On Wed 27 Aug 2008 09:38:17a, Peter told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 5.250...
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:30:58a, Giusi told us...
>>
>>> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
>>> when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I
>>> don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>>
>>> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
>>> together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
>>> grateful.
>>> Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things
>>> you show up with.
>>>
>>> So how do you feel? Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
>>> raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>>
>> Grateful... And I would probably annouce to my guests that said friend
>> has
>> graciously brought along some curry and would anyone like to have some.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> I agree, Wayne. We're not so snobbish that we would scoff at something
> that didn't pair well with the wine, nobody cares, atleast not my
> friends. More flavours, 'more better'. We all like food, but like like
> the company better and don't fret over such things.

Exactly so, Ed.

> We will even drink red with chicken if thats what happens to show up and
> it somehow happens to get corked... oh the horror of generous guests!

That, too.

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On Aug 27, 4:30*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and when
> it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What I don't get
> is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>
> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go together.
> If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. *Even Miss
> Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up with.
>
> So how do you feel? *Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss raclette,
> how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
> --http://www.judithgreenwood.com

I't think your guest was not firing on all cylinders. In fact, under
normal circumstanaces I'd be insulted that someone thought I was not
able to provide the meal if I had issued the invitation.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Aug 27, 7:40*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> ha scritto nel messaggionews:adeab4ldrrgaraviv7n1kbf4679f43crhr@4 ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:42:53 -0400, Stan Horwitz >
> > wrote:
>
> >>I have never had that happen, although I don't entertain at home a lot
> >>and that situation has never come up. I would just put the unexpected
> >>food away for another meal and thank the person who brought it.
>
> > I had been invited to a good friends house that was an excellent cook.
> > The finest of everything, wine, ingredients, etc. * Her failure was
> > baking.
>
> > I just baked some of the finest snowflake rolls and arrived with them
> > hot from the oven. * *She was gracious and said thank you. * Then she
> > proceeded to put her Hostess brown and serve rolls on the table. * I
> > haven't bothered taking anything again.
>
> > Oh...and a store apple pie finished the meal.
>
> So she got your message that you don't trust her to feed you! *

My thought too.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Aug 27, 11:10*am, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 07:52:32a, blake murphy told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:30:58 +0200, Giusi wrote:
>
> >> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
> >> when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What I
> >> don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>
> >> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
> >> together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
> >> grateful. *Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to
> >> serve things you show up with.
>
> > this is a good point, with particular reference to wine.
>
> > of course, miss manners has more (and better behaved) guests than i do.
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> I sometimes wonder of Miss Manners ever actually has guests.

Would you have enough nerve to be her dinner guest? Being interogated
in Guantanamo sounds like a better option.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:15:02a, John Kane told us...

> On Aug 27, 11:10*am, Wayne Boatwright >
> wrote:
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 07:52:32a, blake murphy told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:30:58 +0200, Giusi wrote:
>>
>> >> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
>> >> when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What
> I
>> >> don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>
>> >> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
>> >> together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
>> >> grateful. *Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to
>> >> serve things you show up with.
>>
>> > this is a good point, with particular reference to wine.
>>
>> > of course, miss manners has more (and better behaved) guests than i
do.
>>
>> > your pal,
>> > blake
>>
>> I sometimes wonder of Miss Manners ever actually has guests.
>
> Would you have enough nerve to be her dinner guest? Being interogated
> in Guantanamo sounds like a better option.
>
> John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>

I'd probably have better luck with Queen Elizabeth II. :-) At least I
understand royal protocol.

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:10 -0400, John Kane wrote
(in article
>):
Oh pleazzzzzze. I can't believe that it is even an issue. If this is the
biggest problem in life that someone brought something to my dinner party
that I didn't want nor ask for, life would be grand. I think that if someone
brings something unexpected you can deal with it. I mean if egos are THAT
fragile that we have to prove that WE are the CHEFs damnit, then it isn't the
guests problem.

J.


