Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

> The message
> > from
> Leonard Blaisdell > contains these words:
>
>> In article >,
>> Sqwerz > wrote:
>
>> > Any other dog owners want to take a stab at explaining why somebody
>> > would only feed their dog every three days?
>
>> Nope. If the dog is trim but not skinny, they're fed enough.
>
> Not necessarily. Weight and calories, are not the only nutritional
> issue. Trim doesn't guarantee they are receiving enough of the right
> nutrients for good health or to keep their organs working properly.
> You can see trim people (and dogs) who are neither fat nor thin but
> also have serious diet-deficiency health problems, because WHAT they
> eat (or don't eat) , is as important as calorie intake and
> expenditure. How often they eat, also matters to maintaining healthy
> metabolism and brain function.
>


You obviously think that if you gibber enough shit, someone will believe
you...... because you bred a vet.





--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

"Kathleen" > wrote
>
> I don't give a wet slap who you will or won't talk to. My issue is not
> with "3 dogs", it's with *you* and your treatment of your dog.
>

What more can you expect from this blowhard, needledick sob? Most of the
time his comments are designed to get any kind of attention at all, not to
be true. Though I would say he's almost certainly just the kind of "man" who
would really get off on all the "power" he has over helpless creatures.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> *sigh* It's useless Kathleen. Lucas is a lost cause. Don't even try to
> reason with him. Apparently he has a thing for me though by his
> mentioning me on a routine basis. Several others too. I never see his
> posts unless someone, I regularly read, responds to him. I'm not miffed
> because he won't talk to me. I would just as soon never see him.

You're right of course. Maltreatment of dogs is a major hot button
issue for me, but since he appears to be completely ineducable I need to
just go ahead and filter him.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:14:50 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Julia Altshuler >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> PeterLucas wrote:
>>>
>>> LOL!! Nope....... she's a 'gourmet dog'........ loves her pates, and
>>> olives, and cheeses........ especially when they're on crackers!! And
>>> she just *loves* pasta, especially when it's been warmed.
>>>
>>> Plus, I only feed her every other day, and depending on what she has,
>>> maybe once every 3 days. She won't get anything else now till Monday
>>> evening.
>>>
>>> It keeps her 'lean and mean' :-)
>>>
>>> http://i37.tinypic.com/2m3lqhc.jpg
>>
>>
>> Have you checked your feeding schedule with her veterinarian? Over on
>> the dog group, we're always talking about people who overfeed dogs and
>> people who don't recognize when their dogs are obese. It's great that
>> you know to keep your dog lean. In the picture, she looks like she
>> has a healthy weight.
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering about the every other day schedule, though. I feed my
>> dog once daily and give her training treats throughout the day. Many
>> recommend twice daily feedings for a healthy adult dog. I've never
>> heard of letting it go for as long as 3 days. It seems too long to
>> me, but if your veterinarian recommends it, I'll say nothing more.
>
> I was completely disgusted by what he wrote above. But you DO realize
> don't you, that Lucas will think he knows better than any professional
> that has been backed by centuries of science behind them. Yessirrr... He
> knows all about it. The dog is beautiful. My dog eats 2x a day also.
> We've always followed veterinary guidelines with our animals. I wouldn't
> do it any other way. Denying the dog food for 3 days is completely
> irresponsible.
>
> Michael

i does seem a little out there. maybe the dog will get ****ed and eat
lucas.

your pal,
blake

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> However, it is doubtful said pet owner would be admitted. One has to be
> exceptionally bright to gain admittance. At least here in the US.
>
> Michael

It is so difficult to get admitted into vet school in Texas, that some
of the students go to school in other states. My former dentist was
denied admission into vet school, so he became a dentist. I would not
tell that story to just anybody. It makes you lose confidence in your
dentist.

Becca

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
>
> ********!!
>
> As was explained to me by the vet that has been looking after her since
> she was 8 weeks old, I was feeding her once a day, and she was being
> overfed (2 x chicken frames). Dogs are masters at changing their
> metabolism to suit their 'scenario'. If they aren't getting food on
> demand, they shift their metabolism to suit, and slow down. My poochs'
> ideal body weight is 32kgs. For the past 4 years she has maintained that
> weight.
>
> Dogs can go for a month with no food........ as long as they have water
> they are fine.
>

humans can go without food for a pretty long time as long as they have
water, too. doesn't mean they enjoy it, or that it is harmless.

blake

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:15:26 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:

