On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Lynn from Fargo
> wrote:

>On Jul 30, 11:09*am, Corey Richardson `R> wrote:
>> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
>>
>> It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
>> sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
>>
>> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?
>=============================================== ==
>
>No option for cheese.
>

<snort>

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:27:23 +0100, Corey Richardson
`R> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Lynn from Fargo
> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 30, 11:09*am, Corey Richardson `R> wrote:
>>> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
>>>
>>> It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
>>> sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
>>>
>>> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?
>>================================================ =
>>
>>No option for cheese.
>>
>>Lynn in Fargo
>
>It has cheese!

it's obviously inauthentic then.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT), aem >
wrote:

>On Jul 30, 9:09*am, Corey Richardson `R> wrote:
>> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
>>
>> It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
>> sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
>>
>> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?
>
>I imagine a McD management meeting:
>
> - let's drop some bbq sauce on a burger.
> - ok, we can sell that as a 'bbq beef burger'.
> - no, bbq beef has nothing to do with a beef patty and we
>certainly don't want to spend the money to make real bbq beef.
> - ok, we'll call it 'oriental bbq beef burger' because orientals
>don't know about bbq either and that'll deflect any criticism.
> - you're a genius.

now's the time to start the rumor that they've switched from ground-up
worms to dog meat.

your pal,
blake

Mike........ wrote:
> Following up to Nancy Young
>
>> The article says it's part of Alaska?
>
> Hi Nancy, the Alaskan island is 2.4miles from the Russian island, no
> doubt your people and there people stare at each other through
> binoculars! :-)

(laugh) We could arrest each other for spying.

I was asking why it was posted as being a nation near America.
It seems like it's still America. I had assumed the answer would
be Russia.

nancy

"Mike........" wrote:

> Following up to Tim C.
>
> > Russia, RUSSIA!
>
> Is that the USSR?

It might have been 20 years ago when there was a USSR.

"Mike........" > ha scritto nel messaggio
.. .
> Following up to Tim C.
>
>> I don't know any more. What's it called now? the Russian Federation or
>> something?
>
> whatever it is, i'm not impressed by the politicians there.
> --
> Mike.....................

Whose politicians impress you? Not the wives, the politicians.

"Mike........" > wrote in message
...
> Following up to Tracy
>
>> riental" and people were "Asian". I don't
>> think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.
>
> the UK census seperates "Asian" from "Chinese", so I assume we replace
> "oriental" with "chinese", didnt realise oriental was defamatory, does
> every racial word become an insult over time?


Yes they do, negro.

"sf" wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:14:12 -0400, Tracy > wrote:
>
>>I thought carpets/rugs were "Oriental" and people were "Asian". I don't
>>think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.
>
> Rugs from China are called Chinese rugs. You know what Persian rugs
> are - the area is debatable, but centers in Iran. Rugs from India and
> the surrounding areas are called Oriental, but tagged by country of
> origin.
>
> The people of Asia are called Asians as a whole or identified
> individually by their country of origin (if you know it). I'm an
> American first, a North American second, "of European ancestry" a
> distant third.


Well then! I'm in the same genetic boat as you.

My 27th great Grandfather murdered the king of England.

My Great Granny was Cherokee.

Do you ride bareback?


TFM®

"Corey Richardson" `R> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:42:17 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>Calling people Orientals reeks old fashioned
>>Colonial attitude.
>
> Even the Chinese describe it as Oriental. At the UK's Wing Yip online
> store it's described as "Chinese and Oriental Food Made Easy - Online"
>
> http://www.wingyipstore.co.uk/
>
> I think only PC people have a problem with the term "Oriental".
>

So Mac users are exempt?

"Jerry Sauk" > wrote in message
news
>
> "Mike........" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Following up to Mike........
>>
>> >>But in the US,
>> >> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.
>> >
>> > So do we, although we are of course an archipelego or whatever off the
>> > coast.
>>
>> the only person i have heard of who was confused was a US immigration
>> official who though Scotland was part of England! Its hard to see what
>> other continent you could include the UK with?
>> --
>> Mike.....................
>> Google-groups killfiled
>> Remove clothing to email
>
> This topiv has nothing to do at all with fast-food. Please discontinue
> sross-posting to alt.fast-food please.
>
>

Topic stopped now! Thank you *sir*! <salute>

TFM® - Go **** yerself!

