On Tue 05 Aug 2008 05:58:17p, GRANNYllongoria0 told us...

> I was wondering about a diet I could stand to lose about 20 lbs. I
> recently lost my dog and had gained weight. I tried looking up some
> good diet and recipe pages to lose it, along with excersise. I am not
> good at searches though. Any help on a good site that is free and
> shows daily menus to help lose a little weight?

Go to Weight Watchers. It is healthy and you *will* lose weight if you
follow their system. If you don't want to go to meetings, you can join
online.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 05 Aug 2008 05:58:17p, GRANNYllongoria0 told us...
>
>
>>I was wondering about a diet I could stand to lose about 20 lbs. I
>>recently lost my dog and had gained weight. I tried looking up some
>>good diet and recipe pages to lose it, along with excersise. I am not
>>good at searches though. Any help on a good site that is free and
>>shows daily menus to help lose a little weight?
>
>
> Go to Weight Watchers. It is healthy and you *will* lose weight if you
> follow their system. If you don't want to go to meetings, you can join
> online.


Before I got to your answer, I was thinking, I always try to stay out of
health and diet discussions, but I'll make an exception in this case and
recommend Weight Watchers.


GRANNY, Try Weight Watchers. Also, you don't say how long it took you
to gain the 20 pounds or if there's any other explanation besides less
exercise from no longer walking your dog. If the weight gain is sudden,
it might be worthwhile to check with your doctor. If you're female and
the appropriate age, peri-menopause can be an explanation. There are
other medical explanations too-- which is the beauty of Weight Watchers.
It's a good sensible diet that won't hurt you.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler > wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> Go to Weight Watchers. It is healthy and you *will* lose weight if you
>> follow their system. If you don't want to go to meetings, you can join
>> online.

>Before I got to your answer, I was thinking, I always try to stay out of
>health and diet discussions, but I'll make an exception in this case and
>recommend Weight Watchers.

>GRANNY, Try Weight Watchers. Also, you don't say how long it took you
>to gain the 20 pounds or if there's any other explanation besides less
>exercise from no longer walking your dog. If the weight gain is sudden,
>it might be worthwhile to check with your doctor. If you're female and
>the appropriate age, peri-menopause can be an explanation. There are
>other medical explanations too-- which is the beauty of Weight Watchers.
> It's a good sensible diet that won't hurt you.

I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
Hah, I say.

Steve

On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...

> Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>> Go to Weight Watchers. It is healthy and you *will* lose weight if you
>>> follow their system. If you don't want to go to meetings, you can join
>>> online.
>
>>Before I got to your answer, I was thinking, I always try to stay out of
>>health and diet discussions, but I'll make an exception in this case and
>>recommend Weight Watchers.
>
>>GRANNY, Try Weight Watchers. Also, you don't say how long it took you
>>to gain the 20 pounds or if there's any other explanation besides less
>>exercise from no longer walking your dog. If the weight gain is sudden,
>>it might be worthwhile to check with your doctor. If you're female and
>>the appropriate age, peri-menopause can be an explanation. There are
>>other medical explanations too-- which is the beauty of Weight Watchers.
>> It's a good sensible diet that won't hurt you.
>
> I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
> Hah, I say.
>
> Steve
>

Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food intake,
a weight loss program, whatever. We all "follow a diet", whether the
result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. Yes, WW is a diet, but
it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier for
most people.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
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Government is non-consensual S&M with
the Second Amendment as the only safeword.
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Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...

>> I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
>> Hah, I say.

>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food intake,
>a weight loss program, whatever. We all "follow a diet", whether the
>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. Yes, WW is a diet, but
>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier for
>most people.

No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
of it.

Steve

On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...
>
>>> I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
>>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
>>> Hah, I say.
>
>>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food
intake,
>>a weight loss program, whatever. We all "follow a diet", whether the
>>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. Yes, WW is a diet, but
>>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier
for
>>most people.
>
> No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
> take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
> of it.
>
> Steve
>

No disagreement here, either, Steve. I don't care for their TV ads either.
What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
failure. WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
greater success. Their program is well defined in their literature and
their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
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Cats must supervise the human when
s/he is working at the kitchen counter.
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:24:18 -0700 (PDT), GRANNYllongoria0
> wrote:

>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
>live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
>died.

