We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
(gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
would make me a very happy cooker.

http://tinyurl.com/646qp7

Lou

On Jul 28, 10:11*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. *The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. *I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) *a smoker, and two fryers. *But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

I'm a less-is-more kinda gal. My outdoor kitchen is a home-made solar
box cooker. (google for plans). If the earthquake demolishes our house
then I'll progress to outdoor grill - some rocks and a steel grate,
over which we could boil water, fry up flatbread in a skillet, and of
course grill meat. If we can get meat after the Big One hits. With our
pantry it's going to look more like heating up water for bulghur
pilaf. The solar box cooker can do beans, rice, anything that would do
well in a slow-cooker. We do have a camp stove but I just don't like
storing propane cannisters. Makes me nervous. Our bedroom is over the
garage. What about fumes, explosions, etc?

In the meantime, my outdoor cooking equipment budget is going toward a
55 gallon potable water barrel with siphon. More Big One preparation.
We've got a stream in the back yard but it's a trickle in the summer,
and anyway, you don't want to drink from an urban stream, even if
you're only five blocks from its source. It's been through dozens of
backyards and under houses by the time it gets to us.

Leila in Oakland, CA

Lou Decruss wrote:
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of
a screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.

--
Jean B.

> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
> I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
> screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>
> --
> Jean B.

Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.

http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/

Chris

Lou Decruss wrote:

>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

Same here. I love cooking outdoors. However, I suppose we almost have
an 'outdoor kitchen' (but only for summer use). We have prepared/cooked
entire meals on our back veranda. Our counter space/equipment/decor may
not look as good as those in the link(s) you've provided, but it still
does the trick. ;-)

I wanna move somewhere that has summer all year round (or win the
lottery and buy homes all over the globe so I can follow the sun - and
have an outdoor kitchen in each of them).
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

Chris Marksberry > wrote:
> > Lou Decruss wrote:
> > > We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article
> > > on outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online
> > > story is shorter but there's a few links if you follow through
> > > them with some wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each.
> > > I've got grills, (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers.
> > > But an outdoor kitchen would make me a very happy cooker.
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
> > >
> > > Lou
> >
> > I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
> > screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
> >
> > --
> > Jean B.
>
> Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>
> http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>
> Chris

Love it! Creative use of space.

Jill

Lou Decruss > wrote in
:

>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

We're going to remodel and rip off the current deck and do a 2nd story
addition off of the kitchen. We'll do a small deck off of that. When
that's done I'm hgihly considering the grill from Costco that has grill,
rotissere, searing burner, side burner, and fully functional oven. Aside
from that I think I'd be fine. Don't realy need/want a sink and fridge. A
cooler can be used for the ocasional need.

My "old" grill is really showing its age and to redo it would be like
$200-400 so what the heck. It would be nice to do everything outdoors
when the AC is running.

>> I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
>> screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>
> http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>
> Chris


OK, that is just freakin' awesome!

Jon

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:44:44 -0700 (PDT), Leila
> wrote:

>On Jul 28, 10:11*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. *The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. *I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) *a smoker, and two fryers. *But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
>I'm a less-is-more kinda gal. My outdoor kitchen is a home-made solar
>box cooker. (google for plans). If the earthquake demolishes our house
>then I'll progress to outdoor grill - some rocks and a steel grate,
>over which we could boil water, fry up flatbread in a skillet, and of
>course grill meat. If we can get meat after the Big One hits. With our
>pantry it's going to look more like heating up water for bulghur
>pilaf. The solar box cooker can do beans, rice, anything that would do
>well in a slow-cooker. We do have a camp stove but I just don't like
>storing propane cannisters. Makes me nervous. Our bedroom is over the
>garage. What about fumes, explosions, etc?
>
>In the meantime, my outdoor cooking equipment budget is going toward a
>55 gallon potable water barrel with siphon. More Big One preparation.
>We've got a stream in the back yard but it's a trickle in the summer,
>and anyway, you don't want to drink from an urban stream, even if
>you're only five blocks from its source. It's been through dozens of
>backyards and under houses by the time it gets to us.
>
>Leila in Oakland, CA

What you're describing sounds more like camping. I did that when I
was a kid and when our kids were young. We had friends who wanted us
to try camping again a few years ago so we got a tent and some gear.
It rained the weekend we set it up to make sure everything was ok with
the new tent. It took days for the damn thing to dry out. I folded
it up and put it away. I decided my days of "roughing it" were over.
We bought a 3 bedroom 2 1/2 bath cottage out in the boonies. That's
about as "less-is-more" as I'm willing to get. Our tent was only set
up for that trial run and was never slept in. It's 11x18 with a
screen room attached. We're saving it for the grandchildren we don't
have yet.

