"Goomba" wrote

> I often don't bother reading a post if I have to scroll down (below what
> is visible on my computer screen) just to find the new reply. There are
> too many people who don't bother or remember to trim up the previous posts
> and it is very annoying.

I'm the same but only mildly annoyed. I've found over time that 'generally'
those who dont know how to trim right, seldom have much to say worth reading
anyways. Sure, there are exceptions in some threads, but most of those are
in the alt.home.repair where a longer quote may be needed to address an
issue.

On Sun 31 Aug 2008 09:59:52a, cshenk told us...

> "cybercat" wrote
>
>> I don't think it matters at all. What I think is that those of you who
>> spend a whole lot of time online should ease up on it a bit when you
>> start becoming very particular about how and what people post.
>
> I agree. I'm more concerned with what people say than how they say it.
> It's true I *prefer* trimmed bottom posting, but it's not that big of a
> deal. Not worth flaming anyone over for example.

I agree with that as well.

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"cshenk" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" wrote
>
>> A la carte, is that what you mean? Similar to steak houses?
>> That's why I said some places serve the vegetables separately.
>> But they don't just bring vegetables for everyone because someone
>> ordered some dish. They would still technically be for the person
>> who ordered them. Of course who could eat all that and you would
>> share.
>
> In Hongkong, there is this lovely restraunt I would always go to. Each
> person orders a different thing and each serving is enough usually for
> sharing with all at the table. I think it was the dimsum that was
> different where they told you how many pieces you'd get so you added as
> many servings as needed so all could have 1. I believe it was 3 normally
> and there would usually be 8 of us so we'd get 3 servings.

I think that Korean/Chinese, etc restaurants do things differently.
I've never been to a Korean restaurant, but from what I've seen,
they do bring dishes for the whole table to share, aside from what
you order.

> Then there was a place in Pusan Korea with home style seating on the floor
> about large tables and no english menu nor pictures but incredibly good
> food! We just pointed at the wall where the menu was painted and picked
> the middle price one then finger counted our numbers with a smile to the
> proprieter.

Sounds fun.

> Each dish was sized to suit 6 servings (there were 6 of us) and a few
> things were served individual in a bowl for each (an incredibly good
> seaweed salad, brownish grey flat big fleshy leaves with water bursting
> nodules, served with a wonderful sauce).
>
> Thailand in the upscale places did plate your food, but they also plated
> each thing individually and at the center of the table were small plates
> stacked (coffee saucer sized) and small cups (oriental tea cup set like
> items) so you could share off portions, even of a soup if you wanted.
> Servings were quite generous so normally the 5-8 of us would get 1-2 less
> main dishes and share off the excess all around so everyone ate (the 1 or
> 2 would order appetizers and we'd share the bill). The Lobster Pot was my
> favorite place there.

I ate at Marrakesh in Philadelphia, they brought platters of food
for the whole table. I enjoyed that, but of course that is not how
most restaurants work in America.

nancy

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:02:22 GMT, Saerah Gray wrote:

> Janis > fnord
> la.org:
>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well said.

she's taken the middle ground: no-posting.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:48 -0400, Janis wrote:

> Well, times change and posting netiquette changes as well. Here is the scoop
> on wikipedia
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>
> I think I am getting old.
>
> Top posting is the default on most email programs. Just sayin....
>
> J.

with all due respect, this ain't e-mail. (your wiki article says this is
mostly used in *business* e-mails.)

just bear in mind that many people won't read top-posts. if that doesn't
bother you, knock yourself out.

i think interleaving your replies (which usually implies bottom-posting) is
more readable, because people know what the hell you're responding to.

your pal,
blake

>
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:39:23 -0400, Nancy Young wrote
> (in article >):
>
>>
>> "Dave" > wrote
>>
>>> Saerah Gray wrote:
>>
>>>> You would think, having been on usenet so long and all, you would know
>>>> how rude top-posting is.
>>>
>>> I am not sure how long this tradition has been around, but why has no
>>> one told master Gates that it is not the done thing?
>>
>> It doesn't bother me, I'd just have to go back to the top to
>> clean up the attribution stuff anyway. Just sayin.
>>
>> nancy