Didn't Wayne say you can join (and participate) online?
http://www.weigh****chers.com/plan/www/online_01.aspx


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

GRANNYllongoria0 wrote:

> I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
> live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
> old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
> died.

As mentioned a few times, you can do Weight Watchers online. If you are
already familiar with WW, you can purchase current materials on e-bay
for a fraction of the cost of attending all the meetings. But, that
takes a lot of self-discipline and your posts show that might be lacking
at the moment.

By reading your posts I can tell you are seriously depressed over your
beloved pet. Have you thought about joining a group for depression such
as alt.support.depression? Lots of good people there dealing with a lot
of the same things you are going through. I would also consider seeking
professional help. Four months and 21 lbs. later tells me that you need
to see someone, IMHO.

Have you thought about another dog? Maybe one you could adopt from a
shelter or rescue group? Walking and exercising a new companion would do
wonders for your mental health, the weight would drop, and you would
have some purpose again.

--Lin

GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:

>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
>live and the food to costly.

Just one bit of information, WW does not require (or even
is it typical for) participants to buy the Weight Watchers food
products. You may be thinking of Jenny Craig.

>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
>died.

This may seem from out of left field, but have you considered
grief counseling? Losing a pet is a major shock.

In any case, best of luck getting past this.

Steve

On Tue 05 Aug 2008 10:02:38p, Steve Pope told us...

> GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
>
>>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
>>live and the food to costly.
>
> Just one bit of information, WW does not require (or even
> is it typical for) participants to buy the Weight Watchers food
> products. You may be thinking of Jenny Craig.

Correct. You eat regular foods. The plan teaches you how to calculate how
much food you can eat, based on your present weight, and using a very
simple formula that balances fat, fiber, and carbohydrates. It's not any
more expensive than food you already eat.

>>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>>old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
>>died.
>
> This may seem from out of left field, but have you considered
> grief counseling? Losing a pet is a major shock.

Absolutely a good idea. There are also a couple of newsgroups devoted to
the loss of one's pets.

>
> In any case, best of luck getting past this.
>
> Steve
>



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Cats must fart in front of mom's
friends. Nobody ever believes it is
the cat.
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On Aug 5, 11:24*pm, GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
> On Aug 5, 9:48*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > >>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > >>> I tend to agree. *Especially with the part about it being a diet....
> > >>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
> > >>> Hah, I say.
>
> > >>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food
> > intake,
> > >>a weight loss program, whatever. *We all "follow a diet", whether the
> > >>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. *Yes, WW is a diet, but
> > >>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier
> > for
> > >>most people.
>
> > > No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
> > > take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
> > > of it.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > No disagreement here, either, Steve. *I don't care for their TV ads either. *
> > What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
> > most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
> > failure. *WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
> > dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
> > greater success. *Their program is well defined in their literature and
> > their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.
>
> > --
> > * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
> > -------------------------------------------
> > * * *Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
> > -------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------------------
> > * * Cats must supervise the human when * *
> > * s/he is working at the kitchen counter. *
> > -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I couldnt join weight watchers any *way. *it is to far from where I
> live and the food to costly. *I gained 21 since April. *I am 43 years
> old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
> died.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just cut down on the amount of food you eat and try to eliminate
snacks altogether. If you think you are hungry and want to snack then
PAUSE and ask yourself why. DELAY and switch your attention to
something else. After a few weeks your weight will begin to drop and
slowly you will notice that you have quite a bit of easy self
control. In other words stop thinking about eating and start thinking
about not eating.

AlexM

"GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
...
>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
li>ve and the food to costly.

Weight Watchers does not sell food.

>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
ol>d.

Wow, that' s pretty young for a granny.

>I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
di>ed.

Well, take your new dog out for some very long walks.

