On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:33:37 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

><sf> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:03:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I don't
>>>remember seeing bad manners until I left for college. I guess I grew up
>>>in
>>>a very sheltered environment.
>>
>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>> The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family style",
>> which is something I still don't like. I don't want extra food on the
>> table when everyone is seated.
>
>But your extra may not be someone else's enough! Do you really decide how
>much other people will get?
>

These days I let people serve themselves buffet style, then we sit at
the dining room table (with the works: good china and sterling
silver). The food is out on pretty platters, so they can go back for
seconds any time. I absolutely HATE extra food sitting on the dining
room (or kitchen) table. Bread, butter, condiments, ok.... but not
platters of food.

You want more? Get up and serve yourself. I serve my immediate
family restaurant style, because I know how much they eat.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:10:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Aug 26, 2:15*am, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:03:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >I don't
>> >remember seeing bad manners until I left for college. *I guess I grew up in
>> >a very sheltered environment.
>>
>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>> The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family style",
>> which is something I still don't like. *I don't want extra food on the
>> table when everyone is seated.
>>
>
>That's a new one to me. All our meals were family-style, even though
>served by my grandmother who always had a maid and other servants.
>Iowa's Amana Colonies restaurants are known for their family-style
>service. What possible objection could there be to have dishes of
>food on the table when everyone is seated??? What do you do if people
>want seconds - are they forbidden? Are you talking about regular
>family get-togethers? Very odd.
>
My guests are not cripples. They can get up and serve themselves. I
object to food on the dining table, not on another surface they can
reach easily. It's not 3 blocks away.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Saerah Gray > wrote in
. 102:

> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > fnord
> :
>
>> Saerah Gray >
>> . 102: in
>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah? well, we didn't even have a TV; my siblings and I had to
> read
>>> the TV listings and act out the programs from the descriptions.
>>
>> Ohhh... did any of you become famous in movies, TV or the theatre?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>
> no
>

Who played Mr. ED?

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

sf wrote:

> These days I let people serve themselves buffet style, then we sit at
> the dining room table (with the works: good china and sterling
> silver). The food is out on pretty platters, so they can go back for
> seconds any time. I absolutely HATE extra food sitting on the dining
> room (or kitchen) table. Bread, butter, condiments, ok.... but not
> platters of food.
>
> You want more? Get up and serve yourself. I serve my immediate
> family restaurant style, because I know how much they eat.

I'm imagining all that food set out on "pretty platters" somewhere other
than the dining room table: The good cheer and good company keep the diners'
attention focused at the table, where laughter and fellowship abound...
Looking up, someone notices that the deviled eggs have been exhaustively
sampled by the cats, while the roast baron of beef has been dragged down to
the floor by the dog, who is holding it down with one paw while ripping
great chunks of greasy flesh from the bone and then shaking them vigorously
prior to bolting them down.

It only takes a few seconds!

Bob, who has a sideboard RIGHT NEXT TO the dining room table

Goomba wrote:

> I don't mind unexpected visitors, in fact, would welcome them almost
> anytime.

I work from 6 PM to 6 AM, Wednesday through Sunday, and generally sleep from
8 AM to 4 PM. I have *never* had an unexpected visitor show up during my
normal waking hours. They always show up when I'm trying to sleep.

Bob

Wayne wrote:

> Same here, Nancy. At least if there weren't dishes of food on the table,
> they were on the sideboard and readily avalable. I really dislike most
> meals served in the home that are plated in the kitchen, with no options.
>
> At last in a restaurant, I can clearly specify what they will bring out on
> the plate.

Ever since eating the sixteen-course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las
Vegas, I have *enjoyed* preparing and serving multi-course meals, especially
just for Lin and myself on special occasions. I hope Lin enjoys it as much
as I do; I'd hate to think I was making her uncomfortable -- after all, I'm
planning such a meal in just over a week.

Bob

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:20:35 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>>> The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family
>>> style", which is something I still don't like. I don't want extra
>>> food on the table when everyone is seated.
>>
>> What if you want more? What if your guests at table want more?
>
> I don't have servants, it's on the buffet.... serve yourself.

Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the
diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only
ones eating.

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

Ophelia wrote:

>>>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners
>>>> either. The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served
>>>> "family style", which is something I still don't like. I don't
>>>> want extra food on the table when everyone is seated.


Weird, to me.

>>> What if you want more? What if your guests at table want more?

