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Googling overwhelmed me especially when I see the ingredient I don't
have. What I have are these: Chicken breast red onion yellow onion green bell pepper green onions tomoato (cherry as well as one other kind) chilli powder cumin powder dried black bean I do have some chilli sauce and stuff I do not have any cheese currently and I do not plan to buy. |
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On 2008-08-22, amandaF > wrote:
> Googling overwhelmed me especially when I see the ingredient I don't > have. What I have are these: > > Chicken breast > red onion > yellow onion > green bell pepper > green onions > tomoato (cherry as well as one other kind) > chilli powder > cumin powder > dried black bean What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. Third, if you change the dried black bean to fermented black bean and lose the cumin, it's Chinese stir-fry! Hell, let's jes call call cold mac and cheese, yellow jello, and a bowl of cold oatmeal and raisins, wheatberry compote. :P nb |
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notbob > wrote:
>What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a fajita is beef, >second, it's not a salad. I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. Steve |
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![]() "Steve Pope" > wrote in message ... > notbob > wrote: > >>What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a fajita is beef, >>second, it's not a salad. > > I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. > > Steve You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to be exact. "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named chicken tacos. TFM® - Purist. |
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TFM® > wrote:
>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message >> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. >You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to be exact. Could be. Wikipedia agrees with you, but only cites one source. Steve |
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![]() > "Steve Pope" > wrote in message > ... >> notbob > wrote: >> >>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a fajita is beef, >>> second, it's not a salad. >> >> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. >> >> Steve I believe those slices are called "rajas". A local restaurant which bills itself as "resort-style Mexican" makes a tasty dish called pollo con rajas. It's chicken layered with corn tortillas, peppers, and mild onions, in a very creamy, cheesy sauce and baked. It's very tasty. gloria p |
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Gloria wrote:
>>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. > > I believe those slices are called "rajas". > > A local restaurant which bills itself as "resort-style Mexican" > makes a tasty dish called pollo con rajas. It's chicken layered with corn > tortillas, peppers, and mild onions, in a very creamy, cheesy sauce and > baked. > > It's very tasty. I thought "pollo con rajas" was chicken cooked with tortillas which had been torn, kind of like chilaquiles with chicken and sauce in place of the beans. Bob |
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Gloria P > wrote:
>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. >I believe those slices are called "rajas". In my experience, rajas are in a sort of soupy sauce, rather than plain grilled pepper/onion slices. Steve |
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TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400:
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message > ... >> notbob > wrote: >> >>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >> >> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >> pepper/onion. >> >> Steve > You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to > be exact. > "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named > chicken tacos. However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both "chicken fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Michael wrote on Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:05:14 GMT:
>> TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400: >> >>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> notbob > wrote: >>>> >>>>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>>>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >>>> >>>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >>>> pepper/onion. >>>> >>>> Steve >> >>> You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to >>> be exact. >> >>> "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately >>> named chicken tacos. >> >> However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both >> "chicken fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! > If fajitas refer to a cut of meat how can other meats be > considered authentic fajitas? If fajita specifically refers > to beef, then chicken or shrimp in flour tortillas must refer > to something else. I can't find anything that says "fajita" is > a cooking method. It's kind of like the martini discussion I > got sucked into a year or 2 ago. To the purists if a martini > is not made with gin, it's not a martini. Ah, we lonely purists! A "vodka martini" is no worse than a regular one and "fajitas" are Tex-Mex, IMHO, and thus subject to English language usage :-) I'm probably beyond the pale like a lot of other people since I like Uncle Julio's (once Rio Grande)! -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton said...
