Nancy Young wrote:

> l, not -l wrote:
>
>> I worked for a large, mid-west regional bank for 30 years; sometime
>> in the 80s the bomb checklist and annual bomb-threat training became
>> mandatory. The bomb checklist was a printed card, that had the
>> checklist on one side and and attention getting graphic on the other;
>> you were supposed to hold it up so others could see it while you
>> tried to keep a threatening caller on the line as long as possible.
>> While you could see the checklist, office mates would see the graphic
>> and call security - that was the theory, anyway; fortunately, we
>> never had to use it.
>
>
> You reminded me of a funny thing that happened to me long ago.
> I was just 18, working at a Japanese bank in Manhattan. The
> emperor of Japan was visiting the city and the red army was
> threatening to blow up a bank. This had the Japanese men in a
> panic.
> They came up front with a wooden box. In it was a gun. It was
> explained to me that I should use it to hold off the terrorists while
> all the men escaped out the back door.
>
> Still makes me laugh, all these years later. What dolts.

I subbed at a local high school in a "behaviorally disordered" class
room. The teacher's notes said that during a specific period I would
have only 4 students and that I should try to keep myself between a
certain boy and the door in case he were to try to make a break for freedom.

When that period rolled around I was greeted by 4 young men, 18 and 19
year-olds. The gentleman who'd been the subject of the note was
probably about 6'2" and outweighed me by around 80 pounds.

You'd better believe I didn't let that kid get between me and the door,
but not because I was afraid *he* was going to run off.

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
>>
>> The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak & Ale.
>> another of their restaurants have closed.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
>>
>> I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Couldn't have happened to a 'nicer' place. All the derogatory comments
> here, esp. the 'meat/meet market' one I'll second for around here (the
> closest is in Allentown). Took the hoarde there once (hub, all four kids
> and eldest's significant other - 7 in total). Waitress took order then
> 'forgot' to turn it in. Motioned to another waitress who got the manager
> who hunted down the other waitress to retrieve the order. Eldest daughter
> ordered a veggie burger, came out as a rare hamburger, original waitress
> went 'my bad, but no problem, you'll eat it right?'......Wrong, toots, she
> WON'T eat it, get us what she ordered. DIL wanted a swiss burger (she
> loves mushrooms), her's came without mushrooms....HELLO! When asked about
> mushrooms the same slack assed waitress went in the back, came back with a
> can opener, a 4oz. can of mushrooms and a bowl, opened them, dumped them
> in the bowl and told her there were her mushrooms....that was it. Hub
> wanted the manager as did eldest son....manager again came over,
> apologizing, going 'we're short handed in the kitchen'......Eldest, who
> was trained in food service said the front of the house's work ethic
> should not be blamed on a shortage in kitchen staff and any reputable
> joint should be able to cover most bases if need be by either managerment
> stepping in or calling in people to cover on busy nights. Manager said
> they would 'comp' us dessert. Big whoop. When we got the tab they added
> a 22% tip to it for 'big parties'.....Then we did go ballistic.......Told
> the manager that we WOULD tip the second waitress that came over when we
> were summarily ignored by the first but not the ignorant cow who
> originally took the order.....manager said adding tip 'guaranteed' all the
> waitresses got tipped. Begrudgingly we paid the tab minus the tip and I
> contacted their corporate offices. Three weeks later I get a call from
> some little girl (that's what it sounded like on the phone) who asked 'so
> whaddaya want me to do about it?
>
> This was over a year and a half ago and we haven't set foot in the place
> since......if all the other people who were screwed, blewed and tattooed
> by that place did the same, no wonder they are bankrupt.
> -ginny


I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends there
for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I could not
imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge attitude, gave lousy
service, threw food on the table and stalked off and when I complained to
the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy hair and pimples, I was
basically told I could go someplace else if I didn't like it and I was stuck
with her for a waitress. And the waitress gave herself a nice tip, too.
Just added it to the CC. The CC company refunded it but they could not have
cared less about the abuse of the card.

I avoide chain places when at all possible.

Paul

Paul M. Cook said...

> I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends
> there
> for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I could
> not imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge attitude, gave
> lousy service, threw food on the table and stalked off and when I
> complained to the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy hair and
> pimples, I was basically told I could go someplace else if I didn't like
> it and I was stuck with her for a waitress. And the waitress gave
> herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the CC. The CC company
> refunded it but they could not have cared less about the abuse of the
> card.
>
> I avoide chain places when at all possible.
>
> Paul


Paul M. Cook,

Good grief!!! What a scary experience!

I avoid eating out altogether.

Most restaurant kitchens are a daily friggin' nightmare of health concerns.
Been there, seen it.

That's why I learned to cook!

Best,

Andy

Kathleen said...

> I subbed at a local high school in a "behaviorally disordered" class
> room. The teacher's notes said that during a specific period I would
> have only 4 students and that I should try to keep myself between a
> certain boy and the door in case he were to try to make a break for
> freedom.
>
> When that period rolled around I was greeted by 4 young men, 18 and 19
> year-olds. The gentleman who'd been the subject of the note was
> probably about 6'2" and outweighed me by around 80 pounds.
>
> You'd better believe I didn't let that kid get between me and the door,
> but not because I was afraid *he* was going to run off.


Kathleen,

You know how to drop an attacking 500 lb. monster in an instant? Without
firearms?

Kick his approaching kneecap backwards as hard as possible and wind-up slap
his ear as hard as hell.

Say goodnight!

Andy

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
>
> The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak & Ale.
> another of their restaurants have closed.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
>
> I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.

