Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.

For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl and
chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the glass
front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and screamed
BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered quarter-fries, I
think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but this wasn't the place
to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps. There
was always a line out the door at lunch time. No parking to speak of. And
a hardware/feed store next door with dusty windows.

They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the show to
East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while everyone was
all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that shopping center! Lasted
maybe 4 years. If that. They did some catering gigs for a bit. But in the
end there was not enough business to support a business that, had they
stayed put, had been around 40 years. Probably would have stuck around
another 40. Alas, they got greedy. And then they got gone.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
> Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl
> and chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the
> glass front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and
> screamed BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered
> quarter-fries, I think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but
> this wasn't the place to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash
> casserole, perhaps. There was always a line out the door at lunch
> time. No parking to speak of. And a hardware/feed store next door with
> dusty windows.
>
> They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the show
> to East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while
> everyone was all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that shopping
> center! Lasted maybe 4 years. If that. They did some catering gigs
> for a bit. But in the end there was not enough business to support a
> business that, had they stayed put, had been around 40 years. Probably
> would have stuck around another 40. Alas, they got greedy. And then
> they got gone.
>
> Jill


Christie's seafood restaurant, on S. Main in Houston (the Westheimer
location is still there, but it's not the same)

King's Deli and sandwich shop, across from the old Ellington AFB. (maybe
they are still there, but I didn't see them last time I drove down
Hwy 3.)

BTW, I heard that Brennan's burned down in the wee hours this morning
when Hurricane Ike went over.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>
>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis.

> BTW, I heard that Brennan's burned down in the wee hours this morning
> when Hurricane Ike went over.
>
> Bob


I heard that too. Was it an offshoot of Owen-Brennans out of New Orleans?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>>
>>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis.
>
>> BTW, I heard that Brennan's burned down in the wee hours this morning
>> when Hurricane Ike went over.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I heard that too. Was it an offshoot of Owen-Brennans out of New Orleans?
>
> Jill


I think so; but I'm not sure whether the Houston location was the
original or New Orleans.

Bob

On Sat 13 Sep 2008 08:39:09p, jmcquown told us...

> Are there any food places you particularly miss?

Yes, several in the Cleveland area that are no more. Miller's Dining Room
and Miller's Country Place. The former opened in the 1920s as a "tea
room" in lakewood, but soon expanded to serving simple but superbly
prepared dinners. Absolutely everything served there was made from scratch
on the premises. The Country Place opened some years later in Westlake.
They were family owned. When the owners were ready to retire they simply
closed both places. The were reopened some time later by another owner and
it was miserable.

The New York Spaghetti House in downtown Cleveland, an institution since
the early part of the 20th century. Some of the waitstaff there had been
with the resaurant since the day it opened. Very original sauces and food
preparations.

The Atrium in Bay Village was like being nestled in a greenhouse. The food
offered was both fusion and traditional. The best veal chops and saddle of
lamb I have ever eaten. They lasted about two decades before their doors
closed, and they were extremely popular and busy 'til the end. I don't
know what they closed.

Numerous others I could probably think of, since I lived in Cleveland for
43 years.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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Date: Saturday, 09(IX)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII)
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On Sat 13 Sep 2008 09:18:40p, zxcvbob told us...

> jmcquown wrote:
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>>>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>>>
>>>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis.
>>
>>> BTW, I heard that Brennan's burned down in the wee hours this morning
>>> when Hurricane Ike went over.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>
>> I heard that too. Was it an offshoot of Owen-Brennans out of New
Orleans?
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I think so; but I'm not sure whether the Houston location was the
> original or New Orleans.
>
> Bob
>

New Orleans was the original.

--
Wayne Boatwright

*******************************************
Date: Saturday, 09(IX)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Veteran's Day
8wks 2dys 2hrs 37mins
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listen to?
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Brick Oven Beanery.

Good Stuff. Turkey, beef, lamb and chicken. Mufalettas. Crusty bread,
fresh veggies, cherry and vanilla cokes.

