On Sat 02 Aug 2008 02:10:03p, Janet Wilder told us...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> ...I'll try the Smart Balance!
>
> Let me know how you like it, Andy. I've found it's the best tasting of
> its ilk, but taste is such a personal thing....
>
> BTW, I do use unsalted butter in cooking, though sparingly. I keep the
> quarters in the freezer and only defrost the one in use. We keep a stick
> of butter for a month or longer around here.
>
> I have a cholesterol problem that has nothing to do with what I eat. I
> take Zetia but I don't want to take those statins. From my POV, there
> more medical techniques to fix hearts than there are to fix livers. YMMV

Both David and I take Simvasatin, the generic form of Zocor. We have blood
work done every 90 days checking all major organ functions. Both our
internist and cariologist indicated that statins are actually rather safe
as long as their use is closely monitored. David's cholesterol had been
very high for years before he was put on medication. It is now in the
normal range. Mine was not nearly as high, but higher than normal. Now,
with medication, it is in the low-normal range.

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Janet Wilder said...

> I have a cholesterol problem that has nothing to do with what I eat. I
> take Zetia but I don't want to take those statins. From my POV, there
> more medical techniques to fix hearts than there are to fix livers. YMMV


Janet,

I'm in your camp.

And fewer culinary techniques to fix great chicken liver paté!

Best,

Andy

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.247...
> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 02:10:03p, Janet Wilder told us...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>> ...I'll try the Smart Balance!
>>
>> Let me know how you like it, Andy. I've found it's the best tasting of
>> its ilk, but taste is such a personal thing....
>>
>> BTW, I do use unsalted butter in cooking, though sparingly. I keep the
>> quarters in the freezer and only defrost the one in use. We keep a stick
>> of butter for a month or longer around here.
>>
>> I have a cholesterol problem that has nothing to do with what I eat. I
>> take Zetia but I don't want to take those statins. From my POV, there
>> more medical techniques to fix hearts than there are to fix livers. YMMV
>
> Both David and I take Simvasatin, the generic form of Zocor. We have
> blood
> work done every 90 days checking all major organ functions. Both our
> internist and cariologist indicated that statins are actually rather safe
> as long as their use is closely monitored. David's cholesterol had been
> very high for years before he was put on medication. It is now in the
> normal range. Mine was not nearly as high, but higher than normal. Now,
> with medication, it is in the low-normal range.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

According to my internist it was thought statins only arrested any further
damage however long term use has indicated that some people are starting to
show some reversal of the damage. I have not seen any of the studies he has
but it's an interesting prospect. He did say however you'll never go back
to having 100% clean arteries like a newborn.


--
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(AKA Dimitri)

On Sat 02 Aug 2008 04:28:19p, Dimitri told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 5.247...
>> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 02:10:03p, Janet Wilder told us...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I'll try the Smart Balance!
>>>
>>> Let me know how you like it, Andy. I've found it's the best tasting of
>>> its ilk, but taste is such a personal thing....
>>>
>>> BTW, I do use unsalted butter in cooking, though sparingly. I keep the
>>> quarters in the freezer and only defrost the one in use. We keep a
>>> stick of butter for a month or longer around here.
>>>
>>> I have a cholesterol problem that has nothing to do with what I eat. I
>>> take Zetia but I don't want to take those statins. From my POV, there
>>> more medical techniques to fix hearts than there are to fix livers.
>>> YMMV
>>
>> Both David and I take Simvasatin, the generic form of Zocor. We have
>> blood work done every 90 days checking all major organ functions. Both
>> our internist and cariologist indicated that statins are actually
>> rather safe as long as their use is closely monitored. David's
>> cholesterol had been very high for years before he was put on
>> medication. It is now in the normal range. Mine was not nearly as
>> high, but higher than normal. Now, with medication, it is in the
>> low-normal range.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> According to my internist it was thought statins only arrested any
> further damage however long term use has indicated that some people are
> starting to show some reversal of the damage. I have not seen any of
> the studies he has but it's an interesting prospect. He did say however
> you'll never go back to having 100% clean arteries like a newborn.
>
>

Thaqt's very interesting, Dimitri. I hadn't heard that.

