I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.

The store has been around forever. I have never had a problem until today.

I bought 3 bags - about 2 lbs each. 3 dollars each.

Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside
one of the bags. I opened it up and tried to grab the mystery item with
the tip of a knife and I saw that it was a worm. The bag was also
cobwebby. I checked the other two bags - also infested with worms.

Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.

I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope they
understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag full of
worms BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to keep the bags
in my house either.

Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might
find the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.

Tracy
(totally icked out)

Tracy wrote:
> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>
> The store has been around forever. I have never had a problem until today.
>
> I bought 3 bags - about 2 lbs each. 3 dollars each.
>
> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside
> one of the bags. I opened it up and tried to grab the mystery item with
> the tip of a knife and I saw that it was a worm. The bag was also
> cobwebby. I checked the other two bags - also infested with worms.
>
> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>
> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope they
> understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag full of
> worms BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to keep the bags
> in my house either.
>
> Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might
> find the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.
>
> Tracy
> (totally icked out)

I once found small worms of some sort, white pupae like creatures
crawling on bags of beans at a small neighborhood market, not a 'liquor'
store, the people running it did not have the permits to sell any
alcohol. But its one place in my local area i now avoid even though i
think it has changed owners, it has to be over priced to stay in business.

I saw some obviously poor young woman there once spending 50 - 100
dollars trying to 'shop' i still regret not taking her aside and telling
her where she could get better, less expensive food a few doors away.
--
Joseph Littleshoes

On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...

> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.

Worms! UGH!!!


--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)

*******************************************
Date: Tuesday, 10(X)/07(VII)/08(MMVIII)
*******************************************
Countdown till Veteran's Day
4wks 6dys 6hrs 13mins
*******************************************
Mary had a little RAM -- only about a
MEG or so.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.250...
| On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
|
| > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
| > semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
|
| Worms! UGH!!!

Put it all into a microwave and zap them for a couple of
minutes. They die and become harmless Sheldons.

pavane

Tracy wrote:
> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>
> The store has been around forever. I have never had a problem until today.
>
> I bought 3 bags - about 2 lbs each. 3 dollars each.
>
> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside
> one of the bags. I opened it up and tried to grab the mystery item with
> the tip of a knife and I saw that it was a worm. The bag was also
> cobwebby. I checked the other two bags - also infested with worms.
>
> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>
> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope they
> understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag full of
> worms BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to keep the bags
> in my house either.
>
> Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might
> find the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.
>
> Tracy
> (totally icked out)

Ick! Watertown, was it?

--
Jean B.

Joseph LittleLush wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
> > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse semolina
> > Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside and I saw that it was a worm. >
> > Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
> > I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back.
> > Tracy
> > (totally icked out)

Shoulda brought them back, you tossed away your proof... but since
you're not going to shop there anymore...


> I once found small worms of some sort, white pupae like creatures
> crawling on bags of beans at a small neighborhood market, not a 'liquor'
> store, the people running it did not have the permits to sell any
> alcohol. � But its one place in my local area i now avoid even though i
> think it has changed owners, it has to be over priced to stay in business..


WTF does whether it's a liquor store have any bearing?!?!? Are you
drunk, I bet you are, Little Lush!

On Oct 7, 8:57�pm, "pavane" > wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>
> 5.250...
> | On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
> |
> | > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
> | > semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
> |
> | Worms! �UGH!!!
>
> Put it all into a microwave and zap them for a couple of
> minutes. �They die and become harmless Sheldons.

I hope you die, but first watch your loved ones die, slow and
painfully.

