On Jul 28, 10:11*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. *The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. *I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) *a smoker, and two fryers. *But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

I would love, and plan on building a wood fired oven outdoors. I have
plans, but no time!!

George Shirley wrote:
> They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from about the
> thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now they're all BBQ houses
> with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of stainless steel.

Heh. I am not interested in anything fancy. Just a burner and a
small oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about it.

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> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal
>>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is
>>> amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen.
>>
>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>
> Come on over!
>
>>> I only have a
>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>
>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it nice
>> to cook outside then?
>
> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes down
> it's not that uncomfortable.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Wayne,

Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?

Chris

Jean B. wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from about the
>> thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now they're all BBQ
>> houses with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of stainless steel.
>
> Heh. I am not interested in anything fancy. Just a burner and a small
> oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about it.
>
DW goes to art fairs and has a nice folding pavilion. I have been known
to borrow it for the day for either shade or rain. Works a charm for
continuing the cookout with drowning or roasting. Cost a little over a
hundred bucks IIRC.

On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...

>
>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
refrigerator,
>>>> plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal with
>>>> charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric.
>>>> The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use of an
outdoor
>>>> kitchen.
>>>
>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>
>> Come on over!
>>
>>>> I only have a
>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>
>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it nice
to
>>> cook outside then?
>>
>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes
down
>> it's not that uncomfortable.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Wayne,
>
> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
> residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>
> Chris

A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We rarely
go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the weekend.



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On Tue 29 Jul 2008 09:20:24a, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:03:18a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright >
>>> 5.250: in
>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to
>>>> deal with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>>> of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas grill, and the time I use
>>>> it least is in the worst heat of the summer. When it's 114+°
>>>> outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
>>> kitchen much. It's a pretty big investment to only use a couple of
>>> times a year. I'd like to see a completely decked-out outside kitchen
>>> in action though. Bet they are awesome.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> We went to a party last year at a lovely home up in Cave Creek. The
>> weather was clear and the temperature was 100-102°, not really bad for
>> here. The homeowners had a *complete* outdoor kitchen that was part of
>> the extensive covered patio. They had all the accoutrements I
>> mentioned above, as well as a standalone icemaker and a brick
>> wood-fired pizza oven, and plenty of storage for dishware, etc. There
>> were also various pergolas in the yard, a beautiful sal****er pool with
>> waterfall, and extensive misting and fogging systems throughout. I
>> don't think I saw the host or hostess go in the house for anything
>> food-related even once. I can't imagine it being much nicer than that.
>>
>
> Wow! I can only aspire to something much simpler than that!
>

Oh, come on, Jean, a spare 80-90K could put that in your yard in a couple
of weeks. Well, maybe over 100K. :-)

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George Shirley wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from about
>>> the thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now they're all BBQ
>>> houses with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of stainless steel.
>>
>> Heh. I am not interested in anything fancy. Just a burner and a
>> small oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about it.
>>
> DW goes to art fairs and has a nice folding pavilion. I have been known
> to borrow it for the day for either shade or rain. Works a charm for
> continuing the cookout with drowning or roasting. Cost a little over a
> hundred bucks IIRC.

Thanks for the clue. I need to see what my next set-up will be
before I formulate a plan.

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Jean B.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...
>
>>
>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>
>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>refrigerator,
>>>>> plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal with
>>>>> charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric.
>>>>> The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use of an
>outdoor
>>>>> kitchen.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>>
>>> Come on over!
>>>
>>>>> I only have a
>>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>>
>>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it nice
>to
>>>> cook outside then?
>>>
>>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes
>down
>>> it's not that uncomfortable.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
>> residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>>
>> Chris
>
>A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We rarely
>go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the weekend.

Do you ever go up to Prescott Valley to get corn? I can't remember
the name of the farm. They had very interesting sandwiches in the
restaurant.

On Wed 30 Jul 2008 04:39:08a, The Cook told us...

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...
>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>>>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to
deal
>>>>>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>>>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>>>>> of an outdoor kitchen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Come on over!
>>>>
>>>>>> I only have a
>>>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>>>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it
nice
>>>>> to cook outside then?
>>>>
>>>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes
>>>> down it's not that uncomfortable.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
>>> residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>>A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We rarely
>>go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the weekend.
>
> Do you ever go up to Prescott Valley to get corn? I can't remember
> the name of the farm. They had very interesting sandwiches in the
> restaurant.

No, I've only been to Prescott once since we've lived in AZ, and we were
just passing through. I never realized they grew corn there. I'll have to
make a note of that. It would make a nice day trip. Thanks, Susan.

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On Wed 30 Jul 2008 04:39:08a, The Cook told us...