> Janet Baraclough > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>
>>> Dogs can go for a month with no food........ as long as they have
>>> water they are fine.
>>
>> Crap
>
>
> Yes, of course, you're *completely* right, because you don't agree with
> the concept, right?
>
> You didn't even bother to do some research into the facts, did you?
> Why am I not suprised?
>
>
> http://www.buzzle.com/articles/the-h...-of-water-for-
> dogs.html
>
>
> "Veterinarians explain that water is an important part of the dog's
> nutritional needs. Three quarters or 70% of the dog's anatomical make up
> is water. A month without food will make the dog lose its fat and
> muscles. The dog can still live without protein or fat. But if he loses
> even a tenth of the water in his body, he surely will die."
>

so a paragraph on how important water is proves you should only feed your
dog every third day?

blake

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:31:13 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
>
> She is now a happy, contented dog, who is at her ideal weight, which
> will see her in good stead in a few years time when the old cruciate
> injury starts to play up. She is *not* constantly hungry, and to prove a
> point, I went and put some dog biscuits in her bowl this morning. She
> walked over, sniffed them, turned around and went back to laying in the
> morning sun.

<snort>

i'm no expert, but i've *never* seen a dog refuse a dog biscuit unless it
was very ill.

blake

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:11:41 -0500, Swertz wrote:

> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>>
>> I ran a test awhile back with my pooch. I got a piece of raw rump steak
>> (it was her birthday treat), and another piece that I cooked medium rare
>> on the BBQ.
>>
>> Put them on two seperate plates and placed them about 6' apart on the
>> deck. She had been sitting patiently, and when I gave her the command,
>> she went over to the raw plate sniffed it, went over to the cooked
>> plate, sniffed it, went back to the raw, sniffed again and then went
>> back to the cooked and wolfed it down and licked the plate clean. *Then*
>> she went to the raw meat and ate that as well.
>>
>> She, like most humans, enjoys something with *flavour*.
>
> And this proves, what? That dogs only need to be fed every three
> days?
>
> What a moron.
>
> -sw

it proves lucas likes to experiment on his dog.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:14:22 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >,
> Sqwerz > wrote:
>
>> Any other dog owners want to take a stab at explaining why somebody
>> would only feed their dog every three days?
>
> Nope. If the dog is trim but not skinny, they're fed enough. If the dog
> is fat, they're fed too much. This is regardless of the amount of
> exercise the dog gets.
> If the cat is fat, they're fed too much. If the cat is skinny, they're
> not fed enough and the cat can't get enough on its own efforts.
> People can control what their pet eats and have healthy pets just by
> looking at them and feeding them more or less. The animal won't
> complain. What they look like will show it all. All we have to do is
> look.
>
> leo

i think there is a question about whether the *dog* feels better getting
two days' worth of rations every other day rather than a proper ration once
a day.

your pal,
blake

PeterLucas wrote:

> We came back, took her to the Vet for her yearly shots, and found that
> she weighed 135kgs. I asked my mate (who looked after her while we
> were gone) and he said he felt guilty only feeding her every other
> day, so fed her once a day. She gained 3kgs...... which for her size,
> and the fact that she has already blown her left cruciate ligament as
> a young dog, is too much.
>
> The heaviest she has ever been is 136kgs, and that was when I was
> feeding her once a day. I was given a 'rap on the knuckles' by the vet
> for overfeeding her.

Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)? That's
almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Becca >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>> However, it is doubtful said pet owner would be admitted. One has to
>>> be exceptionally bright to gain admittance. At least here in the US.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>> It is so difficult to get admitted into vet school in Texas, that some
>> of the students go to school in other states. My former dentist was
>> denied admission into vet school, so he became a dentist. I would not
>> tell that story to just anybody. It makes you lose confidence in your
>> dentist.
>>
>
> I wanted to go to vet school right after high school graduation. I did
> all the research. There were only a handful of schools at the time and
> competition was very fierce. People with undergrad gpas with a 4.0 were
> still on waiting lists a couple of years until they got admitted. At the
> time I was too impatient to get on with my life and decided against vet
> school. There are more schools now but it is still tough to get into
> them.
>
> Michael

Some of these schools have too many applicants. They also get more money
from out of state and out-of-country students. My oldest son could not
get into UT and he had a 4.0. He was admitted to A&M, but he kept
applying to UT. lol He never wanted to give up. If I were to ask him
now, he would probably say it did not matter much.