Lou

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:02:57 -0500, "Chris Marksberry"
> wrote:

>
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>> I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
>> screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
>Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>
>http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>
>Chris
>
Oh sure. I'm already jonsin for an outdoor room and you have to post
something that awesome!!!

Anyway.......I hope you get to join them for some fun over there.

Lou

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:46:37 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
>Same here. I love cooking outdoors. However, I suppose we almost have
>an 'outdoor kitchen' (but only for summer use). We have prepared/cooked
>entire meals on our back veranda. Our counter space/equipment/decor may
>not look as good as those in the link(s) you've provided, but it still
>does the trick. ;-)

I've got a pretty cool setup at the weekend place that has doors on
both sides of the kitchen going out to a 600 sq.ft. multilevel deck.
It works, but not awesome like the cool setups in those pictures. I'm
just being a selfish baby. The deck is wood and attached to the house
so the grills and smoker have to be placed in the yard or driveway. I
have one small gas grill I feel is safe so that goes by one door, but
that's not enough for real cooking.

>I wanna move somewhere that has summer all year round (or win the
>lottery and buy homes all over the globe so I can follow the sun - and
>have an outdoor kitchen in each of them).

How cold does it get where you are? I've grilled and Q'd in subzero
temps, but a kitchen wouldn't work. <g>

Lou

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:19:19 +0000, Chile Fiend
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss > wrote in
:
>
>>
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
>We're going to remodel and rip off the current deck and do a 2nd story
>addition off of the kitchen. We'll do a small deck off of that. When
>that's done I'm hgihly considering the grill from Costco that has grill,
>rotissere, searing burner, side burner, and fully functional oven. Aside
>from that I think I'd be fine.

That sounds nice.

> Don't realy need/want a sink and fridge. A
>cooler can be used for the ocasional need.

The fridge I could live without (since I already am) but a sink would
be very nice.

>My "old" grill is really showing its age and to redo it would be like
>$200-400 so what the heck.

I have the costco grill without the oven. It's about 5 years old and
looks and acts like day one.

>It would be nice to do everything outdoors
>when the AC is running.

Yep.. I and my SO both are miserable indoors in the summer even with
AC. We need it at night but hate being in it while awake.

Lou

On Mon 28 Jul 2008 10:11:09a, Lou Decruss told us...

>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou
>

If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete outdoor
kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven, refrigerator, plumbed
sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal with charcoal/wood fires,
and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric. The climate here in AZ is
amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas
grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the summer.
When it's 114+° outside, I'd much rather cook inside.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Monday, 07(VII)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Great and good are seldom the same
man. - Thomas Fuller
-------------------------------------------

On Jul 28, 7:50�pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Mon 28 Jul 2008 10:11:09a, Lou Decruss told us...
>
>
>
> > We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> > outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. �The online story is
> > shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> > wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. �I've got grills,
> > (gas and charcoal) �a smoker, and two fryers. �But an outdoor kitchen
> > would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> > Lou
>
> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete outdoor
> kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven, refrigerator, plumbed
> sink, and dishwasher. �I'm much too lazy to deal with charcoal/wood fires,
> and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric. �The climate here in AZ is
> amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen. �I only have a gas
> grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the summer. �
> When it's 114+� outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>
> --
> � � � � � � �Wayne Boatwright � � � � � �
> -------------------------------------------
> � � �Monday, 07(VII)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
> -------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
> � � Great and good are seldom the same � �
> � � � � � �man. - Thomas Fuller � � � � �
> -------------------------------------------

I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so miserable
most of the time it would be a waste.