Unfortunately, the owners were putting most of the proceeds up their
noses and eventually they shut down.

jmcquown wrote:
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>

(cute story snipped)

There was a little Irish Pub in Seal Beach, CA that I used to practically
live in. Hennessey's Tavern. It was a lovely pub with rich, dark wood
everywhere. The tiny floor tiles were white, but speckled throughout the
white tile were cute, little green clover shaped tiles. I would have hated
installing that floor, I tell ya!

Hennessey's boasted about how fresh their meat was and it was ground per
order, so I knew I could always safely get a RARE burger. For toppings, I
packed on swiss cheese, bacon, mushrooms, sauteed onions, tomato & lettuce.
I'd ask for a side of BBQ sauce and happily munch on my juicy sandwhich with
glazed eyes.

One of my other favorite meals there was a chicken salad, but it wasn't a
typical chicken salad. The bottom of the "trough-like" bowl had chopped
romaine lettuce and penne pasta mixed together. On top were pieces of
grilled chicken breast, black olives, cauliflower, broccoli, pine nuts, and
a healthy dose of freshly grated parmesan. I'm sure they made the dressing
there because I've never found anything quite like it. It was an Italian
dressing, tangy, yet sweet, and bursting with flavor from very visible herbs
and spices. I loved to get down to the bottom of the bowl and scoop up that
luscious flavor with a piece of pasta. Oh, that was good!

They say you can never go back and I guess it's true. I visited Hennessey's
when I had to go back to California for business. By then Hennessey's had
turned into a good-sized chain that extended from San Diego up the coast all
the way to Carlsbad. Even a location in Las Vegas!!!

I asked for a menu. No more chicken salad. Okay. Next. I ordered a
hamburger and asked for it rare. Nope, they couldn't do that for me
anymore. Okay. "I guess I'll just have a Guinness."

I watched the beautiful elixer slowly run into my waiting pint glass. The
bartender half-hazzardly tossed out a coaster and placed the beverage down
before me. I took a sip and smiled.

Well, at least some things never change.

kili

jmcquown said...

> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.


Wherever I was in New Orleans at Mardi Gras, 1991, when I first met up with
jambalaya!!! :9

Or, "The Smokehouse" burger stand in Berkeley, CA.

Andy
Prefers jambalaya

On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
> Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl and
> chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the glass
> front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and screamed
> BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered quarter-fries, I
> think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but this wasn't the place
> to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps. There
> was always a line out the door at lunch time. No parking to speak of. And
> a hardware/feed store next door with dusty windows.
>
> They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the show to
> East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while everyone was
> all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that shopping center! Lasted
> maybe 4 years. If that. They did some catering gigs for a bit. But in the
> end there was not enough business to support a business that, had they
> stayed put, had been around 40 years. Probably would have stuck around
> another 40. Alas, they got greedy. And then they got gone.
>
> Jill

Have seen that happen to many places - small and good, branched out
and faded.

In Boca Raton in the early eighties there was a Mexican joint called,
and I'm guessing sort of, Casa Gallardo. Any out of town guests I
took there loved it too.

I'm thankful that the Lafayette House still operates in Foxboro, Mass.

Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put on a
fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?

On Sep 14, 6:57 am, "kilikini" > wrote:

> Well, at least some things never change.
>
> kili

Ah, reminds me of a pub in the middle of Nyack, NY called
O'Donoghue's. Early 20th century joint, high back wooden booths,
ancient bathroom in basement as I recall, you get the picture. But
The BEST daily specials. Had a great linguini there once with a sauce
---well, I wanted to lick the plate. It was an opaque white sauce with
bits of brown secret somethings in it. It got so we'd go out of our
way to go there for lunch any time we needed to cross the Hudson. I
imagine it's still there - caught the local crowd which is what kept
it alive.

val189 wrote:
> On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>
>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
>> Alas, they got greedy. And then they got gone.
>>
>
> Have seen that happen to many places - small and good, branched out
> and faded.
>
> In Boca Raton in the early eighties there was a Mexican joint called,
> and I'm guessing sort of, Casa Gallardo. Any out of town guests I
> took there loved it too.
>
> I'm thankful that the Lafayette House still operates in Foxboro, Mass.
>
> Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put on a
> fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
> what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?