Becca

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> all the research. There were only a handful of schools at the time and
> competition was very fierce. People with undergrad gpas with a 4.0 were
> still on waiting lists a couple of years until they got admitted. At the
> time I was too impatient to get on with my life and decided against vet
> school. There are more schools now but it is still tough to get into
> them.
>
> Michael

BTW, that is a shame. You would have made an excellent vet.

Becca

"PeterLucas" wrote

>>>> Now dear, I can go for the former but never Zed! Thats my cousin!
>>>> Jedidiah Zebulon Corbet actually.
>>
>>> Holy bloody badoolahs!!
>>> Some parents really hate their kids, don't they?
>>
>> Now now, there is Nothing wrong with "Corbett' and it's not like they
>> had any choice!

> Corbett is OK.

> What drugs were they on when they thought of Jedidiah Zebulon???

Heheh common names back there in them hills...

> No offence to your in-laws, but JZ sounds like the perfect name for a cult
> leader that lives up in the mountains.

Nicker, not cult but they do live in the hills for sure!

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:TY8Ek.56486
:

> PeterLucas wrote:
>
>> We came back, took her to the Vet for her yearly shots, and found
that
>> she weighed 135kgs. I asked my mate (who looked after her while we
>> were gone) and he said he felt guilty only feeding her every other
>> day, so fed her once a day. She gained 3kgs...... which for her size,
>> and the fact that she has already blown her left cruciate ligament as
>> a young dog, is too much.
>>
>> The heaviest she has ever been is 136kgs, and that was when I was
>> feeding her once a day. I was given a 'rap on the knuckles' by the
vet
>> for overfeeding her.
>
> Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)? That's
> almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...


LOL!!

If she was that big *I'd* be scared of her!!


Damn!! I make the occasional typo........ that's what you get for being
a 2 finger typist, I s'pose :-)

Drop the 1.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

On Mon 29 Sep 2008 11:20:44a, ChattyCathy told us...

> Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)? That's
> almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...

That would be the hound from hell!

--
Wayne Boatwright

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"cshenk" > wrote in
:

> "PeterLucas" wrote
>> "cshenk" wrote
>
>>>> If she has a whole pile of 'gourmet goodies'... as she did the
>>>> other day, then I leave it for an extra day.
>>>
>>> Thats sorta what I thought you meant.
>
>> Now if all the other twonks could just 'get it' as well!!
>
> If they want to fight, they will. If they want to learn, they will
> stop and read or ask a question.


Seems most who are responding, don't want to learn.



>
>>>I have a slight advantage.
>>> I've a few long term OZ friends, and I've been there some 8-9 times
>>> (only the North eastern part sadly, but hey, Darwin is neat!).
>
>> 'North eastern'..... Cairns, Townsville??
>
> Brisbane, Townsville, Darwin. I've not had the luck to see anything
> else and only Darwin a grunch of times. I can give you walking
> directions from the piers to Kitty O'Sheas though!


Where abouts in Brisbane did you stay?



>>
>> First trip I did to California, I walked into the bar at the Perris
>> Valley drop zone, and asked for "two jugs of Millers off the wall."
>
> ???? Got me there too!
>
>> Being a noisy place, the rather busty, tatooed, barmaid only heard "2
>> jugs" and was going to jump the bar and take a swing at me!!
>
> Snicker!
>
> Umm, that would be 2 bottles i guess you meant? Had not heard the
> 'off the wall' part before but pretty sure jugs were bottles.


Nope. Two 'jugs" off the wall converts to 2 *pitchers* of tap........
and the taps used to be on the wall.

I always thought a pitcher was something you took with a camera ;-)



>
>> You obviously didn't get to some of the Brisbane steak houses!!
>
> Only 1! Name escapes me now but it was upstairs with a bar below, on
> a corner and a brick building. It's pretty much a straight walk from
> the city central building (with all the neat statues and such) unless
> I've mixed Townsville and Brisbane in my mind.


I think you have.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
5.247:

> On Mon 29 Sep 2008 11:20:44a, ChattyCathy told us...
>
>> Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)? That's
>> almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...
>
> That would be the hound from hell!
>


LOL!!

A little typo turns her from a little beauty into a HFH :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
> >
> > ********!!
> >
> > As was explained to me by the vet that has been looking after her since
> > she was 8 weeks old, I was feeding her once a day, and she was being
> > overfed (2 x chicken frames). Dogs are masters at changing their
> > metabolism to suit their 'scenario'. If they aren't getting food on
> > demand, they shift their metabolism to suit, and slow down. My poochs'
> > ideal body weight is 32kgs. For the past 4 years she has maintained that
> > weight.
> >
> > Dogs can go for a month with no food........ as long as they have water
> > they are fine.
> >
>
> humans can go without food for a pretty long time as long as they have
> water, too. doesn't mean they enjoy it, or that it is harmless.
>


PeterBreathMucus was born too soon, Hitler coulda used 'im as Commissary
Commissar in some concentration camp...he'd design a feeding schedule for
inmates just like he does for his pet dogs, lol...