Rosie

On Mon 28 Jul 2008 06:00:10p, rosie told us...

> On Jul 28, 7:50�pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> On Mon 28 Jul 2008 10:11:09a, Lou Decruss told us...
>>
>>
>>
>> > We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> > outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. �The online st ory
>> > is shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with
some
>> > wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. �I've got gr
ills,
>> > (gas and charcoal) �a smoker, and two fryers. �But an o utdoor
>> > kitchen would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> > Lou
>>
>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
outdoo
>> r kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven, refrigerator,
plumbed
>> sink, and dishwasher. �I'm much too lazy to deal with charcoal/wo od
>> fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric. �The climate
>> her e in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen.
>> �I only h ave a gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst
>> heat of the summer. � When it's 114+� outside, I'd much rather cook
>> inside.
>>
>> --
>> � � � � � � �Wayn e Boatwright � � � � � �
>> -------------------------------------------
>> � � �Monday, 07(VII)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
>> -------------------------------------------
>> ------------------------------------------- � � Great and good are
>> seldom the same � ï¿ ½ � � � � � �man. - Thomas Fuller ï¿
½
>> � � � � -------------------------------------------
>
> I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
> mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so miserable
> most of the time it would be a waste.
>
> Rosie
>

I've seen some wonderful outdoor kitchens here in AZ that were combined
with or adjacent to "Arizona Rooms" or extensive covered patios that were
highly functional during most of the year. During the hotter months, most
of these areas are cooled effectively with misting or fogging systems, but
those become ineffective when our monsoon season brings high humidity. We
are virtually free of mosquitos and other buggy pests.

I understand that your climate is quite different, however.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Monday, 07(VII)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
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I like to watch.
-------------------------------------------

"rosie" > wrote
>I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
>mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so miserable
>most of the time it would be a waste.


Same with Raleigh, NC. Hell, I just want a better indoor kitchen.

jmcquown wrote:
> Chris Marksberry > wrote:
>> > Lou Decruss wrote:
>> > > We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article
>> > > on outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online
>> > > story is shorter but there's a few links if you follow through
>> > > them with some wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each.
>> > > I've got grills, (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. > >
>> But an outdoor kitchen would make me a very happy cooker.
>> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>> > > > > Lou
>> > > I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
>> > screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>> > > --
>> > Jean B.
>>
>> Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>>
>> http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Chris
>
> Love it! Creative use of space.

I'm cracking up at this pictu

http://bp0.blogger.com/_83QWnh_lsGY/...ght+Switch.JPG

Serene

--
"I think I have an umami receptor that has developed sentience." -- Stef

>> Chris Marksberry > wrote:
>>> > Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> > > We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article
>>> > > on outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online
>>> > > story is shorter but there's a few links if you follow through
>>> > > them with some wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each.
>>> > > I've got grills, (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. > >
>>> But an outdoor kitchen would make me a very happy cooker.
>>> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>> > > > > Lou
>>> > > I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
>>> > screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>>> > > --
>>> > Jean B.
>>>
>>> Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>>>
>>> http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Love it! Creative use of space.
>
> I'm cracking up at this pictu
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_83QWnh_lsGY/...ght+Switch.JPG
>
> Serene

Umm... yeah... that's Leroy McMillin (AKA Spring Chicken) somewhat ala
naturale. There are so many pictures in there I was hoping no one would
pick up on that <g>.

BTW, Leroy is having some back surgery tomorrow so send good thoughts his
way.

Chris

Lou Decruss > wrote in
:

>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an
> article on outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye.
> The online story is shorter but there's a few links if you
> follow through them with some wonderful outdoor kitchens and I
> want one of each. I've got grills, (gas and charcoal) a
> smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen would make me
> a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

Too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter for me.

I'd prefer a HUGE new indoor kitchen with all the new
modern appliances, tools and gadgets.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

I'd love one if I lived in a climate that was from 60 to 80 degrees year
round. Winters are too long here for it to be practical.

cybercat wrote:
> "rosie" > wrote
>> I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
>> mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so miserable
>> most of the time it would be a waste.
>
>
> Same with Raleigh, NC. Hell, I just want a better indoor kitchen.