> Michael wrote on Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:05:14 GMT: > >>> TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400: >>> >>>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> notbob > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>>>>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >>>>> >>>>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >>>>> pepper/onion. >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>> >>>> You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to >>>> be exact. >>> >>>> "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately >>>> named chicken tacos. >>> >>> However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both >>> "chicken fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! > >> If fajitas refer to a cut of meat how can other meats be >> considered authentic fajitas? If fajita specifically refers >> to beef, then chicken or shrimp in flour tortillas must refer >> to something else. I can't find anything that says "fajita" is >> a cooking method. It's kind of like the martini discussion I >> got sucked into a year or 2 ago. To the purists if a martini >> is not made with gin, it's not a martini. > > Ah, we lonely purists! A "vodka martini" is no worse than a regular one > and "fajitas" are Tex-Mex, IMHO, and thus subject to English language > usage :-) I'm probably beyond the pale like a lot of other people since > I like Uncle Julio's (once Rio Grande)! Fajitas are usually build your own served up with meat and onions and peppers and stuff neatly piled onto a sizzling cast iron (?) platter with a steamer full of hot soft tortillas. The default meat is skirt steak but chicken is an option. Along with the implied pitcher of beer or margaritas. I think if you add cheese and/or lettuce, it becomes a taco. Iirc, Andy |
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![]() "James Silverton" > wrote in message news:m8yrk.412$482.377@trnddc06... > TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400: > > >> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >> ... >>> notbob > wrote: >>> >>>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >>> >>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >>> pepper/onion. >>> >>> Steve > >> You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to >> be exact. > >> "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named >> chicken tacos. > > However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both "chicken > fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! Yeppers. Been there, seen that. Doesn't make it right, does it? They even sell snails under an assumed name. Fajitas is a cut of beef, there is no such thing as a boneless pork chop, barbecue is a noun, not a verb. TFM® |
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![]() "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message . .. > "James Silverton" > news:m8yrk.412$482.377 > @trnddc06: in rec.food.cooking > >> TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400: >> >> >>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> notbob > wrote: >>>> >>>>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>>>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >>>> >>>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >>>> pepper/onion. >>>> >>>> Steve >> >>> You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to >>> be exact. >> >>> "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named >>> chicken tacos. >> >> However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both "chicken >> fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! > > If fajitas refer to a cut of meat how can other meats be considered > authentic fajitas? If fajita specifically refers to beef, then chicken > or shrimp in flour tortillas must refer to something else. I can't find > anything that says "fajita" is a cooking method. It's kind of like the > martini discussion I got sucked into a year or 2 ago. To the purists if > a martini is not made with gin, it's not a martini. > > Michael <- stirring, not shaking ![]() > > > By definition, a martini is made with gin. Just because someone calls some sissy vodka drink a martini, it's not necessarily true. You can put cats in the oven, but that doesn't make them biscuits, does it? TFM® > -- > "No More Getting Jerked Around by the Gas Nozzle" > ~ Senator Larry Craig R-Idaho on Cspan-2 > > > To email - michael at lonergan dot us dot com |
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TFM® wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message > news:m8yrk.412$482.377@trnddc06... >> TFM® wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:42:56 -0400: >> >> >>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> notbob > wrote: >>>> >>>>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a >>>>> fajita is beef, second, it's not a salad. >>>> >>>> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of >>>> pepper/onion. >>>> >>>> Steve >> >>> You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to >>> be exact. >> >>> "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named >>> chicken tacos. >> >> However, you mustn't eat out much if you have not seen both "chicken >> fajitas" and "shrimp fajitas"! > > > Yeppers. Been there, seen that. Doesn't make it right, does it? They > even sell snails under an assumed name. > > Fajitas is a cut of beef, there is no such thing as a boneless pork > chop, barbecue is a noun, not a verb. > > TFM® Just curious... from what part of the cow? I've never seen a cut of beef at the supermarket (or the butcher shop, for that matter) marked "fajitas". Jill |
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TFM® wrote:
> > > "Steve Pope" > wrote in message > ... >> notbob > wrote: >> >>> What in the world is a chicken fajita salad? First, a fajita is beef, >>> second, it's not a salad. >> >> I think officially, fajitas refers to large slices of pepper/onion. >> >> Steve > > You would be incorrect. Fajitas are a cut of meat. Beef to be exact. > > "Chicken fajitas" (misnomer) would be more appropriately named chicken > tacos. > > > TFM® - Purist. Nope, I think that you are the one who is incorrect.... fa·ji·ta (f-ht) n. |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. >> TFM® > > Just curious... from what part of the cow? I've never seen a cut of beef > at the supermarket (or the butcher shop, for that matter) marked > "fajitas". > > Jill Skirt steak. http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...itaHistory.htm Dimitri |
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Dimitri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > . .. >>> TFM® >> >> Just curious... from what part of the cow? I've never seen a cut of >> beef at the supermarket (or the butcher shop, for that matter) marked >> "fajitas". >> >> Jill > > Skirt steak. > > http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...itaHistory.htm > > Dimitri Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew beef" or "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of cuts of beef from a cow marked "fajitas" ![]() Jill |
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jmcquown > wrote:
> Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew > beef" or "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of > cuts of beef from a cow marked "fajitas" ![]() I've seen "beef for fajitas" in the meat counter at Mexican markets. I had figured this was being marketed at pseudo Mexicans though. Steve |
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On 2008-08-22, Michael "Dog3" > wrote:
> martini discussion I got sucked into a year or 2 ago. To the purists if > a martini is not made with gin, it's not a martini. > > Michael <- stirring, not shaking ![]() sic 'em, dog! ![]() nb |
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On 2008-08-22, TFM® > wrote:
> You can put cats in the oven, but that doesn't make them biscuits, does it? Apparently it does to some desperate chefs or restaurateurs. If anyone protests, they call it "fusion". I call it crap. nb |
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![]() "Steve Pope" > wrote in message ... > jmcquown > wrote: > >> Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew >> beef" or "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of >> cuts of beef from a cow marked "fajitas" ![]() > > I've seen "beef for fajitas" in the meat counter at Mexican > markets. I had figured this was being marketed at > pseudo Mexicans though. > > Steve Not that's an interesting idea - What the hell is a pseudo Mexican? I suspect it's un norteAmericano a-gringado. ;-) Dimitrio |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. > Dimitri wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> . .. >>>> TFM® >>> >>> Just curious... from what part of the cow? I've never seen a cut of >>> beef at the supermarket (or the butcher shop, for that matter) marked >>> "fajitas". >>> >>> Jill >> >> Skirt steak. >> >> http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...itaHistory.htm >> >> Dimitri > > Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew beef" or > "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of cuts of beef from a > cow marked "fajitas" ![]() > > Jill IMHO London Broil is the biggest con-job in history. I'd like to have a dollar for every phone call I've had asking how to cook London Broil and have it come out tender. I think it's only good for making GROUND ROUND. Dimitri |
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On 2008-08-22, Steve Pope > wrote:
> I've seen "beef for fajitas" in the meat counter at Mexican > markets. I had figured this was being marketed at > pseudo Mexicans though. It's not only a specific cut of beef, it's a specific part of that cut, the inside skirt as opposed to the outside. The scam-mongers that will sell you a cut of pork called country-style ribs ....without a actual rib bone in sight.... will also sell you just about anything labeled just about anything. If you go to a good carniceria, you will find a very good, very identifiable, cut of beef. But, even a good carniceria will often sell you pre-marinated chicken based fajita mix with chicken, peppers, and onions and all, but they are marketers too and will also label and sell you whatever your little heart is willing to pay cash for, just like gringos. It's up to you. Like TFM said, if you are willing to buy dead cats to bake as biscuits, I'm sure someone will sell it to you. MMmmmm..... pop'n fresh cats! nb |
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On 2008-08-22, George Cebulka > wrote:
> [American Spanish, diminutive of faja, band, strip, from Latin fascia, > band...... Note the "band, strip", etc. The original was made with BEEF "strip" steak. Now, fajitas include everything from shrimp to kangaroo. No doubt there is a dog and cat version, too. Tell it to a Texan and he'll likely shoot your ass off (of which case we can have gringo-ass fajitas!). nb |
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On 2008-08-22, Dimitri > wrote:
> .......... served on a sizzling hot cast > iron pan or platter. Another yuppie affectation. nb |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2008-08-22, Dimitri > wrote: > >> .......... served on a sizzling hot cast >> iron pan or platter. > > Another yuppie affectation. > > nb Yep just like the Apple-chocolate-raspberry Martini...... LOL Dimitri |
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On 2008-08-22, Dimitri > wrote:
> Yep just like the Apple-chocolate-raspberry Martini...... > > LOL no kidding. Yeee-Ukkk! nb |
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I saw a grocery store selling it and I want to make what they made and
sell it for like 7.99 per lb. Quot arguing and can someone tells me how to make it with the ingredient I have? And I don't have the grill either. I have gas stove top. On Aug 21, 5:01 pm, amandaF > wrote: > Googling overwhelmed me especially when I see the ingredient I don't > have. What I have are these: > > Chicken breast > red onion > yellow onion > green bell pepper > green onions > tomoato (cherry as well as one other kind) > chilli powder > cumin powder > dried black bean > > I do have some chilli sauce and stuff > I do not have any cheese currently and I do not plan to buy. |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT), amandaF
