On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:36:31 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> sf : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:30:12 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>sf : in
> rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> Good lord, Sheldon. Get a grip! He explained how he got all that
>>>> cookware, apparently you missed the post.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I ALWAYS wash my glasses in the dishwasher - including the
> antique
>>>> ones. Nothing, nada thing is etched. I don't have hard water,
> that's
>>>> why.
>>>>
>>>> I don't put pot & pans in the dishwasher, but that's so I'll have
> more
>>>> room for dishes. I'll run a glass casserole dish through every now
>>>> and then because I'm a terrible hand washer. Slam bam, thank you
>>>> m'am. Done.
>>>
>>>You surely don't put good crystal in the dishwasher... Do you?
>>>
>>>Michael <- about to cringe at the thought
>>
>> Actually, I do. Just not the stemware.
>
> Hmmm... I have always been told that eventually the crystal will become
> cloudy. Must be the heat cycle. Apparently most of the folks responding
> put it in the dishwasher but do not use the heat cycle.
>
> Michael

i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're putting
in there.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:51:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Aug 8, 10:12*am, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> No matter what, the Douche'Wayne has more and better. *I don't believe
>> him, I've not ever seen anything he claims. *And automatic dishwashers
>> ruin porcelainized cookware, it will etch the surface the same as it
>> will any glassware, the non stick property will be lost, plus the
>> roughened surface will absorb odors and stink, that's why bars wash
>> all glassware by hand. *No cookware should go in the dishwasher.
>> Duh'Wayne is a LIAR!
>
> Sheldon, are you aware that there is a difference between lying and
> simply being wrong about something?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

why should he know the difference? he is either lying or being wrong no
matter what gibberish he posts.

your pal,
blake

hahabogus wrote:

>
> Once a year almost like a ritual I go down into the basement and bring up
> the wedgewood china and crystal glassware I inherited from my mom. I would
> not use a dishwasher to wash this stuff as it is too important. I'll never
> use the stuff as a dinner service; it has too many memories and history
> for me to risk damage. This stuff isn't dinnerware it is more like
> ancestor worship. I have too much respect for the past history of the
> items to do other than handle it carefully by hand. Remembering past
> instances with lost friends and family is very involved in the hand
> washing and re-packing away of this stuff.
>

That sounds sad to me. If you were my child and inherited something
like that from me, I'd want you to keep it out and use it, maybe not
every day, but for holidays and guest dinners at least. If a piece gets
broken, a minor annoyance not a major tragedy. Your children should
have the chance to see the china used just as you did. It will have no
history for them.

Life is for living while you can, not annual ancestor worship. My
mother died many years ago when I was 28. Her best gift to me was the
example of the life she lived. Her china was stored in the china
cabinet and washed twice a year, used seldom. Didn't mean a thing to me.

I inherited my mother-in-law's 70 year old Franciscan but long ago
bought my own china and both are too traditional for my children's taste.

I can't imagine packing away something I loved.

gloria p

On Fri 08 Aug 2008 12:51:40p, Cindy Hamilton told us...

> On Aug 8, 10:12*am, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> No matter what, the Douche'Wayne has more and better. *I don't believe
>> him, I've not ever seen anything he claims. *And automatic dishwashers
>> ruin porcelainized cookware, it will etch the surface the same as it
>> will any glassware, the non stick property will be lost, plus the
>> roughened surface will absorb odors and stink, that's why bars wash
>> all glassware by hand. *No cookware should go in the dishwasher.
>> Duh'Wayne is a LIAR!
>
> Sheldon, are you aware that there is a difference between lying and
> simply being wrong about something?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

And, Cindy, in this case I am neither lying nor wrong about what I said. I
have been using the diswasher for dishes, glassware, crystal, porcelain
coated cookware, and silverware since about the mid-1960s, and have never
suffered a damage to anything. It may be that other people have had
problems. I clearly have not.

