Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:06:24 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >And "food to hoard"? Ya gotta be *kidding*, food in the US is cheaper
and
> >more available than at *any* time anywheres in history.
>
> The problem is there is to MUCH food. Which is why the US government
> subsidizes almost a buck per bushel of corn. Then the stuff rots or
> is made into something else that we really don't need but the big food
> giants can get rich on.
>
> >Otherwise what
> >accounts for the huge amount of obesity in this country, *especially*
among
> >the poor...a time traveler from a century ago - or even from 1940 - would
be
> >pretty amazed to be set down in a ghetto or barrio or rural trailer park
and
> >told that those people are "poor".
>
> I'm about halfway through reading "BUILDING HOUSES OUT OF CHICKEN LEGS
> Black Women, Food, and Power." The black ladies in the book would
> be amazed that people get money for food without doing anything for
> it.


They surely had "moxie" - and they also didn't have much in the way of
choices...they had to depend on themselves.


The article that Dog 3 seemed to be leaning in the direction
> that the people weren't getting enough. If I were to need food stamps
> I'd be glad for anything I could get rather than bitching I wasn't
> getting enough.


Same here...


> So far this is a great book:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/bo....html?emc=eta1
>


The Salt Lake City resto mentioned - the Coon Chicken Inn - was featured in
the alternate history "mockumentary" _The Confederate States of America_
that ocassionally plays on cable...


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"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:06:24 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>And "food to hoard"? Ya gotta be *kidding*, food in the US is cheaper and
>>more available than at *any* time anywheres in history.
>
> The problem is there is to MUCH food. Which is why the US government
> subsidizes almost a buck per bushel of corn. Then the stuff rots or
> is made into something else that we really don't need but the big food
> giants can get rich on.
>
>>Otherwise what
>>accounts for the huge amount of obesity in this country, *especially*
>>among
>>the poor...a time traveler from a century ago - or even from 1940 - would
>>be
>>pretty amazed to be set down in a ghetto or barrio or rural trailer park
>>and
>>told that those people are "poor".
>
> I'm about halfway through reading "BUILDING HOUSES OUT OF CHICKEN LEGS
> Black Women, Food, and Power." The black ladies in the book would
> be amazed that people get money for food without doing anything for
> it. The article that Dog 3 seemed to be leaning in the direction
> that the people weren't getting enough. If I were to need food stamps
> I'd be glad for anything I could get rather than bitching I wasn't
> getting enough.
>
> So far this is a great book:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/bo....html?emc=eta1

That's what annoys me about the welfare state: wholesale encouragement
of fecklessness.


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In article >,
"Gill Smith" > wrote:


> That's what annoys me about the welfare state: wholesale encouragement
> of fecklessness.

Welfare is a safety net. It is not designed to encourage people to be
deadbeats. A lot of people have spent a lot of time and energy trying
to figure out ways to make it strictly a safety net. It cannot be done,
without spending more money than it would cost just to hand it out to
everyone who meets certain qualifications. In addition, in California,
where I live, almost all "welfare" is AFDC (Aid to Families with
Dependent Children). In other words, you can only get "welfare" for the
children. Obviously, they give the money to the parent(s), since
children are not competent to manage the money. Whether it actually
gets used only for the children is impossible to determine. There is
some "welfare" for adults, like food stamps. I believe that there are
other programs designed to make adults more employable.

--
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Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Gill Smith" > wrote:
>
>
>> That's what annoys me about the welfare state: wholesale encouragement
>> of fecklessness.
>
> Welfare is a safety net. It is not designed to encourage people to be
> deadbeats. A lot of people have spent a lot of time and energy trying
> to figure out ways to make it strictly a safety net. It cannot be done,
> without spending more money than it would cost just to hand it out to
> everyone who meets certain qualifications. In addition, in California,
> where I live, almost all "welfare" is AFDC (Aid to Families with
> Dependent Children). In other words, you can only get "welfare" for the
> children. Obviously, they give the money to the parent(s), since
> children are not competent to manage the money. Whether it actually
> gets used only for the children is impossible to determine. There is
> some "welfare" for adults, like food stamps. I believe that there are
> other programs designed to make adults more employable.

In the UK you can get a nice comfy cosy lifestyle out of welfare.

If the middle classes really new whta was going down, there'd be a
revolution.



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"Gill Smith" > wrote in message
et...
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
>
>
>
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>
>
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
>

Check with a Mormon waiting for the time of Tribulation.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

>
> "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
> et...
> > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we

Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
cook.

