Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of waater,
weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
anything for breakfast. I don t like eating huge meals as it slows me
down and i want to go to sleep, so what is a good hearty breakfast
that wont leave you feeling like you want to go into hibernation for
a month

Nina > wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:55:14 -0500,
> lid (SebNoker) wrote:
>
> > Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of waater,
> > weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
> > Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
> > anything for breakfast. I don t like eating huge meals as it slows
> > me down and i want to go to sleep, so what is a good hearty
> > breakfast that wont leave you feeling like you want to go into
> > hibernation for a month
>
> My guess is that because you're eating a breakfast that's basically a
> big hunk of carbohydrate and no fat and little protein, what's
> happening is that mid-morning, your blood sugar starts dropping as the
> rapidly-burned carbs are gone, and then you're starving.
>
> I'd try eating something that's more protein (and possibly fat) based
> and try to eliminate the carbs, and see what happens. Like... have a
> couple of hard-boiled eggs. Or some cheese. Something like that,
> which has protein and fat but no sugars.
>
> It might not work for you, because everyone's metabolism is different,
> but when I stopped eating cereal or bread and started eating things
> like an egg and a slice of bacon, I stopped getting so hungry
> mid-morning.
>
> Nina

I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars) the focus
of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or cereal in the morning
doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by lunch time. An egg scrambled
with a little grated cheese and a couple of slices of bacon, even better (I
love bacon!)

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Nina > wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:55:14 -0500,
>> lid (SebNoker) wrote:
>>
>>> Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of waater,
>>> weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
>>> Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
>>> anything for breakfast. I don t like eating huge meals as it slows
>>> me down and i want to go to sleep, so what is a good hearty
>>> breakfast that wont leave you feeling like you want to go into
>>> hibernation for a month
>>
>> My guess is that because you're eating a breakfast that's basically a
>> big hunk of carbohydrate and no fat and little protein, what's
>> happening is that mid-morning, your blood sugar starts dropping as
>> the rapidly-burned carbs are gone, and then you're starving.
>>
>> I'd try eating something that's more protein (and possibly fat) based
>> and try to eliminate the carbs, and see what happens. Like... have a
>> couple of hard-boiled eggs. Or some cheese. Something like that,
>> which has protein and fat but no sugars.
>>
>> It might not work for you, because everyone's metabolism is
>> different, but when I stopped eating cereal or bread and started
>> eating things like an egg and a slice of bacon, I stopped getting so
>> hungry mid-morning.
>>
>> Nina
>
> I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars) the
> focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or cereal in
> the morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by lunch time.
> An egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a couple of slices
> of bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
>
> Jill

I love bacon, too, but I like it *in* something, like chopped up with fresh
green beans cooked down on the stove - Southern style. For breakfast, I
really enjoy plain fruit. I think I gorged myself on grapes this morning
because I feel rather bloated. LOL. I'll graze on fruit through the day
and then I'll eat some sort of veggie for dinner. I'm thinking of Japanese
cucumber salad for dinner tonight. We've got 3 cucumbers that need to be
eaten as well as a tomato. Marinate them in a nice rice wine vinegar salad
dressing with a touch of ginger and garlic. Sounds good to me! (Sorry,
Jill, I know you're not a salad person. <g> )

kili

Nina wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:19:21 -0400, "kilikini"
>>>
>>> I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars)
>>> the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or
>>> cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by
>>> lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a
>>> couple of slices of bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I love bacon, too, but I like it *in* something, like chopped up
>> with fresh green beans cooked down on the stove - Southern style.
>> For breakfast, I really enjoy plain fruit. I think I gorged myself
>> on grapes this morning because I feel rather bloated. LOL. I'll
>> graze on fruit through the day and then I'll eat some sort of veggie
>> for dinner. I'm thinking of Japanese cucumber salad for dinner
>> tonight. We've got 3 cucumbers that need to be eaten as well as a
>> tomato. Marinate them in a nice rice wine vinegar salad dressing
>> with a touch of ginger and garlic. Sounds good to me! (Sorry,
>> Jill, I know you're not a salad person. <g> )
>
> Oh, sounds great to me, though! I love cucumbers that way, and now
> that you mention it, I have a bunch that need to be eaten...
>
> I can't do just fruit for breakfast any more than I can do just
> cereal... it's that sugar burst that leaves me way hungrier later.
> Although this time of year, the fruit is so great that the temptation
> is huge...
>
> Nina