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who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
-------------------------------------------

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:59:13 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>I would probably never find out. I don't enjoy any flavor of ice cream
>unless it's frozen as hard as a brick. I want it to be something I have to
>chew, not melt in my mouth. :-) In fact, when ice cream reaches a
>scoopable (is that a word) temperature, I scoop a dish of ice cream for
>myself, then return the bowl to the freezer until it hardens again. Weird,
>huh?

Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
ice cream I like.

But don't blab.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 08:16:42a, Julia Altshuler told us...
>
>> Felice wrote:
>>>
>>> Hot damn! I've had ice cream with heavy cream on top as a dessert in
>>> Ireland, but I don't recall a crust. Gotta work on this cream on
>>> chocolate trick, though.
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering if the full wonderful taste of the chocolate ice cream
>> would come through if it starts out cold enough to freeze cream. It
>> seems like it would have to melt in one's mouth, by which time one's
>> taste buds would be frozen.
>
> I would probably never find out. I don't enjoy any flavor of ice cream
> unless it's frozen as hard as a brick. I want it to be something I have to

You go.

> chew, not melt in my mouth. :-) In fact, when ice cream reaches a

Aye!

> scoopable (is that a word) temperature, I scoop a dish of ice cream for
> myself, then return the bowl to the freezer until it hardens again.
> Weird, huh?

Not at all! If I wanted flavored milk, I wouln't be buying ICE cream.


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On Sat 02 Aug 2008 05:56:42p, Terry Pulliam Burd told us...

> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:59:13 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > fired up random neurons and synapses to
> opine:
>
>>I would probably never find out. I don't enjoy any flavor of ice cream
>>unless it's frozen as hard as a brick. I want it to be something I have
>>to chew, not melt in my mouth. :-) In fact, when ice cream reaches a
>>scoopable (is that a word) temperature, I scoop a dish of ice cream for
>>myself, then return the bowl to the freezer until it hardens again.
>>Weird, huh?
>
> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
> ice cream I like.
>
> But don't blab.

I swear I tell! Truth be told, I do like frozen custard, but I don't
consider it in the same category as scooped ice cream. I will occasionally
get a Dairy Queen. Even better in our area, though, is an ancient frozen
custard stand that makes the "real stuff". Of course, they always have
vanilla and chocolate, but they have an ever changing list of flavors at
any given time. They seem to be partial to fresh fruit flavors,
particularly berries, but I've also seen guava, peach, mango, and papaya.
This is seriously good stuff.

The other day I was making a many stop trip to run errands and was in and
out of the heat countless times. I went through the Dairy Queen drive thru
and got a large chocolate malt.

God, I hope nobody reads this! We'll both be in big doodoo.

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who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
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On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:03:10p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 08:16:42a, Julia Altshuler told us...
>>
>>> Felice wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hot damn! I've had ice cream with heavy cream on top as a dessert in
>>>> Ireland, but I don't recall a crust. Gotta work on this cream on
>>>> chocolate trick, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if the full wonderful taste of the chocolate ice cream
>>> would come through if it starts out cold enough to freeze cream. It
>>> seems like it would have to melt in one's mouth, by which time one's
>>> taste buds would be frozen.
>>
>> I would probably never find out. I don't enjoy any flavor of ice cream
>> unless it's frozen as hard as a brick. I want it to be something I
>> have to
>
> You go.
>
>> chew, not melt in my mouth. :-) In fact, when ice cream reaches a
>
> Aye!
>
>> scoopable (is that a word) temperature, I scoop a dish of ice cream for
>> myself, then return the bowl to the freezer until it hardens again.
>> Weird, huh?
>
> Not at all! If I wanted flavored milk, I wouln't be buying ICE cream.
>
>

You betcha!

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who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
-------------------------------------------

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
> ice cream I like.

Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?


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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:35:02 GMT, (Phred)
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

<snip>

>The politically powerful dairy industry back in the Good Old Days
>insisted that our "peanut butter" be renamed to remove the "butter"
>(hence "peanut paste"). I don't know if they were also the reason
>margarine formulation changed dramatically some decades ago, or
>whether it was just that margarine manufacturers saw an opportunity in
>providing a more spreadable product than butter at the time. Whatever
>the reason, modern margarine here in Oz is now a very poor relative of
>butter when it comes to putting some grease on bread or whatever!
>To put it mildly, it's now inedible YUK! (Well, IMO anyway. :-)
>[Also, the old table/cooking margarine distinction has long gone.]
>
>I might add that an industrial chemist I know who works for one of the
>major manufacturers once told me that margarine is made from whatever
>oil is cheapest at the time. (I suspect most is made from palm oil
>here.) Also, economics here in Oz has meant quite a reduction in
>pre-manufacture quality control; though I'm not sure whether this is
>also reflected in the final product -- maybe they just dump more!