> On Aug 27, 4:30*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
>> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and when
>> it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What I don't get
>> is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>
>> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go together.
>> If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. *Even Miss
>> Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up with.
>>
>> So how do you feel? *Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss raclette,
>> how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>> --http://www.judithgreenwood.com
>
> I't think your guest was not firing on all cylinders. In fact, under
> normal circumstanaces I'd be insulted that someone thought I was not
> able to provide the meal if I had issued the invitation.
>
> John Kane Kingston ON Canada

Giusi > wrote:

>I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and when
>it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I don't get
>is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.

I don't get this either but I see it all the time.

It's acceptable to bring something shelf-stable, such as
a box of chocolates, under these circumstances -- the hose
can set it aside somewhere. Or of course wine or spirits.
Beer is a bit of a nuisance, it needs to go into the
refrigerator and someone might drink it.

But bringing perishable food, say a salad, is wrong if one
is asked not to bring food. Should be obvious.

Steve

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:30:57a, Janis told us...

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:10 -0400, John Kane wrote
> (in article
> >):
> Oh pleazzzzzze. I can't believe that it is even an issue. If this is
> the biggest problem in life that someone brought something to my dinner
> party that I didn't want nor ask for, life would be grand. I think that
> if someone brings something unexpected you can deal with it. I mean if
> egos are THAT fragile that we have to prove that WE are the CHEFs
> damnit, then it isn't the guests problem.
>
> J.

I wholeheartedly agree!

>
>> On Aug 27, 4:30*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
>>> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
>>> when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What I
>>> don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>>
>>> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
>>> together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
>>> grateful. *Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to
>>> serve things you show up with.
>>>
>>> So how do you feel? *Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
>>> raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>>> --http://www.judithgreenwood.com
>>
>> I't think your guest was not firing on all cylinders. In fact, under
>> normal circumstanaces I'd be insulted that someone thought I was not
>> able to provide the meal if I had issued the invitation.
>>
>> John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>
>
>



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On Aug 27, 7:55*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:16:27 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> > If it was a good friend (or family member) you might say, "John/Joan, I
> > thought I *told* you not to bring any food? I've already got enough
> > here to feed an army. You know I love your curry, but we're having
> > Mexican tonight, or didn't I mention that when I invited you? But this
> > will come in very handy for tomorrow or the next day, so thanks very
> > much." *;-)
>
> > OTOH, if it's a 'business' dinner and the Boss brings something that you
> > didn't ask for, it might be wise to thank him/her politely and put it
> > on the table with the other stuff, because to refuse could be a severe
> > Career Limiting Move, IMHO. <very evil grin>
>
> does 'having the boss over for dinner' ever really happen outside of
> fifties sitcoms and comic strips? *today, i'd guess ****ing the boss is
> more common.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Speaking as a boss - neither seems to be very common these days.

Susan B.

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:09:10a, John Kane told us...

> On Aug 27, 4:30*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
>> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
whe
> n
>> it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. *What I don't
> get
>> is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>
>> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
together.
>> If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. *Even Mi
> ss
>> Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up
wi
> th.
>>
>> So how do you feel? *Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss racle
> tte,
>> how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>> --http://www.judithgreenwood.com
>
> I't think your guest was not firing on all cylinders. In fact, under
> normal circumstanaces I'd be insulted that someone thought I was not
> able to provide the meal if I had issued the invitation.

I doubt seriously that the thought of your not being able to privde the
meal was at all in the mind of the guest. Whatever someone might bring, it
is a gesture of thanks and generosity.

It seems too many people are horses that are way too high.

> John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>



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Peter wrote:
>
> We will even drink red with chicken if that's what happens to show up and it
> somehow happens to get corked... oh the horror of generous guests!


There it is again. "Corked" to mean bottle of wine opened, as in cork
removed.


Until a few weeks ago, "corked" always meant spoiled to me, as in a
chemical process having to do with the cork making the wine unpalateable.


(Google isn't working for me, or I'd find a quick explanation of the
chemical process and point y'all to it. Alas, I'm googleless until the
resident computer wizard comes to my rescue.


Words change. Language changes. As much as I like to stick to the old
ways, I'm willing to update my usage.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler > wrote:

>Until a few weeks ago, "corked" always meant spoiled to me, as in a
>chemical process having to do with the cork making the wine unpalateable.