The fruit is a reasonable price right now and it's so plentiful. It's about
the only thing that appeals to me in the morning. I'd say the temptation is
more than huge. LOL.

kili

kilikini wrote:

> I love bacon, too, but I like it *in* something, like chopped up with fresh
> green beans cooked down on the stove - Southern style. For breakfast, I
> really enjoy plain fruit. I think I gorged myself on grapes this morning
> because I feel rather bloated. LOL. I'll graze on fruit through the day
> and then I'll eat some sort of veggie for dinner. I'm thinking of Japanese
> cucumber salad for dinner tonight. We've got 3 cucumbers that need to be
> eaten as well as a tomato. Marinate them in a nice rice wine vinegar salad
> dressing with a touch of ginger and garlic. Sounds good to me! (Sorry,
> Jill, I know you're not a salad person. <g> )
>
> kili

Fruit is good, vegetables are good, but are you getting enough protein?
Mac & cheese, beans & rice, does any of that sound appealing? Sorry to
sound like a mother hen. lol

Becca

Becca wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
>> I love bacon, too, but I like it *in* something, like chopped up
>> with fresh green beans cooked down on the stove - Southern style. For
>> breakfast, I really enjoy plain fruit. I think I gorged myself
>> on grapes this morning because I feel rather bloated. LOL. I'll
>> graze on fruit through the day and then I'll eat some sort of veggie
>> for dinner. I'm thinking of Japanese cucumber salad for dinner
>> tonight. We've got 3 cucumbers that need to be eaten as well as a
>> tomato. Marinate them in a nice rice wine vinegar salad dressing
>> with a touch of ginger and garlic. Sounds good to me! (Sorry,
>> Jill, I know you're not a salad person. <g> ) kili
>
> Fruit is good, vegetables are good, but are you getting enough
> protein? Mac & cheese, beans & rice, does any of that sound
> appealing? Sorry to sound like a mother hen. lol
>
> Becca

My husband gets after me all the time for not eating enough protein, so
don't worry about it. :~)

kili

jmcquown wrote:
> Nina > wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:55:14 -0500,
>> lid (SebNoker) wrote:
>>
>> > Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of waater,
>> > weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
>> > Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
>> > anything for breakfast. I don t like eating huge meals as it slows
>> > me down and i want to go to sleep, so what is a good hearty
>> > breakfast that wont leave you feeling like you want to go into
>> > hibernation for a month
>>
>> My guess is that because you're eating a breakfast that's basically a
>> big hunk of carbohydrate and no fat and little protein, what's
>> happening is that mid-morning, your blood sugar starts dropping as the
>> rapidly-burned carbs are gone, and then you're starving.
>>
>> I'd try eating something that's more protein (and possibly fat) based
>> and try to eliminate the carbs, and see what happens. Like... have a
>> couple of hard-boiled eggs. Or some cheese. Something like that,
>> which has protein and fat but no sugars.
>>
>> It might not work for you, because everyone's metabolism is different,
>> but when I stopped eating cereal or bread and started eating things
>> like an egg and a slice of bacon, I stopped getting so hungry
>> mid-morning.
>>
>> Nina
>
> I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars) the
> focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or cereal in the
> morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by lunch time. An
> egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a couple of slices of
> bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
>
> Jill

Can your colon handle that?

kilikini wrote:
> Becca wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> I love bacon, too, but I like it *in* something, like chopped up
>>> with fresh green beans cooked down on the stove - Southern style. For
>>> breakfast, I really enjoy plain fruit. I think I gorged myself
>>> on grapes this morning because I feel rather bloated. LOL. I'll
>>> graze on fruit through the day and then I'll eat some sort of veggie
>>> for dinner. I'm thinking of Japanese cucumber salad for dinner
>>> tonight. We've got 3 cucumbers that need to be eaten as well as a
>>> tomato. Marinate them in a nice rice wine vinegar salad dressing
>>> with a touch of ginger and garlic. Sounds good to me! (Sorry,
>>> Jill, I know you're not a salad person. <g> ) kili
>> Fruit is good, vegetables are good, but are you getting enough
>> protein? Mac & cheese, beans & rice, does any of that sound
>> appealing? Sorry to sound like a mother hen. lol
>>
>> Becca
>
> My husband gets after me all the time for not eating enough protein, so
> don't worry about it. :~)
>
> kili