Having said that, I never put any credence into anything that Sheldon has
to say. Most of the time he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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On Sat 09 Aug 2008 02:45:49p, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:36:31 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
>> sf : in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:30:12 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>sf : in
rec.food.cooking
>>>>
>>>>> Good lord, Sheldon. Get a grip! He explained how he got all that
>>>>> cookware, apparently you missed the post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I ALWAYS wash my glasses in the dishwasher - including the
antique
>>>>> ones. Nothing, nada thing is etched. I don't have hard water,
that's
>>>>> why.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't put pot & pans in the dishwasher, but that's so I'll have
more
>>>>> room for dishes. I'll run a glass casserole dish through every now
>>>>> and then because I'm a terrible hand washer. Slam bam, thank you
m'am.
>>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>>You surely don't put good crystal in the dishwasher... Do you?
>>>>
>>>>Michael <- about to cringe at the thought
>>>
>>> Actually, I do. Just not the stemware.
>>
>> Hmmm... I have always been told that eventually the crystal will become
>> cloudy. Must be the heat cycle. Apparently most of the folks
responding
>> put it in the dishwasher but do not use the heat cycle.
>>
>> Michael
>
> i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're
putting
> in there.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

I always use the heated drying cycle unless I'm planning on hand drying
something. Heated, thus accelerated, drying helps to prevent spotting, in
conjunction with the appropriate washing and rinse agent chemicals.

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blake murphy wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:36:45 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I've only *ever* been "me"...on occasion I'll morph to defeat someone's
> > killfiles, but I'll always sign my name to the post.
> >
> > Steve Sqwertz *is* pretty sneeky though...he likes to morph into
different
> > "identities" for "amusement". Such a "card" that boy is...
> >
> > ;-)
>
> yeah, i've only been me except to defeat people's killfiles to annoy them.
> you're a model of integrity, greg.


I always aim to please, blake...

:-)


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On Aug 10, 9:37�am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> blake murphy :in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>
> > i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're
> > putting in there.
>
> I use it because I get tired of mopping up the water that gathers on the
> dishes. �There are times when I don't use it but I used it almost always.

Agreed. It's silly to run a dishwasher and still have to wipe dry
manually. On my Maytag I use "Auto Clean", an all encompassing cycle
that runs 90 minutes.... easier than pressing a series of buttons and
having to decide which functions to include and omit. I've tried not
using the Dry function, next morning everything is still wet enough
that I need to wipe.... it's enough to unlaod I don't want to have to
finish the process manually, than who needs an *automatic* dishwasher
if one circumvents the auto part.

Here's a question for you folks who seem to know all the whys and
wherefores of dishwashing chemicals.

My husband put the metal beater from my KitchenAid stand mixer into the
dishwasher the other day, without my knowledge. It came out loaded with
what looked like white pretzel salt. The raised deposits come right off
with a damp towel, but I was wondering just what it is. I usually wash
all of my mixer parts by hand.

Denise

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:06 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
wrote:

>blake murphy >
t: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're
>> putting in there.
>
>I use it because I get tired of mopping up the water that gathers on the
>dishes. There are times when I don't use it but I used it almost always.
>
There's a problem if you've got water. Either your water isn't hot
enough or you open the door as soon as the cycle finishes. *Don't*
open the door until everything has cooled down. The only water you'll
have in on deep convex surfaces and bowls that tipped upside down. My
items are either shallow convex or tilted so the water runs off, so no
water problems here. Do you use a rinse aide like Jet Dry? That
helps tremendously.



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Mae West

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:20:07 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
wrote:

> On my Maytag I use "Auto Clean", an all encompassing cycle
>that runs 90 minutes.... easier than pressing a series of buttons and
>having to decide which functions to include and omit. I've tried not
>using the Dry function,

On my Bosch, it's two buttons... one to select the cycle and the other
to turn it on. No big deal.


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Denise in NH wrote:
> Here's a question for you folks who seem to know all the whys and
> wherefores of dishwashing chemicals.
>
> My husband put the metal beater from my KitchenAid stand mixer into
> the dishwasher the other day, without my knowledge.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the Only way to wash beaters.