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

cshenk wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote
> > cshenk wrote:
>
>> Look, I won't drag this on forever - but if on the slim chance you wish to
>> know more about the true nature of peter lucas, I can suggest doing a
>> search for his posts, particularly in alt.ozdebate up until say 2007
>
> Naw, I'm not the sort to go hunting folks up. I take'em at 'face value' in
> a conference.

That's fine then

>>> To keep it a bit topical, I make many of my pets foods (I call it treats
>>> but it's a full meal). I am almost out of stock just now so need to make
>>> more. I make it salt free then spice and salt it for our use later. No
>>> onions (I forget if it's cats or dogs that dont take to onions but the
>>> same stock goes to both so...).
>> My cat simply *adores* garlic, onion less so. She'll even eat my
>> cauliflower bake because of the garlic flavour. OTOH, she is still quite
>> picky about what she will eat, like many cats. Unfortunately she tends not
>> to like the fresh bunnies or fish or red meat we have most weeks, unless
>> it is cooked with the usual condiments. Spoilt, I guess
>
> Not sure on Garlic, but just because it's the same family of critter as the
> onion, doesnt mean a little might not be ok!

Yeah, true. I should double-check what the toxic dosage is, but over all
I doubt she is getting too much garlic, she doesn't get it too
frequently or in high amounts.
Hmm... I have just read this:
http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/garlic.php the wording of which is
enough for me to put her garlic eating days on moratorium for the time
being! I don't know if the side effects are being over-dramatised, but
I'm going to err in favour of caution.



> Cash loves hickory smoked meats.

As would most critters, human or not <G>

PeterLucas wrote:
> "cshenk" > wrote in :
>>> Naw, I'm not the sort to go hunting folks up.
>>> I take'em at 'face value' in a conference.
>
>> "Jeßus" wrote
>
> Ummmmm, cshenk.......... you're being 'sucked in' by a cyber stalker.
>
>
> Beware.
>
>
> But, if you want to continue your dialog with it, no problems. I'll just
> killfile you too.

Given enough time peter, you will invariably alienate yourself from
every new group of people you try to associate with.

Evidently you have no idea how insulting that response would be to
cshenk. What you are saying is so juvenile, I almost feel sorry for you.
Almost.

cshenk wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote
>> cshenk wrote:

<snip>

>>> Most dogs his size, would be overfed badly at that ratio when you add in
>>> his regular morning and evening feedings, but he burns this off
>>> perfectly. In fact, this is tapered down now that he is at right weight.
>>> When we first got him it was 1 cup dry at morning and evening, plus 1/2
>>> can wet in evening (and the 'treats'). It took him 5 months to gain
>>> appropriate vet approved weight.
>> If a dog is overweight, then surely *real* issue is *what* they eat,
>> rather than merely the quantity or frequency of food? I certainly worked
>> (and still works) that way for me
>> For example, I avoid most grains (unless sprouted) along with other high
>> carbohydrate foods. I still eat them, albeit infrequently, which got be
>> back to my 'correct' weight. By doing this I also discovered inadvertently
>> that wheat and a lot other grains make me feel letharic.
>> If they're sprouted first - no problem.
>
> Sometimes yes. I know when there are some sorts of dog food, to feed less
> if it's a really high fat/meat sort. I tend to the upper market eukanaba
> and such foods for him.


I'm less concerned about fat (as long as it is good quality fat) and
more focussed on over all carbohydrate intake myself. I think we and
most domesticated animal get wayyyyy too much. But that's a whole
different topic with plenty of debate out there.

>> Anyway, getting off the track here...
>>
>>> (Before any freak out, Cash was a rescue pup with heartworms. Badly
>>> underweight and you could see his spine and count all ribs up to his
>>> shoulders when standing, which is highly abnormal for his body shape
>>> which is basically a larger sized very muscular beagle-look. Believed to
>>> be part beagle, and part bull mastiff per vet's measurements).
>> What a mixture
>> I'm sure with your care he will be in great shape soon (if not already).
>
> He is! After being turned down 4 times to be neutered (health reasons) we
> were finally able to have that done.

