"mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in

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> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is
> $299. The Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2
> quart stand mixer item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping,
> yada yada). The item on the Sears outlet website states that
> it is a returned item, and should have thestainless steel
> bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough hook. Does anyone
> have experience with this particular item? And, would you
> purchase it from the ebay site?
>
> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in
> the usa from a to z)..or so i'm told)

KitchenAid KSM100PSWW Ultra Power Plus 4.5 quart Stand Mixer
$230.00
http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KSM...Ultra-Pouring-
Shield/dp/B000H8IDYU

The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
would you purchase it from the ebay site?

Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
from a to z)..or so i'm told)

mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>
> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>
> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
> from a to z)..or so i'm told)

The 5-quart, $299 KA model is most likely the "Artisan" style of stand
mixer. The 4.5-quart model (probably the "Classic" style) is not the
same as the $299 model, nor is it as robust as the "Artisan". The
wattage for the motors is also different between the two. Take it from
there and decide.

Sky, who has an "Artisan" KA stand mixer and loves it

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On Fri 15 Aug 2008 04:31:36p, Sky told us...

> mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>>
>> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
>> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
>> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
>> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
>> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>>
>> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>> from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>
> The 5-quart, $299 KA model is most likely the "Artisan" style of stand
> mixer. The 4.5-quart model (probably the "Classic" style) is not the
> same as the $299 model, nor is it as robust as the "Artisan". The
> wattage for the motors is also different between the two. Take it from
> there and decide.
>
> Sky, who has an "Artisan" KA stand mixer and loves it
>

Curious... How does that compare to the older K5 model, which I've had
since 1972? I love it, and it has never given me a problem. Of course,
they were made by Hobart then.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Fri 15 Aug 2008 04:31:36p, Sky told us...
>
> > mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
> >>
> >> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
> >> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> >> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
> >> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> >> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> >> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
> >> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
> >>
> >> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
> >> from a to z)..or so i'm told)
> >
> > The 5-quart, $299 KA model is most likely the "Artisan" style of stand
> > mixer. The 4.5-quart model (probably the "Classic" style) is not the
> > same as the $299 model, nor is it as robust as the "Artisan". The
> > wattage for the motors is also different between the two. Take it from
> > there and decide.
> >
> > Sky, who has an "Artisan" KA stand mixer and loves it
> >
>
> Curious... How does that compare to the older K5 model, which I've had
> since 1972? I love it, and it has never given me a problem. Of course,
> they were made by Hobart then.

I have no clue! I bought my KA "Artisan" stand mixer mainly so I could
make cheese straws (go figure). I bought it from BB&B where I found one
with a price tag of $265 (they were still $299 two/three years ago,
too), and I also had a 20%-off coupon, so I snagged that puppy for a
little more than $200 plus sales tax.

Sky, who was a happy shopping camper

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"mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
...
> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>
> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
> from a to z)..or so i'm told)

Consider what you want to do with it. That is a light duty mixer with a
small bowl. If you intend to use it for baking it would be fine but if that
includes a lot of breads, you'll probably not have good luck with it. I
went with the beats, the Pro 6. I got it refurbed for about 250.00. It can
do anything I throw at it including 2 pounds of bread dough.

Paul

On Fri 15 Aug 2008 05:54:25p, Sky told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Fri 15 Aug 2008 04:31:36p, Sky told us...
>>
>> > mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299.
The
>> >> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>> >> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
>> >> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and
should
>> >> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>> >> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
>> >> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>> >>
>> >> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>> >> from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>> >
>> > The 5-quart, $299 KA model is most likely the "Artisan" style of stand
>> > mixer. The 4.5-quart model (probably the "Classic" style) is not the
>> > same as the $299 model, nor is it as robust as the "Artisan". The
>> > wattage for the motors is also different between the two. Take it
from
>> > there and decide.
>> >
>> > Sky, who has an "Artisan" KA stand mixer and loves it
>> >
>>
>> Curious... How does that compare to the older K5 model, which I've had
>> since 1972? I love it, and it has never given me a problem. Of course,
>> they were made by Hobart then.
>
> I have no clue! I bought my KA "Artisan" stand mixer mainly so I could
> make cheese straws (go figure). I bought it from BB&B where I found one
> with a price tag of $265 (they were still $299 two/three years ago,
> too), and I also had a 20%-off coupon, so I snagged that puppy for a
> little more than $200 plus sales tax.
>
> Sky, who was a happy shopping camper
>