IIRC, roughly pre-1960s, most US dairy states' dairy lobbies
successfully kept the product the margarine industry made a sickly
yellow so as not to compete [successfully] with butter.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>> ice cream I like.
>
> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>
>

Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!


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who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
-------------------------------------------

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:44:58 -0400, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> When I was at UCLA a while back the head of cardiology told me the sad
>>> fact is without an angiogram there is simply no way to tell how much
>>> blockage is present. If you look at the case of Tim Russert its a
>>> classic
>>> example of a "Widow Maker"
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow_maker
>>>
>>> No symptoms then by the time you hit the floor you're gone.
>>>
>>> I also believe one can do everything to put the odds in your favor from
>>> the French Paradox to the Mediterranean diet but I think heredity plays
>>> a
>>> much stronger role than we can imagine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We don't get out of this craphouse alive anyway.
>>
>
> damn good thing, too. would you want to hang around the craphouse forver?
>
>

Sometimes I do. I just can't stand the idea of not knowing how things turn
out.

On 2008-08-03, cybercat > wrote:

> Sometimes I do. I just can't stand the idea of not knowing how things turn
> out.

It's like the movie, Titanic. In the end, the boat sinks.

nb

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>>> ice cream I like.
>>
>> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>
> Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!

Shit. Sorry.


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On Sat 02 Aug 2008 08:01:55p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>
>>> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>>>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>>>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>>>> ice cream I like.
>>>
>>> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>>
>> Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!
>
> Shit. Sorry.
>
>

You're forgiven. Just don't repeat it, okay?

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Don't start an argument with somebody
who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
-------------------------------------------

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 06:41:30 -0700, "Dimitri" >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>The only reason we had OLEO was due to the rationing of butter in WWII - I
>remember a special electric mixer designed to whip the coloring packet into
>the white oleo.

Geez, D, you really *are* older than dirt <g>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...who stil hasn't recovered from the last
b'day [shudder]
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 08:01:55p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>>
>>>> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>>>>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>>>>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>>>>> ice cream I like.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>>>
>>> Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!
>>
>> Shit. Sorry.
>
> You're forgiven. Just don't repeat it, okay?

<peers out from behind a large sea bass>


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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:25:58 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?

He's had one for a while. From recent comments, I thought they'd
broken up (at the very least, their relationship had chilled).... but
it seems all is well in Blakesworld after all.




--
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Mae West

cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but I'm
> >> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and stops
> >> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have to
> >> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and eat
> >> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
> >>
> >>
> >> --Lia
> >
> > i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so much
> > that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
> >
> > (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg, i'm
> > stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
> > saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
> > always
> > seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
something.)
> >
>
> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?


Sure, he's heterosexual ain't he...???

Now if *I* said I had a girlfriend I'd *expect* you to be all agog...


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:25:05 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:47:29 -0500, Sky wrote:
>>
>>> amandaF wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 11:49 am, sf wrote:
>>>>> Who uses this? Hubby has been a rabid butter fan all of his life, but
>>>>> now he's cutting fat out of his diet, so he bought some I Can't
>>>>> Believe it's not Butter. It has no trans fat, but it has partially
>>>>> hydrogenated soybean oil. I'd done my best to stay away from
>>>>> hydrogenated oils of every sort (no Crisco for me). So, now I'm in a
>>>>> quandary. Is it ok or not?
>>>>>
>>>>> I told him we still need to buy butter because I'm not cooking with
>>>>> that stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I think your hubby is in denial that he needs to reduce is butter in
>>>> take and switching to something else to tell himself that he is not
>>>> using too much butter. well, he should know that Margarine is as bad
>>>> for the heart as butter + plus other harm that butter doesn't have
>>>> since butter is from only real food source.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, butter is more "natural" than magerine can ever claim to be. IOW,
>>> the 'natural' part is more easily processed by the body than any
>>> margerine or fake butter ever can be. At least, that's my take on this
>>> issue of butter substitution.
>>>
>>> Sky, who never buys margerine
>>
>> i wouldn't disagree with using butter, but just because a food is 'real'
>> or
>> 'natural' doesn't mean it's harmless.
>>
>
>True. Arsenic is natural. Ricin is natural.
>
Arsenic is food?