"Mike........" > wrote in message
.. .
> Following up to Tim C.
>
>> I don't know any more. What's it called now? the Russian Federation or
>> something?
>
> whatever it is, i'm not impressed by the politicians there.


I'm not impressed with the politicians here either. I don't live in
Russia...yet.



--
TFM®
Everyone else's never have defeated my logic!

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:27:29 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:30:38 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> >>So guy told me that some folks in San Fransisco wanted to name a sewage
> >>plant after GW Bush. I told him stop telling me such BS. :-)
> >
> >Yep, it's true.... it's on the ballot and I don't see how it won't
> >pass. This City is only 9% Republican.
>
>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA7A11QU1S.DTL
>
> republicans have no gift for irony. actually, they don't have a gift
> for much of anything besides thievery.


To paraphrase President Reagan: "There you go again, blake...".

Really, it's quite immature to paint "the opposition" in such black - and -
white terms, childish even. You are *much* smarter than that I know, blake.
Use yer noggin, fer cryin' out loud...and grow up!

When Cyd Charisse died recently, I was discussing her with an acquaintance
(a die - hard Democrat) who immediately cut me off with, "But...but...she
was a REPUBLICAN!". I guess the fact that she was a Republican negated all
her of her talent, the fact that she had a stable marriage of 60 years to
Tony Martin, that she raised a family, and that she was generally known as a
kind and generous person...

<oh well>

I *really* wonder how some of you "liberal" birds will channel your hatred
when the Shrub is no longer around...should the rest of us be scared, I
wonder...???


--
Best
Greg

TFM® wrote:

> "Mike........" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Following up to Tim C.
> >
> >> I don't know any more. What's it called now? the Russian Federation or
> >> something?
> >
> > whatever it is, i'm not impressed by the politicians there.
>
>
> I'm not impressed with the politicians here either. I don't live in
> Russia...yet.


Despite throwing off Communism, dabbling in democracy, and becoming ardently
capitalist, Russia is still a dire place, a real shite hole...


--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:48:38 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>To paraphrase President Reagan: "There you go again, blake...".
>
>Really, it's quite immature to paint "the opposition" in such black - and -
>white terms, childish even. You are *much* smarter than that I know, blake.
>Use yer noggin, fer cryin' out loud...and grow up!
>
>When Cyd Charisse died recently, I was discussing her with an acquaintance
>(a die - hard Democrat) who immediately cut me off with, "But...but...she
>was a REPUBLICAN!". I guess the fact that she was a Republican negated all
>her of her talent, the fact that she had a stable marriage of 60 years to
>Tony Martin, that she raised a family, and that she was generally known as a
>kind and generous person...
>
><oh well>
>
>I *really* wonder how some of you "liberal" birds will channel your hatred
>when the Shrub is no longer around...should the rest of us be scared, I
>wonder...???

I'm of the opinion that whoever the current president is has little to
do with what's going on. There's too many checks and balances. And
too many people don't see things as cyclical because of short term
thinking. Handouts are nice, but where is all the money going to come
from? Healthcare for all is only a deal for those who can't pay. The
burden will fall on those of us who can pay. Sorry, but I pay enough
already. Until last year we were paying taxes in 3 different school
districts and paying college tuitions. Yet we were only able to claim
one as a dependent. How is that fair? Rather than reward people who
have children they can't afford they should be taxed. The number of
welfare babies would plummet.

Someone sent this to me a few days ago. Although it's rather skewed
it cracked me up:

For those of you who slept through World History 101 here is a
condensed version.

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the
summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the
winter.

The two most important events in all of history we

1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to
the beer, and the beer to the man.

These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together
were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct
subgroups:

1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the
beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can
were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around
waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the
brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is
known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live
off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing
the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the
Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest
became known as girlie-men.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of
cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of
the Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide
how to divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest,
most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are
symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer
white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their
beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal
fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women
have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers,
personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and
group therapists are liberals.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide
for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys,
firemen, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police
officers, corporate executives, athletes, golfers, and generally
anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire
other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers
and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans
are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals
remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They
crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of
trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily
respond to the above before forwarding it.

A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute
truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other
true believers..

