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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm

Paul Newman has died.


Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
continue?

Thanks.

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> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?



Yes, it will.
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On Sat 27 Sep 2008 04:44:10p, Corey Richardson told us...

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
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> Paul Newman has died.
>
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.


All of Newman's products should continue. IIRC, all profits from the sale
of his products were funneled back to his foundations/charities, and I
believe one of his daughters is chiefly involved in administering these.

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Corey Richardson > wrote in
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>
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.
>



http://63.131.143.186/

"Today, Newman’s Own is a thriving company with hundreds of millions of
dollars in annual revenue. As always, all profits are donated to charity
through Newman's Own Foundation. We will miss Paul, but we will honor
his vision for the Common Good through dedicated stewardship of his
company that will perpetuate his philanthropic legacy. Paul wouldn’t
have it any other way."


Here in Oz we have this push to "buy Australian"....... but I always buy
Newmans dressings and sauces becase a) they taste bloody great, and b) I
know the profits are going to go to charity...... for real.

I will continue to buy them.


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Corey Richardson > wrote:

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> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?


Proof again that you just post (and cross-post) to hear
yourself talk and deceive people into responding.

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Corey Richardson wrote:
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>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.


Do you, Corey, have reason to believe otherwise??? Why do you doubt
Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue? He was a
man who gave back more than he ever received.

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> Why do you doubt Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would
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Er... I don't think you wrote quite what you meant, there.

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> > Why do you doubt Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would
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> Er... I don't think you wrote quite what you meant, there.
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> Bob


Probably - I do tend to get backwards (sigh).

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Sky said...

> Corey Richardson wrote:
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>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>>
>> Paul Newman has died.
>>
>> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
>> continue?
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> Do you, Corey, have reason to believe otherwise??? Why do you doubt
> Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue? He was a
> man who gave back more than he ever received.
>
> Sky



His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
up to the plate more so!

Andy
Go Phillies!!! That's Philadelphia baseball for the rest of you BUMS!!!



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On Sep 27, 7:44*pm, Corey Richardson >
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> Paul Newman has died.
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.


Why wouldn't they? It's not like he personally had been mixing up the
salad dressings and pouring them into bottles out back in the
kitchen.
He did base the original "Newmans Own" vinaigrette on the salad
dressing recipe he developed in his own kitchen, but at this point,
it's just his name on the bottles, nothing more. There's absolutely no
reason for the brand to disappear.

Newman and his friend author A.E. Hotchner (Papa Hemingway, King Of
The Hill, Everyone Comes To Elaine’s) started Newman’s Own as a bit of
a lark.

For years, the two men had been making salad dressing and giving it
away as Christmas gifts when they went caroling in their Connecticut
neighbourhood.

They decided to try to market the salad dressing, starting out by
placing it in local shops, and after getting friends to do taste tests
they settled on a single product: an oil-and-vinegar salad dressing.
Newman put his picture on the label, apparently as a joke, and then he
convinced a friend in the grocery business to get the ball rolling by
taking a few thousands cases.

Various grocery consultants and marketing experts were all very happy
to warn Newman that he could only lose money, and lots of it, with his
tiny new business, but Newman’s Own Olive Oil & Vinegar Salad Dressing
made a profit its first year out. The company then grew in leaps and
bounds, and as Newman food fans know, the single salad dressing was
joined by other dressings, spaghetti sauces, salsa and lemonade, among
other products. (We recommend the Newman’s Own grape juice.)

About 15 years ago, Newman’s daughter Nell helped the company branch
out with a new line of organic products that includes organic dog and
cat food.
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> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?
>
> Thanks.




>About 15 years ago, Newman’s daughter Nell helped the company branch
>out with a new line of organic products that includes organic dog and
>cat food.


I love Joanne Woodward's story about going out to a restaurant and having
Paul take his salad to the wash room and rinse it so he could apply his own
mix.