An outdoor kitchen here would just get rusty

Lou Decruss wrote:

>
> I've got a pretty cool setup at the weekend place that has doors on
> both sides of the kitchen going out to a 600 sq.ft. multilevel deck.
> It works, but not awesome like the cool setups in those pictures. I'm
> just being a selfish baby. The deck is wood and attached to the house
> so the grills and smoker have to be placed in the yard or driveway. I
> have one small gas grill I feel is safe so that goes by one door, but
> that's not enough for real cooking.

Sounds like you do have a pretty good setup to me. But, nah... you're
not being selfish. Most foodies spend a lot of time, money and effort
to turn their *indoor* kitchens into a great place to cook. So why not
do the same for outdoor kitchens? But... the biggest problem is being
able to afford to do either. <g>.

>
> How cold does it get where you are? I've grilled and Q'd in subzero
> temps, but a kitchen wouldn't work. <g>
>
> Lou

Our minimum mid-winter temperatures usually vary between -3 Deg C and 5
Deg C (which is overnight/early morning). The maximum temps can be
anything from 12 Deg C to 19 or 20 Deg C (around midday). Depends on
how many cold-fronts we have 'sweeping through' during the season. But,
as soon as the sun goes down (which is around 5.30pm in mid-winter) the
temperatures drop rapidly, and it's worse if there is no cloud cover.

Of course, you're probably thinking "What a wuss!" because I know that's
not nearly as cold as it can get in some parts of the USA (or Canada or
UK) but it's still not outdoor kitchen weather, IMHO.

However, it did get cold enough at our place in early July to form a
layer of ice (that was a centimeter thick) on top of the kidlet's
paddling-pool in the back yard one early morning, and it lasted until
midday before it began to melt... Heh. It looked like an ice-rink for
small critters, IMO. We had a few frozen water pipes and all the garden
hoses were frozen solid too. Minimum temperatures outdoors dropped to
around -8 Deg C for several days and the maximum temps didn't reach
much above 9 Deg C, IIRC. I was not impressed... We had snow in
several parts of the country at that time - but not where we live
(thank goodness).

Mind you, our weather is starting to get nice and mild again; we've had
a few afternoon outdoor cooking/grilling sessions in the last 10 days.
August can still be a bit chilly, but it's usually not too cold. Spring
arrives in September here, and a lot of folks celebrate Spring Day on
the 1st. I'm counting the days...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
>
> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>
> Lou

We saw this one on a designer show house tour this spring: It was very cool
indeed!
http://tinyurl.com/5v3ovs

Ophelia wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
>> "rosie" > wrote
>>> I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
>>> mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so miserable
>>> most of the time it would be a waste.
>>
>> Same with Raleigh, NC. Hell, I just want a better indoor kitchen.
>
> An outdoor kitchen here would just get rusty
>
>
I have enough trouble keeping the indoor kitchen clean and rust free. We
get anywhere from 30 to 100 inches of rain a year here. The 100-inch
rains make it pure hell for a whole year. Since we're every bit of 12
feet above sea level it drains pretty quick though. :-})

Ophelia wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>> "rosie" > wrote
>>> I would love to have an outdoor kitchen, have seen some that make my
>>> mouth water. However, here in SouthTexas, the weather is so
>>> miserable most of the time it would be a waste.
>>
>>
>> Same with Raleigh, NC. Hell, I just want a better indoor kitchen.
>
> An outdoor kitchen here would just get rusty

If you're still living in Scotland that may well be true. Do you
actually have summer there, or is that just a rumor? <grin>

However, joking aside, some climates lend themselves to outdoor kitchens
while others don't. I also think that most of the outdoor cooking
equipment/cupboards etc. they sell these days is/are made from
materials that can withstand the elements for xxx years, depending on
the quality. We've got some outdoor cooking equipment (that stays
outdoors) that we've had for 6 or 7 years and it's still in very good
condition. Obviously you pay a bit more for stuff that will last for
many years outdoors, but if you can afford it, it's worth it, IMHO.
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Cheers
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Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:03:18a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> Wayne Boatwright >
> 5.250: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal
>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>> of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas grill, and the time I use it
>> least is in the worst heat of the summer. When it's 114+° outside,
>> I'd much rather cook inside.
>
> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
> kitchen much. It's a pretty big investment to only use a couple of
> times a year. I'd like to see a completely decked-out outside kitchen
> in action though. Bet they are awesome.
>
> Michael