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:48:38 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
> >To paraphrase President Reagan: "There you go again, blake...".
> >
> >Really, it's quite immature to paint "the opposition" in such black -
and -
> >white terms, childish even. You are *much* smarter than that I know,
blake.
> >Use yer noggin, fer cryin' out loud...and grow up!
> >
> >When Cyd Charisse died recently, I was discussing her with an
acquaintance
> >(a die - hard Democrat) who immediately cut me off with, "But...but...she
> >was a REPUBLICAN!". I guess the fact that she was a Republican negated
all
> >her of her talent, the fact that she had a stable marriage of 60 years
to
> >Tony Martin, that she raised a family, and that she was generally known
as a
> >kind and generous person...
> >
> ><oh well>
> >
> >I *really* wonder how some of you "liberal" birds will channel your
hatred
> >when the Shrub is no longer around...should the rest of us be scared, I
> >wonder...???
>
> I'm of the opinion that whoever the current president is has little to
> do with what's going on. There's too many checks and balances. And
> too many people don't see things as cyclical because of short term
> thinking. Handouts are nice, but where is all the money going to come
> from? Healthcare for all is only a deal for those who can't pay. The
> burden will fall on those of us who can pay. Sorry, but I pay enough
> already. Until last year we were paying taxes in 3 different school
> districts and paying college tuitions. Yet we were only able to claim
> one as a dependent. How is that fair? Rather than reward people who
> have children they can't afford they should be taxed. The number of
> welfare babies would plummet.


A good idea...!!!


> Someone sent this to me a few days ago. Although it's rather skewed
> it cracked me up:
>
> For those of you who slept through World History 101 here is a
> condensed version.
>
> Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
> hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the
> summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the
> winter.
>
> The two most important events in all of history we
>
> 1. The invention of beer, and
> 2. The invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to
> the beer, and the beer to the man.
>
> These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together
> were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct
> subgroups:
>
> 1. Liberals
> 2. Conservatives.
>
> Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the
> beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can
> were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around
> waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the
> brewery. That's how villages were formed.
>
> Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
> night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is
> known as the Conservative movement.
>
> Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live
> off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing
> the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the
> Liberal movement.
>
> Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest
> became known as girlie-men.
>
> Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of
> cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of
> the Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide
> how to divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.
>
> Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest,
> most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are
> symbolized by the jackass.
>
> Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer
> white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their
> beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal
> fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women
> have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers,
> personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and
> group therapists are liberals.
>
> Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide
> for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys,
> firemen, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police
> officers, corporate executives, athletes, golfers, and generally
> anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire
> other conservatives who want to work for a living.
>
> Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers
> and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans
> are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals
> remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They
> crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of
> trying to get more for nothing.
>
> Here ends today's lesson in world history.
>
> It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily
> respond to the above before forwarding it.
>
> A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute
> truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other
> true believers..


Very funny, thanx...

--
Best
Greg

Mike........ wrote:

> Following up to Corey Richardson
>
>
>>Still not very "Oriental" is it?
>
>
> you eat it with chopsticks.

That you eat it at all defies logic.

Dave

Mark Thorson wrote:

> Corey Richardson wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
>>>than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem
>>
>>AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
>>Indian/Pakistani.
>
>
> In the UK, "Europe" begins on the other side
> of the English channel. But in the US,
> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.
> So we aren't likely to look to them for
> geography lessons.

But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope happens.

Dave

Mike........ wrote:

> Following up to Corey Richardson
>
>
>>>Please stop posting in rfc since you don't have a clue on how to cook.
>>
>>If you can't cook AND enjoy a fast-food meal sometimes then you're
>>missing something, IMHO.
>
>
> this has nothing to do with the UK being in Scandanavia, did you know that
> if you stand on the last northerly land of the UK,

I tentatively ask just where this is?

> the nearest capital city
> is Bergen? Or that the most northerly McD is probably twenty four hours
> travelling to the south in Elgin?

Now that is the bit on info I can do without.

Dave

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>> Corey Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
>>>>than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem
>>>
>>>AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
>>>Indian/Pakistani.
>>
>>
>> In the UK, "Europe" begins on the other side
>> of the English channel. But in the US,
>> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.
>> So we aren't likely to look to them for
>> geography lessons.
>
> But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope
> happens.
>
> Dave

You'll lose your free medical care firstly.

Don't take that lightly.

If I slip in the kitchen and cut my guts out, it's up to me to pay the half
million dollars required to put them back in.

This ****ing country is a skeleton of it's former self. It's a ****ing
communist POS. You can't ride a bike here without a helmet.