Jean B. wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>
>> The store has been around forever. I have never had a problem until
>> today.
>>
>> I bought 3 bags - about 2 lbs each. 3 dollars each.
>>
>> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot
>> inside one of the bags. I opened it up and tried to grab the mystery
>> item with the tip of a knife and I saw that it was a worm. The bag was
>> also cobwebby. I checked the other two bags - also infested with worms.
>>
>> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>>
>> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope
>> they understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag full
>> of worms BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to keep the
>> bags in my house either.
>>
>> Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might
>> find the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.
>>
>> Tracy
>> (totally icked out)
>
> Ick! Watertown, was it?
>
Yup. Sevan.
I am bummed.
Tracy

Sheldon wrote:

>> Tracy wrote:
>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse semolina
>>> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside and I saw that it was a worm. >
>>> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>>> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back.
>>> Tracy
>>> (totally icked out)
>
> Shoulda brought them back, you tossed away your proof... but since
> you're not going to shop there anymore...


Well, I just couldn't stand knowing they were in my kitchen. The store
is reputable. If they don't believe me then they've lost a customer.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>
>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>
> Worms! UGH!!!
>
>
I know! I am not sure if I am going to be able to sleep. I am so grossed
out.

Tracy

"Tracy" > wrote in message

>
> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope they
> understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag full of worms
> BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to keep the bags in my
> house either.
>
> Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might find
> the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.
>
> Tracy
> (totally icked out)

So put them in a plastic bag and take them back. Chances are, if they have
more on the shelf of the same age they are infected too. Bugs are common in
grains.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
> On Oct 7, 8:57�pm, "pavane" > wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>
>> 5.250...
>> | On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>> |
>> | > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>> | > semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>> |
>> | Worms! �UGH!!!
>>
>> Put it all into a microwave and zap them for a couple of
>> minutes. �They die and become harmless Sheldons.
>
> I hope you die, but first watch your loved ones die, slow and
> painfully.
>
>

And in that statement, the true Sheldon is revealed.

Sheldon, I hope you live long and prosper. I also hope you get out of the
closet one of these days just long enough to get that ****ing cat off the
counter.


TFM®

Sheldon wrote:
> Joseph wrote:
>> I once found small worms of some sort, white pupae like creatures
>> crawling on bags of beans at a small neighborhood market, not a
>> 'liquor' store, the people running it did not have the permits
>
>
> WTF does whether it's a liquor store have any bearing?!?!?


I kind of wondered that myself. I've never seen a liquor store that sells
bags of beans. I've seen grocery stores in a few states that sell liquor
but never been anywhere near the beans

Jill

Tracy wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Tracy wrote:
>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>>> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>>
>>> The store has been around forever. I have never had a problem until
>>> today.
>>>
>>> I bought 3 bags - about 2 lbs each. 3 dollars each.
>>>
>>> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot
>>> inside one of the bags. I opened it up and tried to grab the mystery
>>> item with the tip of a knife and I saw that it was a worm. The bag
>>> was also cobwebby. I checked the other two bags - also infested with
>>> worms.
>>>
>>> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>>>
>>> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back. I hope
>>> they understand that I just didn't feel good about bringing a bag
>>> full of worms BACK into their store. Plus, I didn't really want to
>>> keep the bags in my house either.
>>>
>>> Luckily, there are two other markets on the same street where I might
>>> find the semolina. I will be more careful choosing next time.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>> (totally icked out)
>>
>> Ick! Watertown, was it?
>>
> Yup. Sevan.
> I am bummed.
> Tracy

I figgered it must be that area, if so many stores of that ilk. I
wonder what they will say? Their response might color MY desire
to shop there in the future.

--
Jean B.

"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>>
>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>>> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>
>> Worms! UGH!!!
>>
>>
> I know! I am not sure if I am going to be able to sleep. I am so grossed
> out.

Best not to die either....



>>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<


http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


>>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<

On Oct 7, 8:20*pm, Tracy > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> >> Tracy wrote:
> >>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to *pick up coarse semolina
> >>> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside and I saw that it was a worm. >
> >>> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
> >>> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back.
> >>> Tracy
> >>> (totally icked out)
>
> > Shoulda brought them back, you tossed away your proof... but since
> > you're not going to shop there anymore...
>
> Well, I just couldn't stand knowing they were in my kitchen. The store
> is reputable. If they don't believe me then they've lost a customer.

