I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?

If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else - labeled
as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for processed food
and goods - parts from here, parts from there.

Ken


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remember that it is still an evil." - Max Lerner

Ken wrote on 22 Sep 2008 17:40:33 GMT:

> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else
> - labeled as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible
> for processed food and goods - parts from here, parts from
> there.

Where the food is processed or packed is what you mean I think. Fish is
caught at sea outside national boundaries, unfortunately so are whales.


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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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James Silverton wrote:
>
> Ken wrote on 22 Sep 2008 17:40:33 GMT:
>
> > If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else
> > - labeled as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible
> > for processed food and goods - parts from here, parts from
> > there.
>
> Where the food is processed or packed is what you mean I think. Fish is
> caught at sea outside national boundaries, unfortunately so are whales.

Not all fish. Some are caught in rivers,
raised in ponds on land, or raised in pens
anchored offshore within a nation's territorial
waters or exclusive economic zone.

Ken wrote:
> I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
> country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?
>
> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else - labeled
> as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for processed food
> and goods - parts from here, parts from there.


AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems lately
with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt for
crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that we
don't have to import dairy products from China?

Dave Smith wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>> I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
>> country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?
>>
>> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else -
>> labeled as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for
>> processed food and goods - parts from here, parts from there.
>
>
> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
> more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems lately
> with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt for
> crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that we
> don't have to import dairy products from China?
>
>
Given the pet food misery last year and all the other bad practices that
exposed, I wonder why our government allows the importation of any food
product from China. China is changing, but it has some serious problems
with its manufacturing and food production industries that don't appear
to be being addressed.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:40:36 -0400, flitterbit wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
>>> country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?
>>>
>>> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else -
>>> labeled as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for
>>> processed food and goods - parts from here, parts from there.
>>
>>
>> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
>> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
>> more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems lately
>> with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt for
>> crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that we
>> don't have to import dairy products from China?
> >
> >
> Given the pet food misery last year and all the other bad practices that
> exposed, I wonder why our government allows the importation of any food
> product from China. China is changing, but it has some serious problems
> with its manufacturing and food production industries that don't appear
> to be being addressed.

well, let's not go nuts here. i would miss pearl river bridge products.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:40:36 -0400, flitterbit wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Ken wrote:
>>>> I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
>>>> country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?
>>>>
>>>> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else -
>>>> labeled as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for
>>>> processed food and goods - parts from here, parts from there.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
>>> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
>>> more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems lately
>>> with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt for
>>> crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that we
>>> don't have to import dairy products from China?
>> >
>> >
>> Given the pet food misery last year and all the other bad practices that
>> exposed, I wonder why our government allows the importation of any food
>> product from China. China is changing, but it has some serious problems
>> with its manufacturing and food production industries that don't appear
>> to be being addressed.
>
> well, let's not go nuts here. i would miss pearl river bridge products.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>
I'm more concerned about "fresh" foods, such as produce, dairy and meat,
or processed goods marketed for protein content, such as protein powders
or feed for fish farms and things like that (both were involved in the
melamine-tainted food scandals last year). Sauces and so on are
probably less likely to be adulterated to falsely enhance nutritive value.

Dave Smith wrote:
> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
> more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems lately
> with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt for
> crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that we
> don't have to import dairy products from China?

And suddenly I have notice a lot of our fruit products are coming
from China. What happened to OUR orchards? Are we just going to
put our farmers out of business and get out food from elsewhere?
That sounds extremely unwise to me, for more than one reason.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
>> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a lot
>> more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems
>> lately with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is yogurt
>> for crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies here that
>> we don't have to import dairy products from China?
>
> And suddenly I have notice a lot of our fruit products are coming from
> China. What happened to OUR orchards? Are we just going to put our
> farmers out of business and get out food from elsewhere? That sounds
> extremely unwise to me, for more than one reason.
>

I live in the middle of a very productive fruit belt but farmers are
having a hard time because the last cannery closed its doors last year.
It's great for those of us who enjoy fresh fruits and vegetables, but
the farmers used to sell most of their produce to the canneries. I
always tried to get the locally canned stuff, but most of it is from
Asia or South Africa now.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> AFAIK, all processed and canned foods here indicate the country of
>>> origin. However, raw seafood does not. I am going to be looking a
>>> lot more carefully at food origins. There have been too many problems
>>> lately with Chinese food products. The latest to be recalled is
>>> yogurt for crying out loud. Don't we have enough cows and dairies
>>> here that we don't have to import dairy products from China?
>>
>> And suddenly I have notice a lot of our fruit products are coming from
>> China. What happened to OUR orchards? Are we just going to put our
>> farmers out of business and get out food from elsewhere? That sounds
>> extremely unwise to me, for more than one reason.
>>
>
> I live in the middle of a very productive fruit belt but farmers are
> having a hard time because the last cannery closed its doors last year.
> It's great for those of us who enjoy fresh fruits and vegetables, but
> the farmers used to sell most of their produce to the canneries. I
> always tried to get the locally canned stuff, but most of it is from
> Asia or South Africa now.
>
Last night, I made a point of getting some canned pears that were
from the US. They were very hard to find. We'd better start
supporting our farmers--first local, then at least in this
country, or we are going to be in big trouble.

--
Jean B.

Ken wrote:
> I seem to remeber reading that frozen fish have to be labeled with
> country or origin - or is that only if Chinese? Or am I mis-remembering?
>
> If so, I'd love to see all food - and perhaps everything else - labeled
> as to country of origin. Perhaps that's not possible for processed food
> and goods - parts from here, parts from there.

All seafood has to be labeled with it's country of origin. They're
called "COOL" regulations. Any retailer not labeling the origin of
fresh or frozen unprocessed seafood is in violation of the law.

I don't think they've been extended to meat or produce yet as there have
a been a lot of back and forths on that issue, but many retailers are
doing so voluntarily as it's inevitable. All the produce that has
little stickers on it says the country of origin - at least at my normal
grocery stores.

-sw