Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?

What say you?

Andy
Cheesesteak for now.

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>
> What say you?

Being a born and raised Philadelphian who has never been to Chicago, I
can't compare the two. I suspect Chicago's Italian Beef sandwich is
pretty tasty though.

Stan Horwitz said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>
> Being a born and raised Philadelphian who has never been to Chicago, I
> can't compare the two. I suspect Chicago's Italian Beef sandwich is
> pretty tasty though.


Stan,

I visited Chicago in 1985. Never had their famous Italian beef sandwich NOR
their famous deep dish pizza. ((

Best,

Andy
Remembers the wind!

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>
> What say you?
>
> Andy
> Cheesesteak for now.

Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!

beth thomas said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>>
>> Andy
>> Cheesesteak for now.
>
> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!


beth,

Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.

???

Right or wrong?

Lunch sometime?

Best,

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> beth thomas said...
>
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>
>>> What say you?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>
>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>
>
> beth,
>
> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>
> ???
>
> Right or wrong?
>
> Lunch sometime?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but the
best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers and
giardiniera.
http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25

and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
Beth

beth thomas said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> beth thomas said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>
>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>
>>
>> beth,
>>
>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Right or wrong?
>>
>> Lunch sometime?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but
> the best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers
> and giardiniera.
> http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>
> and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
> Beth


Beth,

Why would I be in Georgia if I was buying you lunch in Chicago?!?

Putting Georgia and YOU on My Mind!!!

Best,

Andy
Flirt (well known fact)

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> beth thomas said...
>
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>> beth thomas said...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>>
>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>>
>>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>>
>>>
>>> beth,
>>>
>>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>>> Right or wrong?
>>>
>>> Lunch sometime?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but
>> the best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers
>> and giardiniera.
>> http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>>
>> and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>> Beth
>
>
> Beth,
>
> Why would I be in Georgia if I was buying you lunch in Chicago?!?
>
> Putting Georgia and YOU on My Mind!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
> Flirt (well known fact)
>

Ha! Well, I don't make it to Chicago much, but my husband does, and you can
buy him lunch! I have to warn you, though, he is a big eater and does not
kiss on the first date....though for Portillo's you might get lucky.
;-)
Beth
....who appreciates being flirted with at any rate

Andy wrote:

> beth thomas said...
>
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>> beth thomas said...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>>
>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>>
>>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>>
>>>
>>> beth,
>>>
>>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>>> Right or wrong?
>>>
>>> Lunch sometime?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but
>> the best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers
>> and giardiniera.
>> http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>>
>> and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>> Beth
>
>
> Beth,
>
> Why would I be in Georgia if I was buying you lunch in Chicago?!?

Because she's no fun to be with?

--
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beth thomas wrote:

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> beth thomas said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>>> beth thomas said...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> beth,
>>>>
>>>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>> Right or wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Lunch sometime?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but
>>> the best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers
>>> and giardiniera.
>>> http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>>>
>>> and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>>> Beth
>>
>>
>> Beth,
>>
>> Why would I be in Georgia if I was buying you lunch in Chicago?!?
>>
>> Putting Georgia and YOU on My Mind!!!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>> Flirt (well known fact)
>>
>
> Ha! Well, I don't make it to Chicago much, but my husband does, and you can
> buy him lunch! I have to warn you, though, he is a big eater and does not
> kiss on the first date....though for Portillo's you might get lucky.

Just because he didn't kiss *you* on the first date doesn't mean...well,
you know.


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Andy said...

> Ha! Well, I don't make it to Chicago much, but my husband does, and you
> can buy him lunch! I have to warn you, though, he is a big eater and
> does not kiss on the first date....though for Portillo's you might get
> lucky. ;-)
> Beth
> ...who appreciates being flirted with at any rate


Beth,

So, you visit me in Philadelphia while he's in IL?

Andy
Pathetic Flirt (ask anyone!)

Blinky the Shark said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> beth thomas said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>>> beth thomas said...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> beth,
>>>>
>>>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>> Right or wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Lunch sometime?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great
pizza...but
>>> the best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet
peppers
>>> and giardiniera.
>>> http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>>>
>>> and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>>> Beth
>>
>>
>> Beth,
>>
>> Why would I be in Georgia if I was buying you lunch in Chicago?!?
>
> Because she's no fun to be with?


Gimme a woman named Beth and let me wrap my arms and legs around her!

