On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:55:01 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:40:02 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:36:30 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What width is yours? Looking at it, I can't see where the grill is.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>Dee Dee
>>>
>>
>> Dee Dee!!!!!
>>
>> Welcome back!! I have missed your posts here!!!
>>
>> Christine
>
>let me add a hearty yoo-hoo as well.
>
DeeDee is back? Hi Dee! Somehow, I haven't seen this thread for a
while. Maybe it was KF'd and took a long enough break to escape.

Dee the griddle is at the right on the 48 incher. If that griddle was
a grill, I'd be interested.




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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:50:01 -0700, Marcella Peek
> wrote:

>For me it comes down to money.
>
>Our house is three stories. Gas comes in under the house. Kitchen is
>on the top floor. When we moved in husband said he'd love a gas stove.
>When the got the bids for increasing the pipe size from the street to
>under the house, ripping out the wall all the way up (for the inspectors
>to inspect easily) run the pipe up to the kitchen and hook up. Oh, and
>permits, the city loves residents to pay large sums of money for
>permits. Well....10 years later we still have the electric stove.
>
>Maybe some day.
>
>It sounds nice as the original poster said to take out the electric and
>replace it with gas from the Sears sale, but for us it was much more
>complicated than just that.

When we purchased our cottage I was not happy that it was all electric
and I planned on having gas installed. The place came with a
Whirlpool smooth top. I hated it the first few times I used it but
quickly learned how it operated and now I love it. I have a gas stove
in our city place and it's fine but I prefer the smooth top. If I
were to spend 5 grand on a high end gas stove I'm sure I'd like that
more, but I'm not in a position to do that.

In my case converting to gas would have been crazy. We only spend
about 25% of our time there but still have to heat it. Our bill is so
cheap I don't think we'd live long enough to see any payback.

Lou

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:36:30 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
> wrote:

>
>What width is yours? Looking at it, I can't see where the grill is.
>
>Thanks.
>Dee Dee

Heya Dee Dee!!!!! I missed you.

Lou

On Aug 14, 4:01�pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> Janet wrote:
> > "Roughrider50" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> first of all I'm not a professional chef(or even a good cook) but I
> >> like to play in the kitchen & occasionally I surprise myself.
> >> Recently I've been toying with the idea of replacing my 25yr old
> >> Whirlpool range with �a new one.I can't decide between a gas or
> >> electric. My daughter has Kenmore electric(http://tinyurl.com/6pca4t)
> >> I'm really drawn toward. She loves it. Boils water fast, as compared
> >> to 1-1� on my old whirlpool. I grew up with gas stoves & really liked
> >> them.
> >> Sears is having a sale on Mon. & I need to decide which. TIA!
>
> > Gas, in a heartbeat.
>
> The interesting thing about gas is that one of the byproducts of a gas
> flame is water vapor. My guess is that it makes a difference in baked
> goods but I've not done any side by side comparisons nor have I read
> anything about this. My perception is that it does and I prefer an
> electric oven.

If you knew anything at all about cooking you're realize that the most
abundant by-product of cooking food is water, and had you not slept
your way through grade school general science you'd know that the
climate inside an oven while cooking food is no more or less humid
whether gas or electric.

"James Silverton" wrote:
> �Janet wrote:
> > "Roughrider50" wrote:
> >
> >> first of all I'm not a professional chef(or even a good cook)
> >> but I like to play in the kitchen & occasionally I surprise
> >> myself. Recently I've been toying with the idea of replacing my 25yr
> >> old Whirlpool range with �a new one.I can't decide
> >> between a gas or electric. My daughter has Kenmore electric(
> >>http://tinyurl.com/6pca4t) I'm really drawn toward. She loves it.
> >> Boils water fast, as
> >> compared to 1-1� on my old whirlpool. I grew up with gas
> >> stoves & really liked them. Sears is having a sale on Mon. & I need
> >> to decide which. TIA!
> > Gas, in a heartbeat.
>
> I wonder how many times this question has been asked without convincing
> anyone? �There are relative advantages and [dis]advantages to both!

List some disadvantages to gas cooking... if you can.

I'll even give you a hint; were there any advantage whatsoever to
electric cooking there wouldn't be any other than electric grills.

Gas is not the best way to cook everything (sometimes wood/charcoal is
better than gas), but electric is not the best way to cook anything...
okay, I'll give you microwaving. And induction cooking is really in
the same catagory as microwaving... and in fact microwaving is
better... that's why most folks own a microwave oven, hardly anyone
owns an induction cooker.

blake murphy wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:28:48 -0400, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> >> electric to gas. After using an electric for most of the last 30 yrs,
I
> >> finally get back to gas (propane) and am not exactly thrilled to tears
> >> (well, almost but not like you might think). First, it's almost
> >> impossible
> >> to get down to a low enough heat. Any attempt to do so has the flame
> >> sputtering back and forth between still-too-hot and off. Never a
problem
> >> with electric.
> >
> > What you need is a different gas range. Mine will get down to 750 Btu,
just
> > the tiniest bit of even flame. All ranges are not created equal, no
matter
> > the fuel.
>
> or invest in a flame-tamer.