> It came out
> loaded with what looked like white pretzel salt. The raised deposits
> come right off with a damp towel, but I was wondering just what it
> is. I usually wash all of my mixer parts by hand.

Is your dishwasher detergent old? Because it sounds as if it's not
desolving. No idea what other thing might cause that. It's only on
the beaters? Were they situated in a way that they didn't get enough
water?

Dishwasher detergent does get old. It's one thing I wouldn't stock
up on, too much.

nancy

On Sun 10 Aug 2008 08:13:39a, told us...

> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:06 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
> wrote:
>
>>blake murphy >
: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>
>>> i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're
>>> putting in there.
>>
>>I use it because I get tired of mopping up the water that gathers on the
>>dishes. There are times when I don't use it but I used it almost always.
>>
> There's a problem if you've got water. Either your water isn't hot
> enough or you open the door as soon as the cycle finishes. *Don't*
> open the door until everything has cooled down. The only water you'll
> have in on deep convex surfaces and bowls that tipped upside down. My
> items are either shallow convex or tilted so the water runs off, so no
> water problems here. Do you use a rinse aide like Jet Dry? That
> helps tremendously.

That would be a problem with my dishwasher, SF. The same setting that
provides heated drying also provides the "heat assist" to keep the water at
operating temperature during the cycle. The functions are inseparable.
I've tried turning it off and had poor cleaning results. My water heater
is set at 140°F which is the recommended temperature for most automatic
dishwashers, and I always run the water at the sink until it is steaming
hot before turning on the dishwasher. Not using the added heat option
would not be an option for me. I do use a rinse agent, but that has
nothing to do with cleaning the dishes, only preventing water spots and
some aid in drying.

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On Aug 10, 11:15�am, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:20:07 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
> wrote:
>
> > On my Maytag I use "Auto Clean", an all encompassing cycle
> >that runs 90 minutes.... easier than pressing a series of buttons and
> >having to decide which functions to include and omit. �I've tried not
> >using the Dry function,
>
> On my Bosch, it's two buttons... one to select the cycle and the other
> to turn it on. �No big deal.

You miss the point entirely, it's not about how many buttons, it's
about whether or not to include the Dry cycle, that's all.

On my Maytag I can select from many individual cycles and in
combination thereof; Rinse Only, Light Wash, Normal Wash, Heavy Wash,
Tough Scrub Plus, Pot Scrubber, Sanitize, Heated Dry, Extra Rinse.
Or I can select "Auto Clean" which includes Normal Wash and Heated
Dry, which is what I normaly use... occasionally I'll include Pot
Scrubber... not for pots, I wash those by hand... but I wash my stove
grates and drip pan in the washer. I use Auto Clean because it's the
default that Maytag recommends, it's a normal wash but includes heated
dry. I don't see the point in using a dish washer and not using the
dry cycle. Anyone who claims their dishes dry must have some sort of
dry cycle, probably just not heated, just a fan running for about an
hour instead of a ten minute fan plus heat.

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:02:01 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 09 Aug 2008 12:26:13p, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:19:22 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>

>>>
>>> Isn't that what the butler is for? ;-)
>>
>> my butler hasn't been the same since my maid committed suicide.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
>
> Are you sure it was suicide, or did the butler do it?

nah, the butler was out on a date with col. mustard.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:48 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> blake murphy >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:25:23 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright >
>>> 5.250: in
>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that what the butler is for? ;-)
>>>
>>> <snort> I can't afford one. And besides, around here it would have
>>> to be a house boy ;o)
>>>
>>> Michael <- running again
>>
>> i was heartbroken when i found out jeeves was a fictional character.
>
> He was? OMG... now you've spoiled it all for me
>
> Michael

worst of all, jeeves' magic morning revivifier probably doesn't exist
either. sad but true.

