"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:00:22 -0400, Nina >
> wrote:
>
>>>That probably would eliminate ever eating out again.........at any
>>>place.
>>
>>Unfortunately, that's pretty much true; we virtually never eat fast
>>food these days.
>
> I never metioned "fast food"....I said AT ANY PLACE.
>
>

Is it...

Could it be...

The ghost of Jerry Sauk?



TFM®

>>> Back then that was real family food. Now KFC is about as vile crap as I
>>> can
>>> think of.
>>>
>>> Find a Popeye's.
>>
>> Popeye's is not much better. I love their red beans and rice (which they
>> claim has won awards), but it is salty beyond belief. The LAST time I
>> patronized Popeye's, I ordered their collard greens, much to my distress,
>> literally. Never again.
>>
>> nb
>
> Maybe you have to go to one in a lower class neighborhood if you get my
> drift.
>
> I've never had bad Popeye's chicken. Church's on the other hand...
> I'm glad to see them going the way of the buffalo in the Tampa area.
>
>
> TFM®

We actually have three Popeye's chicken places near our home to chose from.
While there are still Church's in the Houston area the Church's chicken
places near us are closed. No loss!

My husband used to stop at a Popeye's on the way home from work and one time
the guy in front of him said "don't give me no thighs, I don't want no
thighs!" When his order arrived he doubled-checked to make sure he didn't
get any. Wonder what the guy had against chicken thighs???

Maybe this is local, but every Tuesday Popeye's has a special. You can get
two pieces of chicken (a leg and a thigh) for 99 cents. Used to be 89
cents... inflation I guess. Anyway we do that occasionally. I figure that
at that price if you factor in labor, materials, mess, etc. that's less
expensive than I can make fried chicken at home. FWIW, we always get the
extra spicy and I make our own side dishes.

Chris

Nancy Young wrote:
> I think the slide started when Pepsico bought the chain.
> Before that I remember the product as being much better.
> I think that's when they started pushing that extra-breading ...
> I mean, extra-crispy stuff. All crispy, no chicken.
> nancy

I wonder why they think this will lead to continued profits?
Folks do catch on.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:25:45 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:
>
> > On Aug 15, 11:50 pm, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
> >> I've always expected the the ersatz margarine for the biscuit.
> >> Today I found a little packet of KFC honey. But it's NOT honey.
> >> It's the "Colonel's Honey Sauce".
> >
> > Any time the named ingredient is followed or preceded by a modifier,
> > you _know_ it ain't gonna be pure whatever. Even Juicy Juice which is
> > "100% real fruit juice" doesn't tell you til you get to the 4-pt type
> > that it's apple juice and a dozen other bits and sorts of fruit juices
> > to make ti taste horrible (to an adult, of course).
> >
> >
> >> That's it. No more KFC for this family. I'm gonna google to find the
> >> parent company and dump the whole lot!
> >>
> >> Lynn in Fargo
> >> Dammit. I really like their coleslaw.
> >
> > So?Buy their coleslaw and ignore the rest of the menu.
> >
> > maxine in ri
>
> or choke down the biscuit without the fake honey.


It's preferable to have a fake honey choke down yer "biscuit"...


--
Best
Greg

In article
>,
Lynn from Fargo > wrote:

> I've always expected the the ersatz margarine for the biscuit.
> Today I found a little packet of KFC honey. But it's NOT honey.
> It's the "Colonel's Honey Sauce".
>
> It comes in a little clear plastic squeeze packet and you cannot read
> the label without great difficulty. Under the word "Honey" in 36
> point three color type it says "sauce" in red outline 14 point type.
> On the back it lists the ingredients: High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar,
> Corn Syrup, Honey, Caramel Color.
>
> That's it. No more KFC for this family. I'm gonna google to find the
> parent company and dump the whole lot!
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Dammit. I really like their coleslaw.


LOL!! You go, Woman. Years ago I posted something about one of Arby's
(I think) packet sauces. Something maybe with 'berry' in the name.
WhatEVER it was, there was no fruit in it. Nothing but a bunch of
chemicals and thickeners.

Yeah, I noticed the Honey "sauce." Caveat emptor.
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Jean B. wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> I think the slide started when Pepsico bought the chain.
>> Before that I remember the product as being much better.
>> I think that's when they started pushing that extra-breading ...
>> I mean, extra-crispy stuff. All crispy, no chicken.

