I know there are fans of this product so I thought I would pass on that
I saw the 8 qt. French oven on sale for $199 at my local CostCo. In your
choice of red or blue!

I went to see if CostCo is selling them online, but they aren't, so you
will have to check your own CostCo in-house stock.

--Lin

"Lin" > wrote in message
est...
>I know there are fans of this product so I thought I would pass on that I
>saw the 8 qt. French oven on sale for $199 at my local CostCo. In your
>choice of red or blue!
>
> I went to see if CostCo is selling them online, but they aren't, so you
> will have to check your own CostCo in-house stock.
>
> --Lin

That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets have their 8
quart for $49. We bought it in red.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
news
>
> "Lin" > wrote in message
> est...
>>I know there are fans of this product so I thought I would
>>pass on that I saw the 8 qt. French oven on sale for $199 at
>>my local CostCo. In your choice of red or blue!
>>
>> I went to see if CostCo is selling them online, but they
>> aren't, so you will have to check your own CostCo in-house
>> stock.
>>
>> --Lin
>
> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets
> have their 8 quart for $49. We bought it in red.

Ah more my price range. $49 I can deal with.

I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for $199 or
more. I would think a restaurant maybe.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets have their 8
> quart for $49. We bought it in red.

EXCELLENT price! Amazon shows it for $179. Closest outlet store for us
is Gilroy, and I don't know how soon I will get that way again.

--Lin (I love red)

On Tue 02 Sep 2008 08:13:52p, Lin told us...

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets have
>> their 8 quart for $49. We bought it in red.
>
> EXCELLENT price! Amazon shows it for $179. Closest outlet store for us
> is Gilroy, and I don't know how soon I will get that way again.
>
> --Lin (I love red)
>

All my pieces are the old original blue. Wish I had more colors. :-)

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sandi wrote:

> I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for $199 or
> more. I would think a restaurant maybe.
>
Because some times good pots, knives, and other accoutrement costs. <shrug>
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my Le Creuset Dutch Oven. I did buy it at the outlet
for a bit under $199, if I recall? But I wouldn't question anyones
purchase of a first quality one at that price or more. They are pieces
one buys for a lifetime of use, IMO. Investment pieces.

On 2008-09-03, Goomba > wrote:

> Because some times good pots, knives, and other accoutrement costs. <shrug>
> I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my Le Creuset Dutch Oven.

So do I, but I'd never pay even $199. I got mine for $85 at a
going-out-of-biz sale. If they'd made a knock off for $49, I'd have
purchased it instead. Yes, some things do cost more and are worth it.
OTOH, some things are just plain ol' rip-offs.

nb

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:13:52 -0700, Lin >
wrote:

>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets have their 8
>> quart for $49. We bought it in red.
>
>EXCELLENT price! Amazon shows it for $179. Closest outlet store for us
>is Gilroy, and I don't know how soon I will get that way again.
>
I just checked the Gilroy website and didn't see an enamel oven for
$49. So if anyone is interested, better call first to see what's in
stock and how much it costs.



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On 03 Sep 2008 03:13:42 GMT, sandi > wrote:

>I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for $199 or
>more.

People who put them on the table?


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Goomba > wrote in
:

> sandi wrote:
>
>> I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for
>> $199 or more. I would think a restaurant maybe.
>>
> Because some times good pots, knives, and other accoutrement
> costs. <shrug> I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my Le Creuset Dutch Oven. I
> did buy it at the outlet for a bit under $199, if I recall?
> But I wouldn't question anyones purchase of a first quality
> one at that price or more. They are pieces one buys for a
> lifetime of use, IMO. Investment pieces.

Okay. It's better quality than...
Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.

Thanks for your reply.

sandi wrote:

> Okay. It's better quality than...
> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.
>
> Thanks for your reply.

I don't own Calphalon, but didn't think it was enameled cast iron like
the Le Creuset is?

On Wed 03 Sep 2008 05:16:52a, Goomba told us...

> sandi wrote:
>
>> Okay. It's better quality than...
>> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I don't own Calphalon, but didn't think it was enameled cast iron like
> the Le Creuset is?

Calphalon has a line of enameled cast iron now, in addition to the usual
anodized aluminum.

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On 2008-09-03, sandi > wrote:

> Okay. It's better quality than...
> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.

What about Lodge enameled cast iron? $50 for a 6 qt d/o.

nb

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Wed 03 Sep 2008 05:16:52a, Goomba told us...

