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I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.

Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
and grilled peaches.

I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
or taste gamey?

Do you like guinea hens?
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"Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
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>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>
> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
> and grilled peaches.
>
> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?
>
> Do you like guinea hens?


The meat bird chicks sold around here are cornish rock crosses. Does that
make them close to guinea hens?


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Tamzen Cannoy wrote:
> I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>
> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
> and grilled peaches.
>
> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?
>
> Do you like guinea hens?

when we lived in the country we had guineas. Love them in a nice gumbo
and ain't bad fried or baked. They're not farmed more probably because
people think they are game birds, which, in their native Africa, they
are. They're hard to keep on a farm too as they will tend to roost 80
feet up a tree and they hide their nests quite well. A real PITA to have
to hunt the eggs and the birds.

Walk up on a flock of guineas roosting in a tree in the dark and you can
really wet your pants when they all scream at once. <VBG>
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"Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
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>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>
> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
> and grilled peaches.
>
> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?
>
> Do you like guinea hens?


Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had them
in Italy.


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On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:01:11p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...

>
> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along
>> with chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>
>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked
>> potatoes and grilled peaches.
>>
>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>> birds or taste gamey?
>>
>> Do you like guinea hens?

>
> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had
> them in Italy.


I have never eaten one, although my grandmother used to raise a few. I was
told that they have *very* dark meat, almost black. Is that true?


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

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> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
>> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>
>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
>> and grilled peaches.
>>
>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
>> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
>> or taste gamey?
>>
>> Do you like guinea hens?

>
> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had them
> in Italy.


If you're willing to spend 15 bucks per pound:

http://tinyurl.com/5lkyo7

They also sell guinea hen breasts.


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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:03:20 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:01:11p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...
>
>>
>> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
>>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along
>>> with chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>>
>>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked
>>> potatoes and grilled peaches.
>>>
>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>> birds or taste gamey?
>>>
>>> Do you like guinea hens?

>>
>> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had
>> them in Italy.

>
> I have never eaten one, although my grandmother used to raise a few. I was
> told that they have *very* dark meat, almost black. Is that true?


No! And i agree with the OP, they are delish!
Graham
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:03:20 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:01:11p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I
>>>>grew
>>>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along
>>>> with chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>>>
>>>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked
>>>> potatoes and grilled peaches.
>>>>
>>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>>> birds or taste gamey?
>>>>
>>>> Do you like guinea hens?
>>>
>>> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had
>>> them in Italy.

>>
>> I have never eaten one, although my grandmother used to raise a few. I
>> was told that they have *very* dark meat, almost black. Is that true?

>
> No! And i agree with the OP, they are delish!
> Graham
>


Thanks, Graham.

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:41:55 -0500, George Shirley
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>You don't even need to feed guineas, they're great scavengers and good
>for getting bugs out of a garden.


They need quality feed....but they also have eliminated our wood tick
problem.
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George Shirley wrote:

> zxcvbob wrote:
>> If you mix a few in with your flock of chickens, do they roost with the
>> chickens or do they roost in the trees?

>
> They go their own way and roost in the trees. You can't keep them in a
> chicken pen unless you clip one of their wings so they can't fly.


Need a punch line?

Well, they *can* -- but they can only get four inches off the ground
and all they can do is very tight circles.


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Tamzen Cannoy > wrote:

> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?


Guinea fowl is easy to get here. I can get it any day of the week in
one of my regular groceries. One has to know exactly what one is
buying, though. Free-range guinea fowl has a taste of its own, somewhat
resembling feasant. Like feasant, it can sometimes be a bit bland,
though generally still more flavourful than "regular"c chicken. If
intensively-farmed, it tends to be little different from a
run-of-the-mill chicken.

Victor
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On Wed 27 Aug 2008 02:38:43p, Graham told us...

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:39 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:23:49p, Graham told us...
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:03:20 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:01:11p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I
>>>>>>grew
>>>>>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along
>>>>>> with chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked
>>>>>> potatoes and grilled peaches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite

pricy.
>>>>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>>>>> birds or taste gamey?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you like guinea hens?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've

had
>>>>> them in Italy.
>>>>
>>>> I have never eaten one, although my grandmother used to raise a few.