I'm sure Cash is really happy about being neutered too

> Honestly, I'd rather not have as I
> miss them happy dangles, but it was for his health as he's not up to mating
> and the scent of the lady doggies was driving him nuts.

And will keep him away from potential scraps with other male dogs.

My Kelpie (Dusty) is a female, she is still intact - I wouldn't mind
letting her have a litter /if/ I can find a suitable male Kelpie. If
not, then I'm afraid it's off to the vets for her. At present she is
only approx. 4 months old and the property is pretty secure, so I'm not
too worried about any unplanned 'surprises' as yet.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Kathleen > news:PbZDk.585$595.501
> @newsfe01.iad: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>> Take the time to read what has been posted in this thread.........
> then
>>> take your foot out of your mouth and go sit in the corner and shut up.
>> Make me. All I need to read is what you posted. Man up and take
>> responsibility for your own words.
>>
>>> And don't listen to the hysterical rantings of 3dogs.
>> I've had my own disagreements with Michael. But, although I hate to
>> admit it, he and I are on the same page with regards to your treatment
>> of canine family members.
>>
>>> It's all miffed because I won't talk to it.
>> I don't give a wet slap who you will or won't talk to. My issue is not
>> with "3 dogs", it's with *you* and your treatment of your dog.
>
> *sigh* It's useless Kathleen. Lucas is a lost cause. Don't even try to
> reason with him. Apparently he has a thing for me though by his
> mentioning me on a routine basis. Several others too. I never see his
> posts unless someone, I regularly read, responds to him. I'm not miffed
> because he won't talk to me.

I concur.

He'll hang out on this group until he's alienated the majority
- then go looking for a new group to try to start over in. He'll likely
return, albeit with his other 'psycho' style personality.
Been that way for at least six years that I know of.

> I would just as soon never see him.

I'm way past that stage. I actually find it amusing to sit back and
watch him sabotage himself now. On the plus side, most posters here are
overseas to lucas, so at least most won't receive his usual threats

cybercat wrote:
> "Kathleen" > wrote
>> I don't give a wet slap who you will or won't talk to. My issue is not
>> with "3 dogs", it's with *you* and your treatment of your dog.
>>
> Most of the time his comments are designed to get any kind of
> attention at all, not to be true.

You have him nailed.

> Though I would say he's almost certainly just the kind of "man" who
> would really get off on all the "power" he has over helpless creatures.

Which, incidentally, also includes frailer/weaker humans.
The man has some genuinely bad wiring in his head - in all seriousness.

On Sep 29, 12:29*pm, Kathleen > wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > *sigh* It's useless Kathleen. *Lucas is a lost cause. *Don't even try to
> > reason with him. *Apparently he has a thing for me though by his
> > mentioning me on a routine basis. *Several others too. * I never see his
> > posts unless someone, I regularly read, responds to him. *I'm not miffed
> > because he won't talk to me. *I would just as soon never see him.
>
> You're right of course. *Maltreatment of dogs is a major hot button
> issue for me, but since he appears to be completely ineducable I need to
> just go ahead and filter him.

Peter seems to be really good at touching up photos if that dog is
mistreated.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada.

On Sep 28, 4:46*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> John Kane > wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 9:50*pm, Swertz > wrote:
> >> PeterLucas > wrote:
> >>> Leftover pasta, pate, boerwors, corned beef, couscous, veges, a couple of
> >>> eggs, the rind of a hunk of Grana Padana, some brie, a hunk of chicken
> >>> breast, baked beans with chorizo......... and I toppped it all off with a
> >>> can of her favourite 'junk food'....... Snappy Tom Whole Fish.
>
> >> That's sad. *If I was only fed once every 3 days I'd eat that shit.
> >> And here you are convincing yourself she actualy likes this crap,
> >> but the truth is she's just starving.
>
> > Dog's dinner, dog's breakfast. *We fed all our dogs like that with no
> > problem . *Dog food is a very modern invention. *And having seen my
> > sister's dog eating corn-on the-cob ( a real treat for herI don't feel
> > at all sorry for Peter's dog. *It looked like a good meal to me. *Of
> > course I've not had dinner yet.
>
> How *often* do you feed your dogs? *Every three days?

I don't have a dog at the moment years ago it was once a day. This may
well have been because we wanted to get rid of kitchen scraps in the
morning as much as for any other reason.
>
> Dogs are pretty stupid. *They eat anything as fast as they can
> without tasting it. *Which is probably good in the case of Peter's
> poor dog.