There's a Bennigans near my parents house. They rarely eat there and its
been at least three or four years since the last time I ate there. They
model themselves like an Irish Pub, but I can think of lots of locally
owned Irish pubs in my area where I can eat for a reasonable price that
have great food, and some even have live music, so I rarely had a reason
to eat at Bennigans. Same sort of story for Steak & Ale.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2008-07-30, Virginia Tadrzynski > wrote:
>
> > weeks later I get a call from some little girl (that's what it sounded like
> > on the phone) who asked 'so whaddaya want me to do about it?
>
> The primary problem with chains ...besides the lousy food. After they get
> so big, customer feedback is just an annoyance to be ignored. I complained
> to Carls Jr about day old burgers and got zero response. All you can do is
> avoid them.

I think its silly to lump all chain restaurants together. Sure, there
are a lot of bad chain restaurants, but there are a lot of good ones
too. Someone else (goomba, I believe) was extolling the virtues of PF
Chang's in another thread). I tend to avoid chain restaurants because I
have lots of locally owned places that I like, but I can think of some
chains that are pretty good.

For example, for Italian food, the only chain restaurant I enjoy is
Carraba's. They have an open kitchen and you can sit at the bar and
watch the chefs prepare the food. The food is pretty good and watching
the food being prepared is entertaining. Their prices are reasonable and
I have never had anything less then first rate service there.

Another chain that I like is Texas Roadhouse. For a reasonable amount of
money, you get great service, good food, and a nice atmosphere.

Stan Horwitz said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
>>
>> The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak & Ale.
>> another of their restaurants have closed.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
>>
>> I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.
>
> There's a Bennigans near my parents house. They rarely eat there and its
> been at least three or four years since the last time I ate there. They
> model themselves like an Irish Pub, but I can think of lots of locally
> owned Irish pubs in my area where I can eat for a reasonable price that
> have great food, and some even have live music, so I rarely had a reason
> to eat at Bennigans. Same sort of story for Steak & Ale.


Stan,

Mornin!

I never heard of Steak & Ale until yesterday's news.

BTW, there's a true and great Irish pub (the name escapes me) on 21st and
Walnut just on the corner of Rittenhouse Square. I was impressed with the
kind offer to join the IRA. I had a Guiness instead. Still thinking it
over, 10 years later.

Best,

Andy

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Andy <q> wrote:
> > Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
> >
> > The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak &
> > Ale. another of their restaurants have closed.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
> >
> > I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.
> >
> > Andy
>
> Used to meet co-workers at Bennigan's after work from time to time. I only
> ever had appetizers there but IIRC they were okay. That was 15 years ago.
> I was told the week before I started work someone called in a bomb threat to
> the office. People walked over to Bennigan's while the building was
> searched. Then someone phoned a bomb threat to Bennigan's! There was a
> phone booth (remember those?!) across the street from both buildings. I
> imagine the perpetrator had a grand time watching both places being
> evacuated.

Working at a university, bomb threats are not unheard of. Every once in
a while during final or mid-term exams, a bomb threat is reported for
one of the classroom buildings. Gee! I wonder why that happens! When I
was a student, We had to evacuate class twice during exams due to bomb
threats, and that was something like 20 years ago. It gets old real
quickly, but so do all the false fire alarms in my building. Ironically,
just this week, we had to evacuate for a real fire. There was a small
fire on an elevator in my building. It was quickly extinguished by the
fire company, but we were out of the building for half an hour and no
one was injured.

"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>
> "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> >> Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
> >>
> >> The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak & Ale.
> >> another of their restaurants have closed.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
> >>
> >> I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Couldn't have happened to a 'nicer' place. All the derogatory comments
> > here, esp. the 'meat/meet market' one I'll second for around here (the
> > closest is in Allentown). Took the hoarde there once (hub, all four kids
> > and eldest's significant other - 7 in total). Waitress took order then
> > 'forgot' to turn it in. Motioned to another waitress who got the manager
> > who hunted down the other waitress to retrieve the order. Eldest daughter
> > ordered a veggie burger, came out as a rare hamburger, original waitress
> > went 'my bad, but no problem, you'll eat it right?'......Wrong, toots, she
> > WON'T eat it, get us what she ordered. DIL wanted a swiss burger (she
> > loves mushrooms), her's came without mushrooms....HELLO! When asked about
> > mushrooms the same slack assed waitress went in the back, came back with a
> > can opener, a 4oz. can of mushrooms and a bowl, opened them, dumped them
> > in the bowl and told her there were her mushrooms....that was it. Hub
> > wanted the manager as did eldest son....manager again came over,
> > apologizing, going 'we're short handed in the kitchen'......Eldest, who
> > was trained in food service said the front of the house's work ethic
> > should not be blamed on a shortage in kitchen staff and any reputable
> > joint should be able to cover most bases if need be by either managerment
> > stepping in or calling in people to cover on busy nights. Manager said
> > they would 'comp' us dessert. Big whoop. When we got the tab they added
> > a 22% tip to it for 'big parties'.....Then we did go ballistic.......Told
> > the manager that we WOULD tip the second waitress that came over when we
> > were summarily ignored by the first but not the ignorant cow who
> > originally took the order.....manager said adding tip 'guaranteed' all the
> > waitresses got tipped. Begrudgingly we paid the tab minus the tip and I
> > contacted their corporate offices. Three weeks later I get a call from
> > some little girl (that's what it sounded like on the phone) who asked 'so
> > whaddaya want me to do about it?
> >
> > This was over a year and a half ago and we haven't set foot in the place
> > since......if all the other people who were screwed, blewed and tattooed
> > by that place did the same, no wonder they are bankrupt.
> > -ginny
>
> I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends there
> for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I could not
> imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge attitude, gave lousy
> service, threw food on the table and stalked off and when I complained to
> the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy hair and pimples, I was
> basically told I could go someplace else if I didn't like it and I was stuck
> with her for a waitress. And the waitress gave herself a nice tip, too.
> Just added it to the CC. The CC company refunded it but they could not have
> cared less about the abuse of the card.
>
> I avoide chain places when at all possible.
>
> Paul

On the CC fraud thing I would have reported that to the police as well.
Not likely they'd do anything, but still a chance they would.