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Mae West

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:57:14 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>In the Phoenix area, two supermarket chains and WalMart carry it. Only
>WalMart has both the original and the flaxseed oil versions. There always
>seems to be plenty to be had.

So you forage in the evil empire? STOP supporting WalMart! (Please)


--
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Mae West

sf wrote:

: Who uses this? Hubby has been a rabid butter fan all of his life, but
: now he's cutting fat out of his diet, so he bought some I Can't
: Believe it's not Butter. It has no trans fat, but it has partially
: hydrogenated soybean oil. I'd done my best to stay away from
: hydrogenated oils of every sort (no Crisco for me). So, now I'm in a
: quandary. Is it ok or not?


I don't understand. This is the American Heritage Dictionary
definition of 'trans fatty acid' [a trans fat is defined as a trans
fatty acid]. The definition agrees with everything I've read about
these:

"trans fatty acid
n.

Thelma Roslyn Lubkin said...

> sf wrote:
>
>: Who uses this? Hubby has been a rabid butter fan all of his life, but
>: now he's cutting fat out of his diet, so he bought some I Can't
>: Believe it's not Butter. It has no trans fat, but it has partially
>: hydrogenated soybean oil. I'd done my best to stay away from
>: hydrogenated oils of every sort (no Crisco for me). So, now I'm in a
>: quandary. Is it ok or not?
>
>
> I don't understand. This is the American Heritage Dictionary
> definition of 'trans fatty acid' [a trans fat is defined as a trans
> fatty acid]. The definition agrees with everything I've read about
> these:
>
> "trans fatty acid
> n.
> An unsaturated fatty acid produced by the partial hydrogenation of
> vegetable oils and present in hardened vegetable oils, most
> margarines, commercial baked foods, and many fried foods. An excess of
> these fats in the diet is thought to raise the cholesterol level in
> the bloodstream."
>
> So how is 'partially hydrogenated soy bean oil' not a a trans fat?
>
> --thelma


thelma,

It really IS trans fat but here in the Good Ol' U.S.A. our food overseer,
the FDA allows that if a "serving size" contains less than 0.5g of trans
fat, then it's perfectly OK to declare it on the nutrition label as 0g
trans fat.

Processed food manufacturers are actually able to hide it away. Mind you,
have double or more than the "serving size" and you're really putting on
the trans fats.

You're correct. If "hydrogenated" is anywhere in ingredients list, it's
trans fat.

I did notice recently that Canada does account for every single 0.1g of
trans fat on their nutrition labels. Lucky BUMS!!!

The FDA is a long standing joke, here in America.

Best,

Andy

Thelma Roslyn Lubkin > wrote in news:g74aoi$sit$1
@uwm.edu:

> So how is 'partially hydrogenated soy bean oil' not a a trans fat?
>

It is similar to just a little pregnant

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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:20:13 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:44:58 -0400, cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> When I was at UCLA a while back the head of cardiology told me the sad
>>>> fact is without an angiogram there is simply no way to tell how much
>>>> blockage is present. If you look at the case of Tim Russert its a
>>>> classic
>>>> example of a "Widow Maker"
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow_maker
>>>>
>>>> No symptoms then by the time you hit the floor you're gone.
>>>>
>>>> I also believe one can do everything to put the odds in your favor from
>>>> the French Paradox to the Mediterranean diet but I think heredity plays
>>>> a
>>>> much stronger role than we can imagine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> We don't get out of this craphouse alive anyway.
>>>
>>
>> damn good thing, too. would you want to hang around the craphouse forver?
>>
>>
>
> Sometimes I do. I just can't stand the idea of not knowing how things turn
> out.

i did hear about some guy in france around the time of the revolution who
delayed his suicide because he wanted to see how the political situation
turned out.

your pal,
marie

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:08:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>>> ice cream I like.
>>
>> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>>
>>
>
> Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!

usenet is full of busybodies.

your pal,
blake

On Sun 03 Aug 2008 08:16:24a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:08:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sat 02 Aug 2008 06:22:00p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>
>>> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Psssssttt! Wayne! <looking furtively around for eavesdroppers> Don't
>>>> tell anybody, but I like Dairy Queen soft serv. I have one about once
>>>> every six months (medium, no toppings). It's about the only commercial
>>>> ice cream I like.
>>>
>>> Hey, when did soft serve become real ice cream?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hey, you weren't supposed to hear that!
>
> usenet is full of busybodies.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

OMG!, really?