I'm ready to move to Mexico as I understand there are no Mexicans there
anymore.


TFM®

"TFM®" > wrote in message
. com...
>
>
> "Dave" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>
>>> Corey Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
>>>>>than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem
>>>>
>>>>AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
>>>>Indian/Pakistani.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the UK, "Europe" begins on the other side
>>> of the English channel. But in the US,
>>> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.
>>> So we aren't likely to look to them for
>>> geography lessons.
>>
>> But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope
>> happens.
>>
>> Dave
>
> You'll lose your free medical care firstly.
>
> Don't take that lightly.
>
> If I slip in the kitchen and cut my guts out, it's up to me to pay the
> half million dollars required to put them back in.
>
> This ****ing country is a skeleton of it's former self. It's a ****ing
> communist POS. You can't ride a bike here without a helmet.
>
>
> I'm ready to move to Mexico as I understand there are no Mexicans there
> anymore.


Heh heh, the only mexicans there now are running the breeding farms.

Are you threatening me?

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:09:23 -0400, TFM® >
wrote:

>You can't ride a bike here without a helmet.

Then don't. Several things can happen. You'll be ticketed
(unlikely), you'll fall and do damage - maybe permanent damage and
you'll be a vegetable for the rest of your life, or you'll die.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Dave the nice British person wrote:
>
> But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope happens.

Statehood is granted on a politically balanced basis,
for example Hawaii (Democrat) and Alaska (Republican)
were admitted at about the same time. The current
best prospects for states 51 and 52 are admission of
Puerto Rico (Democrat) and Guam (Republican).

How would we balance admission of the UK? Also,
note that we probably could only admit England.
Scotland and Wales would probably use the
opportunity to declare independence. Beats me
what Northern Ireland would do.

Mike ............ wrote:

> Following up to Dave
>
>
>>>this has nothing to do with the UK being in Scandanavia, did you know that
>>>if you stand on the last northerly land of the UK,
>>
>>I tentatively ask just where this is?
>
>
> Mucklefluuga, Unst is the end of the UK
> "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/herma_ness.htm"
>
> Drive to Aberdeen, take the overnight ferry, drive up mainland Shetland,
> take the ferry to Yell, drive across Yell flat out (why time the ferries
> like that?) and onto Unst. Park at the interpretation centre. Theres a
> coast path and a moorland path, so its a choice between puffins and gannets
> or being dive bombed by bonxies. Its some of the best scenery and wildlife
> in the UK. If you want to get onto Mucklefluuga itself, theres a boatman
> below the interpretation centre, note he uses a lifeboat style launching
> ramp and once landed on Muckleflugga, theres a good chance of not being
> able to get off.
>
> Where to eat?
> The run down pub is under new ownership now or you can dine with the laird,
> a "special" experience. Saxavord is an old RAF base converted to holiday
> accomodation. There is a shop in Baltasound where you can buy a
> .....sandwich!

Can't see me getting up there till next summer.

Dave

Mike ............ wrote:

> Following up to Dave
>
>
>>But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope happens.
>
>
> do they? News to me.

It's the alternative to joining the EU.

Dave

Mark Thorson wrote:

> Dave the nice British person wrote:
>
>>But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope happens.
>
>
> Statehood is granted on a politically balanced basis,
> for example Hawaii (Democrat) and Alaska (Republican)
> were admitted at about the same time. The current
> best prospects for states 51 and 52 are admission of
> Puerto Rico (Democrat) and Guam (Republican).
>
> How would we balance admission of the UK? Also,
> note that we probably could only admit England.
> Scotland and Wales would probably use the
> opportunity to declare independence. Beats me
> what Northern Ireland would do.

Good point you make here, but becoming part of the USA has been
mentioned several times in the last disastrous few years of this
government, by some very well respected news paper writers in the UK.

OK wind up time now...

We can fight better better than you, our special services are better
than yours. I'll stop now, cos I can hear a whooshing sound of a
missile incoming :-)

Dave

Dave > wrote:

>Mark Thorson wrote:

>> Statehood is granted on a politically balanced basis,
>> for example Hawaii (Democrat) and Alaska (Republican)
>> were admitted at about the same time. The current
>> best prospects for states 51 and 52 are admission of
>> Puerto Rico (Democrat) and Guam (Republican).
>>
>> How would we balance admission of the UK? Also,
>> note that we probably could only admit England.
>> Scotland and Wales would probably use the
>> opportunity to declare independence. Beats me
>> what Northern Ireland would do.

