The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!

I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's made
from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
reaching for a taste.

Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against smart
consumers?

Personally, I found the commercial revolting.

Naturally, be your own judge.

Andy

Andy wrote:
> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's made
> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
> reaching for a taste.
>
> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against smart
> consumers?
>
> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> Naturally, be your own judge.
>
> Andy

I haven't seen that one. The one I saw had a mom pouring a class of
fruit punch for the kids. The other mom was all "OMG! That has HFCS in
it!" The pouring mom said "I know, it's made from corn, everything in
moderation, blah, blah, blah". The scolding mom was dumbstruck. Fade to
black. Whatever.

I am not convinced. Not sure if anyone would be.

-Tracy

Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:

> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in
> it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap
> and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from corn..." and
> it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and reaching
> for a taste.

> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back
> against smart consumers?

> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.

> Naturally, be your own judge.

I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars (and
fructose is only one of them) and also the attempt to play corn syrup as
a substitute for oil in salad dressings (not in my opinion) but not
everyone agrees that HFCS is any danger in itself, especially when it is
listed in order on the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban legends
out there. Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's
> made
> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
> reaching for a taste.
>
> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
> smart
> consumers?
>
> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.

WHY?

What is one empty calorie to another?

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>>
>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
>> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
>> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's
>> made
>> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
>> reaching for a taste.
>>
>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
>> smart
>> consumers?
>>
>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> WHY?
>
> What is one empty calorie to another?

From the reading I've done, I don't see what the big whoop about HFCS is,
in the first place.


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On Fri 19 Sep 2008 12:34:21p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Dimitri wrote:
>
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>>>
>>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a
>>> picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is
>>> about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a
>>> smile, "it's made
>>> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
>>> reaching for a taste.
>>>
>>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
>>> smart
>>> consumers?
>>>
>>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>>
>> WHY?
>>
>> What is one empty calorie to another?
>
> From the reading I've done, I don't see what the big whoop about HFCS
> is, in the first place.
>
>

I don't either.

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>
> > Dimitri wrote:
>
> >> "Andy" <q> wrote in ...
> >>> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> >>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a
> >>> picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is
> >>> about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a
> >>> smile, "it's made
> >>> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
> >>> reaching for a taste.
>
> >>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
> >>> smart
> >>> consumers?
>
> >>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> >> WHY?
>
> >> What is one empty calorie to another?
>
> > From the reading I've done, I don't see what the big whoop about HFCS
> > is, in the first place.
>
> I don't either.
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I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all. It's
only hidden from consumers who don't read labels, of course, but
still, if you are thinking that there couldn't possibly be any sugar
in such-and-such a product, you often will find HFCS in it.

N.

Nancy2 wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT):

>
> I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many
> foods that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at
> all. It's only hidden from consumers who don't read labels,
> of course, but still, if you are thinking that there couldn't
> possibly be any sugar in such-and-such a product, you often
> will find HFCS in it.

It's about the same hidden level as salt, not always such a great thing
either.

--

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Dimitri wrote:
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>>
>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a
>> picnic
>> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
>> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile,
>> "it's made
>> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
>> reaching for a taste.
>>
>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
>> smart
>> consumers?
>>
>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> WHY?
>
> What is one empty calorie to another?

The part of the HFCS-promoting ads that concerns me most is the
statement that the substance is "like sugar, fine in moderation." The
problem is that HFCS is ubiquitous and moderation is nearly impossible
unless one is paying unerring attention to ingredient labels.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> - Show quoted text -

I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all. It's
only hidden from consumers who don't read labels, of course, but
still, if you are thinking that there couldn't possibly be any sugar
in such-and-such a product, you often will find HFCS in it.

N.

Aye, there's the Rub.

Hidden eh. Well when you buy pre-processed packaged foods HFC is what you're
going to get. Ever tasted Prego Spaghetti sauce? For gods sakes you could
use it as icing on a cake. yes it's that sweet.

I suspect part of the problem is the price of sugar in the US. It's so high
even lifesavers are no longer made in America theyr all made in Canada and
the priced for HFC I venture to say its a lot lower.