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 08(VIII)/02(II)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Don't start an argument with somebody
who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:25:58 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but I'm
>>> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and stops
>>> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have to
>>> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and eat
>>> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
>>>
>>>
>>> --Lia
>>
>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so much
>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
>>
>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg, i'm
>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
>> always
>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or something.)
>>
>
> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>
> 8 o

i guess it depends on you you talk to, including her.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:54:23 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but I'm
>>>> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and stops
>>>> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have to
>>>> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and eat
>>>> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Lia
>>>
>>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so much
>>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
>>>
>>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg, i'm
>>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
>>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
>>> always
>>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
> something.)
>>>
>>
>> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>
>
> Sure, he's heterosexual ain't he...???
>
> Now if *I* said I had a girlfriend I'd *expect* you to be all agog...

i'd be all agog if you said you had a boyfriend. or a friend, period.

blake

Thelma Roslyn Lubkin > wrote:

>So how is 'partially hydrogenated soy bean oil' not a a trans fat?

Any partially hydrogenated oil contains trans fats. It
may not contain enough to list on a food label. If there
is less than 0.5 grams trans fats in a serving of product,
the label typically says "0 grams trans fats" (not the
same as "zero trans fats".

Steve

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:54:23 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but
I'm
> >>>> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and stops
> >>>> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have to
> >>>> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and
eat
> >>>> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --Lia
> >>>
> >>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so
much
> >>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
> >>>
> >>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg,
i'm
> >>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
> >>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
> >>> always
> >>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
> > something.)
> >>>
> >>
> >> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
> >
> >
> > Sure, he's heterosexual ain't he...???
> >
> > Now if *I* said I had a girlfriend I'd *expect* you to be all agog...
>
> i'd be all agog if you said you had a boyfriend. or a friend, period.
>


"Gaia is crying...!!!"

<chuckle>

Seriously, I'm just as cuddly and loveable in real life as I am here on the
intrawebs...why, I've even won awards...!!!

====>>> No, SERIOUSLY...

--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:54:23 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> >> cybercat wrote:
> >>
> >>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but
I'm
> >>>>> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and
stops
> >>>>> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have
to
> >>>>> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and
eat
> >>>>> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Lia
> >>>>
> >>>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so
much
> >>>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg,
i'm
> >>>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
> >>>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
> >>>> always
> >>>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
> >> something.)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sure, he's heterosexual ain't he...???
> >>
> >> Now if *I* said I had a girlfriend I'd *expect* you to be all agog...
> >
> > i'd be all agog if you said you had a boyfriend. or a friend, period.
> >
>
> Sure doesn't seem to be what he's shooting for.


We see that even though it's rather early in the day the cybercat is already
at the "ass end" of the threads to which she is posting...

:-P

--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

<sf> wrote

> So you forage in the evil empire? STOP supporting WalMart! (Please)
>

It's really easy when they build a Target right across the street from your
house.

your right i love butter girl

"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 06:41:30 -0700, "Dimitri" >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>The only reason we had OLEO was due to the rationing of butter in WWII - I
>>remember a special electric mixer designed to whip the coloring packet
>>into
>>the white oleo.
>
> Geez, D, you really *are* older than dirt <g>
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...who stil hasn't recovered from the last
> b'day [shudder]


Nope just a very good memory.

Now what was my name?


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:16:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>God, I hope nobody reads this! We'll both be in big doodoo.

Your secret is safe with me (miming zipping my lip and throwing away
the key).

And while we're on the subject of malteds, while we were at the Shady
Dell in Bisbee AZ a couple of weeks ago, we stopped for a wee bite of
lunch at Dot's Diner which is on the premises. This is a diner that
seats about 8 folks on stools at the counter - little bitty place. The
diner originally came from LA and is a gen-u-wine 50s diner. Along
with the perfect hamburger I ordered for lunch, it would have been a
crime against nature to order anything other than a chocolate malted.
They even had those funny blenders that you position the metal carafe
under - the blender bit is like a long metal stalk that hangs off the
motor housing. What a treat to watch the counterman plop in *real* ice
cream, plop in *real* milk and *real* chocolate syrup along with the
*real* malted, uh, malt. Yum!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sun 03 Aug 2008 06:28:58p, Terry Pulliam Burd told us...