Thanks for being a good sport about it. I will try to zip it, I
promise. We don't know how long that will last, though, I can only be
good for so long. lol

Becca

DK > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Nina > wrote:
> > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:55:14 -0500,
> > > lid (SebNoker) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of
> > > > waater, weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
> > > > Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
> > > > anything for breakfast.
> > >
> > > I'd try eating something that's more protein (and possibly fat)
> > > based and try to eliminate the carbs, and see what happens. Like...
> > > have a couple of hard-boiled eggs. Or some cheese. Something like
> > > that, which has protein and fat but no sugars.
> > >
> > > It might not work for you, because everyone's metabolism is
> > > different, but when I stopped eating cereal or bread and started
> > > eating things like an egg and a slice of bacon, I stopped getting
> > > so hungry mid-morning.
> > >
> > > Nina
> >
> > I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars)
> > the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or
> > cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by
> > lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a
> > couple of slices of bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
> >
> > Jill
>
> Can your colon handle that?

Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving me scrambled
eggs before I was discharged from the hospital) and mild cheeses are fine.
I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until after surgery.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> DK > wrote:
>>>
>>> I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars)
>>> the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or
>>> cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by
>>> lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a
>>> couple of slices of bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Can your colon handle that?
>
> Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving me
> scrambled eggs before I was discharged from the hospital) and mild
> cheeses are fine. I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until after surgery.
>

Is it because bacon can be hard that you can't have it? I'm curious as to
what you *can* eat right now. I would imagine soup (which is your forte),
pasta, rice, eggs, cheese, - can you eat bread?

kili

kilikini > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > DK > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension,
> > > > sugars) the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than
> > > > toast or cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like
> > > > I'm starving by lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little
> > > > grated cheese and a couple of slices of bacon, even better (I
> > > > love bacon!) Jill
> > >
> > > Can your colon handle that?
> >
> > Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving me
> > scrambled eggs before I was discharged from the hospital) and mild
> > cheeses are fine. I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until after surgery.
> >
>
> Is it because bacon can be hard that you can't have it? I'm curious
> as to what you *can* eat right now. I would imagine soup (which is
> your forte), pasta, rice, eggs, cheese, - can you eat bread?
>
> kili

I have to eat a low fiber ("low residue") diet for a while. Weird, since
common medical thinking indicates diverticulitis is caused by not enough
fiber in your diet. I was eating plenty of it and look where it landed me!
High fiber food isn't easily digrested. It can get trapped in the
diverticuli. Once the diverticuli become inflamed and infected (and in my
case, rupture) high fiber is downright dangerous.

So for the time being, refined white flour products. No whole grains,
multi-grain breads or pastas. Biscuits beat white toast, hands down But
I'm no good at making them... think Ellie Mae Clampett! I like Mary B's
brand frozen (uncooked) biscuits. I can only have white rice, not brown.
Can't have wild rice - I know, it's a grass seed, not rice, but I love it.

Eggs are fine. Cheeses are fine if they're mild. American, cheddar, colby
& swiss varieties come to mind. Can't eat the pepper-jack that's in the
fridge. I've been told to avoid highly spiced foods so of course I'm
craving a bowl of spicy chili or a plate of tamales. LOL

I need to avoid overly fatty and fried foods; I could probably eat a few
slices of crispy bacon (which is really the only way to go) but why tempt
fate? When I was in the hospital I had a breakfast of ham & scrambled eggs.
The ham had been chopped into tiny bits. I'm not going that far - my teeth
still work Lean meats, chicken and seafood are on the yes list, thank
goodness. (Had two crab cakes for dinner last night.)