That's what it means, and I've been a wine lover for decades
and have never been able to figure out what, exactly, people
might be talking about when they say a wine is corked.
Does it mean the wine has oxidized or lost fill? Is
it an off flavor, if so is it any off flavor, or stemming
from some particular process? The claims are one in fifty,
or one in twenty wines are corked. If so, I've drunk a
fair number of them; which ones were they, and what did
they taste like?

Consistent information is lacking.

Steve

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.247...
> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:30:57a, Janis told us...
>
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:10 -0400, John Kane wrote
>> (in article
>> >):
>> Oh pleazzzzzze. I can't believe that it is even an issue. If this is
>> the biggest problem in life that someone brought something to my dinner
>> party that I didn't want nor ask for, life would be grand. I think that
>> if someone brings something unexpected you can deal with it. I mean if
>> egos are THAT fragile that we have to prove that WE are the CHEFs
>> damnit, then it isn't the guests problem.
>>
>> J.
>
> I wholeheartedly agree!
>

Count me on that vote.

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Come on over:
>
> http://i37.tinypic.com/ju8l03.jpg
>
> Bring your suits ... the neighbors have small children.
>
> nancy

Looks lovely nancy. Although I haven't put on a bathing suit in years...
Too scared that the water would jump out of the pool in fright if I
did ;-)
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
> Peter wrote:
>> We will even drink red with chicken if that's what happens to show up
>> and it somehow happens to get corked... oh the horror of generous
>> guests!
>
>
> There it is again. "Corked" to mean bottle of wine opened, as in cork
> removed.
>
>
> Until a few weeks ago, "corked" always meant spoiled to me, as in a
> chemical process having to do with the cork making the wine unpalateable.
>
>
> (Google isn't working for me, or I'd find a quick explanation of the
> chemical process and point y'all to it. Alas, I'm googleless until the
> resident computer wizard comes to my rescue.
>
>
> Words change. Language changes. As much as I like to stick to the old
> ways, I'm willing to update my usage.
>
>
> --Lia
>


Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably termed it
wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened a bottle' would
be better.

Maybe there is a wine snob terminology list I can look at inbetween fighting
the "BBQ'ing vs Grilling" terms war ;-)

"Janis" > wrote in message
la.org...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:10 -0400, John Kane wrote
> (in article
> >):
> Oh pleazzzzzze. I can't believe that it is even an issue. If this is the
> biggest problem in life that someone brought something to my dinner party
> that I didn't want nor ask for, life would be grand. I think that if
> someone
> brings something unexpected you can deal with it. I mean if egos are THAT
> fragile that we have to prove that WE are the CHEFs damnit, then it isn't
> the
> guests problem.
>
> J.

I think a better plan is to make an example of the offending guest. Shackle
them to the front step railing as a warning to the next person carrying
food. If you don't like what I'm serving, stay the hell away from my
house. Problem solved.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and when
>it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I don't get
>is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>
> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go together.
> If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. Even Miss
> Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up
> with.
>
> So how do you feel? Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
> raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
> --
> http://www.judithgreenwood.com
I have never had this problem.

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
>>Until a few weeks ago, "corked" always meant spoiled to me, as in a
>>chemical process having to do with the cork making the wine unpalateable.
>
> That's what it means, and I've been a wine lover for decades
> and have never been able to figure out what, exactly, people
> might be talking about when they say a wine is corked.
> Does it mean the wine has oxidized or lost fill? Is
> it an off flavor, if so is it any off flavor, or stemming
> from some particular process? The claims are one in fifty,
> or one in twenty wines are corked. If so, I've drunk a
> fair number of them; which ones were they, and what did
> they taste like?
>
> Consistent information is lacking.
>
> Steve

Maybe, just plain old describing 'it' would work. "This wine tastes
spoiled, I think the cork did not seal properly" or even better, "I can
tell the cork was not sealed properly, this wine is spoiled" ;-)

