexis wrote:
>
>> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for
>> dinner rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no
>> one ever thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and
>> wondering why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it
>> out and saw the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it
>> under the broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can
>> be sure I'll be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second
>> tank, just in case!) in the future.

>
> Quite so. In this house 'backups' are not restricted to computer data...
> (We have 3 propane tanks and we always make sure one of them is full)


Good plan! I already talked to my husband, who said he would pick up an
additional tank when he fills the current one. I hadn't realized we'd been
using it so much, I guess!

>> Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from
>> my mom that she froze. Tasty stuff

>
> Well, All's Well That Ends Well, IMHO.


I completely concur! I did miss grilling peaches, but I made a quick peach
crisp instead, so that was good too

>
>> You can see pics here if you want:
>> http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/
>>
>> kimberly

>
> --
> Cheers
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>
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> I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.
>


The tanks are safer than the tank of gas in your car. Just keep in outside
in a ventilated place. Millions of people never stop to think about parking
their car in the garage with 20 gallons of gasoline yet worry about a strong
and secure propane than with 5 gallons in it.

I have a gas grill, gas smoker, and heater for the garage so I have five
tanks around. Not to mention the two 100 pound tanks for cooking on the
kitchen stove. If I go, I'm going big. KaaaaaaaaaaaaBoooooooooooooooooM


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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>
> Sorry!
>
> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.


Funny you should say that, that is the exact reason I never had a spare
around. But my uncle has assured me it's relatively safe, so I'm going to go
ahead and get one. Our grill has a guage, but it's difficult to see in broad
daylight, much less in the evening, so we didn't even look at it. Like I
said, D'oh!

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> I get my tanks filled at the local farmer's co-op. They put the tank
> on
> a scale and hook it up. When it reaches 40 lbs (I think) for the
> usual barbeque pit tank, it shuts off automatically. You only pay for
> what you get.


Quite so. Our local gas stations/hardware stores do the same.

> And if you're willing to sign the receipt you don't
> have to pay sales tax.


Think it might be VAT-exempt here too, never checked.
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"Nexis" wrote:
> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering why
> we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
> flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the broiler to
> finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll be checking
> the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in case!) in the
> future.


Any of the big box hardware stores sell propane tank guages. Knowing
the tank is about to be empty is a good thing but you'll need a second
tank anyway: http://www.gaswatch.com

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Nexis wrote:
> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering why
> we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
> flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the broiler to
> finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll be checking
> the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in case!) in the
> future.
>



When we moved into this house 24 years ago, I was delighted to see that
the grill was piped into the natural gas line. In our former house (no
natural gas line available in the town) I was always afraid of running
out. I love this solution.

Daughter has two tanks bu they don't always remember to fill the empty one.

gloria p
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"Nexis" > wrote in message
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> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering
> why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw
> the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the
> broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll
> be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in
> case!) in the future.
>
> Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from my
> mom that she froze. Tasty stuff
> You can see pics here if you want: http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/
>
> kimberly
>


Always, always, always-one tank in the grill, another alongside-fill the
empty one.!!!!!


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> The tanks are safer than the tank of gas in your car. Just keep in outside
> in a ventilated place. Millions of people never stop to think about parking
> their car in the garage with 20 gallons of gasoline yet worry about a strong
> and secure propane than with 5 gallons in it.
>
> I have a gas grill, gas smoker, and heater for the garage so I have five
> tanks around. Not to mention the two 100 pound tanks for cooking on the
> kitchen stove. If I go, I'm going big. KaaaaaaaaaaaaBoooooooooooooooooM


Well, I hope not. LOL

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Kathleen wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
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>> sf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>>>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>>>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>>> flame was as gone as the thrill.
>>>
>>> Sorry!
>>>
>>> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
>>> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
>>> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>>> waiting to explode.

>>
>>
>> If you suspect the propane getting low or empty, you lift the tank and
>> shake it a bit for the smaller ones - or roll it around for the bigger
>> ones. (Hint, if you can lift/roll any of them very easily, start
>> getting even more suspicious). Then once you've done either of the
>> above, if you can hear some 'sloshing' noises coming from the tank it
>> means there is still some propane in there... if you don't, it's empty.
>> However, you can avoid all the trauma of doing this and just take
>> a 'suspicious' tank to your nearest propane refill outlet. They
>> have 'fancy equipment' to see if it needs filling or not. And no, the
>> tanks don't usually 'explode' when they're empty - well not IME,
>> anyway.