I
>>>> was told that they have *very* dark meat, almost black. Is that true?
>>>
>>> No! And i agree with the OP, they are delish!
>>> Graham
>>>

>>
>> Thanks, Graham.

>
> If you look for recipes, it's pintade in French.
> While staying with friends in France, we visited a butcher in a nearby

town
> and bought one for supper. We had to wait while he trussed it etc. and
> wrapped it up but it was a pleasure to watch someone with skills that one
> finds all too rarely these days. A poly tray and gladwrap just doesn't
> measure up.
> Graham
>


Sounds like a great experience. Thanks, Graham.

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Graham wrote:
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> If you look for recipes, it's pintade in French.
> While staying with friends in France, we visited a butcher in a nearby town
> and bought one for supper. We had to wait while he trussed it etc. and
> wrapped it up but it was a pleasure to watch someone with skills that one
> finds all too rarely these days. A poly tray and gladwrap just doesn't
> measure up.



I tried pintade in a restaurant in Paris. The waiter was very nice
about checking with the chef to give me a translation of the menu.
(Once I knew it was fowl, I thought I'd give it a try whatever it was.)
It tasted like chicken.


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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:31:57 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:

> Graham wrote:
>>
>> If you look for recipes, it's pintade in French.
>> While staying with friends in France, we visited a butcher in a nearby town
>> and bought one for supper. We had to wait while he trussed it etc. and
>> wrapped it up but it was a pleasure to watch someone with skills that one
>> finds all too rarely these days. A poly tray and gladwrap just doesn't
>> measure up.

>
>
> I tried pintade in a restaurant in Paris. The waiter was very nice
> about checking with the chef to give me a translation of the menu.
> (Once I knew it was fowl, I thought I'd give it a try whatever it was.)
> It tasted like chicken.
>
>
> --Lia


Perhaps it was cat{;-)

Seriously though, it wouldn't be that different from a good, farmyard
raised chicken but would certainly have a stronger and better flavour than
the mass-produced muck that we find in most supermarkets.
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On Aug 27, 2:50�pm, Tamzen Cannoy > wrote:
> I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>
> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
> and grilled peaches.
>
> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?
>
> Do you like guinea hens?


I think they're usually called guinea fowl... Giusi is a guinea foul!
hehe


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"Graham" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:39 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:23:49p, Graham told us...
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:03:20 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:01:11p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tamzen Cannoy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I
>>>>>>grew
>>>>>> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along
>>>>>> with chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked
>>>>>> potatoes and grilled peaches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>>>>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>>>>> birds or taste gamey?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you like guinea hens?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I like them but I've never seen one for sale in the US. I've had
>>>>> them in Italy.
>>>>
>>>> I have never eaten one, although my grandmother used to raise a few. I
>>>> was told that they have *very* dark meat, almost black. Is that true?
>>>
>>> No! And i agree with the OP, they are delish!
>>> Graham
>>>

>>
>> Thanks, Graham.

>
> If you look for recipes, it's pintade in French.
> Graham


And in Italian it is faraona, but it is all too unfortunately often
overcooked here and nt nice to eat. I will only order it in a stewed or
braised dish for that reason. It's a rather Jane Fonda looking bird.


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Victor Sack wrote:

> Tamzen Cannoy > wrote:
>
>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>> birds or taste gamey?

>
> Guinea fowl is easy to get here. I can get it any day of the week in
> one of my regular groceries. One has to know exactly what one is
> buying, though. Free-range guinea fowl has a taste of its own,
> somewhat
> resembling feasant.


Feasant? What's that a 'fonetic' fowl?

<sorry, Bubba Vic, just couldn't let that pass>

> Like feasant, it can sometimes be a bit bland,
> though generally still more flavourful than "regular"c chicken. If
> intensively-farmed, it tends to be little different from a
> run-of-the-mill chicken.
>


We have plenty of wild guinea fowl around here, although I've never been
able to catch one, dammit. I've heard they're pretty good eating,
though.

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> Victor Sack wrote:
>
>> Tamzen Cannoy > wrote:
>>
>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>> birds or taste gamey?

>> Guinea fowl is easy to get here. I can get it any day of the week in
>> one of my regular groceries. One has to know exactly what one is
>> buying, though. Free-range guinea fowl has a taste of its own,
>> somewhat
>> resembling feasant.