I would have put them in Ziplocs and taken them back. I took milk
back that was sour before the "sell by" date - once. I have since
changed brands.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Oct 7, 8:20 pm, Tracy > wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>> Tracy wrote:
>>>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse semolina
>>>>> Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a funny dark spot inside and I saw that it was a worm. >
>>>>> Totally grossed me out. I tossed them all into the garbage can outside.
>>>>> I will stop at the store tomorrow and ask for my money back.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> (totally icked out)
>>> Shoulda brought them back, you tossed away your proof... but since
>>> you're not going to shop there anymore...
>> Well, I just couldn't stand knowing they were in my kitchen. The store
>> is reputable. If they don't believe me then they've lost a customer.
>
> I would have put them in Ziplocs and taken them back. I took milk
> back that was sour before the "sell by" date - once. I have since
> changed brands.
>
> N.

Well, I had put the three bags in another plastic grocery bag and put
them in the trash outside.
I decided this morning that I would grab them and bring them with me to
the store this afternoon.

I am heading out in about an hour. I am curious about how they will react.

-Tracy

Tracy wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>> On Oct 7, 8:20 pm, Tracy > wrote:
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> Tracy wrote:
>>>>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up
>>>>>> coarse semolina Tonight I was putting them away when I noticed a
>>>>>> funny dark spot
>>>>>> inside and I saw that it was a worm. > Totally grossed me out. I
>>>>>> tossed them all into the garbage can outside. I will stop at the
>>>>>> store tomorrow and ask for my money back.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> (totally icked out)
>>>> Shoulda brought them back, you tossed away your proof... but since
>>>> you're not going to shop there anymore...
>>> Well, I just couldn't stand knowing they were in my kitchen. The
>>> store is reputable. If they don't believe me then they've lost a
>>> customer.
>>
>> I would have put them in Ziplocs and taken them back. I took milk
>> back that was sour before the "sell by" date - once. I have since
>> changed brands.
>>
>> N.
>
> Well, I had put the three bags in another plastic grocery bag and put
> them in the trash outside.
> I decided this morning that I would grab them and bring them with me
> to the store this afternoon.
>
> I am heading out in about an hour. I am curious about how they will
> react.
> -Tracy


Hopefully they'll be glad you pointed out the problem. All the bags they
have might be infested...

Jill

Tracy wrote:
> Well, I had put the three bags in another plastic grocery bag and put
> them in the trash outside.
> I decided this morning that I would grab them and bring them with me
> to the store this afternoon.
>
> I am heading out in about an hour. I am curious about how they will
> react.
>
> -Tracy

Please let us know how it goes. When I was a teenager, I bought a can
of sesame seeds and it was full of tiny, white worms. I did not buy
sesame seeds for a couple of years. lol


Becca

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:59:26 -0400, Tracy wrote:

> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I would have put them in Ziplocs and taken them back. I took milk
>> back that was sour before the "sell by" date - once. I have since
>> changed brands.
>>
>> N.
>
> Well, I had put the three bags in another plastic grocery bag and put
> them in the trash outside.
> I decided this morning that I would grab them and bring them with me to
> the store this afternoon.
>
> I am heading out in about an hour. I am curious about how they will react.
>
> -Tracy

'eeewwww...'

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:15:25 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon wrote:

> On Oct 7, 8:57�pm, "pavane" > wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>
>> 5.250...
>>| On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>>|
>>| > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>>| > semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>|
>>| Worms! �UGH!!!
>>
>> Put it all into a microwave and zap them for a couple of
>> minutes. �They die and become harmless Sheldons.
>
> I hope you die, but first watch your loved ones die, slow and
> painfully.

aw, did someone hurt your widdle feewings, sheldon? and you such a
gentleman, it's hard to understand why anyone would attack you...

blake

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:21:10 -0400, Tracy wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>>
>>> I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>>> semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>
>> Worms! UGH!!!
>>
>>
> I know! I am not sure if I am going to be able to sleep. I am so grossed
> out.
>
> Tracy

be happy you found them before they found you. human cunning wins again!