>
> I get my tanks filled at the local farmer's co-op. They put the tank on
> a scale and hook it up. When it reaches 40 lbs (I think) for the usual
> barbeque pit tank, it shuts off automatically. You only pay for what
> you get. And if you're willing to sign the receipt you don't have to
> pay sales tax.
>

Most propane for home use around here comes in what is called a
"5-gallon" tank but in reality weighs 20 lbs. In addition you can buy a
gauge that goes in between the tank and the regulator that will tell you
how much is in the tank.
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>> I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>> waiting to explode.
>>

>
> The tanks are safer than the tank of gas in your car. Just keep in outside
> in a ventilated place. Millions of people never stop to think about parking
> their car in the garage with 20 gallons of gasoline yet worry about a strong
> and secure propane than with 5 gallons in it.
>
> I have a gas grill, gas smoker, and heater for the garage so I have five
> tanks around. Not to mention the two 100 pound tanks for cooking on the
> kitchen stove. If I go, I'm going big. KaaaaaaaaaaaaBoooooooooooooooooM
>
>

Most usually LPG gas in tanks doesn't explode, if it's in a fire there
is a fusible plug that will blow out first and the remaining propane
just burns like a jet.
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> Nexis wrote:
>> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for
>> dinner rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no
>> one ever thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and
>> wondering why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it
>> out and saw the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it
>> under the broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can
>> be sure I'll be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second
>> tank, just in case!) in the future.
>>

>
>
> When we moved into this house 24 years ago, I was delighted to see that
> the grill was piped into the natural gas line. In our former house (no
> natural gas line available in the town) I was always afraid of running
> out. I love this solution.
>
> Daughter has two tanks bu they don't always remember to fill the empty one.
>
> gloria p

Natural gas (methane)has less BTU's so cooking with it takes a little
longer than propane does because of the higher BTU British ThermalUnit,
a measure of the heat produced in calories)content of the propane. You
can still cook with it on an outside grill but it might take a wee bit
longer. Our kitchen stove is natural gas, with five burners, two of them
are high BTU burners for quickly boiling water, etc.
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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>
> Sorry!
>
> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.
>

As long as you don't situate the propane tank in the hot sun, you'll be o.k.
The tank will vent if it gets hot -- it's supposed to and that isn't a
problem unless there is an ignition source closeby. A couple of houses in
our city burned to the ground last month with that situation. The propane
tank was a larger utility one. It was installed on the sunny side of the
house and had been for years. The temperature was over 100F that day, the
tank vented as it should, but there was an electric somthing or other in use
nearby and ka-boom. I guess the ka-boom rocked the entire neighborhood. No
one was hurt because they heard the load hissing and vacated the two homes
before the explosion.
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> Gloria P wrote:
> > Nexis wrote:
> >> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for
> >> dinner rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no
> >> one ever thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and
> >> wondering why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it
> >> out and saw the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it
> >> under the broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can
> >> be sure I'll be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second
> >> tank, just in case!) in the future.

>
> > When we moved into this house 24 years ago, I was delighted to see that
> > the grill was piped into the natural gas line. �In our former house (no
> > natural gas line available in the town) I was always afraid of running
> > out. �I love this solution.

>
> > Daughter has two tanks bu they don't always remember to fill the empty one.

>
>
> Natural gas (methane)has less BTU's so cooking with it takes a little
> longer than propane does because of the higher BTU


I had natural gas at my last house and I have bulk propane here, for
my same kitchen range and same Weber grill... after properly
converting the regulator and orifices there is no perceptible
difference. In fact I tested it, takes the same seven minutes to boil
the same quantity of water in my same 8 qt pot. The propane company
tech told me when the appliance is properly converted there is no
difference in BTUs.


