In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> You're right. Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.
>
> nancy

<lol> Good insight Nancy!
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> You're right. Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.
>>
>> nancy
>
> <lol> Good insight Nancy!

Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
already had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are
gainfully employed and have other activities on the side don't have time
for getting wasted.

Dave Smith > fnord news:48cd9b28$0$7408
:

> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>
>>> You're right. Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> <lol> Good insight Nancy!
>
> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
> most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
> already had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are
> gainfully employed and have other activities on the side don't have
time
> for getting wasted.
>
>

What, you forgot the fourth crack commandment?

--
Saerah (never get high on your own supply...)

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

Dave Smith wrote:
> Omelet wrote:

>> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>
>>> You're right. Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.

>> <lol> Good insight Nancy!
>
> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
> most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
> already had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are
> gainfully employed and have other activities on the side don't have
> time for getting wasted.

I was being sarcastic, in case it wasn't clear.

nancy

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...

> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that most
> people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they already
> had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
> employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for getting
> wasted.
>

Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word "welfare"
comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
legitimate job and have kids to think of.

Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
.... there but for the grace of God go I ..."

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
news
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
>> most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
>> already had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are
>> gainfully employed and have other activities on the side don't have time
>> for getting wasted.
>>
>
> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
> disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
> ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
> resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
> pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
> I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
> ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word
> "welfare" comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in
> unfortunate circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health
> care through a legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>
> Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
> where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by
> choice. And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help
> them. " ... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
>

There you go. The response of a human being. Way to go!

cybercat wrote:
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> news
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find
>>> that most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them
>>> because they already had too much spare time on their hands. Most
>>> people who are gainfully employed and have other activities on the
>>> side don't have time for getting wasted.
>>>
>>
>> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of
>> what is disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are
>> the fortunate ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal
>> or sell drugs or resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did
>> at one time but have pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're
>> angry at those still taking. I prefer to think of it as a loan. No,
>> they might not pay it back. The ones who abuse the system are the
>> ones you think of when the word "welfare" comes up. Not everyone is
>> abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate circumstances beyond
>> their control. Some can't get health care through a legitimate job
>> and have kids to think of. Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some
>> of the posts in this
>> thread where most of you posting think people who are poor are that
>> way by choice. And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE
>> supposed to help them. " ... there but for the grace of God go I
>> ..."
>
> There you go. The response of a human being. Way to go!

I'm reading all this and I'm feeling a little sad and ashamed at what some
folks are saying because I'm on disability. I don't get much a month, but
if I don't receive my monthly disability allowance, I don't get Medicaid -
that's the rule. I can tell Social Security that I don't want their money,
but if I don't take it I can't receive Medicaid. It's kind of silly.

Medicaid is *state*-funded free health care, not *federally*- funded free
health care. It takes a lot of phone calls, paperwork, leg work and time to
finally qualify for it. You've got to get all your doctor records together,
take a psychiatric evaluation, get all your financial statements in order,
taxes, gosh. It was a full-time job to become eligible. I guess they make
it that difficult to weed out the lazy folks and the ones who are out to
abuse the system.

Well, do to the diagnosis of cancer and the radical surgeries I went through
to remove the aggressive tumor, and a more recent emergency surgery a few
weeks ago, I can say thank you to Medicaid because I am still here,
breathing. If I had not qualified for Medicaid, I would definitely have
died by now. I came really close.

So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the system. I'm
grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want to stay around for a
few more years at least, to continue to irk my husband. :~)

kili

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the system. I'm
> grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want to stay around for a
> few more years at least, to continue to irk my husband. :~)
>
> kili

You are not abusing the system babe. :-)
Even with health insurance thru my employer, I still can't really afford
health care due to the high deductibles and co-pays!

Health care is another really tough subject for everyone sheerly due to
it's high cost.