Article in the local paper this morning. There are seven Bennigan's in
Louisiana and they're not closing. Seems they are owned by a franchisee
and he doesn't intend to close them as they are all doing well.

Article said the restaurant had around fifty phone calls yesterday from
customers wanting to know if they were closed or not.

Kathleen wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> You reminded me of a funny thing that happened to me long ago.
>> I was just 18, working at a Japanese bank in Manhattan. The
>> emperor of Japan was visiting the city and the red army was
>> threatening to blow up a bank. This had the Japanese men in a
>> panic.
>> They came up front with a wooden box. In it was a gun. It was
>> explained to me that I should use it to hold off the terrorists while
>> all the men escaped out the back door.
>>
>> Still makes me laugh, all these years later. What dolts.
>
> I subbed at a local high school in a "behaviorally disordered" class
> room. The teacher's notes said that during a specific period I would
> have only 4 students and that I should try to keep myself between a
> certain boy and the door in case he were to try to make a break for
> freedom.
>
> When that period rolled around I was greeted by 4 young men, 18 and 19
> year-olds. The gentleman who'd been the subject of the note was
> probably about 6'2" and outweighed me by around 80 pounds.
>
> You'd better believe I didn't let that kid get between me and the
> door,
> but not because I was afraid *he* was going to run off.

Oh, that's too funny. Yeah, I'll hold him here, don't you worry.
You'd be about as successful as I would holding be off the
Red Army. Good luck with that.

nancy

Paul M. Cook wrote:

> I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends
> there for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I
> could not imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge
> attitude, gave lousy service, threw food on the table and stalked off
> and when I complained to the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy
> hair and pimples, I was basically told I could go someplace else if I
> didn't like it and I was stuck with her for a waitress. And the
> waitress gave herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the CC. The
> CC company refunded it but they could not have cared less about the
> abuse of the card.

Wow. The Macaroni Grill near me was reviewed by the pub style
restaurant reviewer in the local paper. It was *scathing* about how
awful the service was. I forget the details, but the bartender was
beyond rude. What were they doing to their employees to make them
so hostile, I wonder.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends
>> there for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I
>> could not imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge
>> attitude, gave lousy service, threw food on the table and stalked off
>> and when I complained to the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy
>> hair and pimples, I was basically told I could go someplace else if I
>> didn't like it and I was stuck with her for a waitress. And the
>> waitress gave herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the CC. The
>> CC company refunded it but they could not have cared less about the
>> abuse of the card.
>
> Wow. The Macaroni Grill near me was reviewed by the pub style
> restaurant reviewer in the local paper. It was *scathing* about how
> awful the service was. I forget the details, but the bartender was
> beyond rude. What were they doing to their employees to make them
> so hostile, I wonder.

My theory is the fish stinks from the head. The management clearly has an
anti-customer mentality This is reflected by the wait-staff. It is further
exacerbated when the wait-staff knows whatever they do will be dismissed by
management. So if they are having a bad day, you are going to have a bad
day as well. That seems to be the corporate mentality these days; if you
don't like it, screw you - we can put somebody else at that table. They
truly believe they are doing you some kind of favor by serving you and if
you don't like it, you can leave. It's become the norm in any of those
chain places.

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>> And the waitress gave herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the
>>> CC. The CC company refunded it but they could not have cared less
>>> about the abuse of the card.
>>
>> Wow. The Macaroni Grill near me was reviewed by the pub style
>> restaurant reviewer in the local paper. It was *scathing* about how
>> awful the service was. I forget the details, but the bartender was
>> beyond rude. What were they doing to their employees to make them
>> so hostile, I wonder.
>
> My theory is the fish stinks from the head. The management clearly
> has an anti-customer mentality This is reflected by the wait-staff.
> It is further exacerbated when the wait-staff knows whatever they do
> will be dismissed by management. So if they are having a bad day,
> you are going to have a bad day as well. That seems to be the
> corporate mentality these days; if you don't like it, screw you - we
> can put somebody else at that table.

It's ridiculous, who wants to live in that negative atmosphere all
the time. This place closed shortly after that review. And right
after that review the paper stopped letting the guy give stars
(well, in his case, pretzels) and his reviews are almost always
positive now. Sucks.

> They truly believe they are
> doing you some kind of favor by serving you and if you don't like it,
> you can leave. It's become the norm in any of those chain places.

I eat at chains occasionally, I have to say I can't complain about
the service. Well, there was the guy who knelt down, I don't like
that much, but he wasn't actually rude.

nancy

Just Visiting wrote:

> I thought Bennigan's had one of the best American burgers and fries in
> town! So sad...

The franchise restaurants should still be open. My favorite is
hamburger is at Fatburger or Whataburger, a local chain.

Becca

Stan Horwitz wrote:

> For example, for Italian food, the only chain restaurant I enjoy is
> Carraba's. They have an open kitchen and you can sit at the bar and
> watch the chefs prepare the food. The food is pretty good and watching
> the food being prepared is entertaining. Their prices are reasonable and
> I have never had anything less then first rate service there.
>
> Another chain that I like is Texas Roadhouse. For a reasonable amount of
> money, you get great service, good food, and a nice atmosphere.

Well, I agree with you about Carrabba's, but I have never tried Texas
Roadhouse.

Have you tried the Gulf Coast Kitchen? It is owned by Tony Mandola,
Johnny Carrabba's uncle. Very good seafood.

Becca

Andy wrote:
> Kathleen said...
>
>
>>I subbed at a local high school in a "behaviorally disordered" class
>>room. The teacher's notes said that during a specific period I would
>>have only 4 students and that I should try to keep myself between a
>>certain boy and the door in case he were to try to make a break for
>>freedom.
>>
>>When that period rolled around I was greeted by 4 young men, 18 and 19
>>year-olds. The gentleman who'd been the subject of the note was
>>probably about 6'2" and outweighed me by around 80 pounds.
>>
>>You'd better believe I didn't let that kid get between me and the door,
>>but not because I was afraid *he* was going to run off.
>
>
>
> Kathleen,
>
> You know how to drop an attacking 500 lb. monster in an instant? Without
> firearms?
>
> Kick his approaching kneecap backwards as hard as possible and wind-up slap
> his ear as hard as hell.
>
> Say goodnight!