>> sandi wrote:

>>> Okay. It's better quality than...
>>> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.

>> I don't own Calphalon, but didn't think it was enameled cast iron like
>> the Le Creuset is?

>Calphalon has a line of enameled cast iron now, in addition to the usual
>anodized aluminum.

So, how does it compare to Le Creuset? The list price of
a Calphalon ECI piece seems about the same as a sale price
of a similar Le Creuset. It seems they're taking straight
aim at Le Creuset with this line.

Is there a lifetime warranty?

Steve

On 2008-09-03, Steve Pope > wrote:

> of a similar Le Creuset. It seems they're taking straight
> aim at Le Creuset with this line.

And well they should, most French cookware being notoriously overpriced.
Some of it worth it, some of it not.

nb

On 03 Sep 2008 03:13:42 GMT, sandi wrote:

> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
> news >
>>
>> "Lin" > wrote in message
>> est...
>>>I know there are fans of this product so I thought I would
>>>pass on that I saw the 8 qt. French oven on sale for $199 at
>>>my local CostCo. In your choice of red or blue!
>>>
>>> I went to see if CostCo is selling them online, but they
>>> aren't, so you will have to check your own CostCo in-house
>>> stock.
>>>
>>> --Lin
>>
>> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets
>> have their 8 quart for $49. We bought it in red.
>
> Ah more my price range. $49 I can deal with.
>
> I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for $199 or
> more. I would think a restaurant maybe.

i've been thinking of getting a refined, high-quality pot to **** in. the
one i have now is strictly déclassé.

your pal,
blake

> On 03 Sep 2008 03:13:42 GMT, sandi > wrote:
>
> I seriously wonder why one would purchace a Dutch oven for $199 or
> more.
>


Because people with too much money indulge themselves with
expensive items that are also beautiful and functional.

I have two LeCreuset Dutch ovens, bought at semi-annual sales
plus discount coupon at the outlet. We had received a Desco
enameled Dutch oven as a wedding gift in the 60's and I loved it
until the enamel wore off and it began to rust inside. I made
do with my Farberware kettles for many years, then discovered LC
and the sales.

FWIW I have discovered that LC now sends the ~25% off coupons
and sales announcements only to people who have purchased at the
outlets during the year. The sales are usually in May/Mother's Day,
and December/Christmas.

gloria p

On Wed 03 Sep 2008 08:46:18a, Steve Pope told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>>On Wed 03 Sep 2008 05:16:52a, Goomba told us...
>
>>> sandi wrote:
>
>>>> Okay. It's better quality than...
>>>> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.
>
>>> I don't own Calphalon, but didn't think it was enameled cast iron like
>>> the Le Creuset is?
>
>>Calphalon has a line of enameled cast iron now, in addition to the usual
>>anodized aluminum.
>
> So, how does it compare to Le Creuset? The list price of
> a Calphalon ECI piece seems about the same as a sale price
> of a similar Le Creuset. It seems they're taking straight
> aim at Le Creuset with this line.
>
> Is there a lifetime warranty?
>
> Steve
>

Sorry, Steve. I don't know any details on the Calphalon product, nor have
I handled it. I've only seen it on the web.

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notbob wrote:
> On 2008-09-03, Steve Pope > wrote:
>
>> of a similar Le Creuset. It seems they're taking straight
>> aim at Le Creuset with this line.
>
> And well they should, most French cookware being notoriously
> overpriced. Some of it worth it, some of it not.
>
> nb

The trick is which country has done the enamel. Anything from China either
has existing pits when purchased or bubbles and chips shortly thereafter.
Janet

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:46:24 -0700, Lin >
wrote:

>I know there are fans of this product so I thought I would pass on that
>I saw the 8 qt. French oven on sale for $199 at my local CostCo. In your
>choice of red or blue!
>
>I went to see if CostCo is selling them online, but they aren't, so you
>will have to check your own CostCo in-house stock.
>
>--Lin

Is that an oval one? I have several round dutch ovens of theirs....

By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
favorite pieces now.

Christine

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:13:52 -0700, Lin >
wrote:

>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> That is a good price for Le Creuset, but the Calphalon outlets have their 8
>> quart for $49. We bought it in red.
>
>EXCELLENT price! Amazon shows it for $179. Closest outlet store for us
>is Gilroy, and I don't know how soon I will get that way again.
>
>--Lin (I love red)

No, there are outlets in Vacaville. Maybe not the Calphalon outlet,
but there is a Le Creuset outlet there. Ask me how I know..LOL.