your pal,
blake

Becca wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
>> Well, I had put the three bags in another plastic grocery bag and put
>> them in the trash outside.
>> I decided this morning that I would grab them and bring them with me
>> to the store this afternoon.
>>
>> I am heading out in about an hour. I am curious about how they will
>> react.
>>
>> -Tracy
>
> Please let us know how it goes. When I was a teenager, I bought a can
> of sesame seeds and it was full of tiny, white worms. I did not buy
> sesame seeds for a couple of years. lol
>
>
> Becca
>

I just called them. II figured it would be awkward (for both of us) to
walk in without at least giving them a warning. They will give me my
money back. Good thing I grabbed the bags outta the trash. The guy would
like to see them to show to his "flour guy".

I would really like to make couscous from scratch this Friday but...if I
have to use an premade type like Near East I will. I have done it
before. It is no way near as good though.

I learned from my Moroccan SIL to ALWAYS check the semolina - so I do.
Good thing too.



-Tracy

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:15:25 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Oct 7, 8:57?pm, "pavane" > wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> 5.250...
>>>| On Tue 07 Oct 2008 05:20:55p, Tracy told us...
>>>|
>>>| > I stopped by a local Middle Eastern store today to pick up coarse
>>>| > semolina for the couscous I am making later this week.
>>>|
>>>| Worms! ?UGH!!!
>>>
>>> Put it all into a microwave and zap them for a couple of
>>> minutes. ?They die and become harmless Sheldons.
>>
>> I hope you die, but first watch your loved ones die, slow and
>> painfully.
>
> aw, did someone hurt your widdle feewings, sheldon? and you such a
> gentleman, it's hard to understand why anyone would attack you...
>

Did you know that every single time Sheldon says something like this, it
brings a whole new crop of shitty things into his life? Hemorrhoids, boils,
cockroaches, who knows what all. If I were Sheldon I might say something
like CANCER but then I am not Sheldon. One of the reasons I keep this freak
kfed is because in order to deal with anyone on his level, you have to
become a little like them, just in self defense. Think about it. *shudder*

On Oct 7, 8:43 pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:

>
> I once found small worms of some sort, white pupae like creatures
> crawling on bags of beans at a small neighborhood market, not a 'liquor'
> store,

Oh- so it's to be expected in a liquor store?
Scratching my head on this one.

I gave up buying hushpuupy mix years ago - cudn't seem to get one in
the house without tiny worms, whether the mix was in a box or paper
sack.

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:


[snipped author]

> > WTF does whether it's a liquor store have any bearing?!?!?
>
>
> I kind of wondered that myself. I've never seen a liquor store that sells
> bags of beans. I've seen grocery stores in a few states that sell liquor
> but never been anywhere near the beans


When I moved to Petaluma some 30 years ago, I remember 3 liquor stores.
There may have been more, but I don't go to liquor stores, so I didn't
pay much attention. Only one is left. It's also a deli. Maybe it has
groceries, too, I don't remember. I haven't been there in years. It
used to be on the way home from a hiking place. Every grocery store
here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the little
convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited selection of
food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits. Costco has the best prices,
but it isn't worth a special trip because of the distance. The best
prices close to me are at the drug store. Sounds appropriate. I
usually walk, for the exercise.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
> [snipped author]
>
>>> WTF does whether it's a liquor store have any bearing?!?!?
>>
>>
>> I kind of wondered that myself. I've never seen a liquor store that
>> sells bags of beans. I've seen grocery stores in a few states that
>> sell liquor but never been anywhere near the beans
>
>
> When I moved to Petaluma some 30 years ago, I remember 3 liquor
> stores. There may have been more, but I don't go to liquor stores, so
> I didn't pay much attention. Only one is left. It's also a deli.
> Maybe it has groceries, too, I don't remember. I haven't been there
> in years. It used to be on the way home from a hiking place. Every
> grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
> little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
> selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits. Costco has
> the best prices, but it isn't worth a special trip because of the
> distance. The best prices close to me are at the drug store. Sounds
> appropriate. I usually walk, for the exercise.