> I wonder why they think this will lead to continued profits?
> Folks do catch on.

You see it all the time. Watch out when your favorite old
brand suddenly has a new look ... guaranteed someone bought
them out and they will change the product for the worst. Like
you won't notice. Grrr.

nancy

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> I've always expected the the ersatz margarine for the biscuit.
> Today I found a little packet of KFC honey. But it's NOT honey.
> It's the "Colonel's Honey Sauce".
>
> It comes in a little clear plastic squeeze packet and you cannot read
> the label without great difficulty. Under the word "Honey" in 36
> point three color type it says "sauce" in red outline 14 point type.
> On the back it lists the ingredients: High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar,
> Corn Syrup, Honey, Caramel Color.
>
> That's it. No more KFC for this family. I'm gonna google to find the
> parent company and dump the whole lot!
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Dammit. I really like their coleslaw.

The folks here have been spreading that material on KFC biscuits for few
years. I expect that we'll be seeing jars of that substance on the
Safeway aisles soon. Special HI Tech Material - SHIT-MAT. :-)

Most boomers have fond memories of KFC from when their daddies would
bring home a bucket with the fixings. The chicken was tastier and juicer
back then. Your parents could afford it even with their meager pay. A
lot of KFC business must be from folks trying to relive their childhood.
I could go for some right now but we all know that you can't go back and
nowdays I find the food tough and dried out and cut into the strangest
pieces mostly and economically tough always. It'll cost me at least $30
to feed my small clan which we could afford but why do that if the food
sucks?

My guess is that KFC will see most of it's good days in Asia. The
Japanese consider KFC holiday food and it's considered traditional to
feast (?) on KFC during Xmas. Strange but true.

What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more addictive
that crack cocaine? :-)

Jean B. wrote:
>
> As I see it, the problem with places like KFC is that they start out
> with a good product and idea. They are popular in their locale because
> of that. Then they start expanding and cutting corners. They forget
> why they were popular in the first place. Eventually, that leads to
> their demise. (Somewhere along the line, too, the company may be sold
> to another entity, and that entity may do the cost-cutting, etc.)

The local KFC closed several years ago. They had been doing okay but
head office came came out with a policy that they had to have in store
seating. That would have meant massive expansion of the tiny outlet,
which BTW was next door to McDonalds, and that McDs is probably the
loweset selling McDs in the organization. I rarely see people in there,
and don't imagine KFC would have don any better. Oh well, no loss.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> A few weeks ago I stopped at a KFC that is near an
> amusement park. This is one busy place. I'll be darned,
> the chicken was the way I remembered it years ago.
> I was pleasantly surprised.

The difference between you and Dave Smith is that
he may have had the Extra Crispy. When that was
introduced, Harland Sanders called it a "fried
dough ball stuck to the bird".

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> A few weeks ago I stopped at a KFC that is near an
>> amusement park. This is one busy place. I'll be darned,
>> the chicken was the way I remembered it years ago.
>> I was pleasantly surprised.
>
> The difference between you and Dave Smith is that
> he may have had the Extra Crispy. When that was
> introduced, Harland Sanders called it a "fried
> dough ball stuck to the bird".

Haha, that's funny. Good description. Creeped me out a
little, where do they find those meatless chicken pieces.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> I think the slide started when Pepsico bought the chain.
>>> Before that I remember the product as being much better.
>>> I think that's when they started pushing that extra-breading ...
>>> I mean, extra-crispy stuff. All crispy, no chicken.
>
>> I wonder why they think this will lead to continued profits?
>> Folks do catch on.
>
> You see it all the time. Watch out when your favorite old
> brand suddenly has a new look ... guaranteed someone bought
> them out and they will change the product for the worst. Like
> you won't notice. Grrr.
> nancy

Judging by the seemed popularity of big box industrial places it is
likely only you, me and 5 other people who notice such things.

In article > ,
dsi1 > wrote:


> What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more addictive
> that crack cocaine? :-)

Sugar. Lots of sugar.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article > ,
> dsi1 > wrote:
>
>
>> What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more addictive
>> that crack cocaine? :-)
>
> Sugar. Lots of sugar.
>

I think you're right - the secret ingredient's always sugar, right? My
mother-in-law won't eat anything I give her, except, of course, KFC
coleslaw. That's just plan nutty!