>> I don't have servants, it's on the buffet.... serve yourself.

> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the
> diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two are
> the only ones eating.

Same here. In an everyday family lungh or dinner, the first arrival is the
pot of pasta or soup, in the middle of the table so that everybody can help
them to it, then it's the turn for the secodn course, always in the middle
of the table. Then that place gets occupied by the fruit or dessert, if
there is any. In more elaborate luncheons, maybe with relatives on a
particular occasion, there always is more people so the main dishes can be
more than one for any particular recipe, one for one half of the table and
another for the other half, so that people can reach it without too much
hassle. Sometimes we serve the first course already in the dish, as it
usually is with lasagne which in these occasions get cooked in a very big
oven pan which wouldn't be easy to bring to the table.
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the
> diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the
> only ones eating.
>

We used to do that but stopped a few years ago. Why? Making platters makes
it easier to maintain a proper portion with no picking and it also saves
some dishes and makes cleanup faster. It is not uncommon to take the pot of
(veggies, potatoes, meat, whatever) and put some on each dinner plate, a
portion in a lunch container and any leftovers in a storage container. Done.

When we have guests though, the food is properly presented on the table and
guests will often have seconds. Diners are definitely a social time for
everyone to enjoy and partake as they see fit.

hahabogus > fnord news:Xns9B078E02464Fhahabogus@
69.16.185.247:

> Saerah Gray > wrote in
> . 102:
>
>> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > fnord
>> :
>>
>>> Saerah Gray >
>>> . 102: in
>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah? well, we didn't even have a TV; my siblings and I had to
>> read
>>>> the TV listings and act out the programs from the descriptions.
>>>
>>> Ohhh... did any of you become famous in movies, TV or the theatre?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> no
>>
>
> Who played Mr. ED?
>

The cat.

--
Saerah

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 12:57:52a, Ophelia told us...

> sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:20:35 -0400, Goomba >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>>>> The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family
>>>> style", which is something I still don't like. I don't want extra
>>>> food on the table when everyone is seated.
>>>
>>> What if you want more? What if your guests at table want more?
>>
>> I don't have servants, it's on the buffet.... serve yourself.
>
> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the
> diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the
> only ones eating.
>

I do, too.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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Date: Wednesday, 08(VIII)/27(XXVII)/08(MMVIII)
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4dys 19hrs 11mins
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The trouble with being the boss is
that there's no satisfaction in
stealing office supplies.

On Tue 26 Aug 2008 10:26:15p, told us...

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:33:37 +0200, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>
>><sf> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>news
>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:03:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't
>>>>remember seeing bad manners until I left for college. I guess I grew
up
>>>>in
>>>>a very sheltered environment.
>>>
>>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>>> The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family style",
>>> which is something I still don't like. I don't want extra food on the
>>> table when everyone is seated.
>>
>>But your extra may not be someone else's enough! Do you really decide
how
>>much other people will get?
>>
>
> These days I let people serve themselves buffet style, then we sit at
> the dining room table (with the works: good china and sterling
> silver). The food is out on pretty platters, so they can go back for
> seconds any time. I absolutely HATE extra food sitting on the dining
> room (or kitchen) table. Bread, butter, condiments, ok.... but not
> platters of food.

But you initially made it sound as though everything was plated in the
kitchen and no additional food was accessible or available. I understand
now that is not what you meant.

> You want more? Get up and serve yourself. I serve my immediate
> family restaurant style, because I know how much they eat.

Sometimes I do that, depending on what David and I are eating.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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4dys 19hrs 9mins
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I thought I was mistaken but I was
mistaken.
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Vilco wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>>>>> I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners
>>>>> either. The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served
>>>>> "family style", which is something I still don't like. I don't
>>>>> want extra food on the table when everyone is seated.
>
>
> Weird, to me.
>
>>>> What if you want more? What if your guests at table want more?
>
>>> I don't have servants, it's on the buffet.... serve yourself.
>
>> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that
>> the diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two
>> are the only ones eating.
>
> Same here. In an everyday family lungh or dinner, the first arrival
> is the pot of pasta or soup, in the middle of the table so that
> everybody can help them to it, then it's the turn for the secodn
> course, always in the middle of the table. Then that place gets
> occupied by the fruit or dessert, if there is any. In more elaborate
> luncheons, maybe with relatives on a particular occasion, there
> always is more people so the main dishes can be more than one for any
> particular recipe, one for one half of the table and another for the
> other half, so that people can reach it without too much hassle.
> Sometimes we serve the first course already in the dish, as it
> usually is with lasagne which in these occasions get cooked in a very
> big oven pan which wouldn't be easy to bring to the table.