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:

>
> Is that an oval one? I have several round dutch ovens of theirs....

Yes. Bob has been wanting a large, oval one like that. Just other
"indulgences" that take center stage these days. You know, like water,
electric, gas, and ME! ;-)

> By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
> amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
> $200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
> favorite pieces now.

Thanks for the heads-up on that! Vacaville is an easy drive (we were
through there on Monday as a matter of fact).

--Lin

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:12:37 -0700, Lin >
wrote:
>Thanks for the heads-up on that! Vacaville is an easy drive (we were
>through there on Monday as a matter of fact).
>
>--Lin

Ask them when their sales are. I know they have regular sales in
both July and December, but they have other special sales at other
times. That is how I found that pot I mentioned.

Another favorite is the soup pot I got at one outlet.

Christine, wishing very much that she had an outlet near her.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> sandi wrote:
>
>> Okay. It's better quality than...
>> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I don't own Calphalon, but didn't think it was enameled cast iron like the
> Le Creuset is?

Yes, it is. The only difference is the choice of colors and the logo. The
$49 Calphalon on sale was only in burgundy while the high priced brand had
at least six colors to choose from. You may also want to compare the Martha
Stewart line at Macy's and Batali line at BB & Beyond. They look identical
also, just different colors again. I'd guess they all come from the same
factory in China.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>
> The trick is which country has done the enamel. Anything from China
> either has existing pits when purchased or bubbles and chips shortly
> thereafter.
> Janet
>

A couple of weeks ago Dee Dee posted photos of her LeCreuset with all the
imperfections a round the rim. The Calphalon we bought is perfect. I'll
get back to you in five years to see ho wit holds up.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2008-09-03, sandi > wrote:
>
>> Okay. It's better quality than...
>> Calphalon or other brands? I was seriously curious.
>
> What about Lodge enameled cast iron? $50 for a 6 qt d/o.
>
> nb

Had we not run across the Calphalon, that was our choice.

On Wed 03 Sep 2008 08:23:51p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...

>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>
>> The trick is which country has done the enamel. Anything from China
>> either has existing pits when purchased or bubbles and chips shortly
>> thereafter.
>> Janet
>>
>
> A couple of weeks ago Dee Dee posted photos of her LeCreuset with all the
> imperfections a round the rim. The Calphalon we bought is perfect. I'll
> get back to you in five years to see ho wit holds up.

I bought all of my Le Creuset back in the 1970s and every piece is perfect.
Obviously things have changed since then. I don't think I'd buy it now.

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Wed 03 Sep 2008 08:23:51p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...

>> A couple of weeks ago Dee Dee posted photos of her LeCreuset with all the
>> imperfections a round the rim. The Calphalon we bought is perfect. I'll
>> get back to you in five years to see ho wit holds up.

>I bought all of my Le Creuset back in the 1970s and every piece is perfect.
>Obviously things have changed since then. I don't think I'd buy it now.

As a datapoint, there were absolutely no imperfections in a piece that
Le Creuset sent us in the past year as a replacement.

Dunno what that means. Hardly any manufacturer is immune these
days to quality problems stemming from modern price pressures.

Steve

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> The trick is which country has done the enamel. Anything from China
> either has existing pits when purchased or bubbles and chips shortly
> thereafter.
> Janet

In my experience just about anything made in China is inferior
in quality. Price is their only advantage and of course, in the
long run, you get what you pay for.

gloria p

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:59:36 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
>amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
>$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
>favorite pieces now.

I thought so, but the Le Cruseset website didn't turn it up.


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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:20:39 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:59:36 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>
>>By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
>>amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
>>$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
>>favorite pieces now.
>
>I thought so, but the Le Cruseset website didn't turn it up.

Look on www.outletsonline.com

Christine

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:22:14 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:20:39 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:59:36 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>>
>>>By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
>>>amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
>>>$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
>>>favorite pieces now.
>>
>>I thought so, but the Le Cruseset website didn't turn it up.
>
>Look on www.outletsonline.com
>
Disregard my previous post. I'm getting my gourmet cookware brand
names mixed up. It was Calphalon that's $49. I thought there they
sold enameled cookware up in Vacaville and it turned out Calphalon
wasn't there.... I forgot about Le Creuset. They're both C's.


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> wrote:

> wrote:

>>By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
>>amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
>>$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
>>favorite pieces now.

>I thought so, but the Le Crueset website didn't turn it up.

I have bought pots from that Vacaville outlet store as well.
But, not for years.