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> Nexis wrote:
>> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
>> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
>> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering
>> why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw
>> the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the
>> broiler to finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll
>> be checking the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in
>> case!) in the future.
>>

>
>
> When we moved into this house 24 years ago, I was delighted to see that
> the grill was piped into the natural gas line. In our former house (no
> natural gas line available in the town) I was always afraid of running
> out. I love this solution.
>
> Daughter has two tanks bu they don't always remember to fill the empty
> one.
>
> gloria p


Well...<g>... that too has its pros and a little con. Remember to turn
that grill off or you can run up one heck of a gas bill. My step-son forgot
once and left it on for days. BIG NATURAL GAS BILL! My husband forget once
and it was just overnight so it didn't do much damage to the bill. It was
however the only time he forgot... so far...

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:

>Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
>rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
>thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering why
>we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the broiler to
>finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll be checking
>the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in case!) in the
>future.
>
>Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from my
>mom that she froze. Tasty stuff
> You can see pics here if you want: http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/
>
>kimberly
>

Great blog kimberly, if you don't mind I'll add a link to yours on
mine.

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> Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
> rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
> thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering
> why we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw
> the flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
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>>Last night we decided at the last minute to grill some chicken for dinner
>>rather than go out as we'd planned earlier. Unfortunately, no one ever
>>thought to check the propane! :/ We were making the sides and wondering
>>why
>>we couldn't smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>flame was as gone as the thrill. I neded up putting it under the broiler
>>to
>>finish cooking, it turned out fine...but you can be sure I'll be checking
>>the propane level (and maybe buying a second tank, just in case!) in the
>>future.
>>
>>Dinner was chicken & onion kababs, cheddar risotto, and some corn from my
>>mom that she froze. Tasty stuff
>> You can see pics here if you want: http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com/
>>
>>kimberly
>>

> Great blog kimberly, if you don't mind I'll add a link to yours on
> mine.
>
> koko
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> George Bernard Shaw
> www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
> updated 7/26


Thanks, and I don't mind a bit
It's still new, but it's fun so far.

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Chris Marksberry wrote:

> Well...<g>... that too has its pros and a little con. Remember to
> turn that grill off or you can run up one heck of a gas bill. My
> step-son forgot once and left it on for days. BIG NATURAL GAS BILL!
> My husband forget once and it was just overnight so it didn't do much
> damage to the bill. It was however the only time he forgot... so
> far...
>
> Chris


You should also inspect your gas pipes to make sure they are in good
shape. One of my gas pipes broke when I was at work and a neighbor
called the gas company to find the leak. They turned the gas off and I
had to have the pipe repaired. I do not know how long the gas leaked,
but my gas bill was $1,800. <ouch> I usually paid about $30 a month for
gas.

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><sf> wrote in message
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>> I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>> waiting to explode.
>>

>
>The tanks are safer than the tank of gas in your car. Just keep in outside
>in a ventilated place. Millions of people never stop to think about parking
>their car in the garage with 20 gallons of gasoline yet worry about a strong
>and secure propane than with 5 gallons in it.
>
>I have a gas grill, gas smoker, and heater for the garage so I have five
>tanks around. Not to mention the two 100 pound tanks for cooking on the
>kitchen stove. If I go, I'm going big. KaaaaaaaaaaaaBoooooooooooooooooM
>


no whimper for you!

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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>
> Sorry!
>
> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
> waiting to explode.
>
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


Don't need to check - buy a spare tank.

very very useful in earthquake country. If not useful then its a good
security blanket.

In the 94 quake we ate like KINGS. I was not about to let the steaks in the
freezer go to waste.


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> <sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>> flame was as gone as the thrill.

>>
>> Sorry!
>>
>> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
>> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
>> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>> waiting to explode.

>
> Funny you should say that, that is the exact reason I never had a spare
> around. But my uncle has assured me it's relatively safe, so I'm going to
> go ahead and get one. Our grill has a guage, but it's difficult to see in
> broad daylight, much less in the evening, so we didn't even look at it.
> Like I said, D'oh!
>
> kimberly


For goodness sakes - just don't store the spare tank under your bed. Look
at all the trailers that have the tanks on the front.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml02/02127.html


http://www.homeownernet.com/articles/bbqsafety.html


A little common sense goes a long way.


Finally;


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http://www.propane101.com/explodingpropanetanks.htm

Do Propane Tanks Explode?