I have no clue either! I know that I paid $180 or $185 for mine in 1972.
At that time they basically offered only two models, the K45 which has the
twist lock bowl, and the K5 which has the bowl lift.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.247...
>
> I have no clue either! I know that I paid $180 or $185 for mine in 1972.
> At that time they basically offered only two models, the K45 which has the
> twist lock bowl, and the K5 which has the bowl lift.
>
>
I have my grandmother's old KA that has the twist lock bowl, and my mom has
the lift one, but it's only about 5 years old. I like mine better. This is
one appliance that seems to last forever.

On Fri 15 Aug 2008 06:28:43p, Cheryl told us...

> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 5.247...
>>
>> I have no clue either! I know that I paid $180 or $185 for mine in
>> 1972. At that time they basically offered only two models, the K45
>> which has the twist lock bowl, and the K5 which has the bowl lift.
>>
>>
> I have my grandmother's old KA that has the twist lock bowl, and my mom
> has the lift one, but it's only about 5 years old. I like mine better.
> This is one appliance that seems to last forever.

That's probably because yours was made by Hobart and your mother's was made
by Whirlpool. Regardless of bowl design, the old KAs were built better.
My grandmother had one that was so old it had a glass twist lock bowl. My
cousin has it now and is still using it regularly. I think it was built in
the 1940s or so.

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"mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
...
> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
> would you purchase it from the ebay site?

If it is a legit seller, yes, I'd buy it.

On Aug 15, 9:06�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. �The
> > Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> > item for �about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). �The item on
> > the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> > have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> > hook. �Does anyone have experience with this particular item? �And,
> > would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>
> > Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
> > from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>
> Consider what you want to do with it. �That is a light duty mixer with a
> small bowl. �If you intend to use it for baking it would be fine but if that
> includes a lot of breads, you'll probably not have good luck with it. �I
> went with the beats, the Pro 6. �I got it refurbed for about 250.00. �It can
> do anything I throw at it including 2 pounds of bread dough.

Unless you're handicapped what's the big deal about kneading 2 pounds
of dough by hand... that's like kneading a couple small loaves worth
or a pair of B cups.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Aug 15, 9:06�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> > "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
> >
> > ....

> >
> > Consider what you want to do with it. �That is a light duty mixer with a
> > small bowl. �If you intend to use it for baking it would be fine but if that
> > includes a lot of breads, you'll probably not have good luck with it. �I
> > went with the beats, the Pro 6. �I got it refurbed for about 250.00. �It can
> > do anything I throw at it including 2 pounds of bread dough.
>
> Unless you're handicapped what's the big deal about kneading 2 pounds
> of dough by hand... that's like kneading a couple small loaves worth
> or a pair of B cups.

i havve arthritis in both hands, (from being shackled to a cash
register for over 20 years, when I owned the 24/7 store), therefore
kneading the dough for bread has become difficult. the B cups are not
the problem, Sheldon.

Thanks to everyone for their input.

Harriet & critter ( J J the world famous jack russell terrior)

On Aug 16, 2:40�am, "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 9:06 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> > > "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
>
> > ....
>
> > > Consider what you want to do with it. That is a light duty mixer with a
> > > small bowl. If you intend to use it for baking it would be fine but if that
> > > includes a lot of breads, you'll probably not have good luck with it. I
> > > went with the beats, the Pro 6. I got it refurbed for about 250.00. It can
> > > do anything I throw at it including 2 pounds of bread dough.
>
> > Unless you're handicapped what's the big deal about kneading 2 pounds
> > of dough by hand... that's like kneading a couple small loaves worth
> > or a pair of B cups.
>
> i havve arthritis in both hands, (from being shackled to a cash
> register for over 20 years, when I owned the 24/7 store), therefore
> kneading the dough for bread has become difficult.