Steve

On Wed 03 Sep 2008 09:34:53p, told us...

> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:22:14 -0600, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:20:39 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:59:36 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>By the way, there is a Le Crueset outlet in Vacaville. I got an
>>>>amazing deal there a few years ago..got a largish pot for more than
>>>>$200 off..... They were having a special sale. It is one of my
>>>>favorite pieces now.
>>>
>>>I thought so, but the Le Cruseset website didn't turn it up.
>>
>>Look on www.outletsonline.com
>>
> Disregard my previous post. I'm getting my gourmet cookware brand
> names mixed up. It was Calphalon that's $49. I thought there they
> sold enameled cookware up in Vacaville and it turned out Calphalon
> wasn't there.... I forgot about Le Creuset. They're both C's.

A "C" by any other name...?



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Gloria P wrote:

> In my experience just about anything made in China is inferior
> in quality. Price is their only advantage and of course, in the
> long run, you get what you pay for.
>
> gloria p

I'm making more attempt to buy ANYTHING BUT Chinese made items.
They're harder to find, for sure. Which just proves to me that this is a
huge problem.
Buying American is my first choice, and then globally. But China is
always my last choice, if I have one?

The Cook wrote:

>> Buying American is my first choice, and then globally. But China is
>> always my last choice, if I have one?
>
> Have you read the book "A Year Without China?" I can't remember the
> author's name and it looks like I passed it on to my son. The couple
> decided to go one year without buying anything from China. They
> prayed that their computer did not need parts and that their coffee
> maker and TV did not die. The biggest problem was children's toys.
> All of the "neat" toys that all the kids had were made in China. Very
> interesting read.
>

No, I've not but I'll look for it. The entire issue is of great concern
to me, and should be looked into by more of us.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:26:37 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Gloria P wrote:
>
>> In my experience just about anything made in China is inferior
>> in quality. Price is their only advantage and of course, in the
>> long run, you get what you pay for.
>>
>> gloria p
>
>I'm making more attempt to buy ANYTHING BUT Chinese made items.
>They're harder to find, for sure. Which just proves to me that this is a
>huge problem.
>Buying American is my first choice, and then globally. But China is
>always my last choice, if I have one?

Have you read the book "A Year Without China?" I can't remember the
author's name and it looks like I passed it on to my son. The couple
decided to go one year without buying anything from China. They
prayed that their computer did not need parts and that their coffee
maker and TV did not die. The biggest problem was children's toys.
All of the "neat" toys that all the kids had were made in China. Very
interesting read.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:13:17 -0500, The Cook >
wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:26:37 -0400, Goomba >
>wrote:
>
>>Gloria P wrote:
>>
>>> In my experience just about anything made in China is inferior
>>> in quality. Price is their only advantage and of course, in the
>>> long run, you get what you pay for.
>>>
>>> gloria p
>>
>>I'm making more attempt to buy ANYTHING BUT Chinese made items.
>>They're harder to find, for sure. Which just proves to me that this is a
>>huge problem.
>>Buying American is my first choice, and then globally. But China is
>>always my last choice, if I have one?
>
>Have you read the book "A Year Without China?" I can't remember the
>author's name and it looks like I passed it on to my son. The couple
>decided to go one year without buying anything from China. They
>prayed that their computer did not need parts and that their coffee
>maker and TV did not die. The biggest problem was children's toys.
>All of the "neat" toys that all the kids had were made in China. Very
>interesting read.

The name of the book is "A Year without Made in China."

"Goomba" > wrote

> Gloria P wrote:
>
>> In my experience just about anything made in China is inferior
>> in quality. Price is their only advantage and of course, in the
>> long run, you get what you pay for.

> I'm making more attempt to buy ANYTHING BUT Chinese made items.
> They're harder to find, for sure. Which just proves to me that this is a
> huge problem.
> Buying American is my first choice, and then globally. But China is
> always my last choice, if I have one?

People (including me, I'm not pointing fingers) are always looking
for the lowest price for everything, how many times has it come
up how little food costs at the Asian market. If people want to
stop buying goods made in China, they're going to have to put
their money where their mouth is.

nancy

On 2008-09-04, The Cook > wrote:

>>decided to go one year without buying anything from China. They
>>prayed that their computer did not need parts and that their coffee
>>maker and TV did not die.

One must make a distinction between mainland China and Taiwan, as the
product from the latter range from decent to very high quality. Many
superior computer and electronic components are from companies based in
Taiwan.

nb