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...
>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>>>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to
deal
>>>>>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>>>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>>>>> of an outdoor kitchen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Come on over!
>>>>
>>>>>> I only have a
>>>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>>>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it
nice
>>>>> to cook outside then?
>>>>
>>>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes
>>>> down it's not that uncomfortable.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
>>> residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>>A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We rarely
>>go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the weekend.
>
> Do you ever go up to Prescott Valley to get corn? I can't remember
> the name of the farm. They had very interesting sandwiches in the
> restaurant.

Curious, I began looking, and if this is the place then I'm too late. It
appears it has closed. Looks like it would have been a nice destination.

http://www.youngsfarminc.com/

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Have you ever noticed? Anybody going
slower than you is an idiot, and
anyone going faster than you is a
maniac. --George Carlin
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On Wed 30 Jul 2008 06:26:22a, The Cook told us...

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:16:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wed 30 Jul 2008 04:39:08a, The Cook told us...
>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a
>>>>>>>> complete outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill,
>>>>>>>> oven, refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too
>>>>>>>> lazy to deal with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker
>>>>>>>> it would be electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near
>>>>>>>> year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on over!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I only have a
>>>>>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of
>>>>>>>> the summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it
>>>>>>> nice to cook outside then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun
>>>>>> goes down it's not that uncomfortable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne,
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or
>>>>> other residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We
>>>>rarely go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the
>>>>weekend.
>>>
>>> Do you ever go up to Prescott Valley to get corn? I can't remember
>>> the name of the farm. They had very interesting sandwiches in the
>>> restaurant.
>>
>>Curious, I began looking, and if this is the place then I'm too late.
>>It appears it has closed. Looks like it would have been a nice
>>destination.
>>
>> http://www.youngsfarminc.com/
>
>
> That is a shame. My aunt said people came up from Phoenix in droves
> for the corn. Also for pumpkins. We used to go out for the
> vegetables. And to The Honey Man in Prescott Valley for honey and
> herbs and spices.
> My aunt died about 5 years ago and I haven't been back.
>

I obviously missed out on a great place to go. I also just found this
article, so for those seeking vegetables, this might be another good
destination in the general area. I'm sorry for the loss of your aunt.

http://campverdebugleonline.com/main...subsectionID=1
&articleID=20297

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:16:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Wed 30 Jul 2008 04:39:08a, The Cook told us...
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue 29 Jul 2008 10:10:20a, Chris Marksberry told us...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>>>>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to
>deal
>>>>>>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>>>>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>>>>>> of an outdoor kitchen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on over!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only have a
>>>>>>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>>>>>>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it
>nice
>>>>>> to cook outside then?
>>>>>
>>>>> Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes
>>>>> down it's not that uncomfortable.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>>
>>>> Wayne,
>>>>
>>>> Quick question. When the Phoenix temps get a bit unruly to do or other
>>>> residents head up to Flagstaff to get away from the heat?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>>A lot of folks do on the weekend, also to Prescott and Payson. We rarely
>>>go. There always seems so much that needs doing on the weekend.
>>
>> Do you ever go up to Prescott Valley to get corn? I can't remember
>> the name of the farm. They had very interesting sandwiches in the
>> restaurant.
>
>Curious, I began looking, and if this is the place then I'm too late. It
>appears it has closed. Looks like it would have been a nice destination.
>
> http://www.youngsfarminc.com/


That is a shame. My aunt said people came up from Phoenix in droves
for the corn. Also for pumpkins. We used to go out for the
vegetables. And to The Honey Man in Prescott Valley for honey and
herbs and spices.
My aunt died about 5 years ago and I haven't been back.

George Shirley > wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
> > George Shirley wrote:
> > > They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from
> > > about the thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now
> > > they're all BBQ houses with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of
> > > stainless steel.
> >
> > Heh. I am not interested in anything fancy. Just a burner and a
> > small oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about
> > it.
> >
> DW goes to art fairs and has a nice folding pavilion. I have been
> known to borrow it for the day for either shade or rain. Works a
> charm for continuing the cookout with drowning or roasting. Cost a
> little over a hundred bucks IIRC.

One of these things?

http://www.ezupdirect.com/index.html...ogle%3Eeasy_up

Jill

On Jul 28, 1:11�pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. �The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. �I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) �a smoker, and two fryers. �But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