On Aug 5, 9:24 pm, GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
> On Aug 5, 9:48 pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > >>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > >>> I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
> > >>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
> > >>> Hah, I say.
>
> > >>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food
> > intake,
> > >>a weight loss program, whatever. We all "follow a diet", whether the
> > >>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. Yes, WW is a diet, but
> > >>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier
> > for
> > >>most people.
>
> > > No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
> > > take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
> > > of it.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > No disagreement here, either, Steve. I don't care for their TV ads either.
> > What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
> > most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
> > failure. WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
> > dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
> > greater success. Their program is well defined in their literature and
> > their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.
>
> > --
> > Wayne Boatwright
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
> > -------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Cats must supervise the human when
> > s/he is working at the kitchen counter.
> > -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
> live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
> old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
> died.

What about making a list of items you like in the four food groups and
utilize that info to make/at balanced meals (no desert in every meal).
Also keep in mind that despite the recommendation by so called
experts, eating too many fruits will give you too much sugar which
will turn into Carb in the body.

I'd say that for the purpose of losing weight, concentrate on relying
on high protein intake and some carbohydrate primarily without
avoiding fruits altogether. But fruits like mango should be avoided
because despite vitamin C, it's will give you too much calorie. also,
instead of relying on getting protein from meals, may be try a protein
shake using whey powder. Avoid using juice in making it. If you need
some flavor, may be use a bit of yogurt? Avoid butter., margarine,
hydrogenated vegetable oils (that includes snack made with it) . And
of course, slightly smaller portion and also exercise.

The following is some info on food groups though I personally goes
with terms like Carbohydrate (bread, pasta, noodle, rice), Protein
(meat, fish, lentils, chickpeas), Sugar, and Vitamins and Minerals;
You will still get some vitamins and minerals from other food groups
but it just refers to veges and fruits. I'd say avoid sugar as much as
you can. I won't strictly follow the guideline of the Food Pyramid
just because that would be too much food to eat.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Four-F...oups&id=160000


I'd say that instead of thinking about a long list of food you can
make and making them by adjusting use of oil and butter in them, .
just make a few healthy dishes that would serve the purpose and eat
them in the amount slightly less than you have been eating. Drink a
lot of water too.

Hope that helps a little..

Lin wrote:
>
> Have you thought about another dog? Maybe one you could adopt from a
> shelter or rescue group? Walking and exercising a new companion would do
> wonders for your mental health, the weight would drop, and you would
> have some purpose again.


GRANNY posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior that she (he?) he has gotten
another dog.


GRANNY, diets can do miraculous things as far health and weight loss,
but there's no food or regimen that can heal life's blows to the human
heart. You need a dog for that. I hope you're feeling better soon.


--Lia

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.250...
> On Tue 05 Aug 2008 05:58:17p, GRANNYllongoria0 told us...
>
>> I was wondering about a diet I could stand to lose about 20 lbs. I
>> recently lost my dog and had gained weight. I tried looking up some
>> good diet and recipe pages to lose it, along with excersise. I am not
>> good at searches though. Any help on a good site that is free and
>> shows daily menus to help lose a little weight?
>
> Go to Weight Watchers. It is healthy and you *will* lose weight if you
> follow their system. If you don't want to go to meetings, you can join
> online.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Excellent suggestion.

WW after all is said and done does work and will in the process teach about
food.

One little suggestion for the poster - before starting ANY diet consult your
primary physician to make sure you have no special dietary needs and or
restrictions. In addition another dog and some "walking the dog" may be in
order once again.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:02:26 -0700, Lin >
wrote:

>Have you thought about another dog? Maybe one you could adopt from a
>shelter or rescue group? Walking and exercising a new companion would do
>wonders for your mental health, the weight would drop, and you would
>have some purpose again.

Maybe a shelter near her needs volunteers of some kind. Volunteering
would be a great way to find the perfect replacement pet.