If there are I'm sure some will chime in! Now that I think about it, I miss
The Knickerbocker, too. I remember going there for dinner on some
anniversary (50 years?) of the place. They had everything priced as it was
in the 1920's. Steak & lobster dinner for two with soup or salad, a baked
potato and a bottle of wine for the whopping price of $12. I don't know why
they went out of business. LOL

Seriously, though, a bunch of us would frequently go there from the office
for lunch and they seemed to still be doing well, then poof, they closed.
Maybe the owner died.

Jill

kilikini wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>
>
> Hennessey's boasted about how fresh their meat was and it was ground
> per order, so I knew I could always safely get a RARE burger. For
> toppings, I packed on swiss cheese, bacon, mushrooms, sauteed onions,
> tomato & lettuce. I'd ask for a side of BBQ sauce and happily munch
> on my juicy sandwhich with glazed eyes.
>

Doesn't it chap you that the food police tell you how your burger must be
cooked?! Granted, I don't want mine to *moo* at me but yes, rare or
medium-rare at the most, please.

Jill

"val189" > wrote

> On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved
>> or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.

>> They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the show to
>> East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while everyone
>> was
>> all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that shopping center!
>> Lasted
>> maybe 4 years. If that. They did some catering gigs for a bit. But in
>> the
>> end there was not enough business to support a business that, had they
>> stayed put, had been around 40 years. Probably would have stuck around
>> another 40. Alas, they got greedy. And then they got gone.

> In Boca Raton in the early eighties there was a Mexican joint called,
> and I'm guessing sort of, Casa Gallardo. Any out of town guests I
> took there loved it too.

Ah, you reminded me of another restaurant I miss. Yes, it was
a chain "Mexican" place, but it was a nice place to go and the
food was good.

Another place I miss was a pizza kitchen with the open kitchen.
Their food was very good, another place you couldn't get into
because it was so popular. I was particularly fond of their
chopped salad, but everything they made was excellent.
Unfortunately, someone didn't pay the taxes they were supposed
to and one day the restaurant was just gone.

We drove by another restaurant we always liked, they had a
fire and they never re-opened, which is a shame. It was a
warm homey fireplace type place that served good standard
food. It was just a comfortable place to go (with one exception,
what is that disgusting stinky spray restaurants use to clean
glass topped tables??? ACK). I liked the mussels in sherry
garlic sauce ... not for the mussels, but for the sauce to dip
bread, I miss that.

nancy

val189 > fnord
:

> On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>
>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
>> Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl
>> and chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in
>> the glass front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth
>> and screamed BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those
>> battered quarter-fries, I think. And the vegetables weren't out of a
>> can, but this wasn't the place to go if you expected steamed
>> broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps. There was always a line out
>> the door at lunch time. No parking to speak of. And a hardware/feed
>> store next door with dusty windows.
>>
>> They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the
>> show to East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while
>> everyone was all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that
>> shopping center! Lasted maybe 4 years. If that. They did some
>> catering gigs for a bit. But in the end there was not enough
>> business to support a business that, had they stayed put, had been
>> around 40 years. Probably would have stuck around another 40. Alas,
>> they got greedy. And then they got gone.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Have seen that happen to many places - small and good, branched out
> and faded.
>
> In Boca Raton in the early eighties there was a Mexican joint called,
> and I'm guessing sort of, Casa Gallardo. Any out of town guests I
> took there loved it too.
>
> I'm thankful that the Lafayette House still operates in Foxboro, Mass.
>
> Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put on a
> fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
> what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?