>Good point you make here, but becoming part of the USA has been
>mentioned several times in the last disastrous few years of this
>government, by some very well respected news paper writers in the UK.

The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
revanch to Mexico.

I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
there'd be much opposition.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> Dave > wrote:
>
>
>>Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>
>>>Statehood is granted on a politically balanced basis,
>>>for example Hawaii (Democrat) and Alaska (Republican)
>>>were admitted at about the same time. The current
>>>best prospects for states 51 and 52 are admission of
>>>Puerto Rico (Democrat) and Guam (Republican).
>>>
>>>How would we balance admission of the UK? Also,
>>>note that we probably could only admit England.
>>>Scotland and Wales would probably use the
>>>opportunity to declare independence. Beats me
>>>what Northern Ireland would do.
>
>
>>Good point you make here, but becoming part of the USA has been
>>mentioned several times in the last disastrous few years of this
>>government, by some very well respected news paper writers in the UK.
>
>
> The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
> a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
> Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
> secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
> revanch to Mexico.
>
> I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
> if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
> there'd be much opposition.

So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
for a few years?

Dave

Dave > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
>> a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
>> Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
>> secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
>> revanch to Mexico.

>> I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
>> if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
>> there'd be much opposition.

>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
>for a few years?

I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
of Europe.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> Dave > wrote:
>
>
>>Steve Pope wrote:
>
>
>>>The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
>>>a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
>>>Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
>>>secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
>>>revanch to Mexico.
>
>
>>>I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
>>>if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
>>>there'd be much opposition.
>
>
>>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
>>for a few years?
>
>
> I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
> NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
> of Europe.

It would be far better than the system we live under now. Brussels
issues a memorandum and before you know it, it is embedded in English law.

Our government are shit scared of holding an election Because they know
they would lose it.

The Irish have voted against Europe and Europe are now pressing for a
yes vote from them. What happened to democracy?
Support the Irish and deny the euphiles the rights to alter Europe
without a vote

Dave

"Dave" > wrote in message
news
> Steve Pope wrote:
>
> > Dave > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Steve Pope wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
> >>>a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
> >>>Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
> >>>secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
> >>>revanch to Mexico.
> >
> >
> >>>I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
> >>>if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
> >>>there'd be much opposition.
> >
> >
> >>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
> >>for a few years?
> >
> >
> > I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
> > NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
> > of Europe.
>
> It would be far better than the system we live under now. Brussels
> issues a memorandum and before you know it, it is embedded in English law.
>
> Our government are shit scared of holding an election Because they know
> they would lose it.
>
> The Irish have voted against Europe and Europe are now pressing for a
> yes vote from them. What happened to democracy?
> Support the Irish and deny the euphiles the rights to alter Europe
> without a vote
>
> Dave

Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is extremely
off-topic, especially europe political discussion.

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:47:56 +0100, Dave wrote:

> Mike ............ wrote:
>
>> Following up to Dave
>>
>>
>>>But what will we become if we join the USA? As most over here hope happens.
>>
>>
>> do they? News to me.
>
> It's the alternative to joining the EU.
>
> Dave

considering the exchange rate (dollars to euros), it might be a good move.

your pal,
blake

Jerry Sauk wrote:

> "Dave" > wrote in message
> news >
>>Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Dave > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Steve Pope wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
>>>>>a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
>>>>>Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
>>>>>secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
>>>>>revanch to Mexico.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
>>>>>if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
>>>>>there'd be much opposition.
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
>>>>for a few years?
>>>
>>>
>>>I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
>>>NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
>>>of Europe.
>>
>>It would be far better than the system we live under now. Brussels
>>issues a memorandum and before you know it, it is embedded in English law.
>>
>>Our government are shit scared of holding an election Because they know
>>they would lose it.
>>
>>The Irish have voted against Europe and Europe are now pressing for a
>>yes vote from them. What happened to democracy?
>>Support the Irish and deny the euphiles the rights to alter Europe
>>without a vote
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is extremely
> off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>
>
Then stop cross posting to us.