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:32:10 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Wayne wrote:
>
>> Posting position is not a *law*.
>
> True, but top-posting causes crabs. It's a scientific fact. :-^)
>
> Bob

is *that* where they're from? mom told me it was dirty toilet seats.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:28:25 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

> The message 0>
> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these words:
>
>
>> I don't have the option of setting the cursor position. In Xnews the
>> cursor defaults to the top and cannot changed to default to the bottom.
>
> Does that matter? It's put on the page for you to move. If someone
> is correctly editing and abbreviating the other person's post before
> replying , they're going to be moving the cursor around for selective
> highlight-and-delete.It only takes a microsecond to direct the cursor
> where you need it.
>
> It would make posts a lot easier for all to follow if people pruned
> quoted ones a lot harder and conversed in chronological order.
>
> Janet

for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:28:07 GMT, Saerah Gray wrote:

> Janet Baraclough > fnord
> :
>
>> The message rg>
>> from Janis > contains these words:
>>
>>> Top posting is the default on most email programs. Just sayin....
>>
>> This is usenet not email. They are two different methods of
>> communication.
>
>
> wow, really?
>
>

all this time i thought i was watching t.v. no wonder rec.food.cooking
isn't on the schedule.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:39:14 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> What's really stupid is all the space wasted on all the servers by
>> re-quoting the same lines over and over again. The folks must be OCDers -
>> they can't bear to discard anything away and will practice repetitious
>> behavior without rhyme or reason. :-)
>
> Now THERE I can agree with you! It's especially obnoxious when they don't
> even bother trimming out the signatures.
>
> Bob

this last drives me nuts also. some newsreaders don't include them when
you reply; others do.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:15:33 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

>> dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> How about you tell me about why top posting is so evil to you.
>
> Because it places conversations out of time sequence. Top-posting is
> fine in email, where the messages arrive in a mutually fixed sequence,
> read only by the participants, who have received the entire exchange in
> the right chronological order, know who they are addressing, what the
> context it, and who said what.
>
> In a newsgroup, there may be a dozen posters holding a conversation
> and a hundred others trying to follow it. Because of time zones etc,
> and the way usenet propagates, many of us see the same posts laid out
> in a different sequence. We rely on the format of each post, to show
> where it fits into the chronology of the thread.
>
> If you top-post a reply to more than one quoted posts, other readers
> can't possibly tell which one you're responding to and if many people do
> it, the entire thread becomes hopelessly jumbled and confusing to other
> readers.
>
> Janet.

exactly. if you want to make it easy for your readers to understand you,
top-posting undercuts that goal. and many won't put up with it, geezers or
no.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:20:00 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:24:06 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>
>>> The message
>>> >
>>> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 4:16�am, Janet Baraclough >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I started posting to usenet my gorgeous legs
>>>>> have grown almost all the way to my armpits.
>>>
>>>> I suppose that means you can lick your own nether region. hehe
>>>
>>> That's your job.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>
>> i doubt sheldon knows enough about women to know how to do that.
>>
>
> And then there are the restraining orders to contend with.

<snort>

your pal,
blake

On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...

> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>
> your pal,
> blake

It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
sitting?

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:06:33 -0400, blake murphy wrote
(in article >):


> with all due respect, this ain't e-mail. (your wiki article says this is
> mostly used in *business* e-mails.)

Well I guess that is where I have spent most of my time through the years.

> just bear in mind that many people won't read top-posts. if that doesn't
> bother you, knock yourself out.

I don't really care. I won't read post that people don't trim.

> i think interleaving your replies (which usually implies bottom-posting) is
> more readable, because people know what the hell you're responding to.

I think you are absolutely correct.

J.

On Sun 31 Aug 2008 12:46:28p, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message 0>
> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these words:
>
>
>
>> Janet, I was not defending top posting,
>
> Sorry Wayne <strokes Wayne's feathers smooth> :-)
>
> Janet

That felt so good! :-)

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 12:46:28p, Janet Baraclough told us...
>
>> The message 0>
>> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these words:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Janet, I was not defending top posting,
>> Sorry Wayne <strokes Wayne's feathers smooth> :-)
>>
>> Janet
>
> That felt so good! :-)
>

<Hurl>

On Sun 31 Aug 2008 05:47:43p, DK told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 12:46:28p, Janet Baraclough told us...
>>
>>> The message 0>
>>> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these words:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Janet, I was not defending top posting,
>>> Sorry Wayne <strokes Wayne's feathers smooth> :-)
>>>
>>> Janet
>>
>> That felt so good! :-)
>>
>
> <Hurl>

Jealous?