On 2008-08-16, Nancy Young > wrote:

> Haha, that's funny. Good description. Creeped me out a
> little, where do they find those meatless chicken pieces.

Perhaps a cue from the McDs cookbook. Chicken McNuggets contained nothing
even remotely resembling actual chicken for most of it menu lifespan. Only
in the last decade did MDs change them from mystery grease sponge to
real chicken meat.

nb

On 2008-08-16, dsi1 > wrote:

> I think you're right - the secret ingredient's always sugar, right? My
> mother-in-law won't eat anything I give her, except, of course, KFC
> coleslaw. That's just plan nutty!

So, make an alternative that contains sugar. My pineapple/mustard coleslaw
dressing contains sugar, and it always meets with rave reviews.

nb

dsi1 wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article > ,
>> dsi1 > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more
>>> addictive that crack cocaine? :-)
>>
>> Sugar. Lots of sugar.
>>
>
> I think you're right - the secret ingredient's always sugar, right? My
> mother-in-law won't eat anything I give her, except, of course, KFC
> coleslaw. That's just plan nutty!


Does she think you're trying to poison her?
Is she right?
Do you have a reason for doing so?

;-)
gloria p

dsi1 wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article > ,
>> dsi1 > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more
>>> addictive that crack cocaine? :-)
>>
>> Sugar. Lots of sugar.
>>
>
> I think you're right - the secret ingredient's always sugar, right? My
> mother-in-law won't eat anything I give her, except, of course, KFC
> coleslaw. That's just plan nutty!

I believe they use mayo, vinegar, white sugar and pineapple juice in their
coleslaw mix.

kili

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-08-16, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> Haha, that's funny. Good description. Creeped me out a
>> little, where do they find those meatless chicken pieces.
>
> Perhaps a cue from the McDs cookbook. Chicken McNuggets contained
> nothing even remotely resembling actual chicken for most of it menu
> lifespan. Only in the last decade did MDs change them from mystery
> grease sponge to
> real chicken meat.

Oh, yuk. I thought maybe they were meat patties, for lack of a
better word. I must have had one years ago to have that idea.

nancy

>> Haha, that's funny. Good description. Creeped me out a
>> little, where do they find those meatless chicken pieces.
>
> Perhaps a cue from the McDs cookbook. Chicken McNuggets contained nothing
> even remotely resembling actual chicken for most of it menu lifespan.
> Only
> in the last decade did MDs change them from mystery grease sponge to
> real chicken meat.
>
> nb

Our dog wouldn't even eat them! Grandchildren brought them over to our
house and dropped some that we didn't know about. Fred (the dog) hid one
under my husband's pillow and when he was going to bed he tucked his arm
under pillow and discovered a McNugget. Yuk!!!

On 2008-08-17, Nancy Young > wrote:

> Oh, yuk. I thought maybe they were meat patties, for lack of a
> better word. I must have had one years ago to have that idea.

Not even remotely. I dissected a whole order once and found not a spec of
actual meat. I have no idea what they were. They looked like some sort of
spongey material covered with breading and deep pressure fried like most of
KFCs other grease globs. You could literally squeeze the grease out of them
....or just cover 'em in those grease-based sugar dips they came with and chew
happily away like my addicted daughter. :\

nb

Gloria P wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>> In article > ,
>>> dsi1 > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What the heck do they put in their coleslaw that makes it more
>>>> addictive that crack cocaine? :-)
>>>
>>> Sugar. Lots of sugar.
>>>
>>
>> I think you're right - the secret ingredient's always sugar, right? My
>> mother-in-law won't eat anything I give her, except, of course, KFC
>> coleslaw. That's just plan nutty!
>
>
> Does she think you're trying to poison her?
> Is she right?
> Do you have a reason for doing so?
>
> ;-)
> gloria p

I hope not.

Two words: Fifth Amendment

As far as I know, there's not a soul in the world that ever existed that
has had any reason whatsoever to ever put rat poison in their
mother-in-law's weekly dose of KFC coleslaw. That could never happen.
Ever. :-)

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Lynn from Fargo
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

<snip>

>That's it. No more KFC for this family. I'm gonna google to find the
>parent company and dump the whole lot!
>
>Lynn in Fargo
>Dammit. I really like their coleslaw.