We went to a party last year at a lovely home up in Cave Creek. The
weather was clear and the temperature was 100-102°, not really bad for
here. The homeowners had a *complete* outdoor kitchen that was part of the
extensive covered patio. They had all the accoutrements I mentioned above,
as well as a standalone icemaker and a brick wood-fired pizza oven, and
plenty of storage for dishware, etc. There were also various pergolas in
the yard, a beautiful sal****er pool with waterfall, and extensive misting
and fogging systems throughout. I don't think I saw the host or hostess go
in the house for anything food-related even once. I can't imagine it being
much nicer than that.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
> refrigerator, plumbed
> sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal with charcoal/wood
> fires,
> and if I ever had a smoker it would be electric. The climate here in
> AZ is
> amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen.

Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)

> I only have a
> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>
Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it nice
to cook outside then?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:31:41a, ChattyCathy told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal
>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>> electric. The climate here in AZ is
>> amenable to near year 'round use of an outdoor kitchen.
>
> Hey, get the guest room ready, I'm on my way ;-)

Come on over!

>> I only have a
>> gas grill, and the time I use it least is in the worst heat of the
>> summer. When it's 114+ outside, I'd much rather cook inside.
>>
> Ah. That's pretty warm. What about in the evenings tho'? Isn't it nice
> to cook outside then?

Evenings can range from the mid-80s to mid-90s, but once the sun goes down
it's not that uncomfortable.

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Michael "Dog3" wrote:


>
> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
> kitchen much.

True dat. My poor thunder-phobic dogs are burning through their valium
prescriptions like nobody's business. And because my household has
gained a reputation as a safe haven for strays, my daughter's friends
keep dropping off freaked-out dogs who bolted during the storms.

Yesterday it was a black and white speckled hunting dog sort of thing
that I was seriously allergic to. At 8 am my daughter called the
veterinary clinic that had issued his rabies tag and they gave our phone
number to the dog's owner.

5 minutes later Frankie's mom was on the phone, requesting directions to
the house. They'd been up all night, driving around looking for their
two dogs. She inquired hopefully if perhaps we had the other dog as well.

No joy. However, my daughter called the friend who'd brought the dog
over and confirmed that he had indeed been running with another dog, a
dalmation, who could not be coaxed in out of the rain and bolted when
they'd tried to catch him. The best we could offer Frankie's mom was
Pirate's last known location. He was miles from his house.

I'm glad Frankie made it home but I can't stop thinking about Pirate.

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:


> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
> would make me a very happy cooker.

I think those used to be called canning kitchens -- you'd do the canning
there so you didn't heat the house with the added stove heat. :-)

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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
> I think those used to be called canning kitchens -- you'd do the canning
> there so you didn't heat the house with the added stove heat. :-)
>
Umpteen years ago I built a "harvest" kitchen fairly near the garden.
All screened in, decent roof, running water, large propane tank, old
four burner plus oven propane stove out of a junk yard and refurbished.
Had an old fridge in there, everything but a bathroom. Very sturdy table
running down the middle of it, a few chairs so prep could be done
sitting down.

And, as you said, didn't heat the house up and a decent breeze made it
nice to work out there. Lasted about three years and then a tornado ate
it, same one that took our roof. Nowadays I just crank the thermostat
down about an hour before starting work in the summer and just ignore
the heater in the winter. I did love my old harvest kitchen though.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:58:52 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>
>I think those used to be called canning kitchens -- you'd do the canning
>there so you didn't heat the house with the added stove heat. :-)


I would love to have a canning kitchen. We looked at a house that had
a complete kitchen in the basement. If the rest of the house had been
workable, we would have bought it.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:55:04 -0500, "Chris Marksberry"
> wrote:

>Umm... yeah... that's Leroy McMillin (AKA Spring Chicken) somewhat ala
>naturale. There are so many pictures in there I was hoping no one would
>pick up on that <g>.