Yes, that is exactly the way we do it. Each course brought in seperately
and then cleared before the next one.

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that
>> the diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two
>> are the only ones eating.
>>
>
> We used to do that but stopped a few years ago. Why? Making platters
> makes it easier to maintain a proper portion with no picking and it
> also saves some dishes and makes cleanup faster. It is not uncommon
> to take the pot of (veggies, potatoes, meat, whatever) and put some
> on each dinner plate, a portion in a lunch container and any
> leftovers in a storage container. Done.

I hate having my plate made up for me.


>
> When we have guests though, the food is properly presented on the
> table and guests will often have seconds. Diners are definitely a
> social time for everyone to enjoy and partake as they see fit.

Absolutely but we enjoy our meals together the same

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> She ain't Italian, that's for sure. <sigh> She makes a huge big
> production out of her "economy" and "frugal" ways yet instead of looking
> virtuous she looks cheap and stingy.

I am economy-minded, she is frugal, you are cheap. '-)
Something like that. :-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, blahblahblog is back and
most recently updated last night, 8-17-2008. Fair entries are DONE!

In article >,
"Giusi" > wrote:

> ,Y or Z could not or would not eat. When planning portions for clients I
> have been stunned at how much some can eat.

Do the Americans eat more that the others?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, blahblahblog is back and
most recently updated last night, 8-17-2008. Fair entries are DONE!

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:44:19 GMT, Saerah Gray wrote:

> hahabogus > fnord news:Xns9B078E02464Fhahabogus@
> 69.16.185.247:
>
>> Saerah Gray > wrote in
>> . 102:
>>
>>> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > fnord
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Saerah Gray >
>>>> . 102: in
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah? well, we didn't even have a TV; my siblings and I had to
>>> read
>>>>> the TV listings and act out the programs from the descriptions.
>>>>
>>>> Ohhh... did any of you become famous in movies, TV or the theatre?
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> no
>>>
>>
>> Who played Mr. ED?
>>
>
> The cat.

that's what i call *range*.

your pal,
blake

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:11:46a, blake murphy told us...

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:44:19 GMT, Saerah Gray wrote:
>
>> hahabogus > fnord news:Xns9B078E02464Fhahabogus@
>> 69.16.185.247:
>>
>>> Saerah Gray > wrote in
>>> . 102:
>>>
>>>> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > fnord
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Saerah Gray >
>>>>> . 102: in
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh yeah? well, we didn't even have a TV; my siblings and I had to
>>>> read
>>>>>> the TV listings and act out the programs from the descriptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohhh... did any of you become famous in movies, TV or the theatre?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who played Mr. ED?
>>>
>>
>> The cat.
>
> that's what i call *range*.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

It was a very big cat!

--
Wayne Boatwright

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Date: Wednesday, 08(VIII)/27(XXVII)/08(MMVIII)
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4dys 13hrs 42mins
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see things as we are. --Talmudic saying
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:07:19 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:31:17 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> TFM® > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I, like you, was born before the advent of the remote control. I was the
>>>> remote control until I was 16 years old.
>>>
>>> I was the Vertical Hold child until I was 18.
>>
>> did you emancipate yourself, or did they kick you out of the house?
>
> I actually got a job and bought the house a new, Solid State
> TV when I was 18. It had a 4-channel *sonic* remote (Channel/Volume
> Up/Down). The remote worked from 200+ft away and through walls.
>
> They don't make them like that anymore.
>
> -sw

yeah we had a zenith - channelmaster? - with one of those sound remotes.
ours never started to respond to jingled keys or coins as some were
reported to, though.

your pal,
blake

On Aug 26, 11:12*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
> > I don't mind unexpected visitors, in fact, would welcome them almost
> > anytime.
>
> I work from 6 PM to 6 AM, Wednesday through Sunday, and generally sleep from
> 8 AM to 4 PM. I have *never* had an unexpected visitor show up during my
> normal waking hours. They always show up when I'm trying to sleep.
>
> Bob

That must be hard. Although you do have a very small window on
workdays when you wouldn't be at work or asleep. I get very few
visitors in the 4-6pm or 6-8am time periods.