Dude, I know also sorts of ways to stop a human or canine assailant. In
point of fact, I have many more years in teaching dogs than I do human
children. You'd be amazed, though, at how much crosses over.

Still, my personal philosphy is such that maiming a teenager when flight
is an option is simply bad form.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:29:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>l, not -l wrote:
>
>> I worked for a large, mid-west regional bank for 30 years; sometime
>> in the 80s the bomb checklist and annual bomb-threat training became
>> mandatory. The bomb checklist was a printed card, that had the
>> checklist on one side and and attention getting graphic on the other;
>> you were supposed to hold it up so others could see it while you
>> tried to keep a threatening caller on the line as long as possible.
>> While you could see the checklist, office mates would see the graphic
>> and call security - that was the theory, anyway; fortunately, we
>> never had to use it.
>
>You reminded me of a funny thing that happened to me long ago.
>I was just 18, working at a Japanese bank in Manhattan. The
>emperor of Japan was visiting the city and the red army was
>threatening to blow up a bank. This had the Japanese men in a
>panic.
>
>They came up front with a wooden box. In it was a gun. It was
>explained to me that I should use it to hold off the terrorists while
>all the men escaped out the back door.
>
>Still makes me laugh, all these years later. What dolts.
>
>nancy
>

giving a subordinate a powerful weapon seems foolish under any
circumstances.

your pal,
blake

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Andy wrote:
> > Kathleen said...
> >
> >
> >>I subbed at a local high school in a "behaviorally disordered" class
> >>room. The teacher's notes said that during a specific period I would
> >>have only 4 students and that I should try to keep myself between a
> >>certain boy and the door in case he were to try to make a break for
> >>freedom.
> >>
> >>When that period rolled around I was greeted by 4 young men, 18 and 19
> >>year-olds. The gentleman who'd been the subject of the note was
> >>probably about 6'2" and outweighed me by around 80 pounds.
> >>
> >>You'd better believe I didn't let that kid get between me and the door,
> >>but not because I was afraid *he* was going to run off.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kathleen,
> >
> > You know how to drop an attacking 500 lb. monster in an instant? Without
> > firearms?
> >
> > Kick his approaching kneecap backwards as hard as possible and wind-up slap
> > his ear as hard as hell.
> >
> > Say goodnight!
>
> Dude, I know also sorts of ways to stop a human or canine assailant. In
> point of fact, I have many more years in teaching dogs than I do human
> children. You'd be amazed, though, at how much crosses over.
>
> Still, my personal philosphy is such that maiming a teenager when flight
> is an option is simply bad form.

Minor note - 18 and 19 year olds are not teenagers, if they want to
leave they have every legal right to.

Becca wrote:
> Just Visiting wrote:
>
>> I thought Bennigan's had one of the best American burgers and fries
>> in town! So sad...
>
> The franchise restaurants should still be open. My favorite is
> hamburger is at Fatburger or Whataburger, a local chain.
>
> Becca

I tried Whataburger, once, right after they opened here. It wasn't a
do-over. It's just fast food - a thin patty on a large bun with mustard.
Sorry, Becca, I didn't see the appeal. :-(

kili

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:29:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:

>> You reminded me of a funny thing that happened to me long ago.
>> I was just 18, working at a Japanese bank in Manhattan. The
>> emperor of Japan was visiting the city and the red army was
>> threatening to blow up a bank. This had the Japanese men in a
>> panic.
>>
>> They came up front with a wooden box. In it was a gun. It was
>> explained to me that I should use it to hold off the terrorists while
>> all the men escaped out the back door.
>>
>> Still makes me laugh, all these years later. What dolts.

> giving a subordinate a powerful weapon seems foolish under any
> circumstances.

Despite all evidence to the contrary, we never got them to
believe us American women were not subservient. It was
rather amusing to yank their chain once in a while.

nancy

Becca said...

> Just Visiting wrote:
>
>> I thought Bennigan's had one of the best American burgers and fries in
>> town! So sad...
>
> The franchise restaurants should still be open. My favorite is
> hamburger is at Fatburger or Whataburger, a local chain.
>
> Becca


Becca,

I INSIST on FatBurger!!! Beats In'n'Out, imho. A mostly SoCal concern.

"The Last Great Hamburger Stand Since 1952"

Andy
Wears the baseball cap to prove it!!!

Pete C. said...

> Minor note - 18 and 19 year olds are not teenagers, if they want to
> leave they have every legal right to.


In Pennsylvania, the age of consensual sex is 16-years-old.

Can't leave home for TOO long without permission.

Andy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
> Dimitri wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> I am not much of a breakfast eater, and I really wasn't back then,
>>> but adventure wasn't what I was looking for. I don't remember what I
>>> ordered, just some un-adventurous plate of maybe toast
>>> and eggs? Something like that. The waitress came to take away the
>>> plates and said Well, we must be hungry! WTF? (laugh) I
>>> have no idea why she said that.
>>
>> Because she flunked out of Med School.
>
> (laugh) She'd never make it as a nurse!
>
> nancy

No shit. Most people have no idea of the legal responsibilities of nurses
as a check against doctors.


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

Nancy Young wrote:

> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
> > I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends
> > there for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I
> > could not imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge
> > attitude, gave lousy service, threw food on the table and stalked off
> > and when I complained to the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy
> > hair and pimples, I was basically told I could go someplace else if I
> > didn't like it and I was stuck with her for a waitress. And the
> > waitress gave herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the CC. The
> > CC company refunded it but they could not have cared less about the
> > abuse of the card.
>
> Wow. The Macaroni Grill near me was reviewed by the pub style
> restaurant reviewer in the local paper. It was *scathing* about how
> awful the service was. I forget the details, but the bartender was
> beyond rude. What were they doing to their employees to make them
> so hostile, I wonder.