She'll be in good hands.

Andy

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>
>What say you?
>
>Andy
````````````````

Never having eaten Chicago Italian Beef or even wanting to make any,
I'd say it's Cheesesteak for me. I can fake those really well with
deli meat!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:37:00 -0400, "beth thomas"
> wrote:

>
>"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> beth thomas said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> Cheesesteak for now.
>>>
>>> Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!
>>
>>
>> beth,
>>
>> Google shows up Portillo's hot dogs.
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Right or wrong?
>>
>> Lunch sometime?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
>Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but the
>best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers and
>giardiniera.
>http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>
>and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>Beth
>
$70 for four sandwiches? Ouch.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

said...

> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>>What say you?
>>
>>Andy
> ````````````````
>
> Never having eaten Chicago Italian Beef or even wanting to make any,
> I'd say it's Cheesesteak for me. I can fake those really well with
> deli meat!


sf,

I remember a "Lee's" cheesesteak fast food joint in Hollywood.

Come to Philly and let me treat you right!

<smootch>

Best,

Andy

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:49:58 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

> said...
>
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>>>Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>
>>>What say you?
>>>
>>>Andy
>> ````````````````
>>
>> Never having eaten Chicago Italian Beef or even wanting to make any,
>> I'd say it's Cheesesteak for me. I can fake those really well with
>> deli meat!
>
>
>sf,
>
>I remember a "Lee's" cheesesteak fast food joint in Hollywood.
>
>Come to Philly and let me treat you right!
>
><smootch>
>

Meet me under the Liberty Bell and we'll make it ring-a-ding-ding!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

said...

> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:49:58 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> said...
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>>>
>>>>What say you?
>>>>
>>>>Andy
>>> ````````````````
>>>
>>> Never having eaten Chicago Italian Beef or even wanting to make any,
>>> I'd say it's Cheesesteak for me. I can fake those really well with
>>> deli meat!
>>
>>
>>sf,
>>
>>I remember a "Lee's" cheesesteak fast food joint in Hollywood.
>>
>>Come to Philly and let me treat you right!
>>
>><smootch>
>>
>
> Meet me under the Liberty Bell and we'll make it ring-a-ding-ding!


OK!!! Sweep you out of PHL airport in the Jag!!! You have my number! Bring
the hubbie, what the heck!!! ))

<miles of smiles!>

Best,

Andy

Andy wrote:
>
> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>
> What say you?
>
> Andy
> Cheesesteak for now.



Will you be in Chicago?

Two major establishments which you can google for addresses:

Mr Beef
Al's Beef

Many other places such as Portillo's, serve superb beefs.

You order them with or without sweet or hot peppers, and more or less
"wet."

Wet refers to dunking it in the broth in which the meat is cooked.


We have a Philly cheese steak place in Chicago, which a friend from
Philly swears is quite authentic, and the Philly cheese steak was really
a heavy preparation. It was pretty good, though, but hard to finish.
While not at all "lite" cuisine in any way, Chicago beefs can actually
be finished off at one sitting.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:31:25 -0400, Stan Horwitz >
wrote:

>In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>
>Being a born and raised Philadelphian who has never been to Chicago, I
>can't compare the two. I suspect Chicago's Italian Beef sandwich is
>pretty tasty though.

Yes but they'll put you in concrete boots when you ask for the
ketchup.

Lo

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:20:34 -0400, "beth thomas"
> wrote:

>
>"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>>
>> Andy
>> Cheesesteak for now.
>
>Ooooh! Portillo's Italian beef!

Chicago mag just rated Portillo's the best Chicago dog. I don't think
the beef is all that good. I'm not a big fan or his anymore. The dog
is good, but didn't deserve top rating.

Lou

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:40:54 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:37:00 -0400, "beth thomas"
> wrote:

>>Portillo's makes a classic Chicago hot dog, as well as great pizza...but the
>>best (IMHO) is the Italian beef and gravy with lots of sweet peppers and
>>giardiniera.
>>http://www.portillos.com/store/item....PARTMENT_ID=25
>>
>>and hey, next time you are in GA swing by for lunch!
>>Beth
>>
>$70 for four sandwiches? Ouch.

Looking at mail order prices. As usual you're an idiot.

Lou

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:38:28 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>>What say you?
>>
>>Andy
>````````````````
>
>Never having eaten Chicago Italian Beef or even wanting to make any,
