I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.

Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
about this.

Goomba wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the
> regular celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager)
> what happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one
> wants to pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some
> comment implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him
> that they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my
> stock.
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

They've been doing that around here, too. Publix Supermarket is the worst
of the culprits because they trim everything, put it on a black styrofoam
tray and plastic wrap it. You can't even pick out your own produce, they
have it all prepackaged for you. If we go to a produce stand we can buy
celery intact for almost half the cost. To be honest, we don't even buy
produce at Supermarkets anymore; we can't justify the price for the lack of
quality.

kili

"kilikini" > fnord
:

> Goomba wrote:
>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the
>> regular celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager)
>> what happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one
>> wants to pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some
>> comment implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him
>> that they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my
>> stock.
>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the
>> manager about this.
>
> They've been doing that around here, too. Publix Supermarket is the
> worst of the culprits because they trim everything, put it on a black
> styrofoam tray and plastic wrap it. You can't even pick out your own
> produce, they have it all prepackaged for you. If we go to a produce
> stand we can buy celery intact for almost half the cost. To be
> honest, we don't even buy produce at Supermarkets anymore; we can't
> justify the price for the lack of quality.
>

I have a hard time using up my celery unless I'm making stock. Next time
I buy some, ellie's going to be eating a lot of "bugs on a log"

Around here, celery is sold by the package, not the pound. I don't think
I have ever seen "regular" celery (i.e. not the hearts) sold with the
tops cut off.


--
Saerah

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

On Sep 11, 7:21*am, Goomba > wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. *I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. *What?! *I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

In a sense, people who don't know how to cook stole your celery tops.

Cindy Hamilton

Saerah Gray wrote:
> "kilikini" > fnord
> :
>
>> Goomba wrote:

> Around here, celery is sold by the package, not the pound. I don't think
> I have ever seen "regular" celery (i.e. not the hearts) sold with the
> tops cut off.
>
No kidding! What could that produce guy be thinking?! Geesh. If I didn't
want the leaves, I'd buy just the packages of celery hearts.

On Sep 11, 7:21*am, Goomba > wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. *I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. *What?! *I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

The tops show the age of the celery much faster than when it's
trimmed. Also, they want it to fit into a certain sized space or bag,
so they cut it to fit. It's all the marketing department's fault.
You could ask the manager if they get it in that way, or if they trim
it for display. If the latter, you might be able to con them into
saving you one uncut one.

At the current price, they ought to!

maxine in ri

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or so.
Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? If they're bagged, 10:1 they're
coming from the supplier that way.

I gotta pay more attention to that.

(I've got some leaf celery [dried] that's pretty good. It actually has
flavor.)

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, and here's the link to my appearance
on "A Prairie Home Companion," <http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
programs/2008/08/30/>

On Sep 11, 7:46*am, Saerah Gray > wrote:
> "kilikini" > :
>
>
>
>
>
> > Goomba wrote:
> >> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> >> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the
> >> regular celery stalks too. *I asked the produce man (not the manager)
> >> what happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one
> >> wants to pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some
> >> comment implying they're useless. *What?! *I tried to explain to him
> >> that they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my
> >> stock.
> >> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the
> >> manager about this.
>
> > They've been doing that around here, too. *Publix Supermarket is the
> > worst of the culprits because they trim everything, put it on a black
> > styrofoam tray and plastic wrap it. *You can't even pick out your own
> > produce, they have it all prepackaged for you. *If we go to a produce
> > stand we can buy celery intact for almost half the cost. *To be
> > honest, we don't even buy produce at Supermarkets anymore; we can't
> > justify the price for the lack of quality.
>
> I have a hard time using up my celery unless I'm making stock. Next time
> I buy some, ellie's going to be eating a lot of "bugs on a log"
>
> Around here, celery is sold by the package, not the pound. I don't think
> I have ever seen "regular" celery (i.e. not the hearts) sold with the
> tops cut off.
>
> --
> Saerah
>
> "Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! *Adapt or haul ass!"
> - some hillbilly from FL- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Here, too - a whole bunch of celery, with all its glorious leaves.
They also sell packages of trimmed bunches, which have very few if any
leaves, and are more expensive.

