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Univeros 07-09-2008 02:56 AM

Chewy meat
 
Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
yesterday.
What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
more...shall i say less tyre like?
Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


cybercat 07-09-2008 02:59 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Univeros" > wrote in message
...
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?
>


You can brown it then braise it until it falls apart. What cut is it?



Lin 07-09-2008 03:02 AM

Chewy meat
 
Univeros wrote:

> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?


Try NOT putting it in your microwave next time.

--Lin

Sky 07-09-2008 03:13 AM

Chewy meat
 
Univeros wrote:
>
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


Slice it very thinly across the grain (best to do when semi-frozen),
then marinate it for stir-fry flavor/style of choice.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

cybercat 07-09-2008 03:18 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> Univeros wrote:
>>
>> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
>> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
>> yesterday.
>> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
>> more...shall i say less tyre like?
>> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
>> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?

>
> Slice it very thinly across the grain (best to do when semi-frozen),
> then marinate it for stir-fry flavor/style of choice.
>


What kind of marinade do you like, Sky? I have not tried marinating beef
yet.



Sheldon 07-09-2008 03:19 AM

Chewy meat
 
On Sep 6, 9:56�pm, (Univeros)
wrote:
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


What cut... never mind... now that it's cooked to death it's a bit
late... do you have a dog?



cybercat 07-09-2008 03:19 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Lin" > wrote in message
est...
> Univeros wrote:
>
>> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
>> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
>> yesterday.
>> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
>> more...shall i say less tyre like?

>
> Try NOT putting it in your microwave next time.
>


You don't really think he did, do you? :D



Sky 07-09-2008 03:23 AM

Chewy meat
 
cybercat wrote:
>
> "Sky" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Univeros wrote:
> >>
> >> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> >> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> >> yesterday.
> >> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> >> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> >> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> >> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?

> >
> > Slice it very thinly across the grain (best to do when semi-frozen),
> > then marinate it for stir-fry flavor/style of choice.
> >

>
> What kind of marinade do you like, Sky? I have not tried marinating beef
> yet.


-I'm not so sure it's technically a marinade, but it's a soy=sauce-based
one: Soy sauce, chicken broth, honey, ginger, sesame oil, garlic, hot
sauce, sesame seeds - something along that line. Othertimes, I might
use a zesty/hearty italian dressing and service with noodles, instead of
rice for the the former. Then of course, there's always the
fajita-style marinade to serve with condiments of choice and tortilla
wraps.

Sky

P.S. With a beef round- or top-steak, I don't think the 'grain'
actually matters?

--
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Edwin Pawlowski 07-09-2008 03:33 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Univeros" > wrote in message
...
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?
>


Already cooked? Grind it up (or use the food processor to chop it). Set it
aside while you sauté some onions. Then add the chopped cooked meat, add
some broth or gravy to make it moist. Good in crepes, wraps, pita bread.
Add seasonings as you like.

There are many other variations by adding different ingredients. Tomato
sauce, sour cream, cheese, etc.



Lin 07-09-2008 03:53 AM

Chewy meat
 
cybercat wrote:

> You don't really think he did, do you? :D


Based on his previous post about microwaves and his cookware being
rusty, yup.

He's just trolling anyway. Four posts to this group in the last couple
months; no post history anywhere else and no profile.

--Lin

Sqwertz 07-09-2008 04:01 AM

Chewy meat
 
Lin > wrote:

> He's just trolling anyway. Four posts to this group in the last couple
> months; no post history anywhere else and no profile.


No profile - Hrpff! How did he get in here in the first place
without a profile?

-sw

Pennyaline[_7_] 07-09-2008 04:25 AM

Chewy meat
 
Sheldon wrote:
> On Sep 6, 9:56�pm, (Univeros)
> wrote:
>> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
>> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
>> yesterday.
>> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
>> more...shall i say less tyre like?
>> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
>> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?

>
> What cut... never mind... now that it's cooked to death it's a bit
> late... do you have a dog?


Not anymore.

<that can be interpreted two ways ;o >

Edwin Pawlowski 07-09-2008 04:37 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Lin > wrote:
>
>> He's just trolling anyway. Four posts to this group in the last couple
>> months; no post history anywhere else and no profile.

>
> No profile - Hrpff! How did he get in here in the first place
> without a profile?
>
> -sw


Slipped in sideways and no one saw him.



bulka[_2_] 07-09-2008 04:40 AM

Chewy meat
 
On Sep 6, 9:56 pm, (Univeros)
wrote:
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


Yeah, beat it it like the mule it probably is.