>I'd say it's Cheesesteak for me. I can fake those really well with
>deli meat!

I'm sure there's many things you can fake.

Lou

Lou Decruss said...

> Yes but they'll put you in concrete boots when you ask for the
> ketchup.
>
> Lo


Rightly so!!!

Andy

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:23:30 -0500, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
> wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>>
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>>
>> Andy
>> Cheesesteak for now.
>
>
>
>Will you be in Chicago?
>
>Two major establishments which you can google for addresses:
>
>Mr Beef
>Al's Beef
>
>Many other places such as Portillo's, serve superb beefs.
>
>You order them with or without sweet or hot peppers, and more or less
>"wet."
>
>Wet refers to dunking it in the broth in which the meat is cooked.

The dunking is not necessary. Portillo's doesn't do it. Legend has
it that started with a customer who needed a sandwich in a hurry and
it was dropped in the juice. Being in a hurry he said he'd take it
anyway. All they need is a spoon or two of juice drizzled on them.
Otherwise you've got a big mess that's no longer a sandwich but rather
something that needs a fork and knife. I make my own and serve them
with some juice on the side in a ramekin for dipping.

>We have a Philly cheese steak place in Chicago, which a friend from
>Philly swears is quite authentic, and the Philly cheese steak was really
>a heavy preparation. It was pretty good, though, but hard to finish.
>While not at all "lite" cuisine in any way, Chicago beefs can actually
>be finished off at one sitting.

Why is finishing it important? A little sandwich served from the 3
places you mentioned is more of a ripoff as those corned beef
sandwiches for 15 bucks at the jewish deli in New York.

The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
the store.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester

Unfortunately for Paul my beef blows his and all the others away.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:

> The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
> suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
> 12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
> usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
> the store.
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester
>
> Unfortunately for Paul my beef blows his and all the others away.
>
> Lou

Have you posted your recipe? I'd like to try one. Thanks in advance
Which cut of beef do you suggest using?

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:40:54 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>> $70 for four sandwiches? Ouch.
>
> Looking at mail order prices. As usual you're an idiot.
>
> Lou

I'm just curious, if you do mail order sandwiches, are they already
assembled or do you have to assemble it yourself? I would assume assemble
it yourself, but I'm clueless on this one.

kili

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:30:20 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:40:54 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>> $70 for four sandwiches? Ouch.
>>
>> Looking at mail order prices. As usual you're an idiot.
>>
>> Lou
>
>I'm just curious, if you do mail order sandwiches, are they already
>assembled or do you have to assemble it yourself? I would assume assemble
>it yourself, but I'm clueless on this one.

It's been awhile since I've looked at Portillo's site so I refreshed
myself. It seems SF is wrong about the 4 sandwich and it actually
makes 8. At $67.95 it's still a lot of money. And 1/4 pound of meat
isn't much of a sandwich. But it's mail order.

You do assemble it yourself. I know people who have moved away and
have done it. They claim it's pretty good, but nothing is going to be
great that's been sitting at UPS for 2 days so I wouldn't recommend
it.

They have instructions for reheating on their site that are pretty
good.

http://www.portillos.com/store/heating/

Goomba just asked if I've ever posted my recipe. I haven't. But I
will in a day or so when I spend a little time and type something up.
Stay tuned and don't waste your hard earned money on shipping
something you can make for next to nothing. It's just cheap immigrant
food. Most good comfort food is.

Lou

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:11:54 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
>> suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
>> 12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
>> usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
>> the store.
>>
>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester
>>
>> Unfortunately for Paul my beef blows his and all the others away.
>>
>> Lou
>
>Have you posted your recipe? I'd like to try one. Thanks in advance
>Which cut of beef do you suggest using?

I'll type something up in the next day or so and post to your
attention. It's not rocket science but I'll have to think a bit as I
don't use a recipe. Damsel has a basic recipe in the RFC signature
dishes but it's pretty weak and the result looks nothing like a
Chicago style Italian beef. Hahaboner has already killfiled me for
bringing that up.

Lou