>
> Feasant? What's that a 'fonetic' fowl?
>
> <sorry, Bubba Vic, just couldn't let that pass>
>
>> Like feasant, it can sometimes be a bit bland,
>> though generally still more flavourful than "regular"c chicken. If
>> intensively-farmed, it tends to be little different from a
>> run-of-the-mill chicken.
>>

>
> We have plenty of wild guinea fowl around here, although I've never been
> able to catch one, dammit. I've heard they're pretty good eating,
> though.
>

It's more sporting and easier to wing shoot them. Sort of like rock
pigeons that live on the ground.
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> They go their own way and roost in the trees. You can't keep them in a
> chicken pen unless you clip one of their wings so they can't fly.
> They're basically a domesticated version of a wild bird and they act
> like it. We never raised the white ones, we always had the gray with
> white speckles. Everyone in SE Texas had a flock of guineas when I was
> a kid. Best watch dogs you can ever have, nothing moves after dark
> without a whole lot of screeching going on.
>
> You don't even need to feed guineas, they're great scavengers and good
> for getting bugs out of a garden.


Agreed. I have 3 lavender guineas. They are a true PITA. We don't let
them roost outside...keep them in the chicken coop with the chickens and
ducks. The usual thinking is they will wander or fly away unless hatched
there or confined. I never thought there'd be anything dumber than a
chicken until I met a guinea.

I hate the thought of killing animals (admitted double standard) but for
$15 a pound, mmmmm. I could hire out the yucky jobs.

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> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
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>> They go their own way and roost in the trees. You can't keep them in a
>> chicken pen unless you clip one of their wings so they can't fly.
>> They're basically a domesticated version of a wild bird and they act
>> like it. We never raised the white ones, we always had the gray with
>> white speckles. Everyone in SE Texas had a flock of guineas when I was
>> a kid. Best watch dogs you can ever have, nothing moves after dark
>> without a whole lot of screeching going on.
>>
>> You don't even need to feed guineas, they're great scavengers and good
>> for getting bugs out of a garden.

>
> Agreed. I have 3 lavender guineas. They are a true PITA. We don't let
> them roost outside...keep them in the chicken coop with the chickens and
> ducks. The usual thinking is they will wander or fly away unless hatched
> there or confined. I never thought there'd be anything dumber than a
> chicken until I met a guinea.
>
> I hate the thought of killing animals (admitted double standard) but for
> $15 a pound, mmmmm. I could hire out the yucky jobs.
>
> bonnie
>
>

Depending on where you are I could whack the birds for you for shares.
<VBG> My karma is shot anyway from butchering so many animals of all
species when I was younger. Nowadays I'm more civilized and buy them
already dead and cut up.


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"rose" > wrote in message
...
>
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> news >
>> They go their own way and roost in the trees. You can't keep them in a
>> chicken pen unless you clip one of their wings so they can't fly. They're
>> basically a domesticated version of a wild bird and they act like it. We
>> never raised the white ones, we always had the gray with white speckles.
>> Everyone in SE Texas had a flock of guineas when I was a kid. Best watch
>> dogs you can ever have, nothing moves after dark without a whole lot of
>> screeching going on.
>>
>> You don't even need to feed guineas, they're great scavengers and good
>> for getting bugs out of a garden.

>
> Agreed. I have 3 lavender guineas. They are a true PITA. We don't let them
> roost outside...keep them in the chicken coop with the chickens and ducks.
> The usual thinking is they will wander or fly away unless hatched there or
> confined. I never thought there'd be anything dumber than a chicken until
> I met a guinea.
>
> I hate the thought of killing animals (admitted double standard) but for
> $15 a pound, mmmmm. I could hire out the yucky jobs.
>
> bonnie

My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps having
a more varied environment makes a difference?


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Janet wrote:

> "rose" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> > news > >
> >> They go their own way and roost in the trees. You can't keep them in a
> >> chicken pen unless you clip one of their wings so they can't fly.

They're
> >> basically a domesticated version of a wild bird and they act like it.

We
> >> never raised the white ones, we always had the gray with white

speckles.
> >> Everyone in SE Texas had a flock of guineas when I was a kid. Best

watch
> >> dogs you can ever have, nothing moves after dark without a whole lot of
> >> screeching going on.
> >>
> >> You don't even need to feed guineas, they're great scavengers and good
> >> for getting bugs out of a garden.