If the subject is manners, I was raised the daughter of an Army
officer and exquisite manners were required. Not only were we
supposed to have good manners, we were supposed to serve as examples
to the other children. I've tried to pass that down to my children.

Once a month my parents would bundle us all into the car on Sunday
afternoons and we'd be gone until dinnertime. When we got back, there
would always be a few calling cards on the front porch - the younger
officers were required to call on the older officers when they joined
the post. The game was for my dad to gently drop hints on when he'd
be out so they could just drop off the cards and fulfill the
requirement.

So, dropping by unannounced can be part of good manners.

Susan B.

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:19:11a, blake murphy told us...

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:07:19 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:31:17 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> TFM® > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I, like you, was born before the advent of the remote control. I
>>>>> was the remote control until I was 16 years old.
>>>>
>>>> I was the Vertical Hold child until I was 18.
>>>
>>> did you emancipate yourself, or did they kick you out of the house?
>>
>> I actually got a job and bought the house a new, Solid State
>> TV when I was 18. It had a 4-channel *sonic* remote (Channel/Volume
>> Up/Down). The remote worked from 200+ft away and through walls.
>>
>> They don't make them like that anymore.
>>
>> -sw
>
> yeah we had a zenith - channelmaster? - with one of those sound remotes.
> ours never started to respond to jingled keys or coins as some were
> reported to, though.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

The first TV we had with a remote had a cable between the remote and TV.
One advantage, though, was that it controlled not only volume and channel
selection, but brightness and contrast as well, and it was as accurate as
change the controls at the TV. Can't remember the brand. This was in the
late 1950s.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:26:17 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Wayne wrote:
>
>> Same here, Nancy. At least if there weren't dishes of food on the table,
>> they were on the sideboard and readily avalable. I really dislike most
>> meals served in the home that are plated in the kitchen, with no options.
>>
>> At last in a restaurant, I can clearly specify what they will bring out on
>> the plate.
>
> Ever since eating the sixteen-course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las
> Vegas, I have *enjoyed* preparing and serving multi-course meals, especially
> just for Lin and myself on special occasions. I hope Lin enjoys it as much
> as I do; I'd hate to think I was making her uncomfortable -- after all, I'm
> planning such a meal in just over a week.
>
> Bob

i'm sure if she didn't like it you could find many takers in this group
alone.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:31:33 -0400, Goomba wrote:

> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
>> In my childhood, when doors were never locked, friends and even
>> neighbours, not only arrived unannounced but would just let themselves
>> in, call hello or if nobody was home, leave something on the table or
>> borrow what they had come for. This was in an industrial city. I still
>> don't mind in the least when people drop by unannounced; never offer
>> any apologies or explanations about the pyjamas or mess ...they take
>> us as they find us. They will invariably be offered hospitality of some
>> kind (my mother would spin in her grave if I didn't) .
>>
>> Janet
>
> I lean more towards your view. And that was how my childhood was in the
> comfortable 'burbs. I don't mind unexpected visitors, in fact, would
> welcome them almost anytime. But then again my vanity hates being caught
> in my jammies with bedhead and the house a wreck. That's the chance I take.
> I wish more people would stop by. I'd rather see them any way I can than
> wait for an arranged visit. Some of the best times are the least
> arranged or expected.

that's fine as long as your friends are equally fine with, 'gosh, sorry, i
was just one my way out/about to get drunk/planning to commit murder and/or
suicide.' i would be ****ed if it was assumed i would drop whatever i was
doing to entertain them.

your pal,
blake

sf wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:10:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>
>>On Aug 26, 2:15�am, sf wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:03:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't
>>>>remember seeing bad manners until I left for college. �I guess I grew up in
>>>>a very sheltered environment.
>>>
>>>I grew up in a rural area and *I* don't remember bad manners either.
>>>The worst thing I remembered is that meals were served "family style",
>>>which is something I still don't like. �I don't want extra food on the
>>>table when everyone is seated.
>>>
>>
>>That's a new one to me. All our meals were family-style, even though
>>served by my grandmother who always had a maid and other servants.
>>Iowa's Amana Colonies restaurants are known for their family-style
>>service. What possible objection could there be to have dishes of
>>food on the table when everyone is seated??? What do you do if people
>>want seconds - are they forbidden? Are you talking about regular
>>family get-togethers? Very odd.
>>
>
> My guests are not cripples. They can get up and serve themselves. I
> object to food on the dining table, not on another surface they can
> reach easily. It's not 3 blocks away.

