Can you believe this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3441255.stm

"James" > wrote in message
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> Can you believe this?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3441255.stm

That has been around for years. Notice the date on the article is 2004.
Just don't over heat the pan and it is OK.

It is also possible to kill birds by overheating and burning food or oil in
regular pans too.

James wrote:
> Can you believe this?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3441255.stm

Nothing new but a good reminder for bird owners. Birds are sensitive to
many different things. They used to use small birds in cages as gas
detectors in mines.

On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
> Can you believe this?

Ancient history.

On 2008-08-12, George > wrote:

> Nothing new but a good reminder for bird owners. Birds are sensitive to
> many different things. They used to use small birds in cages as gas
> detectors in mines.

Yes, very good mortgage payment detectors. If the parakeet is dead, chances
are good the mortgage payment is iffy, this month.

nb

"James" > wrote in message
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> Can you believe this?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3441255.stm

Of course the picture is that of a parakeet.

On Aug 12, 8:38 am, Janet Baraclough >
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> The message >
> from notbob > contains these words:
>
> > On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
> > > Can you believe this?
> > Ancient history.
>
> I can easily believe it; birds are much more susceptible than humans
> to poor air quality. Canaries were taken down mines as gas detectors.
> I accidentally killed mine when I varnished a floor in the next room;
> the fumes wiped them out.
>
> Janet

I don't mean to offend anyone but the word "accident" reminds me of
what happened to my sister's cockatiel, the second one she got . The
first one (a she) was so easy going that all of us just assumed that
he was just insecure. Reagradles sof how long he has bene with us. He
would act so scared if we put some thing near him on the side when he
is facing the other direction. He would act angry and act as if I was
after it. It was abut annoying and we just assumed that it was being
unresonable.

They were not kept in the cage except when sleeping. (My sister
treated them like humans.) In time, my sister made a little nest for
the first one on the top of the big bookcase in the living room. That
one likes the dark when she wants to rest/sleep. The second one was
beginning to covet that spot and so my sister mad eone for him but
one night, he was till going after the first one, who I think my
sister said was pregnant and needed her energy and rest, etc. and so
my sister took the second one upstairs and put him in a room, the
room he is not used to, and as she closed the door, she *accidentally*
then the switch off. (She intend to leave the light on, she said.)
She heard a big *thud* and didn't think much about it but when she
didn't hear any sound from that room, she went and checked. There it
was injured and unable to move. What happened was that it got
panicked when the light was turned off and flew in panic toward the
window where there was some light form the street and hit the window
hard, injuring in the head. He spent the night with my sister unable
to move and died the next day. form internal bleeding. Laster, my
sister did some reading and learned that blindness common in this
specie and obviously that one was blind in one eye and hence was
always scared when he noticed someone on that side of eyes. It got
panicked with little vision and flew hard to its death.

What I never told my sister was that she was utterly irresponsible to
not read up about the species before getting them as pets. All his
life, since a baby, it lived in fear and died in such a miserable way
with internal head injury.

..

On Aug 11, 6:09 pm, James > wrote:
> Can you believe this?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3441255.stm

Does that mean we should not use any non-stick pan?

amandaF > wrote:

>Does that mean we should not use any non-stick pan?

I don't use any non-stick pans. Possibly toxicity is one reason.

Steve

Steve Pope > wrote:
> amandaF > wrote:
>
> > Does that mean we should not use any non-stick pan?
>
> I don't use any non-stick pans. Possibly toxicity is one reason.
>
> Steve

It merely means one should exercise caution and not heat a pan with
non-stick coating (especially not an empty one) to the point of being
smoking hot. I've had birds pretty much all my life and never had a problem
with my cookware killing them (or me).

Jill

jmcquown > wrote:

>Steve Pope > wrote:

>> amandaF > wrote:

>> > Does that mean we should not use any non-stick pan?

>> I don't use any non-stick pans. Possibly toxicity is one reason.

>It merely means one should exercise caution and not heat a pan with
>non-stick coating (especially not an empty one) to the point of being
>smoking hot.

That would make sense, if there were actually enough advantages of
these non-stick plastic coatings to offset the potential toxicity
if you're not careful enough.

Also, even if you don't vaporize and inhale the plastic, some of
it will inevitably get abraded and ingested, so being careful
heating it might not be good enough.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> jmcquown > wrote:
>
> >Steve Pope > wrote:
>
> >> amandaF > wrote:
>
> >> > Does that mean we should not use any non-stick pan?
>
> >> I don't use any non-stick pans. Possibly toxicity is one reason.
>
> > It merely means one should exercise caution and not heat a pan with
> > non-stick coating (especially not an empty one) to the point of
> > being smoking hot.
>
> That would make sense, if there were actually enough advantages of
> these non-stick plastic coatings to offset the potential toxicity
> if you're not careful enough.

There are many advantages, at least to me. You might not find that to
be so.

> Also, even if you don't vaporize and inhale the plastic, some of
> it will inevitably get abraded and ingested, so being careful
> heating it might not be good enough.

There is no evidence that such a thing is hazardous.




Brian

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Default User > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> That would make sense, if there were actually enough advantages of
>> these non-stick plastic coatings to offset the potential toxicity
>> if you're not careful enough.

>There are many advantages, at least to me. You might not find that to
>be so.

Yeah, I find few if any advantages to non-stick coated cookwear,
and lots of disadvantages relative to the pieces I normally use.

>> Also, even if you don't vaporize and inhale the plastic, some of
>> it will inevitably get abraded and ingested, so being careful
>> heating it might not be good enough.

>There is no evidence that such a thing is hazardous.

Some of us don't like to ingest plastic even if it isn't proven
to be hazardous.

Steve

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>> Can you believe this?
>
> Ancient history.

oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>>> Can you believe this?
>>
>> Ancient history.
>
> oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Shhh it was dead when you bought it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218

Dimitri

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>>> Can you believe this?
>>
>> Ancient history.
>
> oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?
>
Oh, honey. I will get you a new bird. How bout a mocking bird?

blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>>> Can you believe this?
>>
>> Ancient history.
>
> oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?

LOLOL

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:51:40 -0700, Dimitri wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>>> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>>>> Can you believe this?
>>>
>>> Ancient history.
>>
>> oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Shhh it was dead when you bought it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
>
> Dimitri

i *thought* he looked kinda funny.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:16:46 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:19:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>>> On 2008-08-12, James > wrote:
>>>> Can you believe this?
>>>
>>> Ancient history.
>>
>> oh, yeah? how come my bird is still dead?
>>
> Oh, honey. I will get you a new bird. How bout a mocking bird?

what if he turns brass?

your pal,
blake