Maybe they got their training at a ******* bar...???

;-)

Seriously, here's some reviews (including mine, natch!) from a local
Chicawgo site about a ******* bar that most everyone seems to hate. I
thought my review was scathing, but every time a new negative review is
posted my jaw drops - and I'm real jaded. Anyways, these are pretty funny,
you can't make this stuff up! A coupla excerpts, read the whole thread for
larfs, my entire review is at the end :


http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-closet-chicago

"The Closet:

"Was I having a nightmare? You know, the one where I'm stuck in a 90's
cliche and my mullet keeps getting caught in my thick gold chain and someone
keeps stepping on my white Nikes? *shiver* Makes me break out in a cold
sweat now just thinking about it.

No, it wasn't quite THAT nightmare, but stepping in here is like
experiencing something awfully close. I think I may have even recognized
someone from my nightmare.

How could it get worse? No Jameson at all. And $9 for a crappy jigger of
Jack on the rocks. I'm not that picky, but come ON!'
-------------------------

.. Nasty looking lesbo wearing stretch jeans and oversized sweater (that
ain't hiding shit) playing bartender? Check.

2. No Jameson? Really. A bar without Jameson. No Sam Adams. About 6
beers on tap and 6 bottles. Crap liquor selection. Check.

3. *******s who don't get out enough. Check.

4. *******s who think they need to go to a ******* bar to be a *******.
Check.

5. Intense feelings of regret over the fact that I will never get back the
two hours and $35 that I spent there. Check
------------------------------

You know, being *** in Texas, I understand being uncomfortable - really.
But when I go to a *** bar - and not only *** - ******* bar - I should NEVER
feel like I don't belong. This place is full of regulars and a few of them.
And my partner and I walk in to be stared at like we don't belong?! I'm
sorry, I was out shopping and wanted to be in a family environment for an
hour to settle down. Instead we're having to listen to these older women
discussing their lives so loudly. And no women's basketball game on!?
What!? I did go to a ******* bar right? It boggles the mind. One time we
went in there and an older gentleman nursing a beer had his dog in there.
Wow, that would be fantastic! But I bet I can't b/c I'm not a regular.

And the beer and liquor selection are ridiculous! I'm glad I like Southern
Comfort, b/c there's nothing else I would choose. Not one beer would I want
to drink there. The taps and bottles are such random choices. I don't
understand this place. And I hate when stereotypes stare me in the face
when I'm one trying to change all of that. And DO NOT stare at me weird
when I kiss my girlfriend!! It - is - a - ******* - bar. Jeez...
----------------------------------

That smell, what is it?

Ah yes, it is The Closet

My skin ... EEW! ... it crawls
----------------------

If you are a guy (*** or straight) you are welcome when they are not busy.
Otherwise you are not wanted...even despised. My favorite story is when
the fireplug-of-a bulldyke bartender refused to serve me a glass of water,
after I had been sitting there all night ordering drinks...tipping her very
well. Does that even make sense? Ever hear of dram shop laws? That was
the last time I went there..

A previous time the bouncer told me to get one of my acquaintances into
rehab, cause she thought he had a serious problem. Yet they continued to
let him in night after night, get a few drinks out of him, and only then,
kick him out. Such concern.

I have to add that I have seen other dykes treated like crap by the charming
staff . So even if you are *** girl you are not safe from the hate. I just
don't understand what they are so angry about.
--------------------------------------

The bartenders are rude, and even though I've seen them warm up a little to
some of their more regular customers, mostly they're just surly and
apparently unhappy to be working there. I can't blame them though, since
they work in a dump
----------------------------------

What do you get when you mix snobby bitch dykes, a crummy smelly fugly bar
and Britney Spears?

The Closet. Absolutely the WORST establishment ever in existence.

Do NOT go here unless you are suicidal and ready to kill yourself because
this crap hole will absolutely verify your every reason for wanting to GET
OFF PLANET EARTH. UGH.
-------------------------------------

The Closet - a total hole in the wall, dirty little *** bar with very
interesting patrons. I'd imagine that if you're not into the more "clubby"
type of bars or if you live nearby, the Closet is a great place to go. But
honestly? It's not my first choice. It's not even my second or third.
Wait..It may not even be in my top ten.

I've only met one bartender who actually had a personality and didn't swipe
their tip off the bar faster than you could actually put it down. They don't
accept credit cards, which was said in another review and is a major
downfall for many people. The bathrooms are absolutely disgusting. On
weekend nights they overcrowd the bar and go way over the legal capacity
posted right by the front door. Now that may not be a big deal to some
people, but considering the actual size of The Closet, I sure as shit
wouldn't want to be stuck in there with over one hundred people if a fire
broke out in the backroom. It's just unsafe.

Small, stinky, over-priced bar with a not-so-friendly staff and very
judgmental patrons who, to be honest, shouldn't throw rocks when they live
in glass houses. I guess that's what happens when you have nothing better to
do but sit in one bar whenever you have free time
--------------------------

GREGORY MORROW writes:

The Closet is a ghastly dump in every way, e.g. nasty staff, rip off drinks,
and tar - paper shack "decor". The gals that work here remind one of guards
in those old female prison movies - they loathe their jobs and it SURE
shows. This is what a bulldyke bar in South Bend IN c. 1948 must have been
like, as they still have the "We're the ONLY game in town, so like it or
LUMP IT " attitude. And because of constant problems with toilets
overflowing, out - of - order smoke eaters, and malfunctioning beer tap
lines the place literally does STINK...