I'm glad you were able to qualify. <hugs>

Health care due to my current issues are driving my budget into the
ground...
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:17:29 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the system. I'm
>> grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want to stay around for a
>> few more years at least, to continue to irk my husband. :~)
>>
>> kili
>
> You are not abusing the system babe. :-)

well, guess what? in the mania to kick 'shiftless' people off the rolls,
some people like kili get swept up, too.

yeah, some people cheat, but i'd venture to say the percentage is lower
than those who cheat on their taxes.

your pal,
blake

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find
>>>> that most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them
>>>> because they already had too much spare time on their hands. Most
>>>> people who are gainfully employed and have other activities on the
>>>> side don't have time for getting wasted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of
>>> what is disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are
>>> the fortunate ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal
>>> or sell drugs or resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did
>>> at one time but have pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're
>>> angry at those still taking. I prefer to think of it as a loan. No,
>>> they might not pay it back. The ones who abuse the system are the
>>> ones you think of when the word "welfare" comes up. Not everyone is
>>> abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate circumstances beyond
>>> their control. Some can't get health care through a legitimate job
>>> and have kids to think of. Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some
>>> of the posts in this
>>> thread where most of you posting think people who are poor are that
>>> way by choice. And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE
>>> supposed to help them. " ... there but for the grace of God go I
>>> ..."
>>
>> There you go. The response of a human being. Way to go!
>
> I'm reading all this and I'm feeling a little sad and ashamed at what some
> folks are saying because I'm on disability. I don't get much a month, but
> if I don't receive my monthly disability allowance, I don't get Medicaid -
> that's the rule. I can tell Social Security that I don't want their
> money, but if I don't take it I can't receive Medicaid. It's kind of
> silly.

Kili, do not let these bitches bother you. All this petty, mean-spirited,
unkind and ungenerous crap will come back on each and every one of them.
I've never taken any kind of help because I've never needed it, thank God.
No catastrophic illnesses, accidents, etc. I could be as arrogant and
unfeeling as all these *other* assholes (hahaha!) but for some reason I am
not. I've never had anything handed to me, had to work hard for everything
and am still working hard, and yet I begrudge the poor not one cent of my
tax money. I begrudge the ****ing Pentagon a whole bunch, but not the poor,
the addicted, the mentally ill, the old, and the very young.


[snips]

>I can say thank you to Medicaid because I am still here, breathing.

That is what it is there for.

>If I had not qualified for Medicaid, I would definitely have died by now.
>I came really close.
>
> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the system.
> I'm grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want to stay around
> for a few more years at least, to continue to irk my husband. :~)
>

Oh yessss, let's hear it for that. Look him in the eye and say, "I have not
borne any children." (The unspoken part is, "so why am I picking up somebody
else's underwear?)

cybercat wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>>
>> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the
>> system. I'm grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want
>> to stay around for a few more years at least, to continue to irk my
>> husband. :~)
>
> Oh yessss, let's hear it for that. Look him in the eye and say, "I
> have not borne any children." (The unspoken part is, "so why am I
> picking up somebody else's underwear?)

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In his case it's usually his shoes, his
shirts, his socks and his hats, but, yeah. Same thing! :~)

kili

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:42:58 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the system.
>> I'm grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want to stay around
>> for a few more years at least, to continue to irk my husband. :~)
>>
>
> Oh yessss, let's hear it for that. Look him in the eye and say, "I have not
> borne any children." (The unspoken part is, "so why am I picking up somebody
> else's underwear?)

on the other hand, if you're not married there's no one to bitch about
underwear on the floor.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:44:49 -0400, kilikini wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find
>>>> that most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them
>>>> because they already had too much spare time on their hands. Most
>>>> people who are gainfully employed and have other activities on the
>>>> side don't have time for getting wasted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of
>>> what is disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are
>>> the fortunate ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal
>>> or sell drugs or resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did
>>> at one time but have pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're
>>> angry at those still taking. I prefer to think of it as a loan. No,
>>> they might not pay it back. The ones who abuse the system are the
>>> ones you think of when the word "welfare" comes up. Not everyone is
>>> abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate circumstances beyond
>>> their control. Some can't get health care through a legitimate job
>>> and have kids to think of. Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some
>>> of the posts in this
>>> thread where most of you posting think people who are poor are that
>>> way by choice. And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE
>>> supposed to help them. " ... there but for the grace of God go I
>>> ..."
>>
>> There you go. The response of a human being. Way to go!
>
> I'm reading all this and I'm feeling a little sad and ashamed at what some
> folks are saying because I'm on disability. I don't get much a month, but
> if I don't receive my monthly disability allowance, I don't get Medicaid -
> that's the rule. I can tell Social Security that I don't want their money,
> but if I don't take it I can't receive Medicaid. It's kind of silly.
>
> Medicaid is *state*-funded free health care, not *federally*- funded free
> health care. It takes a lot of phone calls, paperwork, leg work and time to
> finally qualify for it. You've got to get all your doctor records together,
> take a psychiatric evaluation, get all your financial statements in order,
> taxes, gosh. It was a full-time job to become eligible. I guess they make
> it that difficult to weed out the lazy folks and the ones who are out to
> abuse the system.
>