Otherwise, a vinegar marinade, a long slow cook like in a crock is
good for tough cuts.

B

Dan S. 07-09-2008 04:49 AM

Chewy meat
 
Lin has brought this to us :
> Univeros wrote:
>
>> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
>> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
>> yesterday.
>> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
>> more...shall i say less tyre like?

>
> Try NOT putting it in your microwave next time.
>
> --Lin


are microwaves good for anything but heating water for coffee?



Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 05:33 AM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
lid (Univeros) wrote:

> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


Braise it.
Turn it into stew meat.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 05:35 AM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

> "Univeros" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> > be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> > yesterday.
> > What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> > more...shall i say less tyre like?
> > Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> > I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?
> >

>
> Already cooked? Grind it up (or use the food processor to chop it). Set it
> aside while you sauté some onions. Then add the chopped cooked meat, add
> some broth or gravy to make it moist. Good in crepes, wraps, pita bread.
> Add seasonings as you like.
>
> There are many other variations by adding different ingredients. Tomato
> sauce, sour cream, cheese, etc.


I have stewed meat that was already cooked and was tough, and it turned
out fine.

Of course, I prefer my steaks bloody rare too. ;-d

Sometimes I even get a craving for tartar...
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Edwin Pawlowski 07-09-2008 05:57 AM

Chewy meat
 

"Dan S." > wrote in message
>
> are microwaves good for anything but heating water for coffee?
>
>


Sure, and you can even do a beef roast in there if done right. Most people
just push the start button on high and let 'er rip rather that learn how to
use it properly. It also makes great corn on the cob.

Water for coffee or tea is still done best on the stove too. Microwaved tea
is just not the same.



Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 06:33 AM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
Dan S. > wrote:

> Lin has brought this to us :
> > Univeros wrote:
> >
> >> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> >> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> >> yesterday.
> >> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> >> more...shall i say less tyre like?

> >
> > Try NOT putting it in your microwave next time.
> >
> > --Lin

>
> are microwaves good for anything but heating water for coffee?


Nuclear chicken in a covered corningware works just fine. I also use it
a lot for steaming veggies.

You just have to know what you are doing.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 06:34 AM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

> It also makes great corn on the cob.


Absolootely!

I nuke it as is in the husk.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Mark Thorson 07-09-2008 07:29 AM

Chewy meat
 
Sheldon wrote:
>
> What cut... never mind... now that it's cooked to death it's a bit
> late... do you have a dog?


You skip right to dogs without asking about cats.
Your cats must live a sumptuous life. They can't
be bothered with tough meat.

Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 11:01 AM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > What cut... never mind... now that it's cooked to death it's a bit
> > late... do you have a dog?

>
> You skip right to dogs without asking about cats.
> Your cats must live a sumptuous life. They can't
> be bothered with tough meat.


Most of my cats don't care, they will eat it anyway. <g> Meat (People
food meat) is a treat. I have two cats with chronic mouth problems
(multiple vet visits to no avail) that I will chop meat in teensy little
bits for... It hurts for both girls to chew. Vet says it's an
auto-immune problem. :-(

I spoil both of them as it's hard to keep weight on them and they are
only middle age.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Ted Campanelli 07-09-2008 01:30 PM

Chewy meat
 
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?
>


Liberally sprinkle Papain over the meat and pierce the Papain into the
meat. Papain is a natural meat tenderizer that has no "aftertaste".

AND/OR (my preferred choice is the slow cook)

Then cook you meat in a 200 degree oven. Use a probe type thermometer
to determine the temperature of the meat. Remove the meat from the oven
when it is 5 - 8 degrees LESS than the temperature you want. Let the
meat rest for about 10 - 15 minutes, then slice. The slow cooking
dissolves the connecting fibers and makes the toughest cuts of meat
quite tender.


Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 02:00 PM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
Ted Campanelli > wrote:

> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
> > Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> > be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> > yesterday.
> > What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> > more...shall i say less tyre like?
> > Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> > I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?
> >

>
> Liberally sprinkle Papain over the meat and pierce the Papain into the
> meat. Papain is a natural meat tenderizer that has no "aftertaste".
>
> AND/OR (my preferred choice is the slow cook)
>
> Then cook you meat in a 200 degree oven. Use a probe type thermometer
> to determine the temperature of the meat. Remove the meat from the oven
> when it is 5 - 8 degrees LESS than the temperature you want. Let the
> meat rest for about 10 - 15 minutes, then slice. The slow cooking
> dissolves the connecting fibers and makes the toughest cuts of meat
> quite tender.