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Dan Goodman wrote:

> Dimitri wrote:
>
> >
> > "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.


IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in Mesopotamia,
etc., they are thousands of years old. They've been found to be not only
cookable, but even sproutable. Same for yeast found in urns that held
beer/mead - like beverages, the yeast was still usuable...


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Gregory Morrow wrote:

> IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in Mesopotamia,
> etc., they are thousands of years old.

Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.


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"Dan Goodman" > wrote in message
ouse.com...
> Dimitri wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
>> et...
>> > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.

What's the booze that lasts forever?

Begins with M.

Madeira?




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In article .com>,
"Dan Goodman" > wrote:

> Dimitri wrote:
>
> >
> > "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.

This is why soaking works...

Iirc, there were some 1,200 year old beans from an Aztec tomb that some
college students were able to germinate?
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"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

About a year ago I decided I wanted a six month food supply in case of
some sort of SHTF (fertilizer hits the oscillator) crisis like we may
be looking at now or in case I find myself unemployed. Now I have
about 15 plastic milk crates in my spare bedroom filled with canned
food, rice, dry beans, flour, bottled water, powdered milk, etc. I
also purchased a deep freezer and have that filled with meat and
leftovers. For about four months I made two shopping trips a week
instead of one, which allowed me to quickly build up a food supply.
I've been looking at websites such as beprepared.com and purchasing
some freeze-dried foods to increase my food supply even further. I
have to keep track of the dates on things and rotate the stock so
nothing goes bad. Some items such as mayonnaise don't store well, and
one has to be careful about the shelf life of foods..I've found that I
sleep much better at night not worrying about what happens to me if I
lose my job or if there is some sort of economic crisis and the food
supply is disrupted.

About food storage. And foods to stock. I am disabled and sometimes can't
get around very much for not only days but weeks at a time. Being of a self
sufficient bent (and stubborn) I tend to have a great deal of food stock on
hand. I also stock water, on a rotating basis - using empty 2 liter soda
(actually seltzer) bottles which get refilled and rotated once a week (have
22 - 2 in use)

Dry beans, rice (brown), couscous, bulgur, corn grits (polenta), dried fruit
(apricots, raisins, cherries, cranberries, apples) canned veggies (lots of
tomatoes and green beans and an assortment of other items). I go light on
canned soups becuase of the salt content. Have an assortment of dry soup
mixes. Lots of tea - almost all herbal or green - shelf stable tofu - a
good assortment of herbs and spices - especially pepper - black, lemon,
garlic flavored. Pastas and noodles - but not Ramen (too salty and goes
rancid easily). Oils (canola and olive), Bottled juices. Some nuts -
cashews and walnuts. Some seeds - pumpkin and sunflower. Oatmeal, some dry
cereal and granola, farina. Soy milk. Flour and other needs for baking
bread.

Now all of this is to my personal tastes and needs. Big item - do NOT
stock/hoard items you don't regularly eat and DO rotate your stock. Unless
you are hoarding in anticipation of trading. For that - salt, pepper and
spices probably take up the least space and are the lightest.

My dream - to get a few chickens.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

On Sat 11 Oct 2008 04:14:47p, JonquilJan told us...

> About food storage. And foods to stock. I am disabled and sometimes
> can't get around very much for not only days but weeks at a time. Being
> of a self sufficient bent (and stubborn) I tend to have a great deal of
> food stock on hand. I also stock water, on a rotating basis - using
> empty 2 liter soda (actually seltzer) bottles which get refilled and
> rotated once a week (have 22 - 2 in use)
>
> Dry beans, rice (brown), couscous, bulgur, corn grits (polenta), dried
> fruit (apricots, raisins, cherries, cranberries, apples) canned veggies
> (lots of tomatoes and green beans and an assortment of other items). I
> go light on canned soups becuase of the salt content. Have an
> assortment of dry soup mixes. Lots of tea - almost all herbal or green
> - shelf stable tofu - a good assortment of herbs and spices - especially
> pepper - black, lemon, garlic flavored. Pastas and noodles - but not
> Ramen (too salty and goes rancid easily). Oils (canola and olive),
> Bottled juices. Some nuts - cashews and walnuts. Some seeds - pumpkin
> and sunflower. Oatmeal, some dry cereal and granola, farina. Soy milk.
> Flour and other needs for baking bread.
>
> Now all of this is to my personal tastes and needs. Big item - do NOT
> stock/hoard items you don't regularly eat and DO rotate your stock.
> Unless you are hoarding in anticipation of trading. For that - salt,
> pepper and spices probably take up the least space and are the lightest.
>
> My dream - to get a few chickens.
>
> JonquilJan

Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!

Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that make it
difficult to take care of some chickens?

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message
5.247...
> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 04:14:47p, JonquilJan told us...
>
> > About food storage. And foods to stock. I am disabled and sometimes
> > can't get around very much for not only days but weeks at a time. Being
> > of a self sufficient bent (and stubborn) I tend to have a great deal of
> > food stock on hand. I also stock water, on a rotating basis - using
> > empty 2 liter soda (actually seltzer) bottles which get refilled and
> > rotated once a week (have 22 - 2 in use)
> >
> > Dry beans, rice (brown), couscous, bulgur, corn grits (polenta), dried
> > fruit (apricots, raisins, cherries, cranberries, apples) canned veggies
> > (lots of tomatoes and green beans and an assortment of other items). I
> > go light on canned soups becuase of the salt content. Have an
> > assortment of dry soup mixes. Lots of tea - almost all herbal or green
> > - shelf stable tofu - a good assortment of herbs and spices - especially
> > pepper - black, lemon, garlic flavored. Pastas and noodles - but not
> > Ramen (too salty and goes rancid easily). Oils (canola and olive),
> > Bottled juices. Some nuts - cashews and walnuts. Some seeds - pumpkin
> > and sunflower. Oatmeal, some dry cereal and granola, farina. Soy milk.
> > Flour and other needs for baking bread.
> >
> > Now all of this is to my personal tastes and needs. Big item - do NOT
> > stock/hoard items you don't regularly eat and DO rotate your stock.
> > Unless you are hoarding in anticipation of trading. For that - salt,
> > pepper and spices probably take up the least space and are the lightest.
> >
> > My dream - to get a few chickens.
> >
> > JonquilJan
>
> Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!
>
> Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that make
it
> difficult to take care of some chickens?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Which is why I don't have any. My disability problems are gradually
increasing. I did manage to have a small garden (mostly for greens) this
summer - for the first time in many years. My home includes 5 acres of
mostly scrub and grass - which is enjoyed by wild turkeys, deer, rabbits,
pheasants - and I am frequently visited by raccoons, opossums and skunks. I
used to have a huge garden - and preserved and prepared a LOT of produce.

Much of my stock comes through a food buying cooperative - I used to be the
director of a local one (retired from that and no one picked up the
responsibility) but now am just a 'worker bee' in one a bit further south
(12 miles). Because of age related allergy and digestive problems - much of
my stock is organic. (I will be 70 my next birthday).

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

On Sat 11 Oct 2008 05:07:02p, JonquilJan told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message
> 5.247...
>> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 04:14:47p, JonquilJan told us...
>>
>> > About food storage. And foods to stock. I am disabled and sometimes
>> > can't get around very much for not only days but weeks at a time.
>> > Being of a self sufficient bent (and stubborn) I tend to have a great
>> > deal of food stock on hand. I also stock water, on a rotating basis
>> > - using empty 2 liter soda (actually seltzer) bottles which get
>> > refilled and rotated once a week (have 22 - 2 in use)
>> >
>> > Dry beans, rice (brown), couscous, bulgur, corn grits (polenta),
>> > dried fruit (apricots, raisins, cherries, cranberries, apples) canned
>> > veggies (lots of tomatoes and green beans and an assortment of other
>> > items). I go light on canned soups becuase of the salt content.
>> > Have an assortment of dry soup mixes. Lots of tea - almost all
>> > herbal or green - shelf stable tofu - a good assortment of herbs and
>> > spices - especially pepper - black, lemon, garlic flavored. Pastas
>> > and noodles - but not Ramen (too salty and goes rancid easily). Oils
>> > (canola and olive), Bottled juices. Some nuts - cashews and walnuts.
>> > Some seeds - pumpkin and sunflower. Oatmeal, some dry cereal and
>> > granola, farina. Soy milk.
>> > Flour and other needs for baking bread.
>> >
>> > Now all of this is to my personal tastes and needs. Big item - do
>> > NOT stock/hoard items you don't regularly eat and DO rotate your
>> > stock. Unless you are hoarding in anticipation of trading. For that
>> > - salt, pepper and spices probably take up the least space and are
>> > the lightest.
>> >
>> > My dream - to get a few chickens.
>> >
>> > JonquilJan
>>
>> Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!
>>
>> Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that
>> make
> it
>> difficult to take care of some chickens?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Which is why I don't have any. My disability problems are gradually
> increasing. I did manage to have a small garden (mostly for greens)
> this summer - for the first time in many years. My home includes 5
> acres of mostly scrub and grass - which is enjoyed by wild turkeys,
> deer, rabbits, pheasants - and I am frequently visited by raccoons,
> opossums and skunks. I used to have a huge garden - and preserved and
> prepared a LOT of produce.

Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor coronary
issues.

> Much of my stock comes through a food buying cooperative - I used to be
> the director of a local one (retired from that and no one picked up the
> responsibility) but now am just a 'worker bee' in one a bit further
> south (12 miles). Because of age related allergy and digestive problems
> - much of my stock is organic. (I will be 70 my next birthday).

I'll be 64 in January, but I've already discovered it's hell getting older,
but luckily, I have no known allergies or digestive problems - yet. :-) I
hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.

--
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>
> Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
> time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
> gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor coronary
> issues.
>

I live in northern New York state - lots of dairy farming in my area.
Winters are hard and cold and long - and summers are tolerable (I have
problems with heat). I live on what was geologically the ancient eastern
edge of Lake Ontario and the soil is a magnificent sandy loam. Wish I could
garen more.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

On Sat 11 Oct 2008 05:58:00p, JonquilJan told us...

>
>
>>
>> Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
>> time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
>> gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor
>> coronary issues.
>>
>
> I live in northern New York state - lots of dairy farming in my area.
> Winters are hard and cold and long - and summers are tolerable (I have
> problems with heat). I live on what was geologically the ancient
> eastern edge of Lake Ontario and the soil is a magnificent sandy loam.
> Wish I could garen more.
>
> JonquilJan

That's a beautiful area, climate included (for the most part). I lived
most of my life in NE Ohio and frequently was in PA and NY State.

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in the past tense.

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in
Mesopotamia,
> > etc., they are thousands of years old.
>
> Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.
>


The "life force" is an *amazing* thing...


[===>>> currently watching _Earth vs. The Flying Saucers_...]


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Greg

In article 7>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 04:14:47p, JonquilJan told us...
>
> > My dream - to get a few chickens.
> >
> > JonquilJan
>
> Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!
>
> Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that make it
> difficult to take care of some chickens?

Depending on how you keep them, (and your local predator population),
chickens can pretty much take care of themselves if you get the right
breed.
--
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"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

In article 7>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> I
> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.

Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
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"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

In article > ,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> > Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in
> Mesopotamia,
> > > etc., they are thousands of years old.
> >
> > Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.
> >
>
>
> The "life force" is an *amazing* thing...

As are seeds. :-) That little miracle is something I've always enjoyed.
That and eggs. I used to really enjoy hatching poultry when I kept them.
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"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...

> In article 7>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I
>> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
>
> Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>

Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.

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In article 0>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
>
> > In article 7>,
> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> >
> >> I
> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
> >
> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
>
> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.

Oops, sorry.
No investments or pension plans?

Granted, I do intend to do some part time teaching to supplement a
retirement income, but I don't want to work full time past 60 if I can
afford it.

Granted, a lot of that plan will depend on inflation...
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Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

On Sat 11 Oct 2008 11:16:39p, Omelet told us...

> In article 0>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
>>
>> > In article 7>,
>> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I
>> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
>> >
>> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
>> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
>>
>> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
>
> Oops, sorry.
> No investments or pension plans?

No pension plan. Significant investments went out the window after 9/11
and the dot.com meltdown. I don't make enough to put money aside for
retirement. I hope to do that when I start drawing SS at 65 and continue
drawing a full salary.

> Granted, I do intend to do some part time teaching to supplement a
> retirement income, but I don't want to work full time past 60 if I can
> afford it.
>
> Granted, a lot of that plan will depend on inflation...

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In article 0>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 11:16:39p, Omelet told us...
>
> > In article 0>,
> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
> >>
> >> > In article 7>,
> >> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I
> >> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
> >> >
> >> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> >> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
> >>
> >> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
> >
> > Oops, sorry.
> > No investments or pension plans?
>
> No pension plan. Significant investments went out the window after 9/11
> and the dot.com meltdown. I don't make enough to put money aside for
> retirement. I hope to do that when I start drawing SS at 65 and continue
> drawing a full salary.

I'm glad I went with mutual funds... :-(
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