Dimitri

Here is what wikipedia says.


[edit] In the United States

Because of a system of price supports and sugar quotas imposed since May
1982, importing sugar into the United States is prohibitively expensive.
High-fructose corn syrup, derived from corn, is more economical since the
American and Canadian prices of sugar are artificially far higher than the
global price of sugar[9] and the price of #2 corn is artificially low due to
both government subsidies and dumping on the market as farmers produce more
corn annually.[10][11] The food industry turned to HFCS as a substitute,
with both Coca-Cola and Pepsi switching to HFCS in 1984.[12]
Other countries, including Mexico typically use sugar in soft drinks. Some
Americans seek out Mexican Coke in ethnic groceries, because they feel it
tastes better or is healthier than Coke made with HFCS. [2]
The average American consumed approximately 28.4 kg of HFCS in 2005, versus
26.7 kg of sucrose sugar.[13] In countries where HFCS is not used or rarely
used, sucrose consumption per person may be higher than in the USA; Sucrose
consumption per person from various locations is show below (2002):[14]
USA: 32.4 kg
EU: 40.1 kg
Brazil: 59.7 kg
Australia: 56.2 kg
Of course, in terms of total sugars consumed, the figures from countries
where HFCS is not used should be compared to the sum of the sucrose and HFCS
figures from countries where HFCS consumption is significant.

James Silverton said...

> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:
>
>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
>> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in
>> it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap
>> and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from corn..." and
>> it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and reaching
>> for a taste.
>
>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back
>> against smart consumers?
>
>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>
> I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars (and
> fructose is only one of them) and also the attempt to play corn syrup as
> a substitute for oil in salad dressings (not in my opinion) but not
> everyone agrees that HFCS is any danger in itself, especially when it is
> listed in order on the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban legends
> out there. Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.


James,

Valid points that I'm not going to debate.

All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is genetically
engineered with the specific intention of tricking one or another brain
receptors into not letting the brain actually know that the stomach is
full, so you'll overeat and as a consequence, buy more of their products
more often than usual, end resulting in making them more profits.

I hope/wish I'm mistaken.

Best,

Andy

Nancy2 said...

> I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
> that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all.


Nancy2,

Agreed!!!

Take the bread aisle at the supermarket!!! You'll be hard pressed to find a
loaf of bread that doesn't contain HFCS while in the meantime it's not at all
sweet!!!

The other aisles' products are equally as guilty.

Best,

Andy

Andy wrote:
>
> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is genetically
> engineered with the specific intention of tricking one or another brain
> receptors into not letting the brain actually know that the stomach is
> full, so you'll overeat and as a consequence, buy more of their products
> more often than usual, end resulting in making them more profits.
>
> I hope/wish I'm mistaken.

That's old technology. We now use mind-control beams
broadcast from cellphone towers. Much cheaper and
product-specific. It doesn't help me if you buy my
competitor's cookies or cola, but cellphone beams can
be product-specific by using subliminal suggestion.
Wouldn't a Coke be just right, right now?

Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:08 -0500:

>> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:
>>
>>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
>>> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS
>>> in it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff
>>> crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from
>>> corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend
>>> relenting and reaching for a taste.
>>
>>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight
>>> back against smart consumers?
>>
>>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>>
>>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>>
>> I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars
>> (and fructose is only one of them) and also the attempt to
>> play corn syrup as a substitute for oil in salad dressings
>> (not in my opinion) but not everyone agrees that HFCS is any
>> danger in itself, especially when it is listed in order on
>> the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban legends out there.
>> Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.

> James,

> Valid points that I'm not going to debate.

> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is
> genetically engineered with the specific intention of tricking
> one or another brain receptors into not letting the brain
> actually know that the stomach is full, so you'll overeat and
> as a consequence, buy more of their products more often than
> usual, end resulting in making them more profits.