I'm from Michigan, but I've never heard of this place. A google search
shows that it was *way* before my time


--
Saerah

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

Saerah Gray wrote:
> val189 > fnord
> :
>
>> On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>>
>>> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis.
>>> Jill
>>
>> Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put on
>> a fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
>> what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?
>
> I'm from Michigan, but I've never heard of this place. A google search
> shows that it was *way* before my time

Quit bragging

Jill

I live in Farmington Hills, MI and I can't say that I've ever heard of
the Rotunda Inn.

val189 wrote:
> On Sep 14, 6:57 am, "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> Well, at least some things never change.
>>
>> kili
>
> Ah, reminds me of a pub in the middle of Nyack, NY called
> O'Donoghue's. Early 20th century joint, high back wooden booths,
> ancient bathroom in basement as I recall, you get the picture. But
> The BEST daily specials. Had a great linguini there once with a sauce
> ---well, I wanted to lick the plate. It was an opaque white sauce with
> bits of brown secret somethings in it. It got so we'd go out of our
> way to go there for lunch any time we needed to cross the Hudson. I
> imagine it's still there - caught the local crowd which is what kept
> it alive.

The restaurant is still there, but it doesn't look like your linguini still
is still on the menu. The only pasta they've got is: eggplant lasagna,
chicken parmigiana, pasta primavera, and fettuccini alfredo. Bummer!

kili

jmcquown wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>>
>>
>> Hennessey's boasted about how fresh their meat was and it was ground
>> per order, so I knew I could always safely get a RARE burger. For
>> toppings, I packed on swiss cheese, bacon, mushrooms, sauteed onions,
>> tomato & lettuce. I'd ask for a side of BBQ sauce and happily munch
>> on my juicy sandwhich with glazed eyes.
>>
>
> Doesn't it chap you that the food police tell you how your burger
> must be cooked?! Granted, I don't want mine to *moo* at me but yes,
> rare or medium-rare at the most, please.
>
> Jill

I know. Some restaurants still let you order a burger rare, but they always
put the * clause at the bottom of the menu; know what I mean?

kili

kilikini wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because
>>>> you moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly
>>>> disappeared.
>>>
>>> Hennessey's boasted about how fresh their meat was and it was ground
>>> per order, so I knew I could always safely get a RARE burger. For
>>> toppings, I packed on swiss cheese, bacon, mushrooms, sauteed
>>> onions, tomato & lettuce. I'd ask for a side of BBQ sauce and
>>> happily munch on my juicy sandwhich with glazed eyes.
>>>
>>
>> Doesn't it chap you that the food police tell you how your burger
>> must be cooked?! Granted, I don't want mine to *moo* at me but yes,
>> rare or medium-rare at the most, please.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I know. Some restaurants still let you order a burger rare, but they
> always put the * clause at the bottom of the menu; know what I mean?
>
> kili

LOL Schultzie's Supper Club in Wisconsin did the opposite. They had the *
to indicate they weren't responsible for steaks ordered well done!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> kilikini wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because
>>>>> you moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly
>>>>> disappeared.
>>>>
>>>> Hennessey's boasted about how fresh their meat was and it was
>>>> ground per order, so I knew I could always safely get a RARE
>>>> burger. For toppings, I packed on swiss cheese, bacon, mushrooms,
>>>> sauteed onions, tomato & lettuce. I'd ask for a side of BBQ sauce
>>>> and happily munch on my juicy sandwhich with glazed eyes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't it chap you that the food police tell you how your burger
>>> must be cooked?! Granted, I don't want mine to *moo* at me but yes,
>>> rare or medium-rare at the most, please.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I know. Some restaurants still let you order a burger rare, but they
>> always put the * clause at the bottom of the menu; know what I mean?
>>
>> kili
>
> LOL Schultzie's Supper Club in Wisconsin did the opposite. They had
> the * to indicate they weren't responsible for steaks ordered well
> done!
> Jill

I like that rule better! LOL.

kili

"val189" wrote

> Ah, reminds me of a pub in the middle of Nyack, NY called
> O'Donoghue's. Early 20th century joint, high back wooden booths,
> ancient bathroom in basement as I recall, you get the picture. But
> The BEST daily specials. Had a great linguini there once with a sauce

Your post reminds me of Kitty O'Sheas in Darwin, Australia. This is the
street 'left of the mall' (east) when walking up from the piers and before
the big Banyon tree. On the corner across from the tree, about 100 yards
'North'. (Piers at north, you walk south to town).