I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". Actually
kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 15 Aug 2008 04:31:36p, Sky told us...
>
>> mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>>> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
>>> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>>> item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
>>> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
>>> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>>> hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
>>> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>>>
>>> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>>> from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>> The 5-quart, $299 KA model is most likely the "Artisan" style of stand
>> mixer. The 4.5-quart model (probably the "Classic" style) is not the
>> same as the $299 model, nor is it as robust as the "Artisan". The
>> wattage for the motors is also different between the two. Take it from
>> there and decide.
>>
>> Sky, who has an "Artisan" KA stand mixer and loves it
>>
>
> Curious... How does that compare to the older K5 model, which I've had
> since 1972? I love it, and it has never given me a problem. Of course,
> they were made by Hobart then.
>
I was just going to ask that very question! Not about 1972
specifically, but about the old Hobart models compared to the new
models.

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Cheryl wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 5.247...
>>
>> I have no clue either! I know that I paid $180 or $185 for mine in 1972.
>> At that time they basically offered only two models, the K45 which has
>> the
>> twist lock bowl, and the K5 which has the bowl lift.
>>
>>
> I have my grandmother's old KA that has the twist lock bowl, and my mom
> has the lift one, but it's only about 5 years old. I like mine better.
> This is one appliance that seems to last forever.

Does yours have the glass bowls? We had an really old one that
had such a (heavy) bowl. Unfortunately my sister got that and
promptly broke the bowl. I don't know what happened to the mixer.
I am pretty sure it is long gone though. Sniff.

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> That's probably because yours was made by Hobart and your mother's was made
> by Whirlpool. Regardless of bowl design, the old KAs were built better.
> My grandmother had one that was so old it had a glass twist lock bowl. My
> cousin has it now and is still using it regularly. I think it was built in
> the 1940s or so.
>
:-)

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Jean B. said...

>> My grandmother had one that was so old it had a glass twist lock bowl.
>> My cousin has it now and is still using it regularly. I think it was
>> built in the 1940s or so.


How were they built better then, when you can lifetime have them refurbish
any age unit today?

Made in America, thank God!

Andy

On Sat 16 Aug 2008 06:12:18a, Andy told us...

> Jean B. said...
>
>>> My grandmother had one that was so old it had a glass twist lock bowl.
>>> My cousin has it now and is still using it regularly. I think it was
>>> built in the 1940s or so.
>
>
> How were they built better then, when you can lifetime have them
> refurbish any age unit today?

The difference is that mine from 1972 will never need to be refurbished.

> Made in America, thank God!

Indeed!

> Andy
>



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Wayne Boatwright said...

> On Sat 16 Aug 2008 06:12:18a, Andy told us...
>
>> Jean B. said...
>>
>>>> My grandmother had one that was so old it had a glass twist lock bowl.
>>>> My cousin has it now and is still using it regularly. I think it was
>>>> built in the 1940s or so.
>>
>>
>> How were they built better then, when you can lifetime have them
>> refurbish any age unit today?
>
> The difference is that mine from 1972 will never need to be refurbished.
>
>> Made in America, thank God!
>
> Indeed!
>
>> Andy


Wayne,

Back when I was (--FAT--) I put the Kitchenaid mixer to better use.

Best,

Andy

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Cheryl wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 5.247...
>>>
>>> I have no clue either! I know that I paid $180 or $185 for mine in
>>> 1972.
>>> At that time they basically offered only two models, the K45 which has
>>> the
>>> twist lock bowl, and the K5 which has the bowl lift.
>>>
>>>
>> I have my grandmother's old KA that has the twist lock bowl, and my mom
>> has the lift one, but it's only about 5 years old. I like mine better.
>> This is one appliance that seems to last forever.
>
> Does yours have the glass bowls? We had an really old one that had such a
> (heavy) bowl. Unfortunately my sister got that and promptly broke the
> bowl. I don't know what happened to the mixer. I am pretty sure it is
> long gone though. Sniff.