When there are ethically - run *** businesses around such as Unabridged
Books, Sidetrack, Ping Pong, Roscoe's, etc. you have to wonder what the MO
of a place like the Closet is. You can drop hundreds or even thousands of
dollars here over the course of time (as I and many of my friends did) and
the staff and owners will merrily continue right along to not only ignore
you but to also be downright rude to your face. Very puzzling! Ladies,
you need to get out of the Bat Cave that is the Closet and go over to
Cocktail or Sidetrack to see how a bar should be run. Whatever - the Closet
should be featured as a case example in every business school curriculum on
how NOT to run a business...

This stretch of Broadway now has some groovy businesses (restos and such).
It's nice to see these stylish new ventures and their customers who are
obviously having a good time. And then there is the Closet, still dank
after all these years. It looks like some skid row bar out of the set of
that famous 1945 alcoholism movie _The Lost Weekend_...with 2007 Ritz -
Carlton prices, natch. Maybe the owners will even let you hock your
typewriter there for a drink, lol...

The two old nasty dyke owners don't care.. Example: patrons used to
provide nice food for Sunday Night Football, various holidays, even the
memorial "services" of several patrons who passed on. The owners would
never even bother to thank the folks (let alone show up) who took the time,
trouble, and money to donate the food or whatever, they simply appear to
open the place and take their cash drop to the bank. The most egregrious
example of such rude nonsense was when they decided to have a "birthday
party" for a long - time customer - and the celebrant's PARTNER was asked AT
THE END OF THE PARTY to pony up the dough for the cheap Jewel sheet cake
and Dollar Store decorations, the partner was even presented with RECEIPTS
for this plush celebration, LOL...!!! Besides which they've never given
back to the *** community...in fact they are an embarrassment TO the ***
community.

The nitwit loser staff have apparently been chosen for their TOTAL lack of
customer service skills - not to mention sheer stupidity. I've seen some
REALLY ugly incidents here, instigated by the staff. I guess they don't
realise that folks go out to have a GOOD TIME. Toxic bartender Karen is the
*worst*, she'd make Hitler cower. Doorkeeps Lisa and Tabitha are not much
better. Tabitha once refused entrance to a party of Europeans because she
didn't know what a *passport* was - let alone that it's a valid ID for
entering a bar; she's also the one who routinely SHINES her flashlight RIGHT
into a patron's eyes [!]. Lisa once made a HUGE ugly scene because somone
inadvertently and innocently poured themselves a cup of coffee, using HER
Sylvester the Cat coffee mug. DUH! These girls *really* need anti -
depressants, lol...

WATCH your money - NEVER leave a wad of cash on the bar. Some of the
barkeeps suffer from "sticky finger syndrome". I witnessed one *really*
blatant "shortchanging" incident. The patron got her proper change back
when she threatened to call 911...

Oh, and I'm banned here, which I consider the supreme mark of honor, lol...

Addenda added 3/5/08:
- To the poster who mentioned that they only had one kind of beer: years
ago the place apparently bounced a check to their liquor distributor. This
a liquor code violation, and a place that does this is FOREVER DOOMED to a
COD - only basis for future liquor deliveries. They are poorly stocked
with the giggle juice because they don't have the cash on hand for liquor
purchases. The owners are SO cheap that they mark their liquor bottles to
ensure that there's no over - pouring!
- In January of ' 04 they were closed down for a week because of late -
night overcrowding. They over - crowd because that's the only shift on
which they make any money..."

</>

l, not -l said...

>
> On 31-Jul-2008, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> I avoid eating out altogether.
>>
>> Most restaurant kitchens are a daily friggin' nightmare of health
>> concerns.
>> Been there, seen it.
>>
>> That's why I learned to cook!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> What are you, a hermit? You don't go to movies, you don't eat out - I
bet
> you grocery shop online and have it delivered to the BatCave too. ;-)


Oh, NO!!! I supermarket shop and flirt to death while I'm at it.

I've enticed too many women, why just today...

Nevermind, some magic I have!!!

Andy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> I got the same treatment at a Macaroni Grill when I met some friends
>> there for dinner once. Incredibly rude, almost hostile waitress. I
>> could not imagine what her problem was but she copped a huge
>> attitude, gave lousy service, threw food on the table and stalked off
>> and when I complained to the manager, a 20 something kid with greasy
>> hair and pimples, I was basically told I could go someplace else if I
>> didn't like it and I was stuck with her for a waitress. And the
>> waitress gave herself a nice tip, too. Just added it to the CC. The
>> CC company refunded it but they could not have cared less about the
>> abuse of the card.
>
> Wow. The Macaroni Grill near me was reviewed by the pub style
> restaurant reviewer in the local paper. It was *scathing* about how
> awful the service was. I forget the details, but the bartender was
> beyond rude. What were they doing to their employees to make them
> so hostile, I wonder.
>
> nancy

There's another place I will not go again. Never, no never.

We were at a Macaroni Grill with another couple after an early play. I
ordered as I often do a dish of spaghetti & Meatball(s). The dish was
served and the meatball(s) were still FROZEN in the inside.

It took me 10 minutes to get someone's attention. by the time they nuked the
meatball(s) everyone else at the table was finished with their dinner.

Needless to say it left me a bit UNHAPPY.


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

kilikini wrote:
> Becca wrote:
>> Just Visiting wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Bennigan's had one of the best American burgers and fries
>>> in town! So sad...
>> The franchise restaurants should still be open. My favorite is
>> hamburger is at Fatburger or Whataburger, a local chain.
>>
>> Becca
>
> I tried Whataburger, once, right after they opened here. It wasn't a
> do-over. It's just fast food - a thin patty on a large bun with mustard.
> Sorry, Becca, I didn't see the appeal. :-(
>
> kili

Sorry you did not care for Whataburger.

The last time I was there, a young lady was sitting behind me, and she
would not eat because her burger had mustard on it. Ooops, the poor
girl was not from around here. All of their burgers are served with
mustard, unless you request something else. My husband has to ask for
Mayo, and he puts ketchup on his burger. For me? Mustard rules!