Lovely bar, great food. Cool people. Still there but I'm unlikely to ever
get back to Darwin again.

On Sep 14, 10:02 am, Saerah Gray > wrote:

> > Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put on a
> > fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
> > what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?
>
> I'm from Michigan, but I've never heard of this place. A google search
> shows that it was *way* before my time


Eisenhower era. Somewhere between Detroit and Pontiac.

Is Zehnder's still operating in Frankenmuth?

val189 > fnord news:c17126aa-9989-48d6-b0d3-
:

> On Sep 14, 10:02 am, Saerah Gray > wrote:
>
>> > Then there was the Rotunda Inn outside of Detroit who used to put
on a
>> > fantastic smorgasbord for a buck and a half - am I dating myself or
>> > what!! Might still be there - any Michiganders here?
>>
>> I'm from Michigan, but I've never heard of this place. A google
search
>> shows that it was *way* before my time
>
>
> Eisenhower era. Somewhere between Detroit and Pontiac.
>
> Is Zehnder's still operating in Frankenmuth?
>

AFAIK, yes. They were last summer, at any rate...

--
Saerah

"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL

On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> or they closed?

Some that I miss because I've moved:

Chicago Foods. Belmont and Eston. Everything Korean that a white guy
could need.

I forget the name of the supermercado on North Ave, Humboldt Park,
Chicago. Mostly PR, I think.

There is another place - Family Fruit Market? Something like that,
Irving Park. Great deli, every vegetable.

Stanley's Fruit Market near Wicker Park I missed even before I moved.
They made "improvements" and it was almost like going to the Jewel.

Whatever that place was on Halsted in Greektown (Athens Market, maybe)
where I could get a jar of tarama and a sixpack.

Arturo's Mexican Restaurant on, I forget, Damen or Ashland and
Armitage. Great soup and chicken.

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>
> BTW, I heard that Brennan's burned down in the wee hours this morning when
> Hurricane Ike went over.

http://www.khou.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=282427

Mary

On Sep 13, 11:39*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? *Either because you moved
> or they closed? *

Moved.

The shwarma stands in the streets of Dhahran S.A. The shwarma here
are great but are just not the same. One riyal ( CDN0.33) per
shwarma carved off the spit to order.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT), bulka
> wrote:

>On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
>> or they closed?
>
>Some that I miss because I've moved:

I have the same thing going on, cause I have moved.

Berkeley Bowl. One word: wow.

Monterey Market.

The Cheese Board.

The San Francisco bay area farmers markets.

Grocery Outlet(s). I just love those places. The incredible bargains
I can find there.

99 Ranch Markets. And the chinatowns in both Oakland and San
Francisco.

Being so close to the wine country...

Christine, who will be back.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:04:21 -0400, Christine Dabney wrote
(in article >):

> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT), bulka
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sep 13, 11:39 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
>>> or they closed?
>>
>> Some that I miss because I've moved:
>
> I have the same thing going on, cause I have moved.
>
> Berkeley Bowl. One word: wow.
>
> Monterey Market.
>
> The Cheese Board.
>
> The San Francisco bay area farmers markets.
>
> Grocery Outlet(s). I just love those places. The incredible bargains
> I can find there.
>
> 99 Ranch Markets. And the chinatowns in both Oakland and San
> Francisco.
>
> Being so close to the wine country...
>
> Christine, who will be back.

You hit on every one of the places I am so homesick for. I especially miss
Berkeley Bowl and the Cheese Board. I also miss our favorite Korean
restaurant and Dim Sum. I also miss Sushi Sue's which is no longer there (it
was in Alameda).