As a flamer that's the last thing in which I'd invest...


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Sheldon wrote:

On Aug 14, 4:01?pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> Janet wrote:
> > "Roughrider50" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> first of all I'm not a professional chef(or even a good cook) but I
> >> like to play in the kitchen & occasionally I surprise myself.
> >> Recently I've been toying with the idea of replacing my 25yr old
> >> Whirlpool range with ?a new one.I can't decide between a gas or
> >> electric. My daughter has Kenmore electric(http://tinyurl.com/6pca4t)
> >> I'm really drawn toward. She loves it. Boils water fast, as compared
> >> to 1-1? on my old whirlpool. I grew up with gas stoves & really liked
> >> them.
> >> Sears is having a sale on Mon. & I need to decide which. TIA!
>
> > Gas, in a heartbeat.
>
> The interesting thing about gas is that one of the byproducts of a gas
> flame is water vapor. My guess is that it makes a difference in baked
> goods but I've not done any side by side comparisons nor have I read
> anything about this. My perception is that it does and I prefer an
> electric oven.

If you knew anything at all about cooking you're realize that the most
abundant by-product of cooking food is water, and had you not slept
your way through grade school general science you'd know that the
climate inside an oven while cooking food is no more or less humid
whether gas or electric.
----------------------

GM replies:

They prolly thought electric was a "dry" heat, lol...


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notbob wrote:

> Having said that, I must relate my disapointment with my recent change from
> electric to gas. After using an electric for most of the last 30 yrs, I
> finally get back to gas (propane) and am not exactly thrilled to tears
> (well, almost but not like you might think). First, it's almost impossible
> to get down to a low enough heat. Any attempt to do so has the flame
> sputtering back and forth between still-too-hot and off.

When I cooked with gas, heat diffusers worked very well.

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/pDetail.asp?i=16&p=565

Becca

On 2008-08-15, Becca > wrote:

> When I cooked with gas, heat diffusers worked very well.

I find quality cookware serves the same purpose. Any cookware with a large
copper or aluminum plate on the bottom of the pan to evenly distribute heat
will work fine. The downside is expense, as these better pots and pans are
not cheap. Of course, quality is quality, regardless of the heating medium.

nb

On Fri 15 Aug 2008 10:11:54a, Gregory Morrow told us...

>
> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:28:48 -0400, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> > "notbob" > wrote in message
>> >> electric to gas. After using an electric for most of the last 30
yrs,
>> >> I finally get back to gas (propane) and am not exactly thrilled to
>> >> tears (well, almost but not like you might think). First, it's
almost
>> >> impossible to get down to a low enough heat. Any attempt to do so
has
>> >> the flame sputtering back and forth between still-too-hot and off.
>> >> Never a problem with electric.
>> >
>> > What you need is a different gas range. Mine will get down to 750 Btu,
>> > just the tiniest bit of even flame. All ranges are not created equal,
>> > no matter the fuel.
>>
>> or invest in a flame-tamer.
>
>
> As a flamer that's the last thing in which I'd invest...
>
>

Do not sit on one! Your career would be over! :-)

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On Aug 15, 5:37 am, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Aug 14, 4:01 pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Janet wrote:
> > > "Roughrider50" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > >> first of all I'm not a professional chef(or even a good cook) but I
> > >> like to play in the kitchen & occasionally I surprise myself.
> > >> Recently I've been toying with the idea of replacing my 25yr old
> > >> Whirlpool range with a new one.I can't decide between a gas or
> > >> electric. My daughter has Kenmore electric(http://tinyurl.com/6pca4t)
> > >> I'm really drawn toward. She loves it. Boils water fast, as compared
> > >> to 1-1 on my old whirlpool. I grew up with gas stoves & really liked
> > >> them.
> > >> Sears is having a sale on Mon. & I need to decide which. TIA!
>
> > > Gas, in a heartbeat.
>
> > The interesting thing about gas is that one of the byproducts of a gas
> > flame is water vapor. My guess is that it makes a difference in baked
> > goods but I've not done any side by side comparisons nor have I read
> > anything about this. My perception is that it does and I prefer an
> > electric oven.
>
> If you knew anything at all about cooking you're realize that the most
> abundant by-product of cooking food is water, and had you not slept
> your way through grade school general science you'd know that the
> climate inside an oven while cooking food is no more or less humid
> whether gas or electric.