No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
everything everywhere I've run into that in Iowa, too. There's no such
thing as selling spirits at the same store where they sell beer in
Tennessee. Forget about also selling groceries, although they can sell bags
of snacks. They aren't allowed to plain sell mixers but you can buy the
liquor. No such thing as selling hard spirits or wine in a grocery store,
either.

The laws are weird in many places in the southern U.S. There are still blue
laws and dry counties all over the place. You can't buy Jack Daniel's in
Lynchburg, TN, but they distill it there. Heh.

Jill
Jill

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
> everything everywhere

Just across the Sierra, we sell everything, everywhere, every hour. All
other states are pikers.

leo

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:

> > Every
> > grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
> > little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
> > selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits.

> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
> everything everywhere

No offense. Laws are weird in the US. I understand that in some
countries in Europe you can beer at McDonalds. Other countries, you
can't buy any booze of any kind anywhere.

> The laws are weird in many places in the southern U.S. There are still blue
> laws and dry counties all over the place. You can't buy Jack Daniel's in
> Lynchburg, TN, but they distill it there. Heh.

Yeah, I went to Texas for a conference some years back. The airport had
booze, but of course it was expensive. When I got to my motel, I
checked in and then asked the desk clerk where I could buy some beer to
take back to my room. She looked at me smugly and explained that it was
a dry county. I didn't stay dry, I drank water.

The weirdest place was Wyoming. I was taking a three week camping/visit
the relatives trip with my son, who was seven. He turns thirty soon, so
this wasn't exactly last week. We stopped at some little town. Maybe
it wasn't even a town. They had three separate stores, all right
together. Maybe it was even in the same building, but there were three
separate entrances. The one on the left was a fireworks store. The
selection of fireworks in California is limited, so this was a chance to
get the fun stuff. My son and I went in there and bought a whole box of
stuff. The clerk was very helpful, and suggested what might be good.
We paid and I went to put the box away in the vehicle. The clerk asked
if I needed groceries. Yes I did, so she said she'd meet me there. So
I went in the middle store, and there she was. I was a little confused,
because I was parked in front (I was the only customer for all three
stores) and she never came out. I bought my groceries for camping, and
went to put them away. The clerk asked if I wanted any beer. I did, so
she said she'd meet me there. So I went into the third store and bought
some beer. All's I can figure is that customers were required to exit
each store before entering the next, but the backs were all connected
together so the one employee could work all three stores without leaving
and reentering.

We have something similar in California. If you want prescription
glasses, you have to have a prescription for the lenses. The optical
shop and the opticians do not check vision and write prescriptions.
This requires an optometrist (or an eye MD). The optometry office is
not associated with the optical shop. Right. It just so happens that
they are next door to each other. My brother's wife's sister Jenny owns
an optical shop. She leases the space in a shopping center. The
optometrist is right upstairs. Jenny has the lease for that office
also, and owns all the equipment. She is not allowed to hire an
optometrist, though. There's a state law. She did it anyway, and she
got in big trouble and the optometrist lost his license. Bad idea. So
she hires an eye MD, who in turn hires an optometrist. That's legal.
Jenny opened another optical shop, sort of across the street. What's
with that? The optometrist's office is next door. You pick out your
frames, exit the store, enter the optometry office, get your
prescription, exit the office, and enter the optical shop to hand over
your prescription. When I went there, the optometrist wasn't there. I
asked my brother where the bathroom was, and he gave me instructions.
When I got in the back, the two shops were connected! There was only
one bathroom for both, and one storeroom.