really, being poor is a lot of work. it's not surprising these folks don't
have time to hold down a job.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> > I'm reading all this and I'm feeling a little sad and ashamed at what some
> > folks are saying because I'm on disability. I don't get much a month, but
> > if I don't receive my monthly disability allowance, I don't get Medicaid -
> > that's the rule. I can tell Social Security that I don't want their money,
> > but if I don't take it I can't receive Medicaid. It's kind of silly.
> >
> > Medicaid is *state*-funded free health care, not *federally*- funded free
> > health care. It takes a lot of phone calls, paperwork, leg work and time
> > to
> > finally qualify for it. You've got to get all your doctor records
> > together,
> > take a psychiatric evaluation, get all your financial statements in order,
> > taxes, gosh. It was a full-time job to become eligible. I guess they make
> > it that difficult to weed out the lazy folks and the ones who are out to
> > abuse the system.
> >
>
> really, being poor is a lot of work. it's not surprising these folks don't
> have time to hold down a job.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Disability is also not the same as Welfare... Kili has nothing to be
ashamed of.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "kilikini" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> So, I don't feel that my receiving medical help is abusing the
>> system. I'm grateful, very grateful for the help. Besides, I want
>> to stay around for a few more years at least, to continue to irk my
>> husband. :~)
>
> I've been lurking in the thread. You had an extremely rough time of
> it. At least you were sent in the right direction when you thought
> all doors had finally been closed to you. So many people just give
> up. There *is* decent, free (or very little cost to the patient)
> health care for patients out there. Finding it is the big issue.
> Someone in the "know" is generally the way to find the open door.
> You were shown a door that might be open to you and you walked
> through it, thankfully. How many people out there can't find, or,
> can't find anyone to help them find that door... I think people with
> chronic illness and children should all have access to health care,
> regardless of the financial status of their family. I'm not saying
> that I am a socialized medicine advocate. I don't know enough about
> socialized medicine to be able to discuss it intelligently. I do
> think something needs to be done. It needs to be done during the
> next presidential term.
>
> Michael

I agree with you, Michael. :~)

kili

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> I don't know enough about
> > socialized medicine to be able to discuss it intelligently. I do
> > think something needs to be done. It needs to be done during the
> > next presidential term.
> >
> > Michael
>
> I agree with you, Michael. :~)
>
> kili

Socialized health care is badly needed, and imho, inevitable... It's
just too bloody expensive for any normal family to afford any more.

I just hope they get it right.

I do nightly audits for duplicate charges in the lab and credit them. I
KNOW what it costs! One long hospitalization can totally wipe out
someone's lifes savings.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:30 -0400, "Cheryl"
> wrote:

>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
m...
>
>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that most
>> people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they already
>> had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
>> employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for getting
>> wasted.
>>
>
>Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
>disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
>ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
>resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
>pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
>I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
>ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word "welfare"
>comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
>circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
>legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>
>Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
>where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
>And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
>... there but for the grace of God go I ..."


Thank you, Cheryl.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:30 -0400, "Cheryl"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
>>> most
>>> people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
>>> already
>>> had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
>>> employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for
>>> getting
>>> wasted.
>>>
>>
>>Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
>>disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
>>ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
>>resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
>>pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
>>I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
>>ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word
>>"welfare"
>>comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
>>circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
>>legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>>
>>Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
>>where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by
>>choice.
>>And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them.
>>"
>>... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
>
>
> Thank you, Cheryl.
>
> Boron

oNe more thing while I'm up here on my soapbox. If we are all out for only
our own welfare, we are not evolved from the animals we once were. Only
humans can feel something for others, whether fellow humans or animals or
the earth we live on.