Sorry pal, I'm unable to believe any old absolutist statement that
comes out of your piehole. If you're saying that your perception is
that that there's no difference in the humidity in a gas or electric
stove, we don't have any problem. If you claim that this is a fact -
please back it up. I grew up with a gas stove and am quite able to
recognize steam when I feel it. Also recognize that science in general
does not rely on making statements without any proof.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:40:14 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>> Ah, geez -- looking at the 48" model is better than having an
>> orgasm.
>
>Your standards are like what Joseph Henry Shorthouse (1834-1903) said
>about Wordsworth’s admission that he might have gotten drunk at
>Cambridge: “In all probability, Wordsworth’s standard of intoxication
>was miserably low’ “

Well, of course -- you people in Potomac probably have Bertazzonis in all three
kitchens, as well as the servants' quarters. 8

>My sympathies!

Thanks...

-- Larry

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

>While a stretch of the budget, we figured it is the last stove we will ever
>buy so why not get the best possible. It had the features we wanted, the
>powerful burners, the grid over the top, sealed burners etc. So we bought.

I did similar two years ago. Re-did the entire kitchen and tossed out
the old cheapo Sears electric range that was there when we moved in.

Hated electric (tho I'd learned to cope) and was determined to get
back to gas cooking. Did my research and bought a Blue Star cooktop
with two (count 'em) 22,000 btu burners, a 15,000 btu burner and an
8,000 btu simmer burner. The clincher for me was the high btu burners.

The cooktop, electric oven and the heavy-duty Broan hood I installed
took me well over my original budget but like Ed, I figured this is
the last kitchen I'll ever have so why not go for broke.

I absolutely love the whole setup and would do it all again in a
heartbeat.

LeeBat
spending the kids' inheritance .....

In article >,
says...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
> >While a stretch of the budget, we figured it is the last stove we will ever
> >buy so why not get the best possible. It had the features we wanted, the
> >powerful burners, the grid over the top, sealed burners etc. So we bought.
>
> I did similar two years ago. Re-did the entire kitchen and tossed out
> the old cheapo Sears electric range that was there when we moved in.
>
> Hated electric (tho I'd learned to cope) and was determined to get
> back to gas cooking. Did my research and bought a Blue Star cooktop
> with two (count 'em) 22,000 btu burners, a 15,000 btu burner and an
> 8,000 btu simmer burner. The clincher for me was the high btu burners.
>
> The cooktop, electric oven and the heavy-duty Broan hood I installed
> took me well over my original budget but like Ed, I figured this is
> the last kitchen I'll ever have so why not go for broke.
>
> I absolutely love the whole setup and would do it all again in a
> heartbeat.
>
> LeeBat
> spending the kids' inheritance .....
>

Interesting that you did gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven.
That's what I'd prefer too. I find that in an oven electric has far more
accurate temperature control for some reason.

"T" > wrote in message
>
> Interesting that you did gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven.
> That's what I'd prefer too. I find that in an oven electric has far more
> accurate temperature control for some reason.
>
It is easier to built in the thermostats and controls with electric, but
quality gas ranges are equally accurate. In the pas tit was not uncommon for
gas ovens to swing 50 degrees.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Fri 15 Aug 2008 10:11:54a, Gregory Morrow told us...
>
> >
> > blake murphy wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:28:48 -0400, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> >> >> electric to gas. After using an electric for most of the last 30
> yrs,
> >> >> I finally get back to gas (propane) and am not exactly thrilled to
> >> >> tears (well, almost but not like you might think). First, it's
> almost
> >> >> impossible to get down to a low enough heat. Any attempt to do so
> has
> >> >> the flame sputtering back and forth between still-too-hot and off.
> >> >> Never a problem with electric.
> >> >
> >> > What you need is a different gas range. Mine will get down to 750
Btu,
> >> > just the tiniest bit of even flame. All ranges are not created
equal,
> >> > no matter the fuel.
> >>
> >> or invest in a flame-tamer.
> >
> >
> > As a flamer that's the last thing in which I'd invest...
> >
> >
>
> Do not sit on one! Your career would be over! :-)


Heh, gotta keep the "troops" entertained, ya know...

;-D


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On Sat 16 Aug 2008 12:46:48p, Gregory Morrow told us...

>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Fri 15 Aug 2008 10:11:54a, Gregory Morrow told us...
>>
>> >
>> > blake murphy wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:28:48 -0400, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "notbob" > wrote in message
>> >> >> electric to gas. After using an electric for most of the last 30
>> >> >> yrs, I finally get back to gas (propane) and am not exactly
>> >> >> thrilled to tears (well, almost but not like you might think).
>> >> >> First, it's almost impossible to get down to a low enough heat.
>> >> >> Any attempt to do so has the flame sputtering back and forth
>> >> >> between still-too-hot and off. Never a problem with electric.
>> >> >
>> >> > What you need is a different gas range. Mine will get down to 750
>> >> > Btu, just the tiniest bit of even flame. All ranges are not
>> >> > created equal, no matter the fuel.
>> >>
>> >> or invest in a flame-tamer.
>> >
>> >
>> > As a flamer that's the last thing in which I'd invest...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Do not sit on one! Your career would be over! :-)
>
>
> Heh, gotta keep the "troops" entertained, ya know...
>
> ;-D
>
>

:-)

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