No, stainless bowl. I have a second smaller/shallower bowl that fits it,
too. When my mom replaced her old one, she gave it to my sister but had
more bowls for it than my sister needed, so I got one of them.

Sheldon wrote:
> I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". Actually
> kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
> hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
> years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
> age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.

It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the joints
are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress. Kneading
dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.

<my shoulders, too>

Pennyaline wrote:
>
> Sheldon wrote:
> > I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". Actually
> > kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
> > hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
> > years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
> > age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.
>
> It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the joints
> are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress. Kneading
> dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.
>
> <my shoulders, too>

Sheldon tends to assume and presume too much too often. Er, or is that
too often too much???

Sky, who shoud've .... er, or is that shouldn't have ..... !!!

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On Aug 16, 10:30�pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". �Actually
> > kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
> > hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
> > years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
> > age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.
>
> It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the joints
> are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress. Kneading
> dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.
>
> <my shoulders, too>

Well, then unfortunately you think of yourself as handicapped, and
probably have for a long time. Any medical doctor will tell you that
osteo responds well to movement, breaks up the arthritis deposits and
the human body has the remarkable ability of ridding itself of the
debris. It's not a cure but it will slow down the progression and
your joints will feel better. It's never too late, knead smaller
batches and go more slowly. Some squeeze a rubber ball or those gel
filled thingies, but nothing is as beneficial as kneading dough.
Doing nothing is not a good thing... no pain, no gain.

On Aug 17, 3:28�am, Sky > wrote:
> Pennyaline wrote:
>
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > > I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". �Actually
> > > kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
> > > hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
> > > years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
> > > age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.
>
> > It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the joints
> > are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress. Kneading
> > dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.
>
> > <my shoulders, too>
>
> Sheldon tends to assume and presume too much too often. �Er, or is that
> too often too much???
>
> Sky, who shoud've .... er, or is that shouldn't have ..... �!!!

Obviously your handicap is osteocerebral... someone needs to squeeze
your head.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Aug 16, 10:30�pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". �Actually
>>> kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo arthritic
>>> hands, which is what you have if as you say it developed from over 20
>>> years of cash registar use, everyone gets osteo arthritis as they
>>> age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be helped by exercise.
>> It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the joints
>> are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress. Kneading
>> dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.
>>
>> <my shoulders, too>
>
> Well, then unfortunately you think of yourself as handicapped, and
> probably have for a long time. Any medical doctor will tell you that
> osteo responds well to movement, breaks up the arthritis deposits and
> the human body has the remarkable ability of ridding itself of the
> debris. It's not a cure but it will slow down the progression and
> your joints will feel better. It's never too late, knead smaller
> batches and go more slowly. Some squeeze a rubber ball or those gel
> filled thingies, but nothing is as beneficial as kneading dough.
> Doing nothing is not a good thing... no pain, no gain.

Who besides you says I do nothing? I *am* "handicapped," dear, but by
COPD and not arthritis. And even if you don't choose to recognize my
experience as my own, kneading bread still hurts my hands like hell.

And Sheldon, there's simply no need to tell me what "any medical doctor
will tell you." I deal with medicine and medical issues in greater depth
than you do, and I don't wait around for your or their opinions on
anything (even though they think I'm supposed to... some docs just never
learn ;p )

<wait'll they find out I'm working on my NP... that'll get 'em!>

On Aug 15, 6:12*pm, "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote:
> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. *The
> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
> item for *about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). *The item on
> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
> hook. *Does anyone have experience with this particular item? *And,
> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>
> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
> from a to z)..or so i'm told)

Many of the Ebay sites that have appliances like this sell "factory
reconditioned" ones. I would never buy from a source like this,
myself. What kind of a warranty does it have?