There are also tons of L.A. places that I miss and don't even know if they
are still there. I miss Roll N Rye deli (I know that is still there) in
Culver City. I also miss all my favorite Sushi spots. I have to say that
Massachusetts is not a culinary "hub".

J.

Christine Dabney wrote:

> Berkeley Bowl. One word: wow.

Bob is going there today. He's in SF this weekend for business stuff and
is swinging by for a shopping spree. Alas, I still haven't been! I think
TammyM and I will be doing a Foodie Trip soon though.

> Grocery Outlet(s). I just love those places. The incredible bargains
> I can find there.

They have opened one in Folsom. I'd never heard of them till started
advertising here last week. I went to the website and couldn't help but
notice that their logo has (what looks to be) the IGA rainbow. I was
never big on the IGA stores.

> 99 Ranch Markets. And the chinatowns in both Oakland and San
> Francisco.

Again, someplace that Bob has talked about but I have yet to visit.

> Being so close to the wine country...
>
> Christine, who will be back.

Well, you know where we live! Gotta place here and a lot of places to go
for wine!!! Placer County is going to be the next Napa/Sonoma.

--Lin (home with my first cold since moving to California. Bleh).

Janis wrote:

> There are also tons of L.A. places that I miss and don't even know if they
> are still there. I miss Roll N Rye deli (I know that is still there) in
> Culver City. I also miss all my favorite Sushi spots. I have to say that
> Massachusetts is not a culinary "hub".

For my mom, it's Johnny's Pastrami in Culver City. (Yes, we have had
this discussion about the best pastrami in that area before!) She's
flying out in October, but we won't have a chance to visit. I hate
driving in that part of SoCal anyway.

--Lin

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
> Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl and
> chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the glass
> front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and screamed
> BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered quarter-fries,
> I think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but this wasn't the
> place to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps.
> There was always a line out the door at lunch time. No parking to speak
> of. And a hardware/feed store next door with dusty windows.
>
> They got too big for their britches, though. Decided to take the show to
> East Memphis for more office-worker traffic. Oh, for a while everyone was
> all atwitter - oooh, Buntyns moved! It's in that shopping center! Lasted
> maybe 4 years. If that. They did some catering gigs for a bit. But in
> the end there was not enough business to support a business that, had they
> stayed put, had been around 40 years. Probably would have stuck around
> another 40. Alas, they got greedy. And then they got gone.
>
> Jill


You rat!

Out of sight out of mind and yet here you go starting me once again:

NYC Patsy's, The Carnegie Deli, & Nathan's (and a few hundred others)
Boston Legal's Seafood
Chicago Giordano's, Roditis (Greek Town) Hackney's (on Harms Way)
Bentonville Fred's Hickory House
San Francisco Boudine Bakery, Scomas
LA The Original pantry, Philippes, Tommy's, Pinks, Curry House (Japanese
Curry) Man Fook Lo & NBC Chinese

Dimitri

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:29:24 -0700, Lin >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> Berkeley Bowl. One word: wow.
>
>Bob is going there today. He's in SF this weekend for business stuff and
>is swinging by for a shopping spree. Alas, I still haven't been! I think
>TammyM and I will be doing a Foodie Trip soon though.

Berkeley Bowl on a Sunday is NOT the place to be. It can be a
madhouse during the week, but the weekend...forget it!!

He should go to Monterey Market. I just love that place. Even more
than Berkeley Bowl. It's smaller, more cramped, but it has wonderful
produce for the most part. And fantastic deals.
>
>> Grocery Outlet(s). I just love those places. The incredible bargains
>> I can find there.
>
>They have opened one in Folsom. I'd never heard of them till started
>advertising here last week. I went to the website and couldn't help but
>notice that their logo has (what looks to be) the IGA rainbow. I was
>never big on the IGA stores.