I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I looked up seems
to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is not genetic engineering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Sep 19, 6:15�pm, Andy <q> wrote:
> Nancy2 said...
>
> > I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
> > that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all.
>
> Nancy2,
>
> Agreed!!!
>
> Take the bread aisle at the supermarket!!! You'll be hard pressed to find a
> loaf of bread that doesn't contain HFCS while in the meantime it's not at all
> sweet!!!
>
> The other aisles' products are equally as guilty.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

The reason the bread doesn't taste sweet is because there's really not
enough corn syrup in it to make it taste sweet. Besides, if someone
told not to eat something because it contained high fructose corn
syrup or trans fats I'd tell them to mind their own dang business.

Mark Thorson said...

> Andy wrote:
>>
>> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is genetically
>> engineered with the specific intention of tricking one or another brain
>> receptors into not letting the brain actually know that the stomach is
>> full, so you'll overeat and as a consequence, buy more of their products
>> more often than usual, end resulting in making them more profits.
>>
>> I hope/wish I'm mistaken.
>
> That's old technology. We now use mind-control beams
> broadcast from cellphone towers. Much cheaper and
> product-specific. It doesn't help me if you buy my
> competitor's cookies or cola, but cellphone beams can
> be product-specific by using subliminal suggestion.
> Wouldn't a Coke be just right, right now?


LOLOLOL!!!

Thanks!

What's left in the food world to worry about now? --JUST KIDDING--

Best,

Andy

James Silverton said...

> I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I looked up seems
> to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is not genetic engineering.


James,

Wikipedia isn't the Journal of ANYTHING!

I don't consider Wiki as a final authority.

Best,

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's
> made
> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
> reaching for a taste.
>
> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
> smart
> consumers?
>
> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> Naturally, be your own judge.


A link would be the crucial item in that post, you ****ing idiot.
Bum, Bum, Bum...Bum, Bum!

TFM®

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:
>
>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
>> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in
>> it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap
>> and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from corn..." and
>> it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and reaching
>> for a taste.
>
>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back
>> against smart consumers?
>
>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>
> I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars (and fructose
> is only one of them) and also the attempt to play corn syrup as a
> substitute for oil in salad dressings (not in my opinion) but not everyone
> agrees that HFCS is any danger in itself, especially when it is listed in
> order on the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban legends out there.
> Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.


Checkout "King Corn".

I'm not organic, but I tend to shy away from HFCS,

TFM®

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> James Silverton said...
>
>> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:
>>
>>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
>>> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in
>>> it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap
>>> and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from corn..." and
>>> it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and reaching
>>> for a taste.
>>
>>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back
>>> against smart consumers?
>>
>>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>>
>>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>>
>> I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars (and
>> fructose is only one of them) and also the attempt to play corn syrup as
>> a substitute for oil in salad dressings (not in my opinion) but not
>> everyone agrees that HFCS is any danger in itself, especially when it is
>> listed in order on the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban legends
>> out there. Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.
>
>
> James,
>
> Valid points that I'm not going to debate.
>
> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is genetically
> engineered with the specific intention of tricking one or another brain
> receptors into not letting the brain actually know that the stomach is
> full, so you'll overeat and as a consequence, buy more of their products
> more often than usual, end resulting in making them more profits.
>
> I hope/wish I'm mistaken.


You're not. Can you say, "Fat-Ass"?

Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, why is it so hard for people to figure out
why their kids are so ****ing fat?

They're being overfed with garbage.

I ate my fill in a tree, the garden, an orchard. Food was free and
plentiful in those days.

Now it's a $15,000 fine if you get caught in an orange grove.

I'm glad I'm getting older. The next 3 generations will be like something
from a sci-fi movie.


TFM®

Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:37:16 -0500:

>> I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I
>> looked up seems to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is
>> not genetic engineering.

> James,

> Wikipedia isn't the Journal of ANYTHING!

> I don't consider Wiki as a final authority.

> Best,

Of course not! But the whole article seems entirely rational and agrees
with what I thought I already knew. Wiki articles do get changed when
there is disagreement and most fears about HFCS seem like pseudo science
to me.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

TFM® said...