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's one you do NOT want to try. <eg>

http://southernfood.about.com/od/cro.../r/bl101c3.htm

Ingredients:

* 3 1/2 to 4 pounds beef roast, sirloin tip or rump roast
* 12 ounces (jar) Italian Giardiniera, drained, less if you want
it less spicy
* 12 ounces (jar) pepperoncini peppers
* 1 envelope Italian salad dressing (zesty Italian)
* 10 ounce can condensed beef broth

Preparation:
Place beef roast in a 3 1/2 to 5-quart slow cooker. Combine
Giardiniera, pepperoncini peppers, dry salad dressing mix, and
condensed beef broth.

Add all mixture to crockpot. Cover and cook on LOW for 12 to 14 hours,
until meat is very tender. Use a fork to shred for sandwiches and
serve with crusty Italian rolls or crusty bread. Serves 10 to 15.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:30:20 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:40:54 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>> $70 for four sandwiches? Ouch.
>>
>> Looking at mail order prices. As usual you're an idiot.
>>
>> Lou
>
>I'm just curious, if you do mail order sandwiches, are they already
>assembled or do you have to assemble it yourself? I would assume assemble
>it yourself, but I'm clueless on this one.
>
It read like you assemble them yourself. At least you don't have to
worry about soggy bread, but I'm not sure how they fend off staleness.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

> The dunking is not necessary. Portillo's doesn't do it. Legend has
> it that started with a customer who needed a sandwich in a hurry and
> it was dropped in the juice. Being in a hurry he said he'd take it
> anyway. All they need is a spoon or two of juice drizzled on them.
> Otherwise you've got a big mess that's no longer a sandwich but rather
> something that needs a fork and knife. I make my own and serve them
> with some juice on the side in a ramekin for dipping.

Dunking is what is done. Mess is not relevant. I began to like "wet"
when years ago I had a broken tooth. In Chicago, if you serve a beef
sandwish with a ramekin of juice people would think it was a "french
dip" sandwich.

> Why is finishing it important?

Personal thing. I like to finish my food.

> The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
> suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
> 12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
> usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
> the store.
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester

I don't get out that way often but will try to remember. Sounds fine
with me.

> Unfortunately for Paul my beef blows his and all the others away.

I'd like to try it !

Andy wrote:
>
> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>
> What say you?
>
> Andy
> Cheesesteak for now.


I apologize for not thinking of this link before. It is a guy who is
obsessed with taking photos of certain categories of foods, of which,
apparently, he eats a great deal. He also provides ratings for the
premises, the food itself, and the presentation.

This is over 30 dated photos and ratings of Italian Beefs in Chicago:

http://www.greasefreak.com/beefs.html

On Fri 29 Aug 2008 04:30:30p, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite told us...

>
>> The dunking is not necessary. Portillo's doesn't do it. Legend has
>> it that started with a customer who needed a sandwich in a hurry and
>> it was dropped in the juice. Being in a hurry he said he'd take it
>> anyway. All they need is a spoon or two of juice drizzled on them.
>> Otherwise you've got a big mess that's no longer a sandwich but rather
>> something that needs a fork and knife. I make my own and serve them
>> with some juice on the side in a ramekin for dipping.
>
> Dunking is what is done. Mess is not relevant. I began to like "wet"
> when years ago I had a broken tooth. In Chicago, if you serve a beef
> sandwish with a ramekin of juice people would think it was a "french
> dip" sandwich.
>
>> Why is finishing it important?
>
> Personal thing. I like to finish my food.
>
>> The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
>> suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
>> 12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
>> usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
>> the store.
>>
>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester
>
> I don't get out that way often but will try to remember. Sounds fine
> with me.
>
>> Unfortunately for Paul my beef blows his and all the others away.
>
> I'd like to try it !
>

I don't like "wet" bread, so none of it would do for me. In fact, I'm not
too fond of Italian Beef, but I really like a good Philly Steak Sandwich
with grill onions, mushrooms, and cheese.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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Cuthbert Thistlethwaite said...

> This is over 30 dated photos and ratings of Italian Beefs in Chicago:
>
> http://www.greasefreak.com/beefs.html


Cuthbert Thistlethwaite,

A drooling website album to be sure, thanks!

In return, here's one of a couple hundred of dozens of Philly cheesesteaks
that was awarded the privilege of resting in my stomach, for a brief moment
in time.

http://s1.tinypic.com/54bsnwz.jpg (Circa, 2005)

Best,

Andy