I'm sure a lot of dogs would just about kill for that meal.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Sep 28, 8:11*pm, "cshenk" > wrote:


> Could well be Peter is only using the term 'feeding' for when he adds a cup
> or 2 of dry dog food and the rest of the time, the dog gets other things in
> fairly substantial quantity but calls that a 'treat'. *Just a minor language
> difference there, kinda like Canada folks spell Color wierd (grin).

We don't spell it "weird" we spell it in the normal way "colour". " It
was weirded a bright red" looks strange to me.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

"PeterLucas" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote in

>> If they want to fight, they will. If they want to learn, they will
>> stop and read or ask a question.

> Seems most who are responding, don't want to learn.

Many people who live overseas from where'ever is 'home' to them do so in
little communities 'like home' and barely venture out. I'm not one of them.

>>>>I have a slight advantage.
>>>> I've a few long term OZ friends, and I've been there some 8-9 times
>>>> (only the North eastern part sadly, but hey, Darwin is neat!).
>>
>>> 'North eastern'..... Cairns, Townsville??
>>
>> Brisbane, Townsville, Darwin. I've not had the luck to see anything
>> else and only Darwin a grunch of times. I can give you walking
>> directions from the piers to Kitty O'Sheas though!

> Where abouts in Brisbane did you stay?

Scratching head, a hotel of some sort. One of the 2 cities had a brick
downtown and the steak place as well as a big walking garden. The other,
well, didnt have either but I holed up in a nice hotel with good food and
didnt move about much in that one (case of the summer flu, just sat back
with a good book).

>>> Valley drop zone, and asked for "two jugs of Millers off the wall."
>>
>> ???? Got me there too!
>>
>>> Being a noisy place, the rather busty, tatooed, barmaid only heard "2
>>> jugs" and was going to jump the bar and take a swing at me!!
>>
>> Snicker!
>>
>> Umm, that would be 2 bottles i guess you meant? Had not heard the
>> 'off the wall' part before but pretty sure jugs were bottles.

> Nope. Two 'jugs" off the wall converts to 2 *pitchers* of tap........
> and the taps used to be on the wall.

Ah! Makes sense when you say it that way.

> I always thought a pitcher was something you took with a camera ;-)

>>> You obviously didn't get to some of the Brisbane steak houses!!
>>
>> Only 1! Name escapes me now but it was upstairs with a bar below, on
>> a corner and a brick building. It's pretty much a straight walk from
>> the city central building (with all the neat statues and such) unless
>> I've mixed Townsville and Brisbane in my mind.

> I think you have.

Wouldnt suprise me at all!

Darwin's the only oine I've been to enough to really describe.

"Jeßus" wrote

>>>> To keep it a bit topical, I make many of my pets foods (I call it
>>>> treats but it's a full meal). I am almost out of stock just now so
>>>> need to make

>> Not sure on Garlic, but just because it's the same family of critter as
>> the onion, doesnt mean a little might not be ok!
>
> Yeah, true. I should double-check what the toxic dosage is, but over all I
> doubt she is getting too much garlic, she doesn't get it too frequently or
> in high amounts.
> Hmm... I have just read this:
> http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/garlic.php the wording of which is
> enough for me to put her garlic eating days on moratorium for the time
> being! I don't know if the side effects are being over-dramatised, but I'm
> going to err in favour of caution.

Usually wise! Also, if you check you'll find pets are generally less salt
tolerant than we are. A little is fine in a few things, but best to go
low-sodium for them overall.

>> Cash loves hickory smoked meats.
>
> As would most critters, human or not <G>

For sure! He's knarfing a bone just now. We stuck it in the smoker to add
more flavor and he's all happy over it.

"Jeßus" wrote
> PeterLucas wrote:

> Given enough time peter, you will invariably alienate yourself from every
> new group of people you try to associate with.
>
> Evidently you have no idea how insulting that response would be to cshenk.

Naw, I talk to who I want and while i might have landed in a few killfiles,
it's a pretty rare occurance. In case you hadnt noticed, I'm not all that
prone to the herd mentality ;-)

The only person who gets me hot-n-bothered is my husband and his is in a
good way!

"Jeßus" wrote
> cshenk wrote:

> I'm less concerned about fat (as long as it is good quality fat) and more
> focussed on over all carbohydrate intake myself. I think we and most
> domesticated animal get wayyyyy too much. But that's a whole different
> topic with plenty of debate out there.