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:16:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > fired up random neurons and synapses to
> opine:
>
>>God, I hope nobody reads this! We'll both be in big doodoo.
>
> Your secret is safe with me (miming zipping my lip and throwing away
> the key).
>
> And while we're on the subject of malteds, while we were at the Shady
> Dell in Bisbee AZ a couple of weeks ago, we stopped for a wee bite of
> lunch at Dot's Diner which is on the premises. This is a diner that
> seats about 8 folks on stools at the counter - little bitty place. The
> diner originally came from LA and is a gen-u-wine 50s diner. Along
> with the perfect hamburger I ordered for lunch, it would have been a
> crime against nature to order anything other than a chocolate malted.
> They even had those funny blenders that you position the metal carafe
> under - the blender bit is like a long metal stalk that hangs off the
> motor housing. What a treat to watch the counterman plop in *real* ice
> cream, plop in *real* milk and *real* chocolate syrup along with the
> *real* malted, uh, malt. Yum!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

I will definitely have to remember this place the next time we venture down
to Bisbee. That would be a *must* stop for lunch!

Here in Phoenix there is an old drugstore dating back to the 1930s, that no
longer serves as a pharmacy, but still retains the original soda fountain
with all its equipment where one can order malts, sundaes, sandwiches,
burgers, etc. The store part has been turned over to selling collectibles,
memorabilia, and the like. We go there for lunch from work on occasion.

Speaking of the malt mixer, I bought a vintage one, made in the 1940s, from
a now defunct drugstore. I have had it for a long time and it sits on my
kitchen counter. This is the single model, although they were also models
made with 3 and 5 mixer heads. The one in the picture isn't mine, but is
the exact same model. You certainly can make a gen-u-wine malt in it.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=juzseu&s=4

Hamilton Beach made most of these, although there were several other less
known brands.

Thanks for the memory!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 08(VIII)/02(II)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Don't start an argument with somebody
who has a microphone when you don't;
they'll make you look like chopped
liver. --Harlan Ellison, on hecklers
-------------------------------------------

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:42:12 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:54:23 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so much
>>>>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg, i'm
>>>>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
>>>>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
>>>>> always
>>>>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
>>> something.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, he's heterosexual ain't he...???
>>>
>>> Now if *I* said I had a girlfriend I'd *expect* you to be all agog...
>>
>> i'd be all agog if you said you had a boyfriend. or a friend, period.
>>
>
> Sure doesn't seem to be what he's shooting for.

i think he thinks he's some kind of 'bad boy.'

your pal,
blake
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:40:55 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> <sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:25:58 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>>
>> He's had one for a while. From recent comments, I thought they'd
>> broken up (at the very least, their relationship had chilled).... but
>> it seems all is well in Blakesworld after all.
>>
> What? I cannot hear you for the wail of my broken heart.

she's open to negotiation.

your pal,
blake
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:41:34 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:25:58 -0400, cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:01:13 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (I'll probably get rotten food thrown at me for admiting this, but I'm
>>>>> one of those people who eats whatever she wants, gets full, and stops
>>>>> eating. It happens naturally, and I don't gain weight. I do have to
>>>>> convince myself to exercise and to take the trouble to prepare and eat
>>>>> vegetables, but after I do that, it's really no trouble.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Lia
>>>>
>>>> i'm like that i think. but i get done eating pretty soon. not so much
>>>> that i feel full really, but i just don't want anymore.
>>>>
>>>> (that's not really clear is it? what i mean is, i never say, 'omg, i'm
>>>> stuffed' or 'jesus, i ate too much.' or like my girlfriend is always
>>>> saying, 'i'll never eat again,' although she always has. waitresses
>>>> always
>>>> seem fearful i will throw the uneaten portion in their face or
>>>> something.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>>>
>>> 8 o
>>
>> i guess it depends on you you talk to, including her.
>>
> *sniff*
>
>
>
> really?

oddly enough, yes. i am smart enough not to press the issue.

your pal,
blake
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