your pal,
pelham

On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:01:11 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:36:45 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I've only *ever* been "me"...on occasion I'll morph to defeat someone's
>>> killfiles, but I'll always sign my name to the post.
>>>
>>> Steve Sqwertz *is* pretty sneeky though...he likes to morph into
> different
>>> "identities" for "amusement". Such a "card" that boy is...
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>> yeah, i've only been me except to defeat people's killfiles to annoy them.
>> you're a model of integrity, greg.
>
>
> I always aim to please, blake...
>

you need more lessons. try hitting the side of a barn first and work from
there.

blake

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:46:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 09 Aug 2008 02:45:49p, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:36:31 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>> sf : in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:30:12 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>sf : in
> rec.food.cooking
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good lord, Sheldon. Get a grip! He explained how he got all that
>>>>>> cookware, apparently you missed the post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I ALWAYS wash my glasses in the dishwasher - including the
> antique
>>>>>> ones. Nothing, nada thing is etched. I don't have hard water,
> that's
>>>>>> why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't put pot & pans in the dishwasher, but that's so I'll have
> more
>>>>>> room for dishes. I'll run a glass casserole dish through every now
>>>>>> and then because I'm a terrible hand washer. Slam bam, thank you
> m'am.
>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>>You surely don't put good crystal in the dishwasher... Do you?
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael <- about to cringe at the thought
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I do. Just not the stemware.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... I have always been told that eventually the crystal will become
>>> cloudy. Must be the heat cycle. Apparently most of the folks
> responding
>>> put it in the dishwasher but do not use the heat cycle.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> i don't see the point in using the heat cycle no matter what you're
> putting
>> in there.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
>
> I always use the heated drying cycle unless I'm planning on hand drying
> something. Heated, thus accelerated, drying helps to prevent spotting, in
> conjunction with the appropriate washing and rinse agent chemicals.

i guess i'm lucky that my water is only moderately hard. (it is hard water
that spots, right?) i use the store-brand knockoff of cascade, no
problems.

but as i recall, you sometimes run the dishwasher more than once a day - i
can see it then.

your pal,
blake

On Sun 10 Aug 2008 09:23:34a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:02:01 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sat 09 Aug 2008 12:26:13p, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:19:22 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that what the butler is for? ;-)
>>>
>>> my butler hasn't been the same since my maid committed suicide.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>>
>>
>> Are you sure it was suicide, or did the butler do it?
>
> nah, the butler was out on a date with col. mustard.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

Hell, no wonder she committed suicide. Her feminine wiles were destroyed.

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On Sun 10 Aug 2008 10:33:25a, Gregory Morrow told us...

>
> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:48 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>> > blake murphy >
>> > : in rec.food.cooking
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:25:23 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Wayne Boatwright >
>> >>> 5.250: in
>> >>> rec.food.cooking
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Isn't that what the butler is for? ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>> <snort> I can't afford one. And besides, around here it would have
>> >>> to be a house boy ;o)
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael <- running again
>> >>
>> >> i was heartbroken when i found out jeeves was a fictional character.
>> >
>> > He was? OMG... now you've spoiled it all for me
>> >
>> > Michael
>>
>> worst of all, jeeves' magic morning revivifier probably doesn't exist
>> either. sad but true.
>
>
> Isn't reading this group enough of a morning revivifier for you...???
>
>

Sometimes it gives me a headache! :-)

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blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:48 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> > blake murphy >
> > : in rec.food.cooking
> >
> >> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:25:23 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wayne Boatwright >
> >>> 5.250: in
> >>> rec.food.cooking
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn't that what the butler is for? ;-)
> >>>
> >>> <snort> I can't afford one. And besides, around here it would have
> >>> to be a house boy ;o)
> >>>
> >>> Michael <- running again
> >>
> >> i was heartbroken when i found out jeeves was a fictional character.
> >
> > He was? OMG... now you've spoiled it all for me
> >
> > Michael
>
> worst of all, jeeves' magic morning revivifier probably doesn't exist
> either. sad but true.