ObFood: There was a chinese restaurant a few doors down from the new
store. Their specialty was sort of a popcorn chicken dish, except that
it was half crispy little chicken bites and half fried hot dried red
peppers. There was a lot of pain there. Almost all the restaurants for
a mile in every direction were chinese, although there were some korean
restaurants and a few fast food places. Sometimes I would spend a
couple of hours with my brother around there, and he, I and our father
would be the only white people we saw. Almost everybody there spoke
fluent chinese. Many of the customers spoke no English whatsoever.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>>> Every
>>> grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
>>> little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
>>> selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits.
>
>> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
>> everything everywhere
>
> No offense. Laws are weird in the US. I understand that in some
> countries in Europe you can beer at McDonalds. Other countries, you
> can't buy any booze of any kind anywhere.
>
It always tickles me there are such things as "dry" counties. I've gone to
Jonesboro Arkansas a couple of times and you can buy memberships at
restaurants for $5 a year and drink like a fish if you so desire. And the
hotels have bars that are allowed to sell booze. Yet you can't buy so much
as a beer in any store. Drive 20 miles across the county line and the first
thing you encounter (before there's even a gas station) is a liquor store.
LOL

One place John and I went (I think it was in Illinois but I'm not sure now)
there was a restaurant where they could sell drinks on one side of it but
not on the other side. It was built straddling a county line. Go figure.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>>> Every
>>>> grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
>>>> little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
>>>> selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits.
>>
>>> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
>>> everything everywhere
>>
>> No offense. Laws are weird in the US. I understand that in some
>> countries in Europe you can beer at McDonalds. Other countries, you
>> can't buy any booze of any kind anywhere.
>>
> It always tickles me there are such things as "dry" counties. I've gone
> to Jonesboro Arkansas a couple of times and you can buy memberships at
> restaurants for $5 a year and drink like a fish if you so desire. And
> the hotels have bars that are allowed to sell booze. Yet you can't buy
> so much as a beer in any store. Drive 20 miles across the county line
> and the first thing you encounter (before there's even a gas station) is
> a liquor store. LOL
>
> One place John and I went (I think it was in Illinois but I'm not sure
> now) there was a restaurant where they could sell drinks on one side of
> it but not on the other side. It was built straddling a county line.
> Go figure.
>
> Jill

There a few dry towns in Massachusetts but I think most are on the
Vineyard. One dry town (Weston) close to me recently voted to allow wine
sales in one local grocery store.


An article about it:

http://tinyurl.com/3l8cl4

Funniest line from a guy opposed: "most people in Weston already have
wine cellars anyway...."

-Tracy

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:29:55 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>>> Every
>>>> grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
>>>> little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
>>>> selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits.
>>
>>> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
>>> everything everywhere
>>
>> No offense. Laws are weird in the US. I understand that in some
>> countries in Europe you can beer at McDonalds. Other countries, you
>> can't buy any booze of any kind anywhere.
>>
>It always tickles me there are such things as "dry" counties. I've gone to
>Jonesboro Arkansas a couple of times and you can buy memberships at
>restaurants for $5 a year and drink like a fish if you so desire.

Yes, liquor laws can be rather silly. Chicago has little ethnic
"clubs" scattered around in older neighborhoods. They are exempt from
liquor laws and can serve 24/7. The ones I know of are Italian and
supported mainly by gambling. They move around a lot because they get
busted for the gambling and the machines get confiscated. You can't
just walk in off the street. You must me a member or a guest. It's
an interesting lifestyle. The guy I know who makes part of his living
running clubs has been in jail several times. Liquor is never an
issue. It's just the gambling. When he gets busted the outfit takes
care of things and he's up and running in a new place in a month or
so. I haven't seen him in a few years but I think he went back to
Italy to retire. He owned a nice home there too thanks to the money
he made here.

>And the
>hotels have bars that are allowed to sell booze. Yet you can't buy so much
>as a beer in any store. Drive 20 miles across the county line and the first
>thing you encounter (before there's even a gas station) is a liquor store.
>LOL
>
>One place John and I went (I think it was in Illinois but I'm not sure now)
>there was a restaurant where they could sell drinks on one side of it but
>not on the other side. It was built straddling a county line. Go figure.