>
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> James Silverton said...
>>
>>> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:17:51 -0500:
>>>
>>>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
>>>> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS in
>>>> it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap
>>>> and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from corn..." and
>>>> it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and reaching
>>>> for a taste.
>>>
>>>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back
>>>> against smart consumers?
>>>
>>>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>>>
>>>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>>>
>>> I'll go along with concerns over excessive intake of sugars (and
>>> fructose is only one of them) and also the attempt to play corn syrup
>>> as a substitute for oil in salad dressings (not in my opinion) but not
>>> everyone agrees that HFCS is any danger in itself, especially when it
>>> is listed in order on the ingredients.. There are a lot of urban
>>> legends out there. Look how het up Europeans get about GM foods.
>>
>>
>> James,
>>
>> Valid points that I'm not going to debate.
>>
>> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is genetically
>> engineered with the specific intention of tricking one or another brain
>> receptors into not letting the brain actually know that the stomach is
>> full, so you'll overeat and as a consequence, buy more of their
>> products more often than usual, end resulting in making them more
>> profits.
>>
>> I hope/wish I'm mistaken.
>
>
> You're not. Can you say, "Fat-Ass"?
>
> Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, why is it so hard for people to figure
> out why their kids are so ****ing fat?
>
> They're being overfed with garbage.
>
> I ate my fill in a tree, the garden, an orchard. Food was free and
> plentiful in those days.
>
> Now it's a $15,000 fine if you get caught in an orange grove.
>
> I'm glad I'm getting older. The next 3 generations will be like
> something from a sci-fi movie.
>
>
> TFM®


TFM®,

I spent many summer years o' my youth climbing in and out of apple and plum
trees eating their fruit! Throwing cores and pits at cows! ))

Best,

Andy
STILL likes apples!

TFM® said...

>
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>>
>> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a
picnic
>> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
>> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's
>> made
>> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
>> reaching for a taste.
>>
>> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against
>> smart
>> consumers?
>>
>> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>>
>> Naturally, be your own judge.
>
>
> A link would be the crucial item in that post, you ****ing idiot.
> Bum, Bum, Bum...Bum, Bum!
>
> TFM®


Don't get harsh with me, young man!!!

Andy
BUM!!!

"Andy" <q> wrote

> I spent many summer years o' my youth climbing in and out of apple and
> plum
> trees eating their fruit! Throwing cores and pits at cows! ))
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
> STILL likes apples!


I still like them all, but you won't catch me in no stinking tree! I'll eat
all I can reach from the ground.

TFM®

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Nancy2 said...
>
>> I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
>> that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all.
>
>
> Nancy2,
>
> Agreed!!!
>
> Take the bread aisle at the supermarket!!! You'll be hard pressed to find
> a
> loaf of bread that doesn't contain HFCS while in the meantime it's not at
> all
> sweet!!!
>
> The other aisles' products are equally as guilty.


Stay out of the aisles. Walk the perimeter and leave.

TFM®

TFM® said...

>
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote
>
>> I spent many summer years o' my youth climbing in and out of apple and
>> plum
>> trees eating their fruit! Throwing cores and pits at cows! ))
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>> STILL likes apples!
>
>
> I still like them all, but you won't catch me in no stinking tree! I'll
> eat all I can reach from the ground.
>
> TFM®


TFM®,

<VBG>

Same here, nowadays! I was a sprout then. Now I'm a sparagus.

Best,

Andy

TFM® said...

>
>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Nancy2 said...
>>
>>> I think the main "big whoop" is that it is "hidden" in so many foods
>>> that you wouldn't ordinarily think need any sweetener at all.
>>
>>
>> Nancy2,
>>
>> Agreed!!!
>>
>> Take the bread aisle at the supermarket!!! You'll be hard pressed to
find
>> a
>> loaf of bread that doesn't contain HFCS while in the meantime it's not
at
>> all
>> sweet!!!
>>
>> The other aisles' products are equally as guilty.
>
>
> Stay out of the aisles. Walk the perimeter and leave.
>
> TFM®


Yeah but... but... you need prescriptions when you cart past the pharmacy!