Oh, they are totally different. Not even related to IGA. There is a
running thread in the San Francisco area Chowhound board, on the
things that people find at the Grocery Outlets. Some deals are
remarkable. Great wine deals too, occasionally.

This month's thread:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/554508

>Well, you know where we live! Gotta place here and a lot of places to go
>for wine!!! Placer County is going to be the next Napa/Sonoma.

I know!!! I think when I get back (which may be for a contract before
I actually get a house there) I will have to host a gathering. It may
be in one of those rinky-dink apartments where the counter space is
nil, and the stove is the pits, but I will do it!! If Blacksun could
hold cook-ins in her little apartment, I will be able to do it!!!

Christine, saving her money

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.

The Eclair, a bakery in Berkeley. They were at their peak
when I was in college, but being a very frugal person,
I'd just look at their incredible displays of sweet stuff
and save my money, until one day when I felt I just had
to try something. Every day, they'd put out a huge display
of many types of pastries and cookies and tortes. I finally
decided on what appeared to be one of those thin flat cookies
mostly sugar that is rolled into a cone while still hot,
then the edge was dipped in chocolate, then it was filled
with whipped cream, and the exposed cream surface was dusted
with some colored dust.

I was so disappointed. It looked so good, and although it was
good, it didn't match my expectations. The cream was so bland.
I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that.

I don't know when the original Eclair closed, but last time
I was in Berkeley there was another bakery under that name
across the street from where the original was, now run by people
that look like Vietnamese. They have a much smaller selection,
nowhere near the craftsmanship of the original, and do not appear
to be very sanitary. I saw ants in their display case.

Christine Dabney wrote:

> Berkeley Bowl on a Sunday is NOT the place to be. It can be a
> madhouse during the week, but the weekend...forget it!!

As you said, it's a madhouse. He just called and said he couldn't even
find a parking space, so he is foregoing Berkeley Bowl for the time
being -- and coming home to cook a soothing soup for me! ;-)

> I know!!! I think when I get back (which may be for a contract before
> I actually get a house there) I will have to host a gathering. It may
> be in one of those rinky-dink apartments where the counter space is
> nil, and the stove is the pits, but I will do it!! If Blacksun could
> hold cook-ins in her little apartment, I will be able to do it!!!

Bob and I, having cooked in an apartment that size before (mine) for a
huge group, wouldn't wish that on our worse enemies! We could avail our
kitchen to you!

--Lin

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:39:09 -0400, "jmcquown" >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
>or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
>For me it's Buntyns in Memphis.
<snip>

Jill - Do you know if "Kubla Khan's" is still in business? IIRC, it
was on/near Poplar in East Memphis, in a strip mall. They had *killer*
food - one of my two favorite Memphis restaurants (the other, of
course, being Corky's). There was also a place called "Just for
Lunch" that was started by some bored Germantown housewives that made
okay lunches when I wanted to splurge/linger at lunch. My boss' wife
was one of the owners, not that I ever got a $$ break because of
*that*!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:57:31 -0400, "kilikini"
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you
>> moved or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>>
>
>(cute story snipped)
>
>There was a little Irish Pub in Seal Beach, CA that I used to practically
>live in. Hennessey's Tavern.

<snip>

There's a Hennessey's Tavern in Dana Point CA on PCH. Wonder if it's
the same outfit.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
> For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
> Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl and
> chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the glass
> front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and screamed
> BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered quarter-fries, I
> think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but this wasn't the place
> to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps. There
> was always a line out the door at lunch time. No parking to speak of. And
> a hardware/feed store next door with dusty windows.


<snip>

Dozens and dozens. Mostly because of my having moved around; others
because they changed ownership or closed.
Hardly even know the names of most of them...just the place on *that*
corner or down that street.

Two stand out though, both closed.

The 'Tea Rooms' Drury Lane, Bloomsbury in London:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/estherase/51248209/

This was taken (not by me) several years after it closed...used to look
much nicer. Could occasionally run into theatre types there while having
lunch.