FYI to "granny": My local shelter needs people to foster kittens too
young to adopt out. They are beyond the bottle stage, but still tiny.
The shelter supplies food and litter if you need it. Yours may have a
similar program.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Aug 5, 11:24*pm, GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
> On Aug 5, 9:48*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > >>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > >>> I tend to agree. *Especially with the part about it being a diet....
> > >>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
> > >>> Hah, I say.
>
> > >>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food
> > intake,
> > >>a weight loss program, whatever. *We all "follow a diet", whether the
> > >>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. *Yes, WW is a diet, but
> > >>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier
> > for
> > >>most people.
>
> > > No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
> > > take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
> > > of it.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > No disagreement here, either, Steve. *I don't care for their TV ads either. *
> > What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
> > most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
> > failure. *WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
> > dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
> > greater success. *Their program is well defined in their literature and
> > their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.
>
> > --
> > * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
> > -------------------------------------------
> > * * *Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
> > -------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------------------
> > * * Cats must supervise the human when * *
> > * s/he is working at the kitchen counter. *
> > -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I couldnt join weight watchers any *way. *it is to far from where I
> live and the food to costly. *I gained 21 since April. *I am 43 years
> old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
> died.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's not NutriSystem - It's WW - if you make your recommended weight
loss at the first check in, I think you get your membership fee
back...or something like that. If you lose weight and keep it off for
a period of time, you can be a lifetime member for free. It hardly
costs anything.

My SIL uses "mydiet.com," which I think costs $9/month. She is around
55 or so and it has been very successful for her.

N.

"GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 5, 9:48 pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...

<snip>

> No disagreement here, either, Steve. I don't care for their TV ads either.
> What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
> most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
> failure. WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
> dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
> greater success. Their program is well defined in their literature and
> their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> -------------------------------------------
> Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
> -------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
> Cats must supervise the human when
> s/he is working at the kitchen counter.
> -------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
died.

There are several points to conceder;

1. There is no need to purchase their frozen food in the stores you can
cook all you need.
2. Their website and several others such as Dotti's http://www.dwlz.com/
are a wealth of information.
3. Find any used book store or Friend of Library sale and you'll find a
myriad of their cookbooks for a song. There are a ton of hints and tricks
which will be in your repertoire forever.
4. Although joining and going to meetings is a great reinforcement it is
not an absolute necessity.


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote in

oups.com:

> I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from
> where I live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since
> April. I am 43 years old. I dont drink alcohol or do
> drugs, just been eating since my dog died.

you could join online. the food on WW is what one would
normally eat anyway, there is no "special meals to buy" crap.
however, you can lose weight without WW by watching what you
eat (cut out soda & junk food) & how much you eat (portion
your food), and increasing your exercise. perhaps a visit to
the local animal shelter to find a new walking partner would
be useful. if you aren't ready for a new dog yet, shelters
always need volunteers for walking & playing with their
animals.
at 43, you could be starting peri-menopause, which makes it
easier to gain weight & harder to lose it again. or, you could
just be eating because you miss your dog, in which case the
shelter idea, or a new hobby, to keep your hands busy & away
from snacks should help.


lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

"dejablues" > wrote in message
...
>
> "GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
> li>ve and the food to costly.
>
> Weight Watchers does not sell food.
>
>>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
> ol>d.
>
> Wow, that' s pretty young for a granny.


I'm a 41 year old Grandpa!

40's the new 60!


TFM®

"TFM®" > wrote in message
om...
>
>
> "dejablues" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
>> li>ve and the food to costly.
>>
>> Weight Watchers does not sell food.
>>
>>>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>> ol>d.
>>
>> Wow, that' s pretty young for a granny.
>
>
> I'm a 41 year old Grandpa!
>
> 40's the new 60!
>
>
> TFM®

I'm a late starter ... I'm 40 and happy I finally found a good preschool lol

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:12:43 -0400, TFM® wrote:

> "dejablues" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
>> li>ve and the food to costly.
>>
>> Weight Watchers does not sell food.
>>
>>>I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>> ol>d.
>>
>> Wow, that' s pretty young for a granny.
>
>
> I'm a 41 year old Grandpa!
>
> 40's the new 60!
>
>
> TFM®

dear god, i hope not. that makes me seventy-some.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:12:43 -0400, TFM® wrote:
>
>> "dejablues" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "GRANNYllongoria0" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where
>>>> I li>ve and the food to costly.
>>>
>>> Weight Watchers does not sell food.
>>>
>>>> I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
>>> ol>d.
>>>
>>> Wow, that' s pretty young for a granny.
>>
>>
>> I'm a 41 year old Grandpa!
>>
>> 40's the new 60!
>>
>>
>> TFM®
>
> dear god, i hope not. that makes me seventy-some.
>
> your pal,
> blake

LOL. I'm a 40 year old grandma, and I've never had a child. (Okay,
step-grandma.) <g>

kili

On Aug 6, 9:07 am, GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
> On Aug 6, 1:51 am, amandaF > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 5, 9:24 pm, GRANNYllongoria0 > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 5, 9:48 pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:41:14p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > > > > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > > > >>On Tue 05 Aug 2008 07:23:05p, Steve Pope told us...
>
> > > > >>> I tend to agree. Especially with the part about it being a diet...
> > > > >>> if you believed their TV ads, Weight Watchers is "not a diet!!!".
> > > > >>> Hah, I say.
>
> > > > >>Call it what you will, a diet, a method of calculating proper food
> > > > intake,
> > > > >>a weight loss program, whatever. We all "follow a diet", whether the
> > > > >>result is maintaining, gaining, or losing weight. Yes, WW is a diet, but
> > > > >>it's devised in such a way that it does help make losing weight easier
> > > > for
> > > > >>most people.
>
> > > > > No disagreement, other than with their TV ads, which seem to
> > > > > take the "dieting doesn't work" meme and make lemonade out
> > > > > of it.
>
> > > > > Steve
>
> > > > No disagreement here, either, Steve. I don't care for their TV ads either.
> > > > What I will say, as someone who has "dieted" many times and have been the
> > > > most successful with WW, is that many diets almost set people up for
> > > > failure. WW structures their program in such a way that it simplifies
> > > > dieting and makes food choices very flexible, which seems to lead to
> > > > greater success. Their program is well defined in their literature and
> > > > their meting leaders are well trained to advise on many food issues.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Wayne Boatwright
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > Tuesday, 08(VIII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > Cats must supervise the human when
> > > > s/he is working at the kitchen counter.
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> > > I couldnt join weight watchers any way. it is to far from where I
> > > live and the food to costly. I gained 21 since April. I am 43 years
> > > old. I dont drink alcohol or do drugs, just been eating since my dog
> > > died.
>
> > What about making a list of items you like in the four food groups and
> > utilize that info to make/at balanced meals (no desert in every meal).
> > Also keep in mind that despite the recommendation by so called
> > experts, eating too many fruits will give you too much sugar which
> > will turn into Carb in the body.

I must have been feeling sleepy; I meant .. excess in sugar will cause
weight gain.
>
> > I'd say that for the purpose of losing weight, concentrate on relying
> > on high protein intake and some carbohydrate primarily without
> > avoiding fruits altogether. But fruits like mango should be avoided
> > because despite vitamin C, it's will give you too much calorie. also,
> > instead of relying on getting protein from meals, may be try a protein
> > shake using whey powder. Avoid using juice in making it. If you need
> > some flavor, may be use a bit of yogurt? Avoid butter., margarine,
> > hydrogenated vegetable oils (that includes snack made with it) . And
> > of course, slightly smaller portion and also exercise.
>
> > The following is some info on food groups though I personally goes
> > with terms like Carbohydrate (bread, pasta, noodle, rice), Protein
> > (meat, fish, lentils, chickpeas), Sugar, and Vitamins and Minerals;
> > You will still get some vitamins and minerals from other food groups
> > but it just refers to veges and fruits. I'd say avoid sugar as much as
> > you can. I won't strictly follow the guideline of the Food Pyramid
> > just because that would be too much food to eat.
>
> >http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Four-F...oups&id=160000
>
> > I'd say that instead of thinking about a long list of food you can
> > make and making them by adjusting use of oil and butter in them, .
> > just make a few healthy dishes that would serve the purpose and eat
> > them in the amount slightly less than you have been eating. Drink a
> > lot of water too.
>
> > Hope that helps a little..- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> This sounds like it is getting closer to something I can look into.
> For me, I have no conception of what alot of the foods ingredients
> mean or if those ingredients are good for you or not.