With guests for big "family style" meals i go with putting the main
course and side dishes on the table, desserts served separately after
the main course has been cleared, but when its just me and the elderly
relative i make her a plate from the cooking pots & pans, slice of any
meat and serve her the plate rather than putting the food in a serving
dish just for the two of us.

It was on her suggestion i disassembled the dinning room, turned it into
an office/den for myself and only use it as a dining room on holidays
when we have guests.

Originally i was setting the dining room table for lunch and dinner with
china and centerpiece and cloth. When she realized i was only doing it
for her she urged me to desist and now we take our meals together at the
kitchen table, no cloth, paper towels for napkins and only use the good
china and silver on special occasions.

Since she started taking heart medications i don't even get out the
champagne bucket on new years eve any more.
--
JL
>
>
>

Joe Tarot wrote:

Oooops, drat! .... ISP problems
--
JL

Blake wrote:

>> Ever since eating the sixteen-course tasting menu at Joël Robuchon in Las
>> Vegas, I have *enjoyed* preparing and serving multi-course meals,
>> especially just for Lin and myself on special occasions. I hope Lin
>> enjoys it as much as I do; I'd hate to think I was making her
>> uncomfortable -- after all, I'm planning such a meal in just over a week.
>>
>
> i'm sure if she didn't like it you could find many takers in this group
> alone.

I asked her about it, and she says she likes the multi-course meals just
fine, but the downside is that the kitchen aftermath is much worse, and
she's the one stuck with restoring the disaster area. (Then she set my mind
at ease for next week, saying, "Don't worry; it's a special occasion: You
only turn fifty once." I'm a lucky, lucky man.)

Bob

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:06:42 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>
>I'm imagining all that food set out on "pretty platters" somewhere other
>than the dining room table: The good cheer and good company keep the diners'
>attention focused at the table, where laughter and fellowship abound...
>Looking up, someone notices that the deviled eggs have been exhaustively
>sampled by the cats, while the roast baron of beef has been dragged down to
>the floor by the dog, who is holding it down with one paw while ripping
>great chunks of greasy flesh from the bone and then shaking them vigorously
>prior to bolting them down.

Nope, that doesn't happen and my formal-ish dinners don't involve
deviled eggs, LOL! Good lard, who do you think I am???

I have a large (and separate) dining room, but my table is large too
as are the chairs... BTW: they are *all* arm chairs - suitable for
hours of after dinner conversations that don't have to move to another
room for everyone to be comfortable.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:53:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>But you initially made it sound as though everything was plated in the
>kitchen and no additional food was accessible or available. I understand
>now that is not what you meant.

If you and Mr. T reread what I said, I didn't imply that at all. You
took your preconceptions and made them my practice.


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:56:05p, told us...

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:53:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>But you initially made it sound as though everything was plated in the
>>kitchen and no additional food was accessible or available. I understand
>>now that is not what you meant.
>
> If you and Mr. T reread what I said, I didn't imply that at all. You
> took your preconceptions and made them my practice.
>
>

You said there were no dishes of food on the table. You did not say where
the dishes of food were, or for that matter, that there were dishes of
food. One might preconceive anything from that.


--
Wayne Boatwright

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:57:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the
>diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only
>ones eating.

NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.

Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:

>> Looking up, someone notices that the deviled eggs have been exhaustively
>> sampled by the cats, while the roast baron of beef has been dragged down
>> to the floor by the dog, who is holding it down with one paw while
>> ripping great chunks of greasy flesh from the bone and then shaking them
>> vigorously prior to bolting them down.
>
> Nope, that doesn't happen and my formal-ish dinners don't involve
> deviled eggs, LOL! Good lard, who do you think I am???

I was just describing the potential for hilarity. In my mind's eye, I now
remove the deviled eggs and replace them with poached salmon in chaud-froid.



> I have a large (and separate) dining room, but my table is large too
> as are the chairs... BTW: they are *all* arm chairs - suitable for
> hours of after dinner conversations that don't have to move to another
> room for everyone to be comfortable.

That's very nice. I hope to upgrade my dining room set in conjunction with
installing a gaming table in my front room, with the dining seats available
for gaming as required. The major sticking point is that the gaming table
will have to be custom-made. (By "gaming" I don't mean craps, roulette, or
poker; I mean Diplomacy, Cosmic Encounter, chess, go, backgammon, and so
forth.) Anybody know a top-notch woodworker?