Rogg's kosher deli in Cannon Street Road, just down the street from me:

http://www.oliviatemple.com/articles/simply_best.html

His children didn't want to take over the business and now the entire
building has been razed.

On Sep 14, 7:53 pm, Arri London > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Are there any food places you particularly miss? Either because you moved
> > or they closed? Like the 2nd Ave. Deli nearly disappeared.
>
> > For me it's Buntyns in Memphis. The original Buntyns was on Southern
> > Avenue. It was a real old-style diner, what with the round red vinyl and
> > chrome twirly "barstools" at the counter and pies and cakes in the glass
> > front cabinet. Homemade rolls that melted in your mouth and screamed
> > BUTTER! The best fried chicken and they did those battered quarter-fries, I
> > think. And the vegetables weren't out of a can, but this wasn't the place
> > to go if you expected steamed broccoli. Squash casserole, perhaps. There
> > was always a line out the door at lunch time. No parking to speak of. And
> > a hardware/feed store next door with dusty windows.
>
> <snip>
>
> Dozens and dozens. Mostly because of my having moved around; others
> because they changed ownership or closed.
> Hardly even know the names of most of them...just the place on *that*
> corner or down that street.
>
> Two stand out though, both closed.
>
> The 'Tea Rooms' Drury Lane, Bloomsbury in London:http://www.flickr.com/photos/estherase/51248209/
>
> This was taken (not by me) several years after it closed...used to look
> much nicer. Could occasionally run into theatre types there while having
> lunch.
>
> Rogg's kosher deli in Cannon Street Road, just down the street from me:
>
> http://www.oliviatemple.com/articles/simply_best.html
>
> His children didn't want to take over the business and now the entire
> building has been razed.

More Chicago

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Polish place under the el at Damen/
Milwaukee. Busy Bee. Sophie was ready to retire and none of the
kid's wanted it. Now the space is some overpriced yup feedlot before
hitting the overpriced yup bars. At least, as of two years ago. I
hear that the recent economy has devastated the boom there. No
sympathy from me. It was a nice neighborhood before the boom.

I never really cared for Sophie's Polish food - the galupki (stuffed
cabbage) had a sauce that tasted like bargain canned tomato soup.

But breakfast around the old formica horseshoe counter was a treat.
Sophie's family were cops, so a lot of them (cops off duty can be
decent people), old timers who have been drinking the same cup of
coffee for years, some living in the SRO upstairs and eating every
meal here. Some of the younger arty types (that was probably my
category). I usually had kiska and eggs.

Oh, and italian beef at Donald Duk's. I know there is Al's #1 and
other famous places, but when I was in school and $3.25 was a splurge
for dinner, there was this flthy shack down the street, run by folks
with an Ozark accent. Take out or picnic tables off the alley. Had
my first beef there. Spicy, soggy, dellicious.

There were a few Duks, but I think the economy or health dept. got to
them.

And while I'm at it, and getting hungry, there is great hamburger
place on Ashland, just north of North.
I know it's not called "Checkers" because that's a chain of drive-
thrus, but they do have a horrible cab-themed black/white/yellow tile
decor.

Their special, though (some is cute name that I can't remember) is a
great sloppy two-handed burger, good slaw and fries that probably were
shipped frozen, but in this context, forgivable.

Chompers. I think that's the name. The special might be a "Chomp-
pak".

Bulka

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:32:48 -0400, Lin wrote
(in article >):

> Janis wrote:
>
>> There are also tons of L.A. places that I miss and don't even know if they
>> are still there. I miss Roll N Rye deli (I know that is still there) in
>> Culver City. I also miss all my favorite Sushi spots. I have to say that
>> Massachusetts is not a culinary "hub".
>
> For my mom, it's Johnny's Pastrami in Culver City. (Yes, we have had
> this discussion about the best pastrami in that area before!) She's
> flying out in October, but we won't have a chance to visit. I hate
> driving in that part of SoCal anyway.
>
> --Lin

Ah, Johnny's Pastrami. The ole "hangout". I miss it.

J.