"" wrote:
>
> I've been drinking Folgers Columbian coffee.
>
> Now, I'd like to try something a bit better.

I suggest roasting your own. There's no comparison
with canned coffee. Home roasted is so much better.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/

I have a Fresh Roast Plus 8, and I'm pleased with it.
It can also be used to roast sunflower and pumpkin seeds.

On Aug 27, 6:00�pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> "" wrote:
>
> > I've been drinking Folgers Columbian coffee.
>
> > Now, I'd like to try something a bit better.
>
> I suggest roasting your own. �There's no comparison
> with canned coffee. �Home roasted is so much better.

Not necessarily. There are too many variables. Not all beans are
created equal. Not all roasting is successful. And not everyone has
the time and inclination to roast beans. And taste is 100 pct
subjective. But most importantly coffee is like 99.44/100 pct about
the water... unless one uses decent water (few have access) all the
money spent on beans, roasting, grinding, and brewing equipment is 100
pct for naught. There is no point whatsoever in spending money on
fancy schmancy beans and equipment if one uses ordinary tap water or
any brand of bottled water... all bottled water is stale and most are
highly contaminated with minerals.


Roasting ones own beans is a crap shoot, not worth the effort unless
doing so satisfies some deep internal primal urge to play with fire.
Effort and resources are much better spent in obtaining decent water.
Freshly drawn RO filtered water is probably the best possible on this
planet.

On 2008-08-27, Mark Thorson > wrote:

> with canned coffee. Home roasted is so much better.
>
> http://www.sweetmarias.com/

Finally. Someone else to spread the coffee gospel. Tell 'em, Mark. I'm
talked out.

nb

notbob wrote on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:26 GMT:

>> with canned coffee. Home roasted is so much better.
>>
>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/

> Finally. Someone else to spread the coffee gospel. Tell 'em,
> Mark. I'm talked out.

There is a limit to how much work I am willing to do for very little
effect. I do grind my own coffee beans, bought vacuum sealed and kept in
the freezer but roasting my own is *out*. Frozen beans don't need
defrosting before grinding.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2008-08-27, Sheldon > wrote:

> Roasting ones own beans is a crap shoot.....

Gotta disagree with you on this one, Shel. My worst roast has always been
better than the best mega-dreck on the grocer's shelf. The only exception
was when I roasted 2 yr old beans. Ick. Green does not keep forever, as
some would have you belive.

nb

James Silverton wrote:
>
> notbob wrote on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:26 GMT:
>
> >> with canned coffee. Home roasted is so much better.
> >>
> >> http://www.sweetmarias.com/
>
> > Finally. Someone else to spread the coffee gospel. Tell 'em,
> > Mark. I'm talked out.
>
> There is a limit to how much work I am willing to do for very little
> effect. I do grind my own coffee beans, bought vacuum sealed and kept in
> the freezer but roasting my own is *out*. Frozen beans don't need
> defrosting before grinding.

But it's not little effect. There's no comparison
with supermarket coffee, even whole-bean pre-roasted.

And it's not much work. Brewing the coffee is more work
than roasting. Making a batch of popcorn is more work
than roasting a batch of coffee.

Plus, you get to control the roast to exactly what
you like. Part of the fun is exploring what roast
you like best. I like it dark, but not as dark as
when I was buying supermarket coffee.

Also, exploring the different beans is fun too.
I find I like the beans from southern Colombia
the best, the Popayan and Huila departments.
Sumatran Mandheling is also good.

When I first started roasting, I almost had to
laugh at the idea that coffee could have flavor
notes like blueberries. But I have made coffee
three times in which I could detect flavors like
blueberries. That's really good coffee, and I
doubt any supermarket coffee has ever had that
flavor. The bean, roast, and brewing technique
must all be just right to bring that out.

On Aug 28, 11:28�am, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> �notbob �wrote �on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:26 GMT:
>
> >> with canned coffee. �Home roasted is so much better.
>
> >>http://www.sweetmarias.com/
> > Finally. �Someone else to spread the coffee gospel. �Tell 'em,
> > Mark. �I'm talked out. �
>
> There is a limit to how much work I am willing to do for very little
> effect. I do grind my own coffee beans, bought vacuum sealed and kept in
> the freezer but roasting my own is *out*.

Most folks are looking for a cup of coffee that's *consistant*. Few
folks have a clue about buying raw beans, even those who claim they
know are in fact relying on some coffee dealer like Marias.com, or
their neighborhood coffee purveyor who also puts on a pretense of
expertise by tossing about weird foreign sounding terminology and the
number of burlap sacks and spilled beans on the floor... all a lotta
hyperbole.

When I buy Eight O'Clock beans I get consistancy year after year after
year and I don't need to do anything but properly *grind* with a burr
grinder (those stoopid whirly thingies are incapable of grinding...
what's the point of talking roasting when one doesn't own a quality
burr grinder) and supply high quality water... once again, coffee is
no different from other beverages, it's ALL about the water regardless
which coffee because taste is 100 pct subjective... there is no reason
to concern oneself about coffee quality when one brews with murky
mystery water straight from the tap, or worse, fercocktah fetid
bottled *stale* water from someone elses tap. It makes as much sense
to buy premium beans and brew with mystery water as it is to use top
shelf scotch for a sour.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 28, 11:28?am, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> ?notbob ?wrote ?on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:26 GMT:
>
> >> with canned coffee. ?Home roasted is so much better.
>
> >>http://www.sweetmarias.com/
> > Finally. ?Someone else to spread the coffee gospel. ?Tell 'em,
> > Mark. ?I'm talked out. ?
>
> There is a limit to how much work I am willing to do for very little
> effect. I do grind my own coffee beans, bought vacuum sealed and kept in
> the freezer but roasting my own is *out*.

Most folks are looking for a cup of coffee that's *consistant*. Few
folks have a clue about buying raw beans, even those who claim they
know are in fact relying on some coffee dealer like Marias.com, or
their neighborhood coffee purveyor who also puts on a pretense of
expertise by tossing about weird foreign sounding terminology and the
number of burlap sacks and spilled beans on the floor... all a lotta
hyperbole.

When I buy Eight O'Clock beans I get consistancy year after year after
year and I don't need to do anything but properly *grind* with a burr
grinder (those stoopid whirly thingies are incapable of grinding...
what's the point of talking roasting when one doesn't own a quality
burr grinder) and supply high quality water... once again, coffee is
no different from other beverages, it's ALL about the water regardless
which coffee because taste is 100 pct subjective... there is no reason
to concern oneself about coffee quality when one brews with murky
mystery water straight from the tap, or worse, fercocktah fetid
bottled *stale* water from someone elses tap. It makes as much sense
to buy premium beans and brew with mystery water as it is to use top
shelf scotch for a sour.

Like the idiot who only ordered Stoli and OJ and swore he could taste the
difference in his vodka?

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:28:22 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Sounds horribly boring.

Maybe to you...but when it comes to coffee, I don't NEED surprises
with the next batch.

On 2008-08-28, Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:

> Maybe to you...but when it comes to coffee, I don't NEED surprises
> with the next batch.

Ain't it great that we are all different?

nb