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:58:11 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
>>Until a few weeks ago, "corked" always meant spoiled to me, as in a
>>chemical process having to do with the cork making the wine unpalateable.
>
> That's what it means, and I've been a wine lover for decades
> and have never been able to figure out what, exactly, people
> might be talking about when they say a wine is corked.
> Does it mean the wine has oxidized or lost fill? Is
> it an off flavor, if so is it any off flavor, or stemming
> from some particular process? The claims are one in fifty,
> or one in twenty wines are corked. If so, I've drunk a
> fair number of them; which ones were they, and what did
> they taste like?
>
> Consistent information is lacking.
>
> Steve

IME if a wine is oxidized, it takes on a sherry-like flavour. OTOH cork
taint for any wine will produce a mouldy, dank and musty aroma that
resembles wet cardboard or a mildew-infested basement.
Graham

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.247...
> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 10:15:02a, John Kane told us...
>
>> On Aug 27, 11:10 am, Wayne Boatwright >
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 07:52:32a, blake murphy told us...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:30:58 +0200, Giusi wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
>>> >> when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What
>> I
>>> >> don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>>
>>> >> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
>>> >> together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
>>> >> grateful. Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to
>>> >> serve things you show up with.
>>>
>>> > this is a good point, with particular reference to wine.
>>>
>>> > of course, miss manners has more (and better behaved) guests than i
> do.
>>>
>>> > your pal,
>>> > blake
>>>
>>> I sometimes wonder of Miss Manners ever actually has guests.
>>
>> Would you have enough nerve to be her dinner guest? Being interogated
>> in Guantanamo sounds like a better option.
>>
>> John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>>
>
> I'd probably have better luck with Queen Elizabeth II. :-) At least I
> understand royal protocol.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

To the contrary, Miss Manners is all about making everyone feel comfortable.
Which includes observing certain boundaries regarding personal questions,
monetary requests, and lumbering people with unwanted food then demanding
that they eat it on the spot.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 07:58:06a, blake murphy told us...
>
>
>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:25:33 -0400, Billy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:42:53 -0400, Stan Horwitz >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have never had that happen, although I don't entertain at home a lot
>>>>and that situation has never come up. I would just put the unexpected
>>>>food away for another meal and thank the person who brought it.
>>>
>>>I had been invited to a good friends house that was an excellent cook.
>>>The finest of everything, wine, ingredients, etc. Her failure was
>>>baking.
>>>
>>>I just baked some of the finest snowflake rolls and arrived with them
>>>hot from the oven. She was gracious and said thank you. Then she
>>>proceeded to put her Hostess brown and serve rolls on the table. I
>>>haven't bothered taking anything again.
>>>
>>>Oh...and a store apple pie finished the meal.
>>
>>i would say that's her privilege.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>>
>
>
> If I had the hostess' lack of baking skills, I would have more than
> welcomed some nice fresh-baked homemade rolls to serve instead of the brown
> and serve rolls she bought.
>

I'd have served both. Homemade baked goods are a treat but some of my
friends and family like those brown-n-serve rolls. They're a childhood
holiday favorite - comfort food.

Thanksgiving just isn't Thanksgiving without redneck rolls.

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 12:47:01p, Kathleen told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> If I had the hostess' lack of baking skills, I would have more than
>> welcomed some nice fresh-baked homemade rolls to serve instead of the
>> brown and serve rolls she bought.
>>
>
> I'd have served both. Homemade baked goods are a treat but some of my
> friends and family like those brown-n-serve rolls. They're a childhood
> holiday favorite - comfort food.
>
> Thanksgiving just isn't Thanksgiving without redneck rolls.

Funny you should mention that. I've always made homemade rolls, usually
Parker House or cloverleaf rolls, for holidays. That is, until I met my
partner, who insisted we have brown and serve rolls. It was his family's
tradition. Now we have both.