N.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
>> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
>> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
>> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
>> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
>> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>>
>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
>> about this.
>
> Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
> I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or so.
> Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? If they're bagged, 10:1 they're
> coming from the supplier that way.
>
> I gotta pay more attention to that.
>
> (I've got some leaf celery [dried] that's pretty good. It actually has
> flavor.)
>
And also easy to grow either outdoors in warmer climes or indoors in
frosty ones. Can be found in most seedsmen catalogs as either "cutting"
or "leaf" celery. Been growing it for years but I still buy celery
stalks for use where you need that crunch. The local markets here are
like everywhere they buy most of their produce ready packaged for sale,
even the nekkid celery. Unfortunately, if you dehydrate celery stalks
they turn into something you could shoot out of a shotgun.

Goomba wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

Isn't celery usually priced per bunch? In which case...

What fries me even more is the lack of cilantro roots.

--
Jean B.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Goomba > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
>> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
>> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
>> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
>> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
>> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>>
>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
>> about this.
>
> They do the same thing here. I'm not sure what the deal is. Either there is
> no top on the stalk or there are a few nasty, dying leaves on the tops.
> Now, the produce section in a couple of the discounts stores I go into now
> and then have full tops on the celery. I don't like my celery beheaded.
>
> Michael
>
Here's a thought: if they chop off those disgraceful straggly
leaves, then they probably have more, and predictable, shelf space.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:

> What fries me even more is the lack of cilantro roots.
>

What do you do with the cilantro roots? I just bought a bunch of
cilantro with the roots.
I already cut them off though. Cilantro with roots is harder to clean
than spinach sometimes. So much dirt!

-Tracy

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> �Goomba wrote:
> >
> > I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> > the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> > celery stalks too. �I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> > happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> > pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> > implying they're useless. �What?! �I tried to explain to him that
> > they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> > Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> > about this.
>
>
> Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
> I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or so. �
> Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? �If they're bagged, 10:1 they're
> coming from the supplier that way. �


This is true... most celery in the US comes from CA. Years go they
were shipped whole in nice wooden crates (very valuable when I was a
kid), but of late they've been trimmed more and more each year to save
on shipping costs, and they use much less expensive and lighter
cardboard cartons... celery is shipped refrigerated, they can fit a
lot more into those refrigerated RR cars and semi trailers after
trimming, and trimmed and in cartons they weigh far less which also
requires less energy to ship... in fact years ago, way before the
energy crunch, celery was shipped iced. When you find celery with
tops they are more locally grown. And still you hardly ever get all
the tops because anyone who has seen celery growing would know that
more than half the height of the plant is tops.... I've grown celery,
they get about three feet tall... you really don't want the very top
portion anyway because the outter leaves are dark green and extremely
bitter, you want the interior lighter green leaves that were protected
from the sun so that they are naturally blanched, they are more mild
and sweeter. If you got the entire celery with all it's leaves you'd
throw away most of the tops anyway... if you used those bitter leaves
for stock it would be ruined. Most green grocers know how much to
trim celery so that the remaining tops are actually usable, they don't
purposely trim away the tops, and in fact the tops are the last part
to rot, they typically trim only the very bottoms... when they trim
some of the outter ribs fall off, those are used to make up soup
greens. Those very topmost leaves are so bitter even the rabbits and
deer won't eat them, I've tossed them out over the fence of my garden
like I do with all produce I can't use for various reasons, the
critters won't eat the very tops.

Learn he
http://www.dole5aday.com/html/kids/N...harvested.html

On Sep 11, 10:54�am, Tracy > wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
> > What fries me even more is the lack of cilantro roots.
>
> What do you do with the cilantro roots? I just bought a bunch of
> cilantro with the roots.
> I already cut them off though. Cilantro with roots is harder to clean
> than spinach sometimes. So much dirt!