What exactly makes it an outdoor kitchen... an outdoor grill,
regardless how expensive, does not a second kitchen make. Btw, most
of the world cooks outdoors, it's their only cooking facility, so this
outdoor cooking is no biggie. Most of the world has no refrigeration
either, in or out (perishables are acquired daily) and water is drawn
from a spring or some other natural water body... in the tropics, even
in large cities, potable water is typically rain water collected in
vats from roof run off, hot water is heated by solar in a tank on the
roof... natural streams and man made canals are heavily polluted,
those are the city's sewerage system. In the US cooking on thousands
of dollars worth of grill and masonry in the back yard is almost
farsical... conspicuous consumption... a pretense of a return to one's
third world roots.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 09:20:24a, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:03:18a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>>>
>>>> Wayne Boatwright >
>>>> 5.250: in
>>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>>
>>>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to
>>>>> deal with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>>>> of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas grill, and the time I use
>>>>> it least is in the worst heat of the summer. When it's 114+°
>>>>> outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>>> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
>>>> kitchen much. It's a pretty big investment to only use a couple of
>>>> times a year. I'd like to see a completely decked-out outside kitchen
>>>> in action though. Bet they are awesome.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>> We went to a party last year at a lovely home up in Cave Creek. The
>>> weather was clear and the temperature was 100-102°, not really bad for
>>> here. The homeowners had a *complete* outdoor kitchen that was part of
>>> the extensive covered patio. They had all the accoutrements I
>>> mentioned above, as well as a standalone icemaker and a brick
>>> wood-fired pizza oven, and plenty of storage for dishware, etc. There
>>> were also various pergolas in the yard, a beautiful sal****er pool with
>>> waterfall, and extensive misting and fogging systems throughout. I
>>> don't think I saw the host or hostess go in the house for anything
>>> food-related even once. I can't imagine it being much nicer than that.
>>>
>> Wow! I can only aspire to something much simpler than that!
>>
>
> Oh, come on, Jean, a spare 80-90K could put that in your yard in a couple
> of weeks. Well, maybe over 100K. :-)
>
Well, considering that fact that I'm going to buy a house within
the next year, I doubt I'll want to add that onto the tab. :-)

--
Jean B.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Jul 28, 1:11�pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. �The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. �I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) �a smoker, and two fryers. �But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
> What exactly makes it an outdoor kitchen... an outdoor grill,
> regardless how expensive, does not a second kitchen make. Btw, most
> of the world cooks outdoors, it's their only cooking facility, so this
> outdoor cooking is no biggie. Most of the world has no refrigeration
> either, in or out (perishables are acquired daily) and water is drawn
> from a spring or some other natural water body... in the tropics, even
> in large cities, potable water is typically rain water collected in
> vats from roof run off, hot water is heated by solar in a tank on the
> roof... natural streams and man made canals are heavily polluted,
> those are the city's sewerage system. In the US cooking on thousands
> of dollars worth of grill and masonry in the back yard is almost
> farsical... conspicuous consumption... a pretense of a return to one's
> third world roots.
>
it is an interesting phenomenon. Speaking of the very expensive
grills... I was opining about when I was a kid, there was a
simple brick or concrete structure. It functioned quite well....

--
Jean B.

jmcquown wrote:
> George Shirley > wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote:
>> > George Shirley wrote:
>> > > They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from
>> > > about the thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now
>> > > they're all BBQ houses with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of
>> > > stainless steel. > > Heh. I am not interested in anything fancy.
>> Just a burner and a
>> > small oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about
>> > it. > DW goes to art fairs and has a nice folding pavilion. I have been
>> known to borrow it for the day for either shade or rain. Works a
>> charm for continuing the cookout with drowning or roasting. Cost a
>> little over a hundred bucks IIRC.
>
> One of these things?
>
> http://www.ezupdirect.com/index.html...ogle%3Eeasy_up
>
> Jill
Not exactly like those. This one folds up and fits in a bag once it has
been assembled. To open two people each grab a side and walk backwards
and it cantilevers open. For windy days we took gallon milk jugs, filled
them with sand and hang them on each leg to help hold the thing down.
I'll see if I can find the name and then post it.

George Shirley wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> > George Shirley wrote:
>>> > > They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from
>>> > > about the thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now
>>> > > they're all BBQ houses with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of
>>> > > stainless steel. > > Heh. I am not interested in anything
>>> fancy. Just a burner and a
>>> > small oven in a small area with a roof and screens. That's about
>>> > it. > DW goes to art fairs and has a nice folding pavilion. I have
>>> been
>>> known to borrow it for the day for either shade or rain. Works a
>>> charm for continuing the cookout with drowning or roasting. Cost a
>>> little over a hundred bucks IIRC.
>>
>> One of these things?
>>
>> http://www.ezupdirect.com/index.html...ogle%3Eeasy_up
>>
>> Jill
> Not exactly like those. This one folds up and fits in a bag once it has
> been assembled. To open two people each grab a side and walk backwards
> and it cantilevers open. For windy days we took gallon milk jugs, filled
> them with sand and hang them on each leg to help hold the thing down.
> I'll see if I can find the name and then post it.
Okay, here's one that is very similar and about the same price except
our canopy has a white top.

http://www.canopycenter.com/canopies...ramecanopy.cfm