Fresh fruit can be too high in fiber. Canned (processed) fruit is on the
okay list, except for pineapple which is fibrous no matter what. Vegetables
need to be well cooked. That's not a problem... I don't like veggies cooked
to mush but I was never a fan of "tender-crisp", either. Potatoes have to
be peeled; no mashed taters with the skins left on. <sigh>

Cream/pureed soups are recommended. Potato-leek sounds good right about
now. I'm pretty sure I could eat the sourdough "bread bowl" I like to serve
it in, too

I have to avoid nuts and seeds at all costs; that includes seeds in tomato
sauces. And, for the time being, things like lentils and dried beans and
peas are a no-no. I can't eat corn, either, which is a shame since I love
corn on the cob and corn chowder! But the skin of the kernels is too
fibrous and difficult to digest.

If I want something sweet I can have ice cream, chocolate, pudding or
Jell-O.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> kilikini > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> DK > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension,
>>>>> sugars) the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than
>>>>> toast or cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like
>>>>> I'm starving by lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little
>>>>> grated cheese and a couple of slices of bacon, even better (I
>>>>> love bacon!) Jill
>>>>
>>>> Can your colon handle that?
>>>
>>> Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving me
>>> scrambled eggs before I was discharged from the hospital) and mild
>>> cheeses are fine. I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until after surgery.
>>>
>>
>> Is it because bacon can be hard that you can't have it? I'm curious
>> as to what you *can* eat right now. I would imagine soup (which is
>> your forte), pasta, rice, eggs, cheese, - can you eat bread?
>>
>> kili
>
> I have to eat a low fiber ("low residue") diet for a while. Weird,
> since common medical thinking indicates diverticulitis is caused by
> not enough fiber in your diet. I was eating plenty of it and look
> where it landed me! High fiber food isn't easily digrested. It can
> get trapped in the diverticuli. Once the diverticuli become inflamed
> and infected (and in my case, rupture) high fiber is downright
> dangerous.
> So for the time being, refined white flour products. No whole grains,
> multi-grain breads or pastas. Biscuits beat white toast, hands down
> But I'm no good at making them... think Ellie Mae Clampett! I
> like Mary B's brand frozen (uncooked) biscuits. I can only have
> white rice, not brown. Can't have wild rice - I know, it's a grass
> seed, not rice, but I love it.
> Eggs are fine. Cheeses are fine if they're mild. American, cheddar,
> colby & swiss varieties come to mind. Can't eat the pepper-jack
> that's in the fridge. I've been told to avoid highly spiced foods so
> of course I'm craving a bowl of spicy chili or a plate of tamales. LOL
> I need to avoid overly fatty and fried foods; I could probably eat a
> few slices of crispy bacon (which is really the only way to go) but
> why tempt fate? When I was in the hospital I had a breakfast of ham
> & scrambled eggs. The ham had been chopped into tiny bits. I'm not
> going that far - my teeth still work Lean meats, chicken and
> seafood are on the yes list, thank goodness. (Had two crab cakes for
> dinner last night.)
> Fresh fruit can be too high in fiber. Canned (processed) fruit is on
> the okay list, except for pineapple which is fibrous no matter what.
> Vegetables need to be well cooked. That's not a problem... I don't
> like veggies cooked to mush but I was never a fan of "tender-crisp",
> either. Potatoes have to be peeled; no mashed taters with the skins
> left on. <sigh>
> Cream/pureed soups are recommended. Potato-leek sounds good right
> about now. I'm pretty sure I could eat the sourdough "bread bowl" I
> like to serve it in, too
>
> I have to avoid nuts and seeds at all costs; that includes seeds in
> tomato sauces. And, for the time being, things like lentils and
> dried beans and peas are a no-no. I can't eat corn, either, which is
> a shame since I love corn on the cob and corn chowder! But the skin
> of the kernels is too fibrous and difficult to digest.
>
> If I want something sweet I can have ice cream, chocolate, pudding or
> Jell-O.
>
> Jill

Wow, that's pretty strict! I had no idea, Jill, you've got my full
sympathy. With my colitis, I'm supposed to eat a low-fiber diet as well,
but now I've got gallstones as a result of the low-fiber diet and my
gallstones are really bothering me lately. It's time to get the gall
bladder out and I'm dreading it.