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>
>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
> sitting?

it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
the cursor stays up there.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:36:16 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>> sitting?
>
>it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
>the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
>the cursor stays up there.
>

My news reader puts the cursor at the top when opening a message to
read and when replying to it.


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On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...

> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>> sitting?
>
> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
> the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
> the cursor stays up there.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>

Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
you to move it anywhere you want to.

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On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:51:31p, told us...

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:36:16 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>
>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>>> sitting?
>>
>>it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
>>the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
>>the cursor stays up there.
>>
>
> My news reader puts the cursor at the top when opening a message to
> read and when replying to it.
>
>

As does mine.

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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> You sound just like a WebTV'er...
>
>
> :-)
>
>

Oh man, I luv WebTV! It's gonna change the net you know!

Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> How about you tell me about why top posting is so evil to you.
>
> Because it places conversations out of time sequence. Top-posting is
> fine in email, where the messages arrive in a mutually fixed sequence,
> read only by the participants, who have received the entire exchange in
> the right chronological order, know who they are addressing, what the
> context it, and who said what.
>
> In a newsgroup, there may be a dozen posters holding a conversation
> and a hundred others trying to follow it. Because of time zones etc,
> and the way usenet propagates, many of us see the same posts laid out
> in a different sequence. We rely on the format of each post, to show
> where it fits into the chronology of the thread.
>
> If you top-post a reply to more than one quoted posts, other readers
> can't possibly tell which one you're responding to and if many people do
> it, the entire thread becomes hopelessly jumbled and confusing to other
> readers.
>
> Janet.

Thanks for your calm, rational answer. You'd be surprised at how folks
get ****ed that anybody would question this at all. I guess I'm a funny
sort - I feel nothing at all if someone top posts. I'll have to work
harder at getting more ****ed at folks new to Usenet protocol. :-)

fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>
>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>>> sitting?
>>
>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
>> the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
>> the cursor stays up there.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
>>
>
> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
> you to move it anywhere you want to.

well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.

i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have somewhere
in options a choice for where you want it placed.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:07:52 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> How about you tell me about why top posting is so evil to you.
>>
>> Because it places conversations out of time sequence. Top-posting is
>> fine in email, where the messages arrive in a mutually fixed sequence,
>> read only by the participants, who have received the entire exchange in
>> the right chronological order, know who they are addressing, what the
>> context it, and who said what.
>>
>> In a newsgroup, there may be a dozen posters holding a conversation
>> and a hundred others trying to follow it. Because of time zones etc,
>> and the way usenet propagates, many of us see the same posts laid out
>> in a different sequence. We rely on the format of each post, to show
>> where it fits into the chronology of the thread.
>>
>> If you top-post a reply to more than one quoted posts, other readers
>> can't possibly tell which one you're responding to and if many people do
>> it, the entire thread becomes hopelessly jumbled and confusing to other
>> readers.
>>
>> Janet.
>
> Thanks for your calm, rational answer. You'd be surprised at how folks
> get ****ed that anybody would question this at all. I guess I'm a funny
> sort - I feel nothing at all if someone top posts. I'll have to work
> harder at getting more ****ed at folks new to Usenet protocol. :-)

with all due respect, i think people got peeved with janis because she said
top-posting was the *right* way and gave a cite that didn't really back
that up.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>>
>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
>> you to move it anywhere you want to.
>
> well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>
> i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have somewhere
> in options a choice for where you want it placed.

I really don't know what the problem is with top posting, but if it is a
real taboo I have to wonder why mail readers give you the option.
AFIAC you have to be pretty anal to worry about it.

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:44:59 -0400, blake murphy wrote
(in article >):


> with all due respect, i think people got peeved with janis because she said
> top-posting was the *right* way and gave a cite that didn't really back
> that up.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Yeah, that Janis really should keep her mouth shut.

J.