> wrote: >On Aug 21, 5:01 pm, amandaF > wrote: >> Googling overwhelmed me especially when I see the ingredient I don't >> have. What I have are these: >> >> Chicken breast >> red onion >> yellow onion >> green bell pepper >> green onions >> tomoato (cherry as well as one other kind) >> chilli powder >> cumin powder >> dried black bean Amanda..this site might help you to get going on your recipe. You WILL need lime juice. http://www.thatsmyhome.com/texmex/main/M_Fajitas.htm I use this site all the time and create from their great recommendations. |
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TFM® wrote:
> By definition, a martini is made with gin. Just because someone calls > some sissy vodka drink a martini, it's not necessarily true. While I agree that a martini is made with gin, this is an argument you're never going to win. As soon as an incorrect usage gains popularity, it becomes correct. It won't be long before dictionaries start containing the entry that a martini is anything served in a martini glass. Dictionaries don't DEFINE words, they list how words are USED. And today's culture of "could-care-less" English speakers are thereby validated. Bob |
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Dimitri wrote:
> What the hell is a pseudo Mexican? > > I suspect it's un norteAmericano a-gringado. They're fairly easy to find. Just listen for the loud party on May 5th. Bob |
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![]() "Dimitri" > wrote in message ... > > "Steve Pope" > wrote in message > ... >> jmcquown > wrote: >> >>> Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew >>> beef" or "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of >>> cuts of beef from a cow marked "fajitas" ![]() >> >> I've seen "beef for fajitas" in the meat counter at Mexican >> markets. I had figured this was being marketed at >> pseudo Mexicans though. >> >> Steve > > Not that's an interesting idea - What the hell is a pseudo Mexican? It's a "Wannabeaner" TFM® |
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![]() "Dimitri" > wrote in message ... > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > . .. >> Dimitri wrote: >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> . .. >>>>> TFM® >>>> >>>> Just curious... from what part of the cow? I've never seen a cut of >>>> beef at the supermarket (or the butcher shop, for that matter) marked >>>> "fajitas". >>>> >>>> Jill >>> >>> Skirt steak. >>> >>> http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...itaHistory.htm >>> >>> Dimitri >> >> Ah, so is this like a supermarket labelling something "stew beef" or >> "London broil"? Because I've never seen a diagram of cuts of beef from a >> cow marked "fajitas" ![]() >> >> Jill > > IMHO London Broil is the biggest con-job in history. > > I'd like to have a dollar for every phone call I've had asking how to cook > London Broil and have it come out tender. > > I think it's only good for making GROUND ROUND. > > Dimitri > > Slice paper thin. Other than that, you are correct. TFM® |
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![]() "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message ... > TFM® wrote: > >> By definition, a martini is made with gin. Just because someone calls >> some sissy vodka drink a martini, it's not necessarily true. > > While I agree that a martini is made with gin, this is an argument you're > never going to win. As soon as an incorrect usage gains popularity, it > becomes correct. It won't be long before dictionaries start containing the > entry that a martini is anything served in a martini glass. Dictionaries > don't DEFINE words, they list how words are USED. And today's culture of > "could-care-less" English speakers are thereby validated. > > Bob I'll count you in on my list of friends, but my argument was won a long time ago. We drink martini's made with gin (and a glimpse of the vermouth bottle), We cook meat over coals derived from freshly cut trees. Said meat was freshly killed...by one of us. Salute, TFM® |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:41:40 -0400, TFM® wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> >> Not that's an interesting idea - What the hell is a pseudo Mexican? > > > It's a "Wannabeaner" > > TFM® <snort> nasty, but clever. your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:47:48 -0400, Billy wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT), amandaF > > wrote: > >>On Aug 21, 5:01 pm, amandaF > wrote: >>> Googling overwhelmed me especially when I see the ingredient I don't >>> have. What I have are these: >>> >>> Chicken breast >>> red onion >>> yellow onion >>> green bell pepper >>> green onions >>> tomoato (cherry as well as one other kind) >>> chilli powder >>> cumin powder >>> dried black bean > > Amanda..this site might help you to get going on your recipe. You > WILL need lime juice. > > http://www.thatsmyhome.com/texmex/main/M_Fajitas.htm > > > I use this site all the time and create from their great > recommendations. i'm a little skeptical. from the site: Easy Quesadillas 1/4 C. chipotle chile mayonnaise 3 T. chopped cilantro 1/2 t. ground cumin 8 (6-inch) flour tortillas 2/3 C. shredded Mexican cheese blend 1 can (2 1/4 ounces) sliced black olives (1/2 cup) In bowl, stir together mayonnaise, cilantro and cumin. Spread evenly over 4 tortillas. Sprinkle with cheese and olives. Top with remaining tortillas. [and more follows] chipotle mayonnaise for a quesadilla? frankly, it sounds pretty vile. your pal, blake |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:56:07 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote: >chipotle mayonnaise for a quesadilla? frankly, it sounds pretty vile. I guess that you will be skipping that recipe....aren't you glad that we can still choose. |
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