The roots are used in cooking too... cilantro is extremely easy to
grow I don't know why folks who claim to love it don't grow their
own... I don't grow it because to me cilantro tastes like Octagon
soap.

http://www.thaitable.com/Thai/Ingred...antro_root.htm

Tracy wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>
>> What fries me even more is the lack of cilantro roots.
>>
>
> What do you do with the cilantro roots? I just bought a bunch of
> cilantro with the roots.
> I already cut them off though. Cilantro with roots is harder to clean
> than spinach sometimes. So much dirt!
>
> -Tracy

Thai and other SE Asian recipes frequently call for them.

--
Jean B.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:54�am, Tracy > wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> What fries me even more is the lack of cilantro roots.
>> What do you do with the cilantro roots? I just bought a bunch of
>> cilantro with the roots.
>> I already cut them off though. Cilantro with roots is harder to clean
>> than spinach sometimes. So much dirt!
>
> The roots are used in cooking too... cilantro is extremely easy to
> grow I don't know why folks who claim to love it don't grow their
> own... I don't grow it because to me cilantro tastes like Octagon
> soap.
>
> http://www.thaitable.com/Thai/Ingred...antro_root.htm
>
>

Interesting. I have not come across a recipe requiring the roots.
Granted, I don't make a lot of Thai food.

-Tracy

Goomba wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

I think they do it to hide the fact that the celery isn't all that
fresh. The leaves beginning to brown are the first indication of age.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

Good lord! I feel for you and agree. I freeze celery tops for stock. In
fact, about 1 hour ago, I stringed and topped an entire head of celery
to make celery sticks for lunches at work.

I froze all the tops, bottoms and strings!

I'd throw a fit and tell the manager that not everyone is ignorant.

There will always be leaves in the center of the celery head, no matter
how much they cut off unless they want to waste 2/3'ds of the head???
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> (I've got some leaf celery [dried] that's pretty good. It actually has
> flavor.)

I wish I could get celery leaf locally. I have to make my own. I can
only get celery SEED in the bulk herbs.

Yes, I know I can get it on line... <g>
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
:

> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the
>> regular celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager)
>> what happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one
>> wants to pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some
>> comment implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him
>> that they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my
>> stock.
>>
>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the
>> manager about this.
>
> Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
> I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or
> so. Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? If they're bagged, 10:1
> they're coming from the supplier that way.
>
> I gotta pay more attention to that.
>
> (I've got some leaf celery [dried] that's pretty good. It actually
> has flavor.)
>

Lovage or AKA Bishop weed is a herb you can grow to replace it.

--

The beet goes on -Alan

On Sep 11, 6:21*am, Goomba > wrote:
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. *I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. *What?! *I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.
=========================================
I have never in my life had to buy celery by the pound. Here it ranges
from as low as 89 cents to $1.99 a bunch/head/unit whatever.

Lynn in Fargo
Usually the leaves and top bits
are the most important!

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> On Sep 11, 6:21 am, Goomba > wrote:
>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
>> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
>> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
>> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
>> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
>> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>>
>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
>> about this.
> =========================================
> I have never in my life had to buy celery by the pound. Here it ranges
> from as low as 89 cents to $1.99 a bunch/head/unit whatever.
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Usually the leaves and top bits
> are the most important!

I think I inadvertantly misled when I paraphrased his reply. He said
something like no one wants to buy them or uses them.... ? I forget the
exact reply but it was totally incorrect as far as I am concerned.
Just gimme back my damn leaves, please!! LOL

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:05:00 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
:
>
>> In article >,
>> Goomba > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
>>> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the
>>> regular celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager)
>>> what happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one
>>> wants to pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some
>>> comment implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him
>>> that they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my
>>> stock.
>>>
>>> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the
>>> manager about this.
>>
>> Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
>> I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or
>> so. Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? If they're bagged, 10:1
>> they're coming from the supplier that way.
>>
>> I gotta pay more attention to that.
>>
>> (I've got some leaf celery [dried] that's pretty good. It actually
>> has flavor.)
>>
>
>Lovage or AKA Bishop weed is a herb you can grow to replace it.