Andy

Andy <q> wrote in :

> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are
> having a picnic and the girl is eating something with HFCS
> in it and the boy is about to pounce, pronouncing the stuff
> crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's made from
> corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend
> relenting and reaching for a taste.

there are 2 of the commercials. i've seen them on YouTube (i
don't watch tv) & they are made to make the opponants of HFCS
look like brainless, inarticulate morons...
>
> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight
> back against smart consumers?

yup, the anti-HFCS folks are making a dent in profits or they
wouldn't be trying to push the crap.

> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.

it's pretty insulting, but it's a great one to use as an
object lesson in advertising manipulation with my kid.
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

On Sep 19, 2:17*pm, Andy <q> wrote:
> The High Fructose Corn Syrup TV Commercial!
>
> I just saw a TV commercial about HFCS. A teen "couple" are having a picnic
> and the girl is eating something with HFCS in it and the boy is about to
> pounce, pronouncing the stuff crap and the girl says with a smile, "it's made
> from corn..." and it ends with him, needing a girlfriend relenting and
> reaching for a taste.
>
> Ya think the food concerns using HFCS are trying to fight back against smart
> consumers?
>
> Personally, I found the commercial revolting.
>
> Naturally, be your own judge.
>
> Andy

I foolishly thought it was going to be a commercial for a healthy
snack, but no, it's from the folks who aren't making enough money
selling their product for ethanol.

WTH, what are poor ad-men to do now that we won't let them create ads
for cigarettes and alcohol any more?

maxine in ri

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:36:26 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>
>> Valid points that I'm not going to debate.
>
>> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is
>> genetically engineered with the specific intention of tricking
>> one or another brain receptors into not letting the brain
>> actually know that the stomach is full, so you'll overeat and
>> as a consequence, buy more of their products more often than
>> usual, end resulting in making them more profits.
>
>I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I looked up seems
>to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is not genetic engineering.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

James: Agreed. When we chew our food, we are performing enzymatic
processing. The enzymes (biological catalysts) in saliva begin the
digestion process. Chew on a salt-free saltine cracker for several
minutes and you may notice a slight sweet taste. Your saliva enzymes
are breaking down the starches in the cracker into their component
sugars.

HFCS is processed with enzymes. So is beer. So are most
chocolate-covered cherries--the centers start out solid, they turn
into liquid.

In most of today's sweetened foods, it don't matter whether it's
sugar, or all-natural-brown sugar, or HFCS. It's calories and
sweetness. Not much else.

Best -- Terry

maxine in ri said...

> WTH, what are poor ad-men to do now that we won't let them create ads
> for cigarettes and alcohol any more?
>
> maxine in ri


maxine in ri,

Right. I dunno. They'll think of something.

Best,

Andy

"enigma" > wrote

> there are 2 of the commercials. i've seen them on YouTube (i
> don't watch tv) & they are made to make the opponants of HFCS
> look like brainless, inarticulate morons...

I've only seen the one where a mother is pouring red
sugar water into a glass for her kid. I mean, how much
nutrition is in that gallon of juice drink aside from sugar and
water. I think the HFCS people demonstrated their
product wonderfully in that ad.

nancy

Andy said...

> maxine in ri said...
>
>> WTH, what are poor ad-men to do now that we won't let them create ads
>> for cigarettes and alcohol any more?
>>
>> maxine in ri
>
>
> maxine in ri,
>
> Right. I dunno. They'll think of something.


maxine in ri,

I have a sneaking suspicion I took that out of context!