This question has been asked of many propane dealers and is also a topic
discussed by people that are unfamiliar with propane, propane tanks, propane
accidents and explosions involving any type of container storing flammable
or combustible material. Propane tanks do not just explode if they fall
over, are hit by the lawnmower or a car. In fact, it would be hard to say
that a propane tank will explode if it were hit by an airplane or bullet.
Many people mistakenly believe that propane tanks in any setting will
explode if they are mishandled in some certain way. Let's explore and dispel
this common myth.

Propane Explosions 101

Propane tanks do not explode. They do not implode and nor do they rupture or
come apart on their own. In fact, bringing a propane tank to the point of
"explosion" is a tremendously difficult and time consuming task that's not
as simple as most people think. Many people believe that a propane tank
"explosion" can occur with the slightest of ease. This is not the case
whatsoever and people should understand that a propane tank, operating under
normal circumstances will not explode or rupture. Safety devices and
mechanisms are in place to prevent explosions, accidents and propane tank
ruptures or breaches. Just like any other hazardous material or activity,
human error is a primary factor in preventing or contributing to any type of
accident, however serious in nature.

BLEVE - Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion
The term BLEVE is well known among firefighters and hazardous materials
response teams and does not solely refer to propane tanks. A
BLEVE occurs when the pressure in the tank exceeds that at which the safety
relief valve can safely vent the excess pressure into the outside
atmosphere. Relief valves are designed to vent tank pressure at a certain
flow rate to the outside atmosphere once the pressure inside the propane
tank reaches a certain level and will close once the pressure in the tank
falls below that level.

Let's look at a simple example involving something we're all familiar with,
a plastic 3 liter soft drink bottle. The soft drink bottle has a 1/4" hole
drilled in its side (about the same diameter as the cord on your mouse).
This hole functions as the safety relief valve. If you were to blow air into
the bottle through the top after unscrewing the cap, the excess pressure in
the bottle would be relieved through the opening in the bottle's side
causing no damage to the bottle. Now, suppose you attached an air hose that
screwed onto the bottle top forming a tight seal and the air hose was
supplied by a large air compressor. Turning the air compressor on starts the
flow of air into the bottle which in turn creates more pressure than the
small hole (relief valve) in the side of the bottle can keep up with. The
plastic bottle starts to expand and eventually ruptures. The reason the
bottle ruptures is that the amount of increasing pressure inside the bottle
is far greater and exceeds that at which the small hole allows to escape.
The pressure in the bottle is increasing faster than it can escape through
the "relief valve".

Propane BLEVE
A propane tank BLEVE will occur when the container is subject to extreme
heat, such as in a fire. While the tank is being heated, the liquid propane
inside is being heated causing it to expand. The safety relief valve will
open allowing pressure to vent to the outside atmosphere. If the pressure
inside the tank grows to a level exceeding that at which the safety relief
valve can expel it from the tank, the propane tank may rupture. If flames or
a source of ignition is present, the propane will ignite resulting in an
explosion. It's important to know that a BLEVE will occur only if the
conditions are right, such as being subject to continuous flame impingement
over a period of time. The possibility of a propane tank explosion (BLEVE)
is extremely remote.

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> "Nexis" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> <sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>>>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>>>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>>> flame was as gone as the thrill.
>>>
>>> Sorry!
>>>
>>> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
>>> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
>>> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>>> waiting to explode.

>>
>> Funny you should say that, that is the exact reason I never had a spare
>> around. But my uncle has assured me it's relatively safe, so I'm going to
>> go ahead and get one. Our grill has a guage, but it's difficult to see in
>> broad daylight, much less in the evening, so we didn't even look at it.
>> Like I said, D'oh!
>>
>> kimberly

>
> For goodness sakes - just don't store the spare tank under your bed. Look
> at all the trailers that have the tanks on the front.
>
> http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml02/02127.html
>
>
> http://www.homeownernet.com/articles/bbqsafety.html
>
>
> A little common sense goes a long way.
>
>
> Finally;
>
>
> --
> Old Scoundrel
>
> (AKA Dimitri)
>


Dimitri, has no one ever told you there is little reason involved in fears?
;-)

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>> --
>> Old Scoundrel
>>
>> (AKA Dimitri)
>>

>
> Dimitri, has no one ever told you there is little reason involved in
> fears? ;-)
>
> kimberly



Yep, I know - sorry, One year I had a absolute irrational fear of flying I
firmly believed my number was up and I had exhausted, my flying luck and I
was destine to be in a crash.