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>Sky said
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>> Why do you doubt
>> Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue?

>
>because hes a troll who constantly xposts nonsense between these two
>groups.


1 I'm *not* a troll!

2 It's *not* nonsense, it's a valid question!


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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:27:03 -0400, "Putz Place" >
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>Out, damn'd Troll! out, I say!
>One; two: why, then 'tis time to do't.
>Hell is murky.
>Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and afeard?
>What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our pow'r to accompt?
>Yet who would have thought the old Troll to have had so much blood in him?
>
>
>"Corey Richardson" > Trolled in message
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>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>>
>> Paul Newman has died.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
>> continue?

>
>Dumb ass. Do you really believe that he made everything in his own little
>kitchen, all by his little own hands?
>
>Go suck a goat, fart-face
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>> Thanks.
>>

>


Why did you set your follow up to alt.usenet.kooks, troll?


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> Sky said...
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>> Corey Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7639614.stm
>>>
>>> Paul Newman has died.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
>>> continue?
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> Do you, Corey, have reason to believe otherwise??? Why do you doubt
>> Paul Newman's vast philantropic businesses would discontinue? He was a
>> man who gave back more than he ever received.
>>
>> Sky

>
>
> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
> up to the plate more so!
>
> Andy
> Go Phillies!!! That's Philadelphia baseball for the rest of you BUMS!!!



His daughter spun off the organic division - Newman's own website has the
whole story.

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>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>> step
>> up to the plate more so!


Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.


Dave hoping he trimmed this right.
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"Dave" > wrote in message
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> Dimitri wrote:
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>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

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>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
>>> up to the plate more so!

>
> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was on a
> cookery prog on TV in the UK.


I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the states.
Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos we played
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>>> "Andy" <q> wrote


>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going
>>>> to step up to the plate more so!

>>
>> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it
>> was on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.

>
> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which
> 'cos we played rounders. :-)


Home plate! Step up to bat.

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Pete Wilkins said...

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> "Dave" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>>> ...

>>
>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>> step up to the plate more so!

>>
>> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>> on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.

>
> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
> we played rounders. :-)



This should clear up everything!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

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>> lieve stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the states.
>> Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos we played
>> rounders. :-)

>
> same thing isnt it?


LOL! No comment. (This is crossposted.)

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> Pete Wilkins said...
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>> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
>> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
>> we played rounders. :-)

>
>
> This should clear up everything!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
>
> Andy


That is an absolute gem! Thanks for posting.

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Dave said...

> Dimitri wrote:
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>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>
>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>> step
>>> up to the plate more so!

>
> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
> on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>
>
> Dave hoping he trimmed this right.



Dave,

When you "step up to the plate" in baseball it means you're in the game!
Not just sitting in the dugout the whole game (OR season). "Moreso" means
she'll be in the game (biz) a lot more than usual.

Now when YOU step up to the plate for dinner, that could only mean NO
LEFTOVERS!

Best,

Best,

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> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Pete Wilkins said...
>>>
>>> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
>>> states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
>>> we played rounders. :-)

>>
>>
>> This should clear up everything!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
>>
>> Andy

>
> That is an absolute gem! Thanks for posting.



Welcome!

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>>"Dave" > wrote in message
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>>>Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Andy" <q> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>>His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>>step up to the plate more so!
>>>
>>>Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>>>on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.

>>
>>I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
>>states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
>>we played rounders. :-)

>
>
>
> This should clear up everything!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M##



I'm not too sure about that. Only the USAians could get away with that
slap stick. :-)

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Pete Wilkins wrote:

> "Dave" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Dimitri wrote:
>>
>>>"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>>
>>>>His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to step
>>>>up to the plate more so!

>>
>>Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was on a
>>cookery prog on TV in the UK.

>
>
> I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the states.
> Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos we played
> rounders. :-)


Thanks for that. I feel more clued up now.