Dave

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> Jerry Sauk wrote:
>
>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>>>Steve Pope wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dave > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Steve Pope wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
>>>>>>a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
>>>>>>Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
>>>>>>secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
>>>>>>revanch to Mexico.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
>>>>>>if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
>>>>>>there'd be much opposition.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
>>>>>for a few years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
>>>>NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
>>>>of Europe.
>>>
>>>It would be far better than the system we live under now. Brussels
>>>issues a memorandum and before you know it, it is embedded in English
>>>law.
>>>
>>>Our government are shit scared of holding an election Because they know
>>>they would lose it.
>>>
>>>The Irish have voted against Europe and Europe are now pressing for a
>>>yes vote from them. What happened to democracy?
>>>Support the Irish and deny the euphiles the rights to alter Europe
>>>without a vote
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>
>> Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
>> extremely
>> off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>>
>>
> Then stop cross posting to us.
>
> Dave

Dave, you have never met the Saukkrete.

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> Jerry Sauk wrote:
>
> > "Dave" > wrote in message
> > news > >
> >>Steve Pope wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dave > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Steve Pope wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>The trend is in the opposite direction: last night, there was
> >>>>>a benefit concert here in Berkeley supporting the growing
> >>>>>Hawaiian independence movement. Also, the South wants to
> >>>>>secede again, and many folks want historic Aztlan to
> >>>>>revanch to Mexico.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>I don't think any of these is likely to happen soon, however
> >>>>>if a majority of Hawaiians want to split off I'm not sure
> >>>>>there'd be much opposition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>So, does that allow us to go under your wing while we fight off the EU
> >>>>for a few years?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I see no reason the UK and Republic of Ireland couldn't join
> >>>NAFTA so as to align economically with north America instead
> >>>of Europe.
> >>
> >>It would be far better than the system we live under now. Brussels
> >>issues a memorandum and before you know it, it is embedded in English
law.
> >>
> >>Our government are shit scared of holding an election Because they know
> >>they would lose it.
> >>
> >>The Irish have voted against Europe and Europe are now pressing for a
> >>yes vote from them. What happened to democracy?
> >>Support the Irish and deny the euphiles the rights to alter Europe
> >>without a vote
> >>
> >>Dave
> >
> >
> > Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
extremely
> > off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
> >
> >
> Then stop cross posting to us.
>
> Dave

I didn't start it. And I'm not the one posting off-topic gargabe to the
wrong group.

"M............" > wrote in message
.. .
> Following up to Jerry Sauk
>
> > Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
extremely
> > off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>
> why is european politics more off topic than other politics?
> --
> Mike .......
> Google-groups killfiled
> Remove clothing to email

Because this is an American Newsgroup.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:29:11 -0500, Jerry Sauk wrote:

> Because this is an American Newsgroup.

Very droll. Crossposting to uk.food+drink.misc, durr!
--
Tim C.

"Jerry Sauk" > wrote in message
...
>
> "M............" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Following up to Jerry Sauk
>>
>> > Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
> extremely
>> > off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>>
>> why is european politics more off topic than other politics?
>> --
>> Mike .......
>> Google-groups killfiled
>> Remove clothing to email
>
> Because this is an American Newsgroup.
>
And you're worried that you might learn something?
Graham

"Graham" > wrote in message
news:ftXmk.120032$kx.23516@pd7urf3no...
>
> "Jerry Sauk" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "M............" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> Following up to Jerry Sauk
>>>
>>> > Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
>> extremely
>>> > off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>>>
>>> why is european politics more off topic than other politics?
>>> --
>>> Mike .......
>>> Google-groups killfiled
>>> Remove clothing to email
>>
>> Because this is an American Newsgroup.
>>
> And you're worried that you might learn something?
> Graham
>

LOL!

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:35:58 +0100, M............ wrote:

> Following up to Jerry Sauk
>
>> Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is extremely
>> off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>
> why is european politics more off topic than other politics?

they don't eat that much crappy food in europe?

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:02:03 GMT, Graham wrote:

> "Jerry Sauk" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "M............" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> Following up to Jerry Sauk
>>>
>>> > Please keep politcal discussion out of alt-fast.food, where it is
>> extremely
>>> > off-topic, especially europe political discussion.
>>>
>>> why is european politics more off topic than other politics?
>>> --
>>> Mike .......
>>> Google-groups killfiled
>>> Remove clothing to email
>>
>> Because this is an American Newsgroup.
>>
> And you're worried that you might learn something?
> Graham

i think there's little to fear there.

your pal,
blake