I notice even Amazon has tons of reconditioned stuff. I wouldn't buy
those from them, either.

N.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:21:24 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 wrote:

> On Aug 15, 6:12*pm, "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote:
>> The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. *The
>> Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>> item for *about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). *The item on
>> the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
>> have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>> hook. *Does anyone have experience with this particular item? *And,
>> would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>>
>> Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>> from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>
> Many of the Ebay sites that have appliances like this sell "factory
> reconditioned" ones. I would never buy from a source like this,
> myself. What kind of a warranty does it have?
>
> I notice even Amazon has tons of reconditioned stuff. I wouldn't buy
> those from them, either.
>
> N.

not sure about e-bay item sold by the owner, but most refurbished items
come with a standard warranty.

your pal,
blake

Sheldon wrote:

> On Aug 17, 3:28�am, Sky > wrote:
>> Pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> > Sheldon wrote:
>> > > I did qualify by saying "unless you're handicapped". �Actually
>> > > kneading dough is an excellent physical therapy for osteo
>> > > arthritic hands, which is what you have if as you say it
>> > > developed from over 20 years of cash registar use, everyone gets
>> > > osteo arthritis as they age... rhumatoid arthritis can't be
>> > > helped by exercise.
>>
>> > It may be excellent therapy for osteoarthritis, but only if the
>> > joints are still capable of dealing with that movement and stress.
>> > Kneading dough hurts my hands like blazes even on my best days.
>>
>> > <my shoulders, too>
>>
>> Sheldon tends to assume and presume too much too often. �Er, or is
>> that too often too much???
>>
>> Sky, who shoud've .... er, or is that shouldn't have ..... �!!!
>
> Obviously your handicap is osteocerebral... someone needs to squeeze
> your head.

Well, it's better than being 'pekkerimpared', and no, I'm not offering
to squeeze it either...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:12:56 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
> wrote:

>The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
>Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
>the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
>have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
>would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>
>Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>from a to z)..or so i'm told)

For what it's worth...

How was the refurbished mixer used before it was refurbished?

For food, right? Well, maybe.

I have a 4.5 and a 6 quart KA in my laboratory. They are used to mix
solid rocket propellant.

Best -- Terry
....and they do a durn good job, too!...

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0500, Terry wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:12:56 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
> > wrote:
>
>>The regular price for the kitchenaid 5 quart stand mixer is $299. The
>>Sears outlet ebay store has the Kitchenaid 4 1/2 quart stand mixer
>>item for about $65.00 each (plust shipping, yada yada). The item on
>>the Sears outlet website states that it is a returned item, and should
>>have thestainless steel bowl, wire whip, flat beater, coated dough
>>hook. Does anyone have experience with this particular item? And,
>>would you purchase it from the ebay site?
>>
>>Harriet & critter (in hot & humid azusa, ca...everything in the usa
>>from a to z)..or so i'm told)
>
> For what it's worth...
>
> How was the refurbished mixer used before it was refurbished?
>
> For food, right? Well, maybe.
>
> I have a 4.5 and a 6 quart KA in my laboratory. They are used to mix
> solid rocket propellant.
>
I've read often on abr that KAs tend to overheat. Isn't that a hazard?
Graham

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:21:37 GMT, Graham > wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0500, Terry wrote:

>> For what it's worth...
>>
>> How was the refurbished mixer used before it was refurbished?
>>
>> For food, right? Well, maybe.
>>
>> I have a 4.5 and a 6 quart KA in my laboratory. They are used to mix
>> solid rocket propellant.
>>
>I've read often on abr that KAs tend to overheat. Isn't that a hazard?
>Graham

Doesn't seem to be, the mixture is somewhere between cookie dough and
thick cake batter in consistency (ok, there's the food tie-in). I've
run the mixers for half an hour to an hour at a time, they get fairly
warm but not too hot to touch. The propellant I make is amazingly
difficult to ignite. Heat from a mixer is unlikely to do much to the
mix.

Best -- Terry