DONE.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:30 -0400, "Cheryl"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
. com...
>>>
>>>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
>>>> most
>>>> people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
>>>> already
>>>> had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
>>>> employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for
>>>> getting
>>>> wasted.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what
>>>is
>>>disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
>>>ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
>>>resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
>>>pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still
>>>taking.
>>>I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
>>>ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word
>>>"welfare"
>>>comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
>>>circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
>>>legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>>>
>>>Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
>>>where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by
>>>choice.
>>>And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them.
>>>"
>>>... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Cheryl.
>>
>> Boron
>
> oNe more thing while I'm up here on my soapbox. If we are all out for only
> our own welfare, we are not evolved from the animals we once were. Only
> humans can feel something for others, whether fellow humans or animals or
> the earth we live on.
>

The measure of any culture depends largely on how it treats its elderly,
poor, and otherwise needy/helpless. I cannot believe these spiteful
mother****ers.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:44:42 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:30 -0400, "Cheryl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
>>where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
>>And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
>>... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
>
>
> Thank you, Cheryl.
>
> Boron

as an atheist it almost pains me to say this, but we could do with a more
christian attitude around here.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that most
> > people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they already
> > had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
> > employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for getting
> > wasted.
> >
>
> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
> disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
> ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
> resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
> pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
> I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
> ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word "welfare"
> comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
> circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
> legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>
> Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
> where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
> And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
> ... there but for the grace of God go I ..."

Cheryl, I have no issues with helping people. The issues I have are with
those that don't try... Those that are on 3rd generation or more of
moochers!

I know that not all welfare recipients are like that, but the few tend
to ruin a good system for the many. :-(

I give away a good 10% of my net income to help both family members and
the family of a good friend that I pay to do housecleaning I could do
myself.

I'm not without compassion.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:33:57 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Cheryl" > wrote:

>> Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
>> where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
>> And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
>> ... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
>
> Cheryl, I have no issues with helping people. The issues I have are with
> those that don't try... Those that are on 3rd generation or more of
> moochers!
>
> I know that not all welfare recipients are like that, but the few tend
> to ruin a good system for the many. :-(
>
> I give away a good 10% of my net income to help both family members and
> the family of a good friend that I pay to do housecleaning I could do
> myself.
>
> I'm not without compassion.

if you're so ****ing compassionate, you shouldn't begrudge the one percent
of your taxes that go to welfare, even if part of that goes to the 'few'
'bad ones.'

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:33:57 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Cheryl" > wrote:
>
> >> Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
> >> where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by
> >> choice.
> >> And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them.
> >> "
> >> ... there but for the grace of God go I ..."
> >
> > Cheryl, I have no issues with helping people. The issues I have are with
> > those that don't try... Those that are on 3rd generation or more of
> > moochers!
> >
> > I know that not all welfare recipients are like that, but the few tend
> > to ruin a good system for the many. :-(
> >
> > I give away a good 10% of my net income to help both family members and
> > the family of a good friend that I pay to do housecleaning I could do
> > myself.
> >
> > I'm not without compassion.
>
> if you're so ****ing compassionate, you shouldn't begrudge the one percent
> of your taxes that go to welfare, even if part of that goes to the 'few'
> 'bad ones.'
>
> your pal,
> blake

The thread has been enlightening.
I'm always up for an education.

Unlike some people around here, I'm willing to change my mind and admit
I may have been in error.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:30 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that most
>> people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they already
>> had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are gainfully
>> employed and have other activities on the side don't have time for getting
>> wasted.
>>
>
> Dave, I'm not trying to isolate your post from the rest of some of what is
> disgusting me, but I couldn't stay silent anymore. We are the fortunate
> ones. We may not be rich, but we don't have to steal or sell drugs or
> resort to crime to survive. Maybe some of us did at one time but have
> pulled out of it now. Maybe that's why we're angry at those still taking.
> I prefer to think of it as a loan. No, they might not pay it back. The
> ones who abuse the system are the ones you think of when the word "welfare"
> comes up. Not everyone is abusing it. Some are stuck in unfortunate
> circumstances beyond their control. Some can't get health care through a
> legitimate job and have kids to think of.
>
> Ugh... I'm done. I just got sad reading some of the posts in this thread
> where most of you posting think people who are poor are that way by choice.
> And that we're not supposed to help them. We ARE supposed to help them. "
> ... there but for the grace of God go I ..."