Becca

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:24:32 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>Seriously, here's some reviews (including mine, natch!) from a local
>Chicawgo site about a ******* bar that most everyone seems to hate. I
>thought my review was scathing, but every time a new negative review is
>posted my jaw drops - and I'm real jaded. Anyways, these are pretty funny,
>you can't make this stuff up! A coupla excerpts, read the whole thread for
>larfs, my entire review is at the end :
>
>
>http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-closet-chicago
>
>"The Closet:
>
>"Was I having a nightmare?

We have a wildly popular bar in the Mission that employs *******
bartenders too. Horrible, horrible, horrible service. I can be
sitting or standing belly up to the bar... cash in hand and they look
over my head at a man (straight or ***) to take his order like I'm not
even there. Obviously, I stopped going there for after work TGIFs.
I'm not the only one who's had that sort of experience, so I guess
that's the way they shape their customer base.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:16:38 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 30-Jul-2008, aem > wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 6:20*am, Andy <q> wrote:
>> > It's just bothers me to no end that Bennigan's didn't give the employees
>> > advanced notice. Now, overnight they have to scramble to get on a new
>> > payroll somewhere else, FAST.
>> >
>> It's normal, afaik, for lawyers to tell management to keep news of a
>> planned bankruptcy filing confidential. Even more so when it's a part
>> of a publicly traded company. -aem
>
>Unless the business is reorganizing, why would you go to work once you know
>they are entering bankruptcy - at that point you are just another unpaid
>creditor, who must wait in line for pennies on the dollar, if anything.

According to the DH, who is a bankruptcy lawyer, sez that wages get
paid ahead of the creditors, BUT that it would take maybe 3 years to
get your wages IF then. Typically, everything is hocked to the hilt,
including kitchen gear which has zip resale value. And you can't touch
the parent corporation, as it is the subsidiary that filed the 7.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:57:04 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-30, Virginia Tadrzynski > wrote:
>
>> weeks later I get a call from some little girl (that's what it sounded like
>> on the phone) who asked 'so whaddaya want me to do about it?
>
>The primary problem with chains ...besides the lousy food. After they get
>so big, customer feedback is just an annoyance to be ignored. I complained
>to Carls Jr about day old burgers and got zero response. All you can do is
>avoid them.
>
The DH and I are on a Road Trip with The Kid and have been less than
thrilled with most of our <cough! cough!> "dining opportunities."
Chili's is the one chain that we've now been to 3 times, mainly b/c
that's about all that was either on offer or was within walking
distance - no one wanted to get back into the car! We're headed home
now and just stopped in Gila Bend AZ for lunch (113 F, thank you) at
the "Space Age Cafe," a kitchy little roadside joint. The DH ordered a
cheeseburger that was <OMG!> a cheeseburger! It was a real hamburger
patty with real cheese, a piece of real (okay, Iceberg) lettuce, a
real tomato (one that looked like it had actually been attached to a
plant grown in the ground) with condiments in red, yellow and plain
squeeze bottles. No "special sauce," no "1/4 lb, triple stack, heart
attack," no add-ons that a good piece of beef doesn't need. And it was
$3.29 which included non-greasy onion rings and a "bottomless" glass
of iced tea. The DH said it actually *tasted* like a hamburger he'd
make for himself at home on the grill. It sez somethin' about
somethin' that he actually commented on it more than once.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> l, not -l said...
>
>>
>> On 31-Jul-2008, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>>> I avoid eating out altogether.
>>>
>>> Most restaurant kitchens are a daily friggin' nightmare of health
>>> concerns.
>>> Been there, seen it.
>>>
>>> That's why I learned to cook!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> What are you, a hermit? You don't go to movies, you don't eat out - I
> bet
>> you grocery shop online and have it delivered to the BatCave too. ;-)
>
>
> Oh, NO!!! I supermarket shop and flirt to death while I'm at it.
>
> I've enticed too many women, why just today...
>
> Nevermind, some magic I have!!!
>

Chicks really dig bat caves.

Paul

Paul M. Cook said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> l, not -l said...
>>
>>>
>>> On 31-Jul-2008, Andy <q> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I avoid eating out altogether.
>>>>
>>>> Most restaurant kitchens are a daily friggin' nightmare of health
>>>> concerns.
>>>> Been there, seen it.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I learned to cook!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> What are you, a hermit? You don't go to movies, you don't eat out - I
>> bet
>>> you grocery shop online and have it delivered to the BatCave too. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Oh, NO!!! I supermarket shop and flirt to death while I'm at it.
>>
>> I've enticed too many women, why just today...
>>
>> Nevermind, some magic I have!!!
>>
>
> Chicks really dig bat caves.
>
> Paul


TRUE.

<sf> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:24:32 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
> >Seriously, here's some reviews (including mine, natch!) from a local
> >Chicawgo site about a ******* bar that most everyone seems to hate. I
> >thought my review was scathing, but every time a new negative review is
> >posted my jaw drops - and I'm real jaded. Anyways, these are pretty
funny,
> >you can't make this stuff up! A coupla excerpts, read the whole thread
for
> >larfs, my entire review is at the end :
> >
> >
> >http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-closet-chicago
> >
> >"The Closet:
> >
> >"Was I having a nightmare?
>
> We have a wildly popular bar in the Mission that employs *******
> bartenders too. Horrible, horrible, horrible service. I can be
> sitting or standing belly up to the bar... cash in hand and they look
> over my head at a man (straight or ***) to take his order like I'm not
> even there. Obviously, I stopped going there for after work TGIFs.
> I'm not the only one who's had that sort of experience, so I guess
> that's the way they shape their customer base.


*******s can have really, REALLY severe "anger management"
problems...'course if I was like some of them I'd be angry too, lol.

In the case of the bar I was speaking of, you hafta wonder why a bar would
have such nasty staff, but then the owners aren't any better and are stupid
to boot...