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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 09:38:17a, Peter told us...
>
>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 185.250...
>>
>>>On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:30:58a, Giusi told us...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
>>>>when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I
>>>>don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
>>>>
>>>>When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
>>>>together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
>>>>grateful.
>>>> Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things
>>>>you show up with.
>>>>
>>>>So how do you feel? Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
>>>>raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>>>
>>>Grateful... And I would probably annouce to my guests that said friend
>>>has
>>>graciously brought along some curry and would anyone like to have some.
>>>
>>>--
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>>
>>I agree, Wayne. We're not so snobbish that we would scoff at something
>>that didn't pair well with the wine, nobody cares, atleast not my
>>friends. More flavours, 'more better'. We all like food, but like like
>>the company better and don't fret over such things.
>
>
> Exactly so, Ed.
>
>
>>We will even drink red with chicken if thats what happens to show up and
>>it somehow happens to get corked... oh the horror of generous guests!
>
>
> That, too.
>

While we were in Spain, one optional outing was a trip to a fishing
village near Torremolinos for a seafood feast. Our group was seated at
several large table and the food was served family style - you helped
yourself to whatever looked good. Bottles of both red and white wine
were placed on the tables and were replaced as quickly as they were
finished. The main course was some sort of giant fish (probably
grouper) that had been baked in salt.

Mom, Sis and I were seated next to a pair of Canadian sisters, farmers
who were also dog people, and an anesthesiologist and his wife. By the
end of the evening we were all laughing the way you do when you're in
6th grade and your friend says something that makes milk come out your
nose. Good thing we had a designated driver for the tour bus; everybody
was squiffed.

As we were preparing to leave, one of the Canadian sisters dashed back
to the table, poured the last of the white wine into her glass, topped
it off with the remainder of the red and tossed it back. She rejoined
us as we were boarding the bus, grinned broadly and said, "Waste not,
want not".

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "Ophelia" > :
> in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>
>>Salted peanuts *in* the shell? How do you salt them if they are still
>>in the shell.
>>
>>O who has never heard of such wonderments
>
>
> You are asking the wrong person on that one The bag said salted peanuts
> in the shell. Whole peanuts, like the ones you would pickle.

I think they're boiled or at least soaked in salt water prior to being
roasted.

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:45:13p, Kathleen told us...

> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> "Ophelia" > :
>> in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>
>>
>>>Salted peanuts *in* the shell? How do you salt them if they are still
>>>in the shell.
>>>
>>>O who has never heard of such wonderments
>>
>>
>> You are asking the wrong person on that one The bag said salted
>> peanuts in the shell. Whole peanuts, like the ones you would pickle.
>
> I think they're boiled or at least soaked in salt water prior to being
> roasted.
>
>

Yes, you are right. They are generally boiled in salted water before
roasting. My grandmother used to make these often, as they always raised
some peanuts each year.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 07:44:53a, ChattyCathy told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 05:37:39a, Nancy Young told us...
>>>> I know it was an example, but no one had better show up at my
>>>> house with curry.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, thank you, how thoughtful! I'll set up a place setting on the
>>>> patio outside where you can enjoy it and I don't have to smell
>>>> it. (laugh)
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Curry...love it or hate it! :-) Personally, I've never met a curry I
>>> didn't like. I'll sit on the patio. :-)
>>>
>> Keep some for me ;-) I especially like Thai curries, but any curry will
>> do.
>>
>
> We can have our own little curry party on Nancy's patio!
>


I'll be there!

gloria p

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> "Giusi" > :
> in rec.food.cooking
>
> > I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
> > when it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I
> > don't get is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
> >
> > When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
> > together. If you show up with something off plan I will not be
> > grateful. Even Miss Manners says a host is under no obligation to
> > serve things you show up with.
> >
> > So how do you feel? Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
> > raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?
>
> I personally wouldn't do it unless it was a gift for the host(s). I'd
> explain it was a gift for the host and certainly not expected to be served
> with the party food. Same with wine. I'll sometimes take wine to a
dinner
> or a party and explain that I don't expect it to be served right then
> unless they want to. It is a personal gift to them for throwing a great
> bash.


Flowers or some nice chocolates make a nice hostess gift, too...

I won't' take food to a 'do' unless the host specifically asks (and besides
I'll also always ask). Sometimes there is a set menu and so additional food
is not needed or desired...