Sure and I think you have the right of it. Most of Cash's carbs come from
rice (which isnt all that great for him) as he loved buttered rice in his
lunch 'treat'.

>>>> be part beagle, and part bull mastiff per vet's measurements).
>>> What a mixture

The pics Peter posted are real close in body shape to Cash. Just shorter
legs, bigger head (and longer snout) and a bit more burly about the neck and
chest. Long floppy beagle ears ;-)

>> He is! After being turned down 4 times to be neutered (health reasons)
>> we were finally able to have that done.
>
> I'm sure Cash is really happy about being neutered too

snicker, sorry. I'd not have done it as we liked the jaunty look from
behind, but his heart problems actually made it needed.

>> and the scent of the lady doggies was driving him nuts.
>
> And will keep him away from potential scraps with other male dogs.

True, but here inside a big city, leash laws prevail. He's not let out to
wander.

> My Kelpie (Dusty) is a female, she is still intact - I wouldn't mind
> letting her have a litter /if/ I can find a suitable male Kelpie. If not,
> then I'm afraid it's off to the vets for her. At present she is only
> approx. 4 months old and the property is pretty secure, so I'm not too
> worried about any unplanned 'surprises' as yet.

Give it 2 more months I think?

I'm no breeder but I gathered that it's best if going to let them have pups,
to wait out the first season and go for the second one.

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

> The message >
> from PeterLucas > contains these words:
>
>> Why??
>
>> Why feed her the same amount of food that she gets on a regular
>> basis, but feed it to her in smaller quantities, more frequently?
>
> Because it's less strain on her metabolism, kidneys, liver,
> pancreas, etc
>
> Janet
>



What a crock!!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

> The message >
> from ChattyCathy > contains these words:
>
>> PeterLucas wrote:
>
>> > We came back, took her to the Vet for her yearly shots, and found
that
>> > she weighed 135kgs. I asked my mate (who looked after her while we
>> > were gone) and he said he felt guilty only feeding her every other
>> > day, so fed her once a day. She gained 3kgs...... which for her
size,
>> > and the fact that she has already blown her left cruciate ligament
as
>> > a young dog, is too much.
>> >
>> > The heaviest she has ever been is 136kgs, and that was when I was
>> > feeding her once a day. I was given a 'rap on the knuckles' by the
vet
>> > for overfeeding her.
>
>> Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)?
That's
>> almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...
>
> He's a total fantasist.
>



Quite apart from being a total twonk, like you.


It has already been explained that it was a typo, but do you choose to
acknowledge that?? Of course you don't.

Now....... don't go away angry, just go away.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

John Kane > wrote in news:5deaba7f-a47e-4130-8d98-
:

> On Sep 29, 12:29*pm, Kathleen > wrote:
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> > *sigh* It's useless Kathleen. *Lucas is a lost cause. *Don't even t
> ry to
>> > reason with him. *Apparently he has a thing for me though by his
>> > mentioning me on a routine basis. *Several others too. * I never se
> e his
>> > posts unless someone, I regularly read, responds to him. *I'm not mif
> fed
>> > because he won't talk to me. *I would just as soon never see him.
>>
>> You're right of course. *Maltreatment of dogs is a major hot button
>> issue for me, but since he appears to be completely ineducable I need to
>> just go ahead and filter him.
>
> Peter seems to be really good at touching up photos if that dog is
> mistreated.
>


Seems "Kathleen" and 3dogs are of the same ilk. Whiney, hysterical, little
girls. Talk about 'ineducable'!!


My pooch has had her own Health Insurance from the time she was about 10
weeks old (she's 8 & 1/2yo now). She has also had her vaccinations every
year, without fail. Every month she has a heartworm tablet, and is
regularly treated for fleas and ticks.

When she did her cruciate ligament, the "specialist" I took her to
suggested that she be put down. So he got a mouthful and the flick and I
took her to a Vet Professor, who operated on her and fixed it up.


But according to those two whiney bitches above, I mistreat my dog because
I don't conform to their own idiotic ideas of how often a dog "needs" to be
fed!!




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

On Sep 30, 3:16*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:31:13 +0000 (UTC),PeterLucaswrote:
>
> > She is now a happy, contented dog, who is at her ideal weight, which
> > will see her in good stead in a few years time when the old cruciate
> > injury starts to play up. She is *not* constantly hungry, and to prove a
> > point, I went and put some dog biscuits in her bowl this morning. She
> > walked over, sniffed them, turned around and went back to laying in the
> > morning sun.
>
> <snort>
>
> i'm no expert, but i've *never* seen a dog refuse a dog biscuit unless it
> was very ill.
>
> blake

Tell Mr lucas not to miss his plane to KL. Also make sure he sits at
the front as that's the most dangerous place if it should crash.