Don't worry about bad stuff. Learn to combine based on food groups.
For example, you don't want to eat rice and potatoes in the same meal
because they are form the same food group and you don't need both at
the same time. So, pick one from carbohydrate (rice, bread, potatoes,
pasta, noodle, etc.) and pick one form protein (meat, fish, egg).
Then also, eat some veges. Pick any use green veges and it will be
good. Try tomatoes, carrot, etc. Just avoid refined products and try
to make most of your meals. Using spaghetti sauce in a jar is okay
but I won't buy the tv dinner for it.

I would avoid white bread, white rice, and cheap potatoes; buy the
good kind.; brown rice, wheat bread, and small red or white potatoes.
Buy lean meat. Try some legumes by making the simplest dish: boil them
- red lentil is very easy to boil - to make soup. You can just boil
that, put some salt and drink it or add some veges. You can add onion
when boiling unless you do not like it. Back home, we boil lentils
and onion -cut into thinly slice pieces - together, adding a tiny bit
of oil to prevent the foam overpowering when it starts boiling. if
you like, you can mix red lentils and yellow split peas but soak
yellow split peas for some times. My favorite is chickpeas; it has
good protein. You can just boil and eat it or put in salad. remember
to soak it overnight unless you use pressure cooker to boil it. I
just boil quite a bit and use some and freeze some for later.

Once in a while 9durign your dieting), go out and eat at the
restaurant but not fried food

Hope all this helps.

> I read about a
> doctor who said 'enriched' bread is actually bread that has had all
> the GOOD stuff taken out and replaced with bad stuff. It had a
> picture of the white stuff and it looked to me like a big bucket of
> lard. He said it doesnt really digest in your body.The word was
> hydrogized or something like that, but what i read and saw...made an
> impact on me.

Hydrogenation is a chemical process to make vegetable oil hard like
lard. So, that vegetable oil has been hydrogenated and is worse then
animal fat because not only that it is hard, it is a synthetically
product now.

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
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> Goomba wrote:
>
>> kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> LOL. I'm a 40 year old grandma, and I've never had a child. (Okay,
>>> step-grandma.) <g>
>>>
>>> kili
>>>
>> Ya wanna talk PWT? Loretta Lynn was a GRANDMOTHER at age 28!! She had
>> her first kid at 14, and her kid had a kid at 14.
>
> PWT?


Poor White Trash.

Of course I in no way associate myself with the OP claiming Loretty was PWT.
She was and is the Queen of country music (R.I.P) <Country music, that is>

TFM®

TFM®

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>
>
> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
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>> Goomba wrote:
>>
>>> kilikini wrote:
>>>
>>>> LOL. I'm a 40 year old grandma, and I've never had a child. (Okay,
>>>> step-grandma.) <g>
>>>>
>>>> kili
>>>>
>>> Ya wanna talk PWT? Loretta Lynn was a GRANDMOTHER at age 28!! She had
>>> her first kid at 14, and her kid had a kid at 14.
>>
>> PWT?
>
>
> Poor White Trash.
>
> Of course I in no way associate myself with the OP claiming Loretty was PWT.
> She was and is the Queen of country music (R.I.P) <Country music, that is>

Yikes! When I read that paragraph, having not looked higher up there in
the quoted stuff, when I read "Loretty" and then "country music", instead
of recognizing the reference to Loretta Lynn, I flashed on Mary Kay Place
on "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman", playing Loretta Haggers, Mary Hartman's
next door neighbor who was a country singer wannabe (who actually did get
local gigs). <shakes head, hopes that recalibrates it>


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