what kills me is how many people seem to be *jealous* of the poor *******s.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:11:08 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>
>>> You're right. Welfare is the cure for drug dealing.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> <lol> Good insight Nancy!
>
> Another thing that sounds good in theory. You will probably find that
> most people that end up strung out on drugs got into them because they
> already had too much spare time on their hands. Most people who are
> gainfully employed and have other activities on the side don't have time
> for getting wasted.

you seriously need to get out mo

Drug Rehab Need By Employment

* Current employment status also correlated with addiction treatment
need in 2000. An estimated 7.7 percent of unemployed adults aged 18 or
older needed addiction treatment for illicit drugs, while only 1.6 percent
of full-time employed adults needed addiction treatment for an illicit drug
problem.
* Most of the adult population needing addiction treatment for an
illicit drug problem in 2000 was employed. Of the estimated 3.6 million
persons aged 18 or older who needed addiction treatment, 1.9 million were
employed full time and 0.6 million were employed part time. Thus, an
estimated 70 percent of adults needing addiction treatment were employed.
An estimated 359,000 unemployed adults needed addiction treatment.

<http://www.drug-rehab-referral.org/drug_rehab_addiction_treatment.html>

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> blake murphy >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > Drug Rehab Need By Employment
> >
> > * Current employment status also correlated with addiction
> > treatment
> > need in 2000. An estimated 7.7 percent of unemployed adults aged 18 or
> > older needed addiction treatment for illicit drugs, while only 1.6
> > percent of full-time employed adults needed addiction treatment for an
> > illicit drug problem.
> > * Most of the adult population needing addiction treatment for an
> > illicit drug problem in 2000 was employed. Of the estimated 3.6
> > million persons aged 18 or older who needed addiction treatment, 1.9
> > million were employed full time and 0.6 million were employed part
> > time. Thus, an estimated 70 percent of adults needing addiction
> > treatment were employed. An estimated 359,000 unemployed adults needed
> > addiction treatment.
> >
> > <http://www.drug-rehab-referral.org/d...treatment.html
>
> It has been my understanding that the vast majority of people addiction
> issues, be it alcohol, pharmaceuticals or both, are functioning addicts.
> Most are employed as you've pointed out above. I don't know where people
> get the stereotypical idea that an alcoholic/addict is a homeless person
> laying in the gutter clutching a bottle or a needle. That is simply not
> the truth. Sure, many, many homeless and unemployed people have
> addiction issues but the surest way to find one is most likely next door
> (so to speak).
>
> Michael

Seconded.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

On 16 Sep 2008 00:42:42 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> blake murphy >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> Drug Rehab Need By Employment
>>
>> * Current employment status also correlated with addiction
>> treatment
>> need in 2000. An estimated 7.7 percent of unemployed adults aged 18 or
>> older needed addiction treatment for illicit drugs, while only 1.6
>> percent of full-time employed adults needed addiction treatment for an
>> illicit drug problem.
>> * Most of the adult population needing addiction treatment for an
>> illicit drug problem in 2000 was employed. Of the estimated 3.6
>> million persons aged 18 or older who needed addiction treatment, 1.9
>> million were employed full time and 0.6 million were employed part
>> time. Thus, an estimated 70 percent of adults needing addiction
>> treatment were employed. An estimated 359,000 unemployed adults needed
>> addiction treatment.
>>
>> <http://www.drug-rehab-referral.org/d...treatment.html
>
> It has been my understanding that the vast majority of people addiction
> issues, be it alcohol, pharmaceuticals or both, are functioning addicts.
> Most are employed as you've pointed out above. I don't know where people
> get the stereotypical idea that an alcoholic/addict is a homeless person
> laying in the gutter clutching a bottle or a needle. That is simply not
> the truth. Sure, many, many homeless and unemployed people have
> addiction issues but the surest way to find one is most likely next door
> (so to speak).
>
> Michael

let's just put it this way: betty ford and cindy mccain weren't living on
the streets when they were addicts. and if you throw in people habituated
to alcohol, well...

i knew a guy who had a heroin addiction while working at a bank. he would
take a 'maintenance' dose before work (and possibly at lunchtime), and
waited until evening to get high. they're out there.

your pal,
blake