What do you think of cooking with papaya strips? I've never tried it,
but am considering it.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Omelet[_7_] 07-09-2008 03:10 PM

Chewy meat
 
In article >,
"l, not -l" > wrote:

> On 6-Sep-2008, Dan S. > wrote:
>
> > are microwaves good for anything but heating water for coffee?

>
> Absolutely. Fish is one of the things that can be done very well in a
> microwave. The secret is not trying to cook something as if it were in an
> oven and, not everything should be cooked like heating coffee or making
> popcorn (set on high).
>
> Check out the used book section of Amazon or similar for microwave cookbooks
> by Donovan Jon Fandre; he had a couple of cooking shows on PBS (produced by
> KQED) years ago, teaching how to effectively use the microwave to prepare
> excellent dishes. The shows, and related cookbooks were "Microwaves are
> for Cooking" and "The Microwave Master". An earlier book by Fandre was call
> "More time for Lovin'(Since I got a Microwave Oven)" is an especially good
> starting point for the microwave beginner.


I've poached fish in a covered corningware in the microwave. Works great.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Steve Pope 07-09-2008 07:06 PM

Chewy meat
 
l, not -l > wrote:

> Absolutely. Fish is one of the things that can be done
> very well in a microwave. The secret is not trying to cook
> something as if it were in an oven and, not everything should
> be cooked like heating coffee or making popcorn (set on high).


I agree fish cooks fine in a microwave, but thereafter the
microwave and its fan and vents smell like fish, and while
you can clean the interior surfaces you can't really get
the fish smell out of the microwave. It disappears only after
a couple days.

I find it unattractive to be reheating my morning cofeee and get
a fish smell blown into the kitchen. It's not worth it.

Steve

Dan S. 07-09-2008 07:07 PM

Chewy meat
 
l, not -l formulated the question :
> On 6-Sep-2008, Dan S. > wrote:
>
>> are microwaves good for anything but heating water for coffee?

>
> Absolutely. Fish is one of the things that can be done very well in a
> microwave. The secret is not trying to cook something as if it were in an
> oven and, not everything should be cooked like heating coffee or making
> popcorn (set on high).
>
> Check out the used book section of Amazon or similar for microwave cookbooks
> by Donovan Jon Fandre; he had a couple of cooking shows on PBS (produced by
> KQED) years ago, teaching how to effectively use the microwave to prepare
> excellent dishes. The shows, and related cookbooks were "Microwaves are
> for Cooking" and "The Microwave Master". An earlier book by Fandre was call
> "More time for Lovin'(Since I got a Microwave Oven)" is an especially good
> starting point for the microwave beginner.


I'm hardly a microwave beginner, but I have consistantly better results
in just about any other cooking method. Although, I did make a nice
bernaise in the microwave once.



Edwin Pawlowski 07-09-2008 08:49 PM

Chewy meat
 

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
>
> I agree fish cooks fine in a microwave, but thereafter the
> microwave and its fan and vents smell like fish, and while
> you can clean the interior surfaces you can't really get
> the fish smell out of the microwave. It disappears only after
> a couple days.
>
> I find it unattractive to be reheating my morning cofeee and get
> a fish smell blown into the kitchen. It's not worth it.
>
> Steve


You need better fish. Mine has never done that.



Nancy2 08-09-2008 05:08 PM

Chewy meat
 
On Sep 6, 8:56*pm, (Univeros)
wrote:
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out to
> be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a steak
> yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it
> more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or something?


Sounds like Eye of Round - worthless piece of meat in any iteration.
Well, maybe hash would be o.k....

N.

Univeros 10-09-2008 05:35 AM

Chewy meat
 

> Univeros wrote:
> Bought a chunk of what i thought was really good meat. Turned out

to be chewier than a car tyre...my jaw is still sore from eating a
steak yesterday.
> What else can i use this meat for, or can i soften it up, make it

more...shall i say less tyre like?
> Someone told me to "beat the shit out of it"?
> I take it that refers to beating it with a hammer or

something?

I didnt do anything to the meat, except i dont
think i cut it the right way, i just forced it when it was tough to
cut. Thanks for all the info though, will try to cut it into smaller
slices and marinade it, sounds good!
Making a stew doesnt sound to bad either, but im a single guy and dont
really make elaborate meals for myslef, this meat was a good brand, so
thats why i bought a 5 kilo chucnk, dont know what cut it is, i threw
away the packing...
Some of the slices are good, so i think maybe i just cut it wrong or
its the outside of the meat thats bad, where most of the fat was....

Id never microwave meat, unless to reheat cooked meat already by the
way....

Thanks again for all the replies!



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