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Andy wrote:

> Dave said...
>
>
>>Dimitri wrote:
>>
>>>"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>>
>>>>His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>step
>>>>up to the plate more so!

>>
>>Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>>on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>>
>>
>>Dave hoping he trimmed this right.

>
>
>
> Dave,
>
> When you "step up to the plate" in baseball it means you're in the game!
> Not just sitting in the dugout the whole game (OR season). "Moreso" means
> she'll be in the game (biz) a lot more than usual.
>
> Now when YOU step up to the plate for dinner, that could only mean NO
> LEFTOVERS!
>
> Best,
>
> Best,


Many thanks.

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Dave said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Dave said...
>>
>>
>>>Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>>His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>>step
>>>>>up to the plate more so!
>>>
>>>Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>>>on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave hoping he trimmed this right.

>>
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> When you "step up to the plate" in baseball it means you're in the game!
>> Not just sitting in the dugout the whole game (OR season). "Moreso"

means
>> she'll be in the game (biz) a lot more than usual.
>>
>> Now when YOU step up to the plate for dinner, that could only mean NO
>> LEFTOVERS!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Best,

>
> Many thanks.
>
> Dave



Welcomes!

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>
>
> Does anyone know if the range of Paul Newman salad dressings will
> continue?


Make mine two lumps.


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> Andy wrote:
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>> Pete Wilkins said...
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>>
>>>"Dave" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>Dimitri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Andy" <q> wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>>His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>>>step up to the plate more so!
>>>>
>>>>Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>>>>on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>>>
>>>I believe stepping up to the plate is originally from baseball in the
>>>states. Batting plate or pitching plate? I don't really know which 'cos
>>>we played rounders. :-)

>>
>>
>>
>> This should clear up everything!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M##

>
>
> I'm not too sure about that. Only the USAians could get away with that
> slap stick. :-)
>
> Dave



Dave,

We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

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>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>
>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>> step
>>> up to the plate more so!

>
> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was on
> a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>
>
> Dave hoping he trimmed this right.



http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/...p+to+the+plate

step up to the plate

to take responsibility for doing something. It is time companies stepped up
to the plate and made sure the meat they sell is safe to eat.
Related vocabulary: step in
Etymology: based on the baseball meaning of step up to the plate (= move
into position to hit the ball)
See also: plate, step
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Dimitri wrote:
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> "Dave" > wrote in message
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>
>> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>>
>>
>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going
>>>> to step
>>>> up to the plate more so!

>>
>>
>> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it
>> was on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>>
>>
>> Dave hoping he trimmed this right.

>
>
>
> http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/...p+to+the+plate
>
> step up to the plate
>
> to take responsibility for doing something. It is time companies stepped
> up to the plate and made sure the meat they sell is safe to eat.
> Related vocabulary: step in
> Etymology: based on the baseball meaning of step up to the plate (= move
> into position to hit the ball)
> See also: plate, step
> Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms © Cambridge University Press 2003


Thanks for that. As I understand it, it comes from baseball. I can now
see how it evolved.

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"Dave" > wrote in message
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> Dimitri wrote:
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>> "Dave" > wrote in message
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>>> Dimitri wrote:
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>>>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>> step
>>>>> up to the plate more so!
>>>
>>>
>>> Where did this expression originate from? The first time I heard it was
>>> on a cookery prog on TV in the UK.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave hoping he trimmed this right.

>>
>>
>>
>> http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/...p+to+the+plate
>>
>> step up to the plate
>>
>> to take responsibility for doing something. It is time companies stepped
>> up to the plate and made sure the meat they sell is safe to eat.
>> Related vocabulary: step in
>> Etymology: based on the baseball meaning of step up to the plate (= move
>> into position to hit the ball)
>> See also: plate, step
>> Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms © Cambridge University Press 2003

>
> Thanks for that. As I understand it, it comes from baseball. I can now see
> how it evolved.
>
> Dave


Happy to help - idioms are an important part of language and usually
difficult for the non native speaker to understand.