PeterLucas wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote in news:TY8Ek.56486
> :

>>
>> Your dog weighs 135kgs (one hundred and thirty-five kilograms)?
>> That's almost three hundred pounds! Good grief, that's a Big Dawg...
>
>
> LOL!!
>
> If she was that big *I'd* be scared of her!!
>
>
> Damn!! I make the occasional typo........ that's what you get for
> being a 2 finger typist, I s'pose :-)
>
> Drop the 1.

Ah. More like it.

We had a Rottweiler named Max years ago that weighed around 40kgs once
he was fully grown (and no, he wasn't overweight) - it was all neck and
muscle. He used to rush up to me to 'say hello' when I got home from
work and he could literally knock me right off my feet in his
enthusiasm if I wasn't quick enough to jump out of his way.

He always looked so fierce to strangers though - he would run up to our
boundary wall barking loudly and looking 'mean' every time anyone
walked by. The postman even stopped putting the mail into our post box
at the gate once Max got to 'full size' - he used to fling it over the
wall instead, so I'd come home to find half chewed envelopes strewn all
over the drive way (damn dog)... Little did the postman know that Max
was a good actor; Max would have licked him to death before he'd bite
(anyone) <lol>
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:13:40 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "Kathleen" > wrote
>>
>> I don't give a wet slap who you will or won't talk to. My issue is not
>> with "3 dogs", it's with *you* and your treatment of your dog.
>>
>
> What more can you expect from this blowhard, needledick sob? Most of the
> time his comments are designed to get any kind of attention at all, not to
> be true. Though I would say he's almost certainly just the kind of "man" who
> would really get off on all the "power" he has over helpless creatures.

bingo.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:13:40 -0400, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Kathleen" > wrote
>>> I don't give a wet slap who you will or won't talk to. My issue is not
>>> with "3 dogs", it's with *you* and your treatment of your dog.
>>>
>> What more can you expect from this blowhard, needledick sob? Most of the
>> time his comments are designed to get any kind of attention at all, not to
>> be true. Though I would say he's almost certainly just the kind of "man" who
>> would really get off on all the "power" he has over helpless creatures.
>
> bingo.

Understatement.

That last sentence is *right on the money*.

Although not exactly "helpless", one nice lady (of retirement age or
close to it) lives near lucas's home town.
She has been receiving threats from lucas for years via Usenet
(alt.ozdebate)- Presumably all archived on google groups.

Not to mention several other people (myself included).

Thats the kind of guy peter lucas is...

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Jeßus > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> I'm way past that stage. I actually find it amusing to sit back and
>> watch him sabotage himself now. On the plus side, most posters here
>> are overseas to lucas, so at least most won't receive his usual
>> threats
>
> Threats? That's interesting. When I used to read his posts he was always
> accusing others of being stalkers.

LOL, yeah... he'll do that alright

He accuses me of stalking all of the time, and yet it is HE who has at
times followed me to newsgroups I post regularly to.

I haven't been to this group for years, and admittedly it *was* a
crosspost from this group (involving lucas) that caused me to return
here - but I've stayed because of many interesting threads.

> Has he threatened anyone in Oz?

LOL!!! You could say yes to that!

Just from the newsgroup alt.ozdebate, and right off of the top of my
head, I can think of at least six people, myself included.
That doesn't even cover other newsgroups...

I can see on this group that he's trying to be on his best behaviour -
However the usual eventual outcome of that will see him turn highly
aggressive/abusive on this group as well once he has decided that enough
regulars here are 'against' him.


> had experiences with the likes of Jason Pope from the UK and of course
> everyone is familiar with the "Loafhead" style of threats and stalking.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Jeßus > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> I'm way past that stage. I actually find it amusing to sit back and
>> watch him sabotage himself now. On the plus side, most posters here
>> are overseas to lucas, so at least most won't receive his usual
>> threats
>
> Threats? That's interesting. When I used to read his posts he was always
> accusing others of being stalkers. Has he threatened anyone in Oz? I've
> had experiences with the likes of Jason Pope from the UK and of course
> everyone is familiar with the "Loafhead" style of threats and stalking.

You seem interested, so here are some of his nyms:
SkySkum
Peter Lucas
Lucas, Peter
Peter L

Just so you know who is who

here is a random search result:
http://ashorterlink.com/3974