In a metro area of 8 million as Chicago is, you'd think there would be at
least *one* nice ******* bar, but no. In fact there are only about three
******* bars total. Going to them is like visiting a time capsule of what
*** bars were 50 years ago, e.g. dirty, smelly, "take or leave it". It's
just kinda "odd" to me...


--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:16:07 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>I INSIST on FatBurger!!! Beats In'n'Out, imho. A mostly SoCal concern.
>
>"The Last Great Hamburger Stand Since 1952"
>
ITA, Andy - Fat Burger is the DH's fave and the *only* hamburger I'll
eat. Generally speaking, I don't like hamburgers - still can't eat an
entire Fat Burger, but I do like Baby Fats :-)

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Terryl Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:16:07 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>>I INSIST on FatBurger!!! Beats In'n'Out, imho. A mostly SoCal concern.
>>
>>"The Last Great Hamburger Stand Since 1952"
>>
> ITA, Andy - Fat Burger is the DH's fave and the *only* hamburger I'll
> eat. Generally speaking, I don't like hamburgers - still can't eat an
> entire Fat Burger, but I do like Baby Fats :-)

I played a lot of tennis when I was a yoot. A quarter mile or so from
some of the courts I used was an A&W. Quart rootbeers in a cardboard
*cone*-shaped container (looked like an old-time non-electric megaphone;
the narrow end had the cap). MmmmmmDOGGIES, did they ever taste good!


--
Blinky
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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Stan Horwitz wrote:
>
> > For example, for Italian food, the only chain restaurant I enjoy is
> > Carraba's. They have an open kitchen and you can sit at the bar and
> > watch the chefs prepare the food. The food is pretty good and watching
> > the food being prepared is entertaining. Their prices are reasonable and
> > I have never had anything less then first rate service there.
> >
> > Another chain that I like is Texas Roadhouse. For a reasonable amount of
> > money, you get great service, good food, and a nice atmosphere.
>
> Well, I agree with you about Carrabba's, but I have never tried Texas
> Roadhouse.
>
> Have you tried the Gulf Coast Kitchen? It is owned by Tony Mandola,
> Johnny Carrabba's uncle. Very good seafood.

No. The Gulf Coast Kitchen doesn't exist in my area, plus I am not a
seafood fan.

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Stan Horwitz said...
>
> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >
> >> Bennigan's closes and files for bankruptcy.
> >>
> >> The talking heads reported this morning that Bennigans and "Steak & Ale.
> >> another of their restaurants have closed.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6f95k3
> >>
> >> I ate at Bennigans maybe twice. Nice enough place as I remember.
> >
> > There's a Bennigans near my parents house. They rarely eat there and its
> > been at least three or four years since the last time I ate there. They
> > model themselves like an Irish Pub, but I can think of lots of locally
> > owned Irish pubs in my area where I can eat for a reasonable price that
> > have great food, and some even have live music, so I rarely had a reason
> > to eat at Bennigans. Same sort of story for Steak & Ale.
>
>
> Stan,
>
> Mornin!
>
> I never heard of Steak & Ale until yesterday's news.
>
> BTW, there's a true and great Irish pub (the name escapes me) on 21st and
> Walnut just on the corner of Rittenhouse Square. I was impressed with the
> kind offer to join the IRA. I had a Guiness instead. Still thinking it
> over, 10 years later.

The Irish Pub you have in mind is called, just that, "The Irish Pub." I
have been there a few times. Its nice if you like Irish Pubs. There's
also another one, also called "The Irish Pub" a few blocks east on
Walnut Street. I am fairly sure they are both owned by the same people,
and they are both great.

Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>> Stan,
>>
>> Mornin!
>>
>> I never heard of Steak & Ale until yesterday's news.
>>
>> BTW, there's a true and great Irish pub (the name escapes me) on
>> 21st and Walnut just on the corner of Rittenhouse Square. I was
>> impressed with the kind offer to join the IRA. I had a Guiness
>> instead. Still thinking it over, 10 years later.
>
> The Irish Pub you have in mind is called, just that, "The Irish Pub."
> I have been there a few times. Its nice if you like Irish Pubs.
> There's also another one, also called "The Irish Pub" a few blocks
> east on Walnut Street. I am fairly sure they are both owned by the
> same people, and they are both great.

I just went to The Irish Pub's website, perused their menu and such, and it
appears they have 3 locations - one in Atlantic City, believe it or not. I
love the look and feel of an Irish pub, so this place would be right up my
alley. :~)

kili

kilikini said...

> Stan Horwitz wrote:
>> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>>>
>>> Stan,
>>>
>>> Mornin!
>>>
>>> I never heard of Steak & Ale until yesterday's news.
>>>
>>> BTW, there's a true and great Irish pub (the name escapes me) on
>>> 21st and Walnut just on the corner of Rittenhouse Square. I was
>>> impressed with the kind offer to join the IRA. I had a Guiness
>>> instead. Still thinking it over, 10 years later.
>>
>> The Irish Pub you have in mind is called, just that, "The Irish Pub."
>> I have been there a few times. Its nice if you like Irish Pubs.
>> There's also another one, also called "The Irish Pub" a few blocks
>> east on Walnut Street. I am fairly sure they are both owned by the
>> same people, and they are both great.
>
> I just went to The Irish Pub's website, perused their menu and such, and
> it appears they have 3 locations - one in Atlantic City, believe it or
> not. I love the look and feel of an Irish pub, so this place would be
> right up my alley. :~)
>
> kili


kili,

In L.A., in a local Irish pub, darts was a favorite bar game, with guests
bringing customized sets of darts, very beautiful and exotic (real
feathers, balanced and such!

I don't remember darts at the Philly Irish pub. Maybe I didn't see the
whole place. My Irish wife, then, kept me out of trouble.

I was never good at darts.

Best,

Andy
Has real dartboard cabinet, with backwards numbers in places, chalkboarded
doors for scoring, and cheap plastic finned darts .