On the ala naturale part? I thought that's why you posted it! Yes,
that was funny. He protected the important pieces of his antimony.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Michael "Dog3" said...

> Wayne Boatwright >
> 5.250: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal
>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>> of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas grill, and the time I use it
>> least is in the worst heat of the summer. When it's 114+° outside,
>> I'd much rather cook inside.
>
> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
> kitchen much. It's a pretty big investment to only use a couple of
> times a year. I'd like to see a completely decked-out outside kitchen
> in action though. Bet they are awesome.
>
> Michael


I have an outdoor kitchen poolside cabana in the back 40. BBQ. cable TV,
stereo, frige, kitchen table and chairs, serving tables, Biosun
biodegradable toilet and changing rooms ("Grass shacks"). AND foxes!

Andy
Back woods buoyant BUM!!!

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:02:15 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a pretty cool setup at the weekend place that has doors on
>> both sides of the kitchen going out to a 600 sq.ft. multilevel deck.
>> It works, but not awesome like the cool setups in those pictures. I'm
>> just being a selfish baby. The deck is wood and attached to the house
>> so the grills and smoker have to be placed in the yard or driveway. I
>> have one small gas grill I feel is safe so that goes by one door, but
>> that's not enough for real cooking.
>
>Sounds like you do have a pretty good setup to me. But, nah... you're
>not being selfish. Most foodies spend a lot of time, money and effort
>to turn their *indoor* kitchens into a great place to cook. So why not
>do the same for outdoor kitchens? But... the biggest problem is being
>able to afford to do either. <g>.

Renovating is always so expensive. My brother decided to redo his
whole house and put an addition on. After meeting with several
contractors he and his wife learned it was't much more to tear down
the old one and build new.

>> How cold does it get where you are? I've grilled and Q'd in subzero
>> temps, but a kitchen wouldn't work. <g>
>>
>> Lou
>
>Our minimum mid-winter temperatures usually vary between -3 Deg C and 5
>Deg C (which is overnight/early morning). The maximum temps can be
>anything from 12 Deg C to 19 or 20 Deg C (around midday). Depends on
>how many cold-fronts we have 'sweeping through' during the season. But,
>as soon as the sun goes down (which is around 5.30pm in mid-winter) the
>temperatures drop rapidly, and it's worse if there is no cloud cover.
>
>Of course, you're probably thinking "What a wuss!" because I know that's
>not nearly as cold as it can get in some parts of the USA (or Canada or
>UK) but it's still not outdoor kitchen weather, IMHO.
>
>However, it did get cold enough at our place in early July to form a
>layer of ice (that was a centimeter thick) on top of the kidlet's
>paddling-pool in the back yard one early morning, and it lasted until
>midday before it began to melt... Heh. It looked like an ice-rink for
>small critters, IMO. We had a few frozen water pipes and all the garden
>hoses were frozen solid too. Minimum temperatures outdoors dropped to
>around -8 Deg C for several days and the maximum temps didn't reach
>much above 9 Deg C, IIRC. I was not impressed... We had snow in
>several parts of the country at that time - but not where we live
>(thank goodness).

You wouldn't like it here then.
>
>Mind you, our weather is starting to get nice and mild again; we've had
>a few afternoon outdoor cooking/grilling sessions in the last 10 days.
>August can still be a bit chilly, but it's usually not too cold. Spring
>arrives in September here, and a lot of folks celebrate Spring Day on
>the 1st. I'm counting the days...

I think where I'm at I could get at least 7, maybe 8 months of use out
of most of a kitchen. But built in stoves, ovens, and grills could be
used all year. I'd want a covered area though. Maybe with parts of
it screened. We had a large canopy at out last city home. We went
the whole summer without eating dinner inside. We're both outside
people. Many times I'd fall asleep in my outdoor lounger and Louise
would wake me up at 2 am to come to bed.

Lou

Chris Marksberry wrote:
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>>
>>> Lou
>> I want a summer kitchen.... I am thinking more along the lines of a
>> screened porch type thing--or a little separate building.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> Here's what a friend of ours did. He's a fellow BGE owner.
>
> http://springchickencoop.blogspot.com/
>
> Chris
>
>
Oh! Very, er, cool!