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>>>> Dimitri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> His daughter had some part in the biz. I would imagine she's going to
>>>>>> step up to the plate more so!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where did this expression originate from? >>>>
>>>
>>> step up to the plate
>>>
>>> to take responsibility for doing something.

>>
>> Thanks for that. As I understand it, it comes from baseball. I can now
>> see how it evolved.
>>
>> Dave

>
> Happy to help - idioms are an important part of language and usually
> difficult for the non native speaker to understand.
>
> Dimitri


Like the Britishism, "Spend a penny" which I could never have figured out on
my own, because it was always at least a nickel in the US. They don't have
pay toilets anymore, do they? When did they finish?


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> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!


What convenient, short term would you use to distinguish citizens of the
USA from others on the American continents?

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> On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:29:51 -0500, Andy wrote in post :
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>
>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

>
> What convenient, short term would you use to distinguish citizens of the
> USA from others on the American continents?



Every country comprising all the "Americas" fly their own flags that
distinguishes them as unique and individual nations. For Brazil, we know
them as Brazilian. Peru, Peruvians, Argentina, Argentineans. Would a
Brazilian say he was from South America without losing a sense of their
national pride?

A similar example can be drawn with Asia and Asians. It's a general thing
when speaking collectively about the Far East countries. But we distinguish
them as unique and individual nations. Chinese for China, Japanese for
Japan, etc.

You wouldn't call a travel agent and book a flight to Tokyo, Asia or
Acapulco, Central America, or Montreal, North America would you?!

BTW, American is only four syllables, USAians is five syllables (USA-i-an).
American is THE convenient short term. Granted USAian is too commonly used
and it IS too late to bring it up for further debate but it's not in my
vocabulary.

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American, not North American or USAian


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"Andy" <q> ha scritto nel messaggio > BTW, American is only four syllables,
USAians is five syllables (USA-i-an).
> American is THE convenient short term. Granted USAian is too commonly used
> and it IS too late to bring it up for further debate but it's not in my
> vocabulary.
>
> Andy
> American, not North American or USAian


Be that as it may be, I know many other Americans who find it offensive,
especially South Americans. I don't always, but sometimes say USian
depending on the context.


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>> I know many other Americans who find it offensive,
>> especially South Americans.

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> they *do* find "americans" offensive. I didnt know that.
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Don't snip me into insults I didn't make.


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Mike........... wrote:
> Following up to Andy
>
>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

>
> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
> coming.


Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
America is not a continent.

But our country is called America.

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Nancy Young said:
> Mike........... wrote:
>> Following up to Andy
>>
>>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!

>>
>> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
>> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
>> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
>> coming.

>
> Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
> America is not a continent.
>
> But our country is called America.
>


I thought it was called the United States of America. Just as here we live
in assorted parts of a country called either Great Britain or the United
Kingdom, depending which bits you are including at the time.

Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian thing; it
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kat wrote:
> Nancy Young said:
>> Mike........... wrote:
>>> Following up to Andy
>>>
>>>> We're Americans. USAians is a derogatory thing to say, imho!
>>>
>>> Its a confused term, I think many europeans see "american" as
>>> disrespectful of south americans, but i never heard a south american
>>> say that and as USian sounds daft I dont see a practical change
>>> coming.

>>
>> Well, South Americans are just that, just as we are North Americans.
>> America is not a continent.
>>
>> But our country is called America.


> I thought it was called the United States of America.


Right, shortened to America. America is not short for "all the countries
in the two contents of South and North America."

Just as Mexico is called what it is, people don't go around
calling their people UMSians, right? But it is the United Mexican
States, no?

> Just as here
> we live in assorted parts of a country called either Great Britain or
> the United Kingdom, depending which bits you are including at the
> time.
>
> Despite many years online I have only recently seen this USAian
> thing; it looks clumsy to me.


I don't like it, and I don't answer to it. Heh.

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