Dunno if this will float your boat, but...

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Kentucky%20fried%20chicken's%20coleslaw

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Denay > wrote:

> Please, the next
> time you purchase dried herbs or spices, make sure they tell you what
> is in them. I recently purchased some Gumbo File and it was cut with
> thyme.

I would never has suspected they would water-down the sassafras with
a more expensive herb.

WTF are those ghanga-smoking ganga-smokers smoking?

I'd bet Emeril had something to do with this.

-sw

On Aug 16, 2:58*pm, TFM® > wrote:
> "Lynn from Fargo" > wrote in ...
>
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > OK Just to Clarify Something
>
> > I'm learning to live with Type II Diabetes. Thanks (really) to a few
> > folks on rfc, I have become much more aware of the KIND of sugar in
> > the foods I eat. *I am trying to avoid HFCS and corn sweetners for the
> > little amount of sweet I feel I can handle. I'm trying to stick to
> > cane sugar and beet sugar (beet sugar because we grow TONS of sugar
> > beets around here and there's a fairly responsible sugar refinery just
> > across the river.
>
> > I posted that about 2 minutes after I read that label. I have a
> > wannabe son-in-law who worked at KFC. I really have no illusions.
> > Besides I seem to remember something about rats in NYC.
>
> There are rats everywhere. *Hell, there's 2 living right beside me in a
> cage!
>
> That was Taco Bell BTW.
>
> TFM®

I have no problem with rats in a cage!
Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
Lynn

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>
> I have no problem with rats in a cage!
> Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
> Lynn

Our rats are Phideaux and Mickey. They love any kind of cheese, corn, peas,
crackers, cereal and that's about it. No flesh involved. :~)

kili

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:31:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>All the Popeye's around here closed a little over a year ago. Some were
>reopened as Church's.

We had a Church's near me years ago. It seemed to be very popular and
I actually liked their fried chicken. It closed (unexpectedly IMO)
and turned into a McDonald's.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>
>> I have no problem with rats in a cage!
>> Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
>> Lynn
>
> Our rats are Phideaux and Mickey. They love any kind of cheese, corn,
> peas, crackers, cereal and that's about it. No flesh involved. :~)
>
> kili
>

Ahem! They like pork rinds and head cheese.

TFM®

TFM® wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no problem with rats in a cage!
>>> Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Our rats are Phideaux and Mickey. They love any kind of cheese,
>> corn, peas, crackers, cereal and that's about it. No flesh
>> involved. :~) kili
>>
>
> Ahem! They like pork rinds and head cheese.
>
> TFM®

No, that's your diet, you silly man! They don't eat head cheese.

kili

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:12:55 -0400, kilikini wrote:

> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>
>> I have no problem with rats in a cage!
>> Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
>> Lynn
>
> Our rats are Phideaux and Mickey. They love any kind of cheese, corn, peas,
> crackers, cereal and that's about it. No flesh involved. :~)
>
> kili

that you *know* about. at night they bust out of the joint and go on a
rampage. sneaky *******s.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:01:44 -0400, TFM® wrote:

> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:00:22 -0400, Nina >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>That probably would eliminate ever eating out again.........at any
>>>>place.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, that's pretty much true; we virtually never eat fast
>>>food these days.
>>
>> I never metioned "fast food"....I said AT ANY PLACE.
>>
>>
>
> Is it...
>
> Could it be...
>
> The ghost of Jerry Sauk?
>

i didn't even know he was sick.

your pal,
blake

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:31:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> All the Popeye's around here closed a little over a year ago. Some were
>> reopened as Church's.
>
> We had a Church's near me years ago. It seemed to be very popular and
> I actually liked their fried chicken. It closed (unexpectedly IMO)
> and turned into a McDonald's.

There were two Church's near The Woodlands, one of them had a nice
buffet and I enjoyed going there for lunch. They make wonderful hot
yeast rolls. The other Church's was dirty and I never went back.