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blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:30:58 +0200, Giusi wrote:
>
> > I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and
when
> > it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I don't
get
> > is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.
> >
> > When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go
together.
> > If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. Even
Miss
> > Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up
with.
> >
>
> this is a good point, with particular reference to wine.
>
> of course, miss manners has more (and better behaved) guests than i do.
>


I remember seeing Miss Manner's house in Georgetown about a decade ago and
her yard was 'messy'...


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"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Peter wrote:
>
>> Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably termed it
>> wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened a bottle'
>> would be better.
>>
> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?

Sure, it would be. However, it seems people use the term 'corked' for wine
gone bad, should not that be used for "putting the cork on the bottle"?

Kathleen wrote:

> I'd have served both. Homemade baked goods are a treat but some of my
> friends and family like those brown-n-serve rolls. They're a childhood
> holiday favorite - comfort food.
>
> Thanksgiving just isn't Thanksgiving without redneck rolls.

Redneck rolls? LOL

Becca

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 02:53:43p, Peter told us...

>
> "Goomba" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably termed
>>> it wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened a
>>> bottle' would be better.
>>>
>> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?
>
> Sure, it would be. However, it seems people use the term 'corked' for
> wine gone bad, should not that be used for "putting the cork on the
> bottle"?
>
>

I know people who are definitely corked. It might be good if they were put
in the bottle.

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Steve Pope wrote:
>
> That's what it means, and I've been a wine lover for decades
> and have never been able to figure out what, exactly, people
> might be talking about when they say a wine is corked.
> Does it mean the wine has oxidized or lost fill? Is
> it an off flavor, if so is it any off flavor, or stemming
> from some particular process? The claims are one in fifty,
> or one in twenty wines are corked. If so, I've drunk a
> fair number of them; which ones were they, and what did
> they taste like?
>
> Consistent information is lacking.


My google is working again!


This page seems to have a concise, understandable explanation:

http://www.cellarnotes.net/corked_wine.htm


Wikipedia was a little technical for my knowledge of chemistry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_taint


I liked this page too:

http://nymag.com/restaurants/article...ls/badwine.htm


And now, a funny story. When I was working in the wine and cheese shop,
we had the usual policy of taking back any wine that was corked, no
questions asked. The store gave the customer back his money. The
vendors gave the store back its money.


We had one customer who found corked bottles all the time. He'd come
in, buy, and be back within the week with the bottle, always with the
complaint that it was corked. He frequently accepted a different label
instead of his money back.


Trouble was, no one else could taste the problem. Not the (experienced)
owner, not the (even more experienced) vendors. Finally, the owner came
up with a new policy. When corked bottles were returned, they were
replaced with another bottle from the same case. That's the same label.
We explained that it must have happened to just that one bottle.


Problem solved. The customer's exquisite taste buds were cured, and he
stopped coming back with so many corked bottles. Apparently he'd
figured out that "corked" in English meant "I'd like to try something else."


--Lia

"Giusi" wrote

>I have been reading about people liking to bring food to parties, and when
>it is that kind of party, I think that's great: to offer. What I don't get
>is when host says no and the guest brings food anyway.

It's a bit rude if the invite was clear, unless it's some side item not
expected to be served with the dinner. Like 'Guisi, had a good crop of
heirloom carrots and broght you a few for lunch tomorrow since I know you
mentioned you like them'

> When I plan a dinner I plan a menu of foods and flavors that go together.
> If you show up with something off plan I will not be grateful. Even Miss
> Manners says a host is under no obligation to serve things you show up
> with.

Ms Manners isnt always totally right. This is possibly more a cultural
thing in interpretation though. If I send and invite and say 'just want
your company' this may not clearly indicate 'bring no food' and in that
case, to not offer it up at the side, would be 'rude'.

Now lets look from another angle. Guest with some sort of serious dietary
restrictions that you do not know about (or do not know how to accomodate),
especially combined with your not listing the menu. They are apt to decline
politely but if they do show, might bring something they know they can eat
and a bit extra for others if interested. To not allow it, would be rude.
Specific example: Recent cookout, grandkid with multiple severe alleries to
just about everything. Parent brought things the kid could eat and this was
appropriate.