"Janis" > wrote

> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:44:59 -0400, blake murphy wrote
> (in article >):
>
>
>> with all due respect, i think people got peeved with janis because she
>> said
>> top-posting was the *right* way and gave a cite that didn't really back
>> that up.

> Yeah, that Janis really should keep her mouth shut.

I hope no one is including me in the peeved thing. I gather
I missed the part where everyone was having a tantrum
about the top posting business. All I saw were people saying
why they did or didn't like it.

nancy

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>>>> sitting?
>>>
>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you
>>> hit
>>> the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that
>>> button,
>>> the cursor stays up there.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
>> you to move it anywhere you want to.
>
> well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>
> i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have somewhere
> in options a choice for where you want it placed.


Even my shitty little Microsoft Windows Live Mail enables me to put my
cursor at the bottom on a reply.

TFM®

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
m...
> blake murphy wrote:
>> fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
>>> you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>
>> well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>
>> i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>> somewhere
>> in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>
> I really don't know what the problem is with top posting, but if it is a
> real taboo I have to wonder why mail readers give you the option. AFIAC
> you have to be pretty anal to worry about it.
>

I don't worry about it, I merely despise it.
Count me in the anal group.

TFM®

On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...

> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>> blake
>>>>>
>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>
>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you
>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that
>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>
>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>
>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>
> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>

It doesn't work in Xnews.

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blake murphy wrote:

>
> with all due respect, i think people got peeved with janis because she said
> top-posting was the *right* way and gave a cite that didn't really back
> that up.
>
> your pal,
> blake

To tell the truth, I have not been following the thread that closely so
I was unaware that anybody was POed at her. The number of characters
here is most epic so I really have not sorted out who are the bad guys
here are yet but don't tell me, I wanna find out for myself!

Ain't you worried that you might hurt someone's feelings by not using
the shift key? I got one if your keyboard is missing it. Unfortunately,
it's a left shift. :-)

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>>
>>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you
>>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that
>>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>>
>>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>>
>>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>>
>>>your pal,
>>>blake
>>
>> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
>> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>
> It doesn't work in Xnews.

Check into news.software.reades, Wayne. I'm sure there will be an answer
there for you. Besides my recommendation, I think blake will vouch for
the quality of the group. And while it's not specific to Xnews, it's the
de facto support group for Xnews.


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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the cursor
>>>> sitting?
>>>
>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when you hit
>>> the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press that button,
>>> the cursor stays up there.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
>> you to move it anywhere you want to.
>
>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>
>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have somewhere
>in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>
>your pal,
>blake

Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
and in WordPerfect it does it too.

On Tue 02 Sep 2008 12:55:08p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when
you
>>>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press
that
>>>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>>>
>>>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>>>
>>>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>>>
>>>>your pal,
>>>>blake
>>>
>>> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
>>> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>>
>> It doesn't work in Xnews.
>
> Check into news.software.reades, Wayne. I'm sure there will be an answer
> there for you. Besides my recommendation, I think blake will vouch for
> the quality of the group. And while it's not specific to Xnews, it's the
> de facto support group for Xnews.
>
>

Thanks, Blinky, I'll do that.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 12:55:08p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when
> you
>>>>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press
> that
>>>>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>>>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>>>>
>>>>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>>>>
>>>>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>>>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>>>>
>>>>>your pal,
>>>>>blake
>>>>
>>>> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
>>>> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>>>
>>> It doesn't work in Xnews.
>>
>> Check into news.software.reades, Wayne. I'm sure there will be an answer
>> there for you. Besides my recommendation, I think blake will vouch for
>> the quality of the group. And while it's not specific to Xnews, it's the
>> de facto support group for Xnews.
>
> Thanks, Blinky, I'll do that.

See you there. I've used and promoted Xnews for years. I just don't
remember the solution for you with this.

If I have not mentioned my Xnews resources links:

http://blinkynet.net/comp/ndx_windows.html#xnews

That's for you, too, blake.


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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 05:47:43p, DK told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 12:46:28p, Janet Baraclough told us...
>>>
>>>> The message 0>
>>>> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these words:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Janet, I was not defending top posting,
>>>> Sorry Wayne <strokes Wayne's feathers smooth> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Janet
>>> That felt so good! :-)
>>>
>> <Hurl>
>
> Jealous?
>

No, just feeling a little ill.