--
Jean B.

dejablues wrote:
> "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
> ...
>> We get the hard copy of Water Garden News and there's an article on
>> outdoor kitchens that (obviously) caught my eye. The online story is
>> shorter but there's a few links if you follow through them with some
>> wonderful outdoor kitchens and I want one of each. I've got grills,
>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/646qp7
>>
>> Lou
>
> We saw this one on a designer show house tour this spring: It was very cool
> indeed!
> http://tinyurl.com/5v3ovs
>
>
Gorgeous! Is there a roof over that area?

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:03:18a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright >
>> 5.250: in
>> rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> If I had the resources, I would absolutely love to have a complete
>>> outdoor kitchen, to include an elaborate gas grill, oven,
>>> refrigerator, plumbed sink, and dishwasher. I'm much too lazy to deal
>>> with charcoal/wood fires, and if I ever had a smoker it would be
>>> electric. The climate here in AZ is amenable to near year 'round use
>>> of an outdoor kitchen. I only have a gas grill, and the time I use it
>>> least is in the worst heat of the summer. When it's 114+° outside,
>>> I'd much rather cook inside.
>> The climate here is so nasty lately I'm not sure I'd use the outside
>> kitchen much. It's a pretty big investment to only use a couple of
>> times a year. I'd like to see a completely decked-out outside kitchen
>> in action though. Bet they are awesome.
>>
>> Michael
>
> We went to a party last year at a lovely home up in Cave Creek. The
> weather was clear and the temperature was 100-102°, not really bad for
> here. The homeowners had a *complete* outdoor kitchen that was part of the
> extensive covered patio. They had all the accoutrements I mentioned above,
> as well as a standalone icemaker and a brick wood-fired pizza oven, and
> plenty of storage for dishware, etc. There were also various pergolas in
> the yard, a beautiful sal****er pool with waterfall, and extensive misting
> and fogging systems throughout. I don't think I saw the host or hostess go
> in the house for anything food-related even once. I can't imagine it being
> much nicer than that.
>

Wow! I can only aspire to something much simpler than that!

--
Jean B.

George Shirley wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>
>> I think those used to be called canning kitchens -- you'd do the
>> canning there so you didn't heat the house with the added stove heat.
>> :-)
>>
> Umpteen years ago I built a "harvest" kitchen fairly near the garden.
> All screened in, decent roof, running water, large propane tank, old
> four burner plus oven propane stove out of a junk yard and refurbished.
> Had an old fridge in there, everything but a bathroom. Very sturdy table
> running down the middle of it, a few chairs so prep could be done
> sitting down.
>
> And, as you said, didn't heat the house up and a decent breeze made it
> nice to work out there. Lasted about three years and then a tornado ate
> it, same one that took our roof. Nowadays I just crank the thermostat
> down about an hour before starting work in the summer and just ignore
> the heater in the winter. I did love my old harvest kitchen though.

Ouch! What a loss!

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> (gas and charcoal) a smoker, and two fryers. But an outdoor kitchen
>>>> would make me a very happy cooker.
>>>
>>> I think those used to be called canning kitchens -- you'd do the
>>> canning there so you didn't heat the house with the added stove
>>> heat. :-)
>>>
>> Umpteen years ago I built a "harvest" kitchen fairly near the garden.
>> All screened in, decent roof, running water, large propane tank, old
>> four burner plus oven propane stove out of a junk yard and
>> refurbished. Had an old fridge in there, everything but a bathroom.
>> Very sturdy table running down the middle of it, a few chairs so prep
>> could be done sitting down.
>>
>> And, as you said, didn't heat the house up and a decent breeze made it
>> nice to work out there. Lasted about three years and then a tornado
>> ate it, same one that took our roof. Nowadays I just crank the
>> thermostat down about an hour before starting work in the summer and
>> just ignore the heater in the winter. I did love my old harvest
>> kitchen though.
>
> Ouch! What a loss!
>
They were fairly common in rural areas of East Texas in from about the
thirties until sometime in the late sixties. Now they're all BBQ houses
with $5,000.00 pits in them and lots of stainless steel.