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:31:25 -0400, Stan Horwitz >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >
> >> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
> >>
> >> What say you?
> >
> >Being a born and raised Philadelphian who has never been to Chicago, I
> >can't compare the two. I suspect Chicago's Italian Beef sandwich is
> >pretty tasty though.
>
> Yes but they'll put you in concrete boots when you ask for the
> ketchup.

That's okay. I usually have my own ketchup with me anyway.

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Stan Horwitz said...
>
> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >
> >> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
> >>
> >> What say you?
> >
> > Being a born and raised Philadelphian who has never been to Chicago, I
> > can't compare the two. I suspect Chicago's Italian Beef sandwich is
> > pretty tasty though.
>
>
> Stan,
>
> I visited Chicago in 1985. Never had their famous Italian beef sandwich NOR
> their famous deep dish pizza. ((

Andy,

What's the point of going there then?

Stan replied to Andy:

>> I visited Chicago in 1985. Never had their famous Italian beef
>> sandwich NOR their famous deep dish pizza. ((
>
> What's the point of going there then?

Chicago-style hot dogs, of course!

Well, that and Alinea.

Bob

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:34:41 -0500, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite wrote:

>
> I apologize for not thinking of this link before. It is a guy who is
> obsessed with taking photos of certain categories of foods, of which,
> apparently, he eats a great deal. He also provides ratings for the
> premises, the food itself, and the presentation.
>
> This is over 30 dated photos and ratings of Italian Beefs in Chicago:
>
> http://www.greasefreak.com/beefs.html

man! subway they ain't.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy said...

> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:34:41 -0500, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite wrote:
>
>>
>> I apologize for not thinking of this link before. It is a guy who is
>> obsessed with taking photos of certain categories of foods, of which,
>> apparently, he eats a great deal. He also provides ratings for the
>> premises, the food itself, and the presentation.
>>
>> This is over 30 dated photos and ratings of Italian Beefs in Chicago:
>>
>> http://www.greasefreak.com/beefs.html
>
> man! subway they ain't.
>
> your pal,
> blake


If you back up to the root url, he's got pages of other foods.

No famous deep dish pizza page! Mr. Strazzabosco doesn't like pizza?

Why ya gotta do that stuff to a hot dog?!?

Andy

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:30:30 -0500, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
> wrote:

>
>> The dunking is not necessary. Portillo's doesn't do it. Legend has
>> it that started with a customer who needed a sandwich in a hurry and
>> it was dropped in the juice. Being in a hurry he said he'd take it
>> anyway. All they need is a spoon or two of juice drizzled on them.
>> Otherwise you've got a big mess that's no longer a sandwich but rather
>> something that needs a fork and knife. I make my own and serve them
>> with some juice on the side in a ramekin for dipping.
>
>Dunking is what is done.

Some do - some don't.

>Mess is not relevant.

Sure it is. There is such a thing as too much.

>I began to like "wet" when years ago I had a broken tooth.

I've always liked them wet, but not dunked. I want to be able to hold
it. Juice poured on the beef is plenty and the crust remains intact
enough to hold.

>In Chicago, if you serve a beef sandwish with a ramekin of juice
>people would think it was a "french dip" sandwich.

I've been doing it for years and there's never been any confusion.
You can also order juice on the side and get a little cup. If you
want yours dipped go for it. I think it's overkill.

>> Why is finishing it important?
>
>Personal thing. I like to finish my food.

Hummmm. ok.
>
>> The best restaurant Italian beef I've had comes from a near west
>> suburb called Westchester. It's Paul's and is owned by the mayor. A
>> 12 inch beef is only 5 bucks and there's no way I can finish one. We
>> usually get fries and split he beef. The owner/mayor actually works
>> the store.
>>
>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-pizza-westchester
>
>I don't get out that way often but will try to remember. Sounds fine
>with me.

His pizza is quite good also.

Lou

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:34:41 -0500, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
> wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>>
>> Famous Chicago Italian Beef OR Philly Cheesesteak?
>>
>> What say you?
>>
>> Andy
>> Cheesesteak for now.
>
>
>I apologize for not thinking of this link before. It is a guy who is
>obsessed with taking photos of certain categories of foods, of which,
>apparently, he eats a great deal. He also provides ratings for the
>premises, the food itself, and the presentation.
>
>This is over 30 dated photos and ratings of Italian Beefs in Chicago:
>
>http://www.greasefreak.com/beefs.html


LOL. Great collection. I'm not sure I agree with all his ratings but
it was interesting anyway.

Lou