I've never heard of that in Illinois but it could be. 30 years ago
when things were wild and crazy my group of friends found a few places
in unincorporated Cook County that had 6am to 5am licenses. A few
minutes before 5am drinks were collected. At 5am the doors were
locked and you couldn't leave. Joints were smoked and lines of coke
were snorted freely at the bar. And of course drinks were served. At
6am there was an announcement, doors were opened and things were back
to "normal."

If you go one county west, even to this day one city has a one per
person drink limit. So if you want a shot and a beer you have to
drink the shot and return the glass before you can have the beer.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:29:55 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>Dan Abel wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Every
>>>>> grocery store here sells beer, wine and distilled spirits. Even the
>>>>> little convenience store near me, which has an extremely limited
>>>>> selection of food, has beer, wine and distilled spirits.
>>>
>>>> No offense Dand but California is one of those states where they sell
>>>> everything everywhere
>>>
>>> No offense. Laws are weird in the US. I understand that in some
>>> countries in Europe you can beer at McDonalds. Other countries, you
>>> can't buy any booze of any kind anywhere.
>>>
>>It always tickles me there are such things as "dry" counties. I've gone
>>to
>>Jonesboro Arkansas a couple of times and you can buy memberships at
>>restaurants for $5 a year and drink like a fish if you so desire.
>
> Yes, liquor laws can be rather silly. Chicago has little ethnic
> "clubs" scattered around in older neighborhoods. They are exempt from
> liquor laws and can serve 24/7. The ones I know of are Italian and
> supported mainly by gambling. They move around a lot because they get
> busted for the gambling and the machines get confiscated. You can't
> just walk in off the street. You must me a member or a guest. It's
> an interesting lifestyle. The guy I know who makes part of his living
> running clubs has been in jail several times. Liquor is never an
> issue. It's just the gambling. When he gets busted the outfit takes
> care of things and he's up and running in a new place in a month or
> so. I haven't seen him in a few years but I think he went back to
> Italy to retire. He owned a nice home there too thanks to the money
> he made here.
>
>>And the
>>hotels have bars that are allowed to sell booze. Yet you can't buy so
>>much
>>as a beer in any store. Drive 20 miles across the county line and the
>>first
>>thing you encounter (before there's even a gas station) is a liquor store.
>>LOL
>>
>>One place John and I went (I think it was in Illinois but I'm not sure
>>now)
>>there was a restaurant where they could sell drinks on one side of it but
>>not on the other side. It was built straddling a county line. Go figure.
>
> I've never heard of that in Illinois but it could be. 30 years ago
> when things were wild and crazy my group of friends found a few places
> in unincorporated Cook County that had 6am to 5am licenses. A few
> minutes before 5am drinks were collected. At 5am the doors were
> locked and you couldn't leave. Joints were smoked and lines of coke
> were snorted freely at the bar. And of course drinks were served. At
> 6am there was an announcement, doors were opened and things were back
> to "normal."
>
> If you go one county west, even to this day one city has a one per
> person drink limit. So if you want a shot and a beer you have to
> drink the shot and return the glass before you can have the beer.
>
> Lou

Lou: Vermont is like that. You have to give the shot glass back to get the
beer.
South Carolina has a 'bottle bill' law. ONLY airline bottles in bars. NO
liquor on Sundays, UNLESS the restaurant or bar has a special liquor
license-which they all do.
New York-no liquor stores open on Sundays-UNLESS it was jewish owned and
they were closed on Saturdays (recently repealed).

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:15:12 -0400, "Kswck" >
wrote:


>Lou: Vermont is like that. You have to give the shot glass back to get the
>beer.
>South Carolina has a 'bottle bill' law. ONLY airline bottles in bars. NO
>liquor on Sundays, UNLESS the restaurant or bar has a special liquor
>license-which they all do.
>New York-no liquor stores open on Sundays-UNLESS it was jewish owned and
>they were closed on Saturdays (recently repealed).
>
It's all very weird. Crack houses run all night long but you can't
get a bloody many on Sunday morning. Really stupid laws.

Lou