-dk

On Tue 02 Sep 2008 02:49:28p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 12:55:08p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when
>> you
>>>>>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press
>> that
>>>>>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>>>>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>>>>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>your pal,
>>>>>>blake
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
>>>>> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't work in Xnews.
>>>
>>> Check into news.software.reades, Wayne. I'm sure there will be an
answer
>>> there for you. Besides my recommendation, I think blake will vouch for
>>> the quality of the group. And while it's not specific to Xnews, it's
the
>>> de facto support group for Xnews.
>>
>> Thanks, Blinky, I'll do that.
>
> See you there. I've used and promoted Xnews for years. I just don't
> remember the solution for you with this.
>
> If I have not mentioned my Xnews resources links:
>
> http://blinkynet.net/comp/ndx_windows.html#xnews
>
> That's for you, too, blake.

Blinky, I submitted a questions about this to news.software.readers, so
we'll see what someone might come up with.

I've also used XNews for years and, IIRC, earlier version did default the
cursor to the end of a reply. At some point (I don't remember when), I
believe it was changed to the beginning.

It's not really a big deal, since I don't usually top post, and it's easy
to move the cursor. It would just be nice to know if it can be changed.

Thanks again!


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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 02:49:28p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 12:55:08p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>>
>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 02 Sep 2008 01:14:58p, The Cook told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:14 GMT, blake murphy
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:36:16p, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:12:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun 31 Aug 2008 11:15:38a, blake murphy told us...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for what it's worth, 40tude dialog doesn't 'put' the cursor
>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It has to be somewhere. When you open a "reply", where is the
>>>>>>>>>> cursor sitting?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it sitting in exactly the same place on the screen as it was when
>>> you
>>>>>>>>> hit the 'f' key to reply. if you go up to the toolbar and press
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> button, the cursor stays up there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly
>>>>>>>> allows you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have
>>>>>>>somewhere in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>your pal,
>>>>>>>blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course <CTL> End gets you to the bottom in Agent. I just checked
>>>>>> and in WordPerfect it does it too.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't work in Xnews.
>>>>
>>>> Check into news.software.reades, Wayne. I'm sure there will be an
> answer
>>>> there for you. Besides my recommendation, I think blake will vouch for
>>>> the quality of the group. And while it's not specific to Xnews, it's
> the
>>>> de facto support group for Xnews.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Blinky, I'll do that.
>>
>> See you there. I've used and promoted Xnews for years. I just don't
>> remember the solution for you with this.
>>
>> If I have not mentioned my Xnews resources links:
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/comp/ndx_windows.html#xnews
>>
>> That's for you, too, blake.
>
> Blinky, I submitted a questions about this to news.software.readers, so
> we'll see what someone might come up with.

I already responded to it, passively introducing you to the group.

> I've also used XNews for years and, IIRC, earlier version did default the
> cursor to the end of a reply. At some point (I don't remember when), I
> believe it was changed to the beginning.
>
> It's not really a big deal, since I don't usually top post, and it's easy
> to move the cursor. It would just be nice to know if it can be changed.

Of course. Letting/making computers do stuff *for* us is what computing
is all about. Just like letting software do the filtering so that you
don't have to do it yourself.


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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:49:32 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>>
>> with all due respect, i think people got peeved with janis because she said
>> top-posting was the *right* way and gave a cite that didn't really back
>> that up.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> To tell the truth, I have not been following the thread that closely so
> I was unaware that anybody was POed at her. The number of characters
> here is most epic so I really have not sorted out who are the bad guys
> here are yet but don't tell me, I wanna find out for myself!
>
> Ain't you worried that you might hurt someone's feelings by not using
> the shift key?

not in the slightest.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:52:22 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> fOn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> Well, that's different than any other I've seen, but it certainly allows
>>> you to move it anywhere you want to.
>>
>> well, sure, but so does putting it at the top.
>>
>> i don't know about x-news, but most (or some) readers would have somewhere
>> in options a choice for where you want it placed.
>
> I really don't know what the problem is with top posting, but if it is a
> real taboo I have to wonder why mail readers give you the option.
> AFIAC you have to be pretty anal to worry about it.

top posted replies are harder to understand. if you want to irritate
people, go nuts.

your pal,
blake