> So how do you feel? Of you are serving a Mexican meal or a Swiss
> raclette, how would you feel about someone showing up with a curry?

I generally do not do themed meals but if i did, I'd list it on the invite
and say 'I'm doing a themed meal this time so if you have a special dish
that you make along this line, you are welcome to bring it but we really
just want your company so no dish expected'. Then, no matter *what* they
brought, it would go out there as an option. Even a high spiced Indian
curry with a mexican meal <grin>.

Cultural thing here is you are talking with a 'Southerner' (USA) and to us,
it is very 'odd' to not bring a little something. In fact, it's very odd to
ask folks not to but would be accepted. You'd probably end up with a few
bottles of wine or jelly for later use (grin) anyways.

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Peter wrote:
>
> > Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably termed it
> > wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened a bottle' would
> > be better.
> >
> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?


Do you thaw meat or do you unthaw meat? :-)
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On Wed 27 Aug 2008 05:33:00p, Melba's Jammin' told us...

> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>> > Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably
>> > termed it wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened
>> > a bottle' would be better.
>> >
>> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?
>
>
> Do you thaw meat or do you unthaw meat? :-)

Oh, I really hate when someone says "unthaw". Almost as much as when they
says their turning the air conditioner "up" to make it cooler, or "down" to
make it warmer. Heck, I learned the correct terminology about those things
when I was five.

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Goomba > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> It's acceptable to bring something shelf-stable, such as
>> a box of chocolates, under these circumstances -- the host
>> can set it aside somewhere. Or of course wine or spirits.
>> Beer is a bit of a nuisance, it needs to go into the
>> refrigerator and someone might drink it.

>> But bringing perishable food, say a salad, is wrong if one
>> is asked not to bring food. Should be obvious.

>Your first example is okay because you've gifted the host or hostess
>with something they're not expected to serve, and it is intended for
>their enjoyment in the days to come. It is a hostess gift, not something
>intended for the current meal everyone has assembled for.

Yep.

The example given upthread, of bringing freshly baked rolls,
seems like the opposite -- something that is of little value
unless served on the spot. But I'm sure it was well-intended.

Steve

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably termed it
>>> wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened a bottle' would
>>> be better.
>>>
>> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?
>
>
> Do you thaw meat or do you unthaw meat? :-)

letsee.. I either thaw meat or freeze it. Did I have another option? LOL

On Wed 27 Aug 2008 06:58:40p, Goomba told us...

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Goomba > wrote:
>>
>>> Peter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lia, you are likely right, I'm not a wine person and I probably
>>>> termed it wrong. I guess saying 'popped the cork' or simply 'opened
>>>> a bottle' would be better.
>>>>
>>> Wouldn't "de-corked" be what you do when you remove the cork?
>>
>>
>> Do you thaw meat or do you unthaw meat? :-)
>
> letsee.. I either thaw meat or freeze it. Did I have another option? LOL
>

You could just eat it, and not worry about either process. :-)

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Barb wrote:

> Please, come to my home empty handed. You want to make me happy to see
> you, bring me some flowers or a box of Frango mints, but don't bring
> your favorite dessert. And if you've asked if you may, been told no,
> thank you, and you were kind to offer, and you do it anyway, shame on
> you.

I'd stop by a trophy shop and bring a bunch of blue ribbons for you. :-)

Bob

Janet wrote:

> To the contrary, Miss Manners is all about making everyone feel
> comfortable.

I think there's a blurring here between the concepts of mannerly, sociable,
and convivial. When I think of "mannerly," I think of the formal dinners I
attended as a naval officer, where strict dining protocol was observed.
Sure, there was some interesting conversation, but decorum was the
overriding concern for those in attendance. When I think of "sociable," I
think of getting together with some acquaintances in order to get to know
them better. When I think of "convivial," I think of a group of friends
sitting around a table laughing at shared memories.

Obviously, the convivial gathering is the most comfortable, while the
[merely] mannerly gathering is the least. But manners at least provide a
framework for interaction.

Bob