Are they still planning on doing surgery for you or are you still waiting to
see?

kili

kilikini > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > kilikini > wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > DK > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension,
> > > > > > sugars) the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather
> > > > > > than toast or cereal in the morning doesn't leave me
> > > > > > feeling like I'm starving by lunch time. An egg scrambled
> > > > > > with a little grated cheese and a couple of slices of
> > > > > > bacon, even better (I love bacon!) Jill
> > > > >
> > > > > Can your colon handle that?
> > > >
> > > > Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving
> > > > me scrambled eggs before I was discharged from the hospital)
> > > > and mild cheeses are fine. I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until
> > > > after surgery.
> > >
> > > Is it because bacon can be hard that you can't have it? I'm
> > > curious as to what you *can* eat right now. I would imagine soup
> > > (which is your forte), pasta, rice, eggs, cheese, - can you eat
> > > bread? kili
> >
> > I have to eat a low fiber ("low residue") diet for a while. Weird,
> > since common medical thinking indicates diverticulitis is caused by
> > not enough fiber in your diet. I was eating plenty of it and look
> > where it landed me! High fiber food isn't easily digrested. It can
> > get trapped in the diverticuli. Once the diverticuli become
> > inflamed and infected (and in my case, rupture) high fiber is
> > downright dangerous.
>
> Wow, that's pretty strict! I had no idea, Jill, you've got my full
> sympathy. With my colitis, I'm supposed to eat a low-fiber diet as
> well, but now I've got gallstones as a result of the low-fiber diet
> and my gallstones are really bothering me lately. It's time to get
> the gall bladder out and I'm dreading it.
>
It's not really that strict. At least I can eat broccoli and spinach and
those wonderful things you love but can't! I do miss whole grain stuff but
it's not so bad.

> Are they still planning on doing surgery for you or are you still
> waiting to see?
>
> kili

Yes, surgery is still planned. Probably September.

Jill

On Aug 7, 2:55*pm, (SebNoker)
wrote:
> Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of waater,
> weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
> Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
> anything for breakfast. I don t like eating huge meals as it slows me
> down and i want to go to sleep, so what is a good hearty breakfast
> that wont leave you feeling like you want to go into hibernation for
> a month

Oatmeal porridge with milk /cream and sugar
Poached egg on toast.

I suspect the weetabix has just enough calories to get you hungary but
not enough to sustain you.

Also I find that eating breakfast does make me a bit hungerier by
lunch time but I also am much more alert all morning.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

jmcquown wrote:
> DK > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> > Nina > wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:55:14 -0500,
>> > > lid (SebNoker) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Started eating breakfast recently, or more like a glass of
>> > > > waater, weetabix, the cereal and a cup of coffee.
>> > > > Now however i am more hungry by lunchtime than when i didnt eat
>> > > > anything for breakfast.
>> > >
>> > > I'd try eating something that's more protein (and possibly fat)
>> > > based and try to eliminate the carbs, and see what happens.
>> Like... > > have a couple of hard-boiled eggs. Or some cheese.
>> Something like > > that, which has protein and fat but no sugars.
>> > >
>> > > It might not work for you, because everyone's metabolism is
>> > > different, but when I stopped eating cereal or bread and started
>> > > eating things like an egg and a slice of bacon, I stopped getting
>> > > so hungry mid-morning.
>> > >
>> > > Nina
>> >
>> > I totally agree about not making carbs (and by extension, sugars)
>> > the focus of breakfast. A couple of eggs rather than toast or
>> > cereal in the morning doesn't leave me feeling like I'm starving by
>> > lunch time. An egg scrambled with a little grated cheese and a
>> > couple of slices of bacon, even better (I love bacon!)
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> Can your colon handle that?
>
> Gee, I didn't know you cared. Eggs are fine (they were giving me
> scrambled eggs before I was discharged from the hospital) and mild
> cheeses are fine. I'm avoiding bacon (arrrgh!) until after surgery.
>
> Jill

I have a friend who recently had surgery for diverticulitis including a
colostomy. Bacon is off of his list.

-dk


-dk