Bob

sf wrote:

>> I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the diners may help
>> themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only ones eating.
>
> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>
> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
> person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.

You sure have some strange notions about the "right" way to do things
(remembering your ideas about the "right" way to cut up onions).

"Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food is
served family-style.

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>>> I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the diners may
>>> help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only ones
>>> eating.
>>
>> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
>> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
>> person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.
>
> You sure have some strange notions about the "right" way to do things
> (remembering your ideas about the "right" way to cut up onions).
>
> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
> FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
> evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food is
> served family-style.
>
> Bob

There ain't no one right way to serve a meal. Most folks ain't the
Waltons ya know. Your best bet is to always follow the lead of the host
- it's his show after all.

In my tribe all the men eat together while sitting on the floor - the
women and kids will eat in a separate hut. It's Wednesday so we shall
dine on bucket KFC with delicious new formula "honey" substance washed
down with gallons of fruit punch. Hope your dinner is as good!

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
> FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
> evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food is
> served family-style.
>
> Bob

Of course it is acceptable! Why else would we have had to learn how to
pass food around the table as children back in etiquette classes if it
wasn't acceptable?

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:57:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting. I always put the dishes of food on the table so that
>> the diners may help themselves. I always do this even when we two
>> are the only ones eating.
>
> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>
> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
> person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.

LOL I confess all)))

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>>> I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the diners may
>>> help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only
>>> ones eating.
>>
>> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
>> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
>> person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.
>
> You sure have some strange notions about the "right" way to do things
> (remembering your ideas about the "right" way to cut up onions).
>
> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
> FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
> evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food
> is served family-style.

I am not sure what you mean by 'family style' I assumed family style meant
having your plate made up for you.

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

dsi1 wrote:
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>>> I always put the dishes of food on the table so that the diners may
>>>> help themselves. I always do this even when we two are the only
>>>> ones eating.
>>>
>>> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
>>> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less
>>> uncouth person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be
>>> genetic.
>>
>> You sure have some strange notions about the "right" way to do things
>> (remembering your ideas about the "right" way to cut up onions).
>>
>> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's
>> a FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller
>> agrees, as evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where
>> ALL the food is served family-style.
>>
>> Bob
>
> There ain't no one right way to serve a meal. Most folks ain't the
> Waltons ya know. Your best bet is to always follow the lead of the
> host - it's his show after all.
>
> In my tribe all the men eat together while sitting on the floor - the
> women and kids will eat in a separate hut. It's Wednesday so we shall
> dine on bucket KFC with delicious new formula "honey" substance washed
> down with gallons of fruit punch. Hope your dinner is as good!

<g>

--
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

Ophelia wrote:

>> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
>> FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
>> evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food
>> is served family-style.
>
> I am not sure what you mean by 'family style' I assumed family style
> meant having your plate made up for you.

"Family style" means that bowls and platters of food are placed on the
table. A diner will dish out some food for himself or herself and then pass
the bowl to the diner on his or her left. In the case of an unwieldy dish or
platter (such as a roast), the host or hostess will offer slices or pieces
to each diner rather than passing it around.

Bob

Ophelia wrote:

>> "Family-style" service is perfectly acceptable, especially when it's a
>> FAMILY MEAL. Even such a culinary luminary as Thomas Keller agrees, as
>> evidenced by his restaurant Ad Hoc in Yountville, where ALL the food
>> is served family-style.
>
> I am not sure what you mean by 'family style' I assumed family style meant
> having your plate made up for you.
>
No, family style (to me) means the serving bowls and platters are at the
table and passed, and ultimately end up sitting on the table in case
anyone wishes more.

<sf> ha scritto nel messaggio
...

>
> NO! no no no. I can't begin to tell you how much it disgusts me.
>
> Unfortunately, I am only half of a marital pair. The other half
> endorses that barbaric practice. I've shaped him into a less uncouth
> person, but I haven't totally changed him. It seems to be genetic.

How can you bear to be stuck here with all us barbarians? I think most of
us thought you allowed no extra food in the room at least, and it looks like
most of us have dishes of food on the table. If only I had a footman I'd go
your way, perhaps, but present circumstances allow little passage room, no
convenient surfaces and alas, no footman. Not even a toeman.

When I have my annual too many people dinner we have to pass dishes down
over others' heads to replenish those the other end away from the kitchen.