Isn't reading this group enough of a morning revivifier for you...???


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blake murphy wrote:

>> But the few things I *won't* put in are my good knives and my crystal.
>> I've even been known to put my good silver in there.
>> I'm like you-I enjoy washings, admiring, drying, and admiring yet again
>> my crystal and silver as I care for it. I enjoy polishing my silver. I
>> find it a calm, mindless task that makes me feel pleased with life in
>> general.
>
> bloated plutocrat.
>
> your pal,
> blake

am not.
goomba

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:56 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss >
: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> I've got a few too. I've never bought one new. I see them at resale
>> stores and garage sales all the time. Here's a very odd sized one.
>> You can do anything from make soup to making Italian beef. It works
>> great for steaming a bunch of tamales. I've always heard them called
>> speckleware.
>>
>> http://i36.tinypic.com/kecfms.jpg
>
>Now that is really different. I wouldn't mind having one of those.
>
>Michael

I'm glad I got it. It gets used a lot.

Lou

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:10:31 -0500, Lou Decruss >
wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:56 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
>wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss >
m: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>
>>> I've got a few too. I've never bought one new. I see them at resale
>>> stores and garage sales all the time. Here's a very odd sized one.
>>> You can do anything from make soup to making Italian beef. It works
>>> great for steaming a bunch of tamales. I've always heard them called
>>> speckleware.
>>>
>>> http://i36.tinypic.com/kecfms.jpg
>>
>>Now that is really different. I wouldn't mind having one of those.
>>
>>Michael
>
>I'm glad I got it. It gets used a lot.

Rick Bayless had a show on recently where he made tamales. And he had
one of those, and he said they were perfect for steaming them.

Now I have to find one myself...LOL. See what you have done?

Christine

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:18:00 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:10:31 -0500, Lou Decruss >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:56 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Lou Decruss >
: in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've got a few too. I've never bought one new. I see them at resale
>>>> stores and garage sales all the time. Here's a very odd sized one.
>>>> You can do anything from make soup to making Italian beef. It works
>>>> great for steaming a bunch of tamales. I've always heard them called
>>>> speckleware.
>>>>
>>>> http://i36.tinypic.com/kecfms.jpg
>>>
>>>Now that is really different. I wouldn't mind having one of those.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>I'm glad I got it. It gets used a lot.
>
>Rick Bayless had a show on recently where he made tamales. And he had
>one of those, and he said they were perfect for steaming them.
>
>Now I have to find one myself...LOL. See what you have done?

LOL. Look at resale stores. I hope you can find one. I've got the
only one I've ever seen.

Lou

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:03:55 -0400, Goomba wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>>> But the few things I *won't* put in are my good knives and my crystal.
>>> I've even been known to put my good silver in there.
>>> I'm like you-I enjoy washings, admiring, drying, and admiring yet again
>>> my crystal and silver as I care for it. I enjoy polishing my silver. I
>>> find it a calm, mindless task that makes me feel pleased with life in
>>> general.
>>
>> bloated plutocrat.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> am not.
> goomba

i still love you, honey.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:51:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Aug 8, 10:12 am, Sheldon > wrote:
>>
>>> No matter what, the Douche'Wayne has more and better. I don't believe
>>> him, I've not ever seen anything he claims. And automatic dishwashers
>>> ruin porcelainized cookware, it will etch the surface the same as it
>>> will any glassware, the non stick property will be lost, plus the
>>> roughened surface will absorb odors and stink, that's why bars wash
>>> all glassware by hand. No cookware should go in the dishwasher.
>>> Duh'Wayne is a LIAR!


Jezus Sheldon ! China City in Freeland Wa. washes bar glasses in a
dishwasher. Where do you come up with this?
Dont tell me, your a republican right?




>> Sheldon, are you aware that there is a difference between lying and
>> simply being wrong about something?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> why should he know the difference? he is either lying or being wrong no
> matter what gibberish he posts.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>