<sheepish grin>

Andy

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:29:07 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"enigma" > wrote
>
>> there are 2 of the commercials. i've seen them on YouTube (i
>> don't watch tv) & they are made to make the opponants of HFCS
>> look like brainless, inarticulate morons...
>
>I've only seen the one where a mother is pouring red
>sugar water into a glass for her kid. I mean, how much
>nutrition is in that gallon of juice drink aside from sugar and
>water. I think the HFCS people demonstrated their
>product wonderfully in that ad.
>
I must not be watching the right channels. What shows or kinds of
shows do they typically put those advertisements on?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:37:16 -0500, Andy wrote:

> James Silverton said...
>
>> I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I looked up seems
>> to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is not genetic engineering.
>
>
> James,
>
> Wikipedia isn't the Journal of ANYTHING!
>
> I don't consider Wiki as a final authority.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

most wikipedia articles have cites, many (as does this one) to journal
articles. but do feel free to remain stupid if you wish.

blake

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:31:52 GMT, James Silverton wrote:

> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:37:16 -0500:
>
>>> I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I
>>> looked up seems to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is
>>> not genetic engineering.
>
>> James,
>
>> Wikipedia isn't the Journal of ANYTHING!
>
>> I don't consider Wiki as a final authority.
>
>> Best,
>
> Of course not! But the whole article seems entirely rational and agrees
> with what I thought I already knew. Wiki articles do get changed when
> there is disagreement and most fears about HFCS seem like pseudo science
> to me.

frankly, i thought most objections to h.f.c.s. were based on taste and the
fact the damned stuff is ubiquitous, not 'omgomg, they're killing us all!'

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:52:32 -0500, Terry wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:36:26 GMT, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>> Valid points that I'm not going to debate.
>>
>>> All I recall from the year-ago-studies is that HFCS is
>>> genetically engineered with the specific intention of tricking
>>> one or another brain receptors into not letting the brain
>>> actually know that the stomach is full, so you'll overeat and
>>> as a consequence, buy more of their products more often than
>>> usual, end resulting in making them more profits.
>>
>>I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I looked up seems
>>to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is not genetic engineering.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
>
> James: Agreed. When we chew our food, we are performing enzymatic
> processing. The enzymes (biological catalysts) in saliva begin the
> digestion process. Chew on a salt-free saltine cracker for several
> minutes and you may notice a slight sweet taste. Your saliva enzymes
> are breaking down the starches in the cracker into their component
> sugars.
>

ptyalin, or salivary amylase. my recollection is that it is not
manufactured by the stomach at all, so chew your food well, kids!

your pal,
fletcher

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> I've only seen the one where a mother is pouring red
> sugar water into a glass for her kid. I mean, how much
> nutrition is in that gallon of juice drink aside from sugar and water. I
> think the HFCS people demonstrated their product wonderfully in that ad.
>
> nancy

I'm more concerned about the red food coloring that the sugar though. My
son would get hyper-active from red coloring.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> I've only seen the one where a mother is pouring red
>> sugar water into a glass for her kid. I mean, how much
>> nutrition is in that gallon of juice drink aside from sugar and water. I
>> think the HFCS people demonstrated their product wonderfully in that ad.

> I'm more concerned about the red food coloring that the sugar though. My
> son would get hyper-active from red coloring.

I can see that ... there was nothing in that gallon jug of
red stuff that seems like health food to me, and the red
coloring fits right in with that.

It just kind of made me laugh how bad the commercial
is. Look how good our product is, it's even in this crap!

nancy

On Sat 20 Sep 2008 09:28:18a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:31:52 GMT, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote on Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:37:16 -0500:
>>
>>>> I can't debate the accuracy but the Wikipedia article I
>>>> looked up seems to totally disagree. Enzymatic processing is
>>>> not genetic engineering.
>>
>>> James,
>>
>>> Wikipedia isn't the Journal of ANYTHING!
>>
>>> I don't consider Wiki as a final authority.
>>
>>> Best,
>>
>> Of course not! But the whole article seems entirely rational and agrees
>> with what I thought I already knew. Wiki articles do get changed when
>> there is disagreement and most fears about HFCS seem like pseudo science
>> to me.
>
> frankly, i thought most objections to h.f.c.s. were based on taste and
the
> fact the damned stuff is ubiquitous, not 'omgomg, they're killing us
all!'
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

It depends on who you listen to. Unfortunately, there are always going to
be alarmists.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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