Becca

"kilikini" > wrote in news:g891em$ck$1
@news.datemas.de:

> They don't eat head cheese.
>
> kili
>

Well, not as far as you know...anyways.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:23:12 -0500, Becca >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:31:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> All the Popeye's around here closed a little over a year ago. Some were
>>> reopened as Church's.
>>
>> We had a Church's near me years ago. It seemed to be very popular and
>> I actually liked their fried chicken. It closed (unexpectedly IMO)
>> and turned into a McDonald's.
>
>There were two Church's near The Woodlands, one of them had a nice
>buffet and I enjoyed going there for lunch. They make wonderful hot
>yeast rolls. The other Church's was dirty and I never went back.
>
I guess it's one of those places that doesn't have much oversight....
meeting corporate standards and all that.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:01:44 -0400, TFM® wrote:
>
>> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:00:22 -0400, Nina >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>That probably would eliminate ever eating out again.........at any
>>>>>place.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately, that's pretty much true; we virtually never eat fast
>>>>food these days.
>>>
>>> I never metioned "fast food"....I said AT ANY PLACE.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is it...
>>
>> Could it be...
>>
>> The ghost of Jerry Sauk?
>>
>
> i didn't even know he was sick.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Yes. He died in February in a tragic accident at the Taco Bell drive
through.

TFM®

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-08-16, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> Haha, that's funny. Good description. Creeped me out a
>> little, where do they find those meatless chicken pieces.
>
> Perhaps a cue from the McDs cookbook. Chicken McNuggets contained nothing
> even remotely resembling actual chicken for most of it menu lifespan. Only
> in the last decade did MDs change them from mystery grease sponge to
> real chicken meat.
>
> nb

Speaking of that, what are those gluey, starchy, deep-fried orbs
one now gets in Chinese restaurants? They seem to have replaced
actual chunks of chicken in batter. One can only assume scraps of
chicken with much glue is cheaper, but yuck. Is that just a
Boston thing?

Also, there's all that kind-of uniformly thin-sliced chicken and
meat, obviously not done on the premises, and somehow inferior to
what used to be served....

--
Jean B.

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-08-17, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> Oh, yuk. I thought maybe they were meat patties, for lack of a
>> better word. I must have had one years ago to have that idea.
>
> Not even remotely. I dissected a whole order once and found not a spec of
> actual meat. I have no idea what they were. They looked like some sort of
> spongey material covered with breading and deep pressure fried like most of
> KFCs other grease globs. You could literally squeeze the grease out of them
> ...or just cover 'em in those grease-based sugar dips they came with and chew
> happily away like my addicted daughter. :\
>
> nb

Sounds kind-of like the Chinese nuggets, which I just described,
although there ARE little scraps of chicken in the spongy glue.

--
Jean B.

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:31:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> All the Popeye's around here closed a little over a year ago. Some were
>> reopened as Church's.
>
> We had a Church's near me years ago. It seemed to be very popular and
> I actually liked their fried chicken. It closed (unexpectedly IMO)
> and turned into a McDonald's.
>
>
Such an (un)welcome change. :-(

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:12:55 -0400, kilikini wrote:
>
>> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no problem with rats in a cage!
>>> Do they have names? What kind of cheeses do they prefer?
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Our rats are Phideaux and Mickey. They love any kind of cheese,
>> corn, peas, crackers, cereal and that's about it. No flesh
>> involved. :~)
>>
>> kili
>
> that you *know* about. at night they bust out of the joint and go on
> a rampage. sneaky *******s.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Is that where my cheese has been going???

kili <g>

Jean B. wrote:
>
> Speaking of that, what are those gluey, starchy, deep-fried orbs
> one now gets in Chinese restaurants? They seem to have replaced
> actual chunks of chicken in batter. One can only assume scraps of
> chicken with much glue is cheaper, but yuck. Is that just a
> Boston thing?
>

Honestly? I think it's battered, fried chicken skin. I'm not kidding.

kili

Jean B. wrote:

> Speaking of that, what are those gluey, starchy, deep-fried orbs
> one now gets in Chinese restaurants? They seem to have replaced
> actual chunks of chicken in batter. One can only assume scraps of
> chicken with much glue is cheaper, but yuck. Is that just a
> Boston thing?

If they offer white meat chicken (I assume you're talking about
General Tso or orange chicken, whatever) versions, best to order
that. Not because I'm a fan of white mean chicken, but because
the meat is identifiable.

nancy