> >
> > Agreed. I have 3 lavender guineas. They are a true PITA. We don't let

them
> > roost outside...keep them in the chicken coop with the chickens and

ducks.
> > The usual thinking is they will wander or fly away unless hatched there

or
> > confined. I never thought there'd be anything dumber than a chicken

until
> > I met a guinea.
> >
> > I hate the thought of killing animals (admitted double standard) but for
> > $15 a pound, mmmmm. I could hire out the yucky jobs.
> >
> > bonnie

> My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps

having
> a more varied environment makes a difference?



Chickens get more mental stimulation when they are running about in a free
environment...I mean chickens can get bored and depressed if they stay all
cooped up...kinda like people do!


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Tamzen Cannoy wrote:
> I love guinea hens. They are a lot more flavorful than chickens. I grew
> up in the country and a lot of people had them in their yards along with
> chickens. They make excellent watch birds too.
>
> Grilled one last night on my vertical beer-can style pan. Baked potatoes
> and grilled peaches.
>
> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy. Do
> most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game birds
> or taste gamey?
>
> Do you like guinea hens?



I had guinea hen once, just last year, and it was delicious. Our host
had bought it in a specialty store. I have never seen it for sale
anywhere around here.
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:09:42 -0400, Janet wrote:

> "rose" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Agreed. I have 3 lavender guineas. They are a true PITA. We don't let them
>> roost outside...keep them in the chicken coop with the chickens and ducks.
>> The usual thinking is they will wander or fly away unless hatched there or
>> confined. I never thought there'd be anything dumber than a chicken until
>> I met a guinea.
>>
>> I hate the thought of killing animals (admitted double standard) but for
>> $15 a pound, mmmmm. I could hire out the yucky jobs.
>>
>> bonnie

> My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps having
> a more varied environment makes a difference?


you could be onto something there. they say it does make a difference with
human children.

your pal,
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blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:09:42 -0400, Janet wrote:


>> My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps having
>> a more varied environment makes a difference?

>
> you could be onto something there. they say it does make a difference with
> human children.
>
> your pal,
> blake


And husbands.

Becca


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Dave Smith wrote:

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>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>> birds or taste gamey?
>>
>> Do you like guinea hens?

>
>
> I had guinea hen once, just last year, and it was delicious. Our host
> had bought it in a specialty store. I have never seen it for sale
> anywhere around here.




I spoke to soon. I was riding my bike to the butcher today and about
half a mile down the road from the butcher shop I passed a farm with a
sign advertising guinea fowl for sale.
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I often wonder why these aren't farmed more. They can be quite pricy.
>>> Do most people just not know about them? Think wrongly they are game
>>> birds or taste gamey?
>>>
>>> Do you like guinea hens?

>>
>>
>> I had guinea hen once, just last year, and it was delicious. Our host
>> had bought it in a specialty store. I have never seen it for sale
>> anywhere around here.

>
>
>
> I spoke to soon. I was riding my bike to the butcher today and about
> half a mile down the road from the butcher shop I passed a farm with a
> sign advertising guinea fowl for sale.

Do they catch them for you or do you have to run them down? Curious
minds and all that. <VBG>
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"Becca" > wrote in message
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> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:09:42 -0400, Janet wrote:

>
>>> My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps
>>> having a more varied environment makes a difference?

>>
>> you could be onto something there. they say it does make a difference
>> with
>> human children.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> And husbands.
>
> Becca


that's so true. Husbands were meant to have many Hens


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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:53:38 -0500, Becca wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:09:42 -0400, Janet wrote:

>
>>> My chickens are free range, and I don't think they are dumb. Perhaps having
>>> a more varied environment makes a difference?

>>
>> you could be onto something there. they say it does make a difference with
>> human children.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> And husbands.
>
> Becca


having no knowledge on that score, i am unable to comment.

your pal,
blake


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ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Victor Sack wrote:
> > Free-range guinea fowl has a taste of its own,
> > somewhat resembling feasant.

>
> Feasant? What's that a 'fonetic' fowl?


Ah, woe unto me! I do not even know how this particular misspelling
came about. And I wasn't even drunk!

> We have plenty of wild guinea fowl around here, although I've never been
> able to catch one, dammit. I've heard they're pretty good eating,
> though.


They are, but they are not really worth all that much effort.

Victor
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