Completely irrational I know. Like the airplane knows how many times you
have flown before.

Duhhhhhhh,



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> > Dimitri, has no one ever told you there is little reason involved in
> > fears? ;-)

>
> > kimberly

>
> Yep, I know - sorry, �One year I had a absolute irrational fear of flying I
> firmly believed my number was up and I had exhausted, my flying luck and I
> was destine to be in a crash.
>
> Completely irrational I know. �Like the airplane knows how many times you
> have flown before.
>
> Duhhhhhhh,


The airplane doesn't know but you do... any insurance actuary will
tell you that the more often you fly the more your odds increase for
being in an accident, same as the more miles you drive the better your
odds of an accident, same as the greater your age the more your chance
of suffering a life threatening illness, same as the more often you
bake cakes the more often there will be those that collapse. Fear is
a good thing and is extremely rational, that's how all animals
survive... only total morons and turnips ignore fear. Kimberly is
confusing rational fear with phobia. It's perfectly logical to be
fearful of flying unless you're a bird... Kimberly is obviously part
bird, bird brained.

M-W

pho�bia
noun

: an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a
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>
>>> --
>>> Old Scoundrel
>>>
>>> (AKA Dimitri)
>>>

>>
>> Dimitri, has no one ever told you there is little reason involved in
>> fears? ;-)
>>
>> kimberly

>
>
> Yep, I know - sorry, One year I had a absolute irrational fear of flying
> I firmly believed my number was up and I had exhausted, my flying luck and
> I was destine to be in a crash.
>
> Completely irrational I know. Like the airplane knows how many times you
> have flown before.
>
> Duhhhhhhh,
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>
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>



LOL! Reminds me of something George Carlin said..." The stewardess, because
they were called stewardess back then ya know...anyway, the stewardess said
she is never afraid of flying because if your number is up, it's just up. I
asked her, well what if *my* number isn't up...but that guy over there in
3b's number is up??"

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:30:55 -0700, "Dimitri" >
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>> <sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:42:16 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, no one ever thought to check the propane! :/
>>>> We were making the sides and wondering why we couldn't
>>>> smell the chicken much yet, so we checked it out and saw the
>>>> flame was as gone as the thrill.
>>>
>>> Sorry!
>>>
>>> How do you check propane? It doesn't have a window or a gauge.
>>> That's why the d*mn gas grill that replaced my charcoal burning Weber
>>> is almost never used. I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>>> waiting to explode.

>>
>> Funny you should say that, that is the exact reason I never had a spare
>> around. But my uncle has assured me it's relatively safe, so I'm going to
>> go ahead and get one. Our grill has a guage, but it's difficult to see in
>> broad daylight, much less in the evening, so we didn't even look at it.
>> Like I said, D'oh!
>>
>> kimberly

>
>For goodness sakes - just don't store the spare tank under your bed. Look
>at all the trailers that have the tanks on the front.
>
>http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml02/02127.html
>
>
>http://www.homeownernet.com/articles/bbqsafety.html
>
>
>A little common sense goes a long way.
>


a little less common sense, and *you* go a long way - all over the
place.

your pal,
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><sf> wrote in message
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>> I don't trust tanks so I don't keep extras
>> around. I don't like the thought of having mini bombs sitting around
>> waiting to explode.
>>

>
>The tanks are safer than the tank of gas in your car. Just keep in outside
>in a ventilated place. Millions of people never stop to think about parking
>their car in the garage with 20 gallons of gasoline yet worry about a strong
>and secure propane than with 5 gallons in it.
>
>I have a gas grill, gas smoker, and heater for the garage so I have five
>tanks around. Not to mention the two 100 pound tanks for cooking on the
>kitchen stove. If I go, I'm going big. KaaaaaaaaaaaaBoooooooooooooooooM
>


no whimper for you!

your pal,
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