Lovage and bishops weed are two different things according to a quick
google. (as I thought) We've got bit of bishops weed that came with
some of the things we transplanted from the last place. It's
impossible to get rid of and I'd strongly recommend NOT planting any.
I try to pull it as I see it but I'll never get it all.

Lou

Omelet wrote:

> I froze all the tops, bottoms and strings!


So you keep all yer bikinis in the *freezer*, eh...???

;-p

--
Best
Greg

Goomba wrote:
>
> I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock.
>
> Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> about this.

In the places we usually buy the vegs, it varies with who is doing the
trimming. On occasion we can get the head of celery before it's trimmed
if we get there at the right time. Leafy celery is great, as is the
darker green celery.

On Sep 11, 1:05*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > Goomba wrote:
>
> > > I'm so annoyed. The Kroger near me keeps foisting off celery with all
> > > the leaves cut off. Not just the trimmed "celery hearts" but the regular
> > > celery stalks too. I asked the produce man (not the manager) what
> > > happened and he replied that they cut them off cause "no one wants to
> > > pay for the leaves" or something along that line and some comment
> > > implying they're useless. What?! I tried to explain to him that
> > > they're very important, very flavorful and almost a must for my stock..
>
> > > Is this a new trend? I need to make it a point to speak to the manager
> > > about this.
>
> > Never thought much about it, but now that you mention it. . . .
> > I don't think I get much in the way of tops until I'm in a layer or so.
> > Are your stalks bagged or nekkid? If they're bagged, 10:1 they're
> > coming from the supplier that way.
>
> This is true... most celery in the US comes from CA. *Years go they
> were shipped whole in nice wooden crates (very valuable when I was a
> kid), but of late they've been trimmed more and more each year to save
> on shipping costs, and they use much less expensive and lighter
> cardboard cartons... celery is shipped refrigerated, they can fit a
> lot more into those refrigerated RR cars and semi trailers after
> trimming, and trimmed and in cartons they weigh far less which also
> requires less energy to ship... in fact years ago, way before the
> energy crunch, celery was shipped iced. *When you find celery with
> tops they are more locally grown. *And still you hardly ever get all
> the tops because anyone who has seen celery growing would know that
> more than half the height of the plant is tops.... I've grown celery,
> they get about three feet tall... you really don't want the very top
> portion anyway because the outter leaves are dark green and extremely
> bitter, you want the interior lighter green leaves that were protected
> from the sun so that they are naturally blanched, they are more mild
> and sweeter. *If you got the entire celery with all it's leaves you'd
> throw away most of the tops anyway... if you used those bitter leaves
> for stock it would be ruined. *Most green grocers know how much to
> trim celery so that the remaining tops are actually usable, they don't
> purposely trim away the tops, and in fact the tops are the last part
> to rot, they typically trim only the very bottoms... when they trim
> some of the outter ribs fall off, those are used to make up soup
> greens. *Those very topmost leaves are so bitter even the rabbits and
> deer won't eat them, I've tossed them out over the fence of my garden
> like I do with all produce I can't use for various reasons, the
> critters won't eat the very tops.
>
> Learn hehttp://www.dole5aday.com/html/kids/N...yclopedia/...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hmmm i buy untrimmed celery from the local farmers market all summer
specifically for the leaves. My two rabbits LOVE the leafy celery and
go completely bonkers when i bring it in the house. It is very long,
and those top bits are skinny and not worth cooking, but the bunnies
go mad for it. I'm left with the boring old stalks for my soups and
sauces

In article > ,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > I froze all the tops, bottoms and strings!
>
>
> So you keep all yer bikinis in the *freezer*, eh...???
>
> ;-p

Just the g-string ones. ;-)
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