It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
and I, will die because of it.

But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.

The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!

It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.

Are you prepared for the truth?

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
Amy Ellis > wrote:

> Are you prepared for the truth?

Have you taken your medication?

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>
>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>
> Have you taken your medication?

Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.

Can't you open your eyes and see?

Amy Ellis wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>> Have you taken your medication?
>
> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>
> Can't you open your eyes and see?

and who thought it would start with iceland

humble.life wrote:
> Amy Ellis wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>>> Have you taken your medication?
>>
>> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>>
>> Can't you open your eyes and see?
>
> and who thought it would start with iceland

I was all set to blame Farm foods.

firemonkey wrote:
> humble.life wrote:
>> Amy Ellis wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>>>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>>>> Have you taken your medication?
>>>
>>> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>>>
>>> Can't you open your eyes and see?
>>
>> and who thought it would start with iceland
>
> I was all set to blame Farm foods.

that is a reprehensible food stuff, but ginsters, if anyone, would do it

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:47:44 +0100
Amy Ellis > wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
> > Amy Ellis > wrote:
> >
> >> Are you prepared for the truth?
> >
> > Have you taken your medication?
>
> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>
> Can't you open your eyes and see?

Maybe the nukes will get us before global warming does - so what?
Unless a messianic figure turns up with a cogent argument to "do what I
say and you will be saved" then what difference does it make? And even
if he did, would anyone take a blind bit of notice?

Rob Morley > wrote:

> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>
> > Are you prepared for the truth?
>
> Have you taken your medication?

Is that *the* Rob Morley?

Rowland.

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Rob Morley wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:47:44 +0100
> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>>> Have you taken your medication?
>> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>>
>> Can't you open your eyes and see?
>
> Maybe the nukes will get us before global warming does - so what?
> Unless a messianic figure turns up with a cogent argument to "do what I
> say and you will be saved" then what difference does it make? And even
> if he did, would anyone take a blind bit of notice?
>
try calling yourself jesus these days and you just get sectioned

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:26:35 +0100
gibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

> Rob Morley > wrote:
>
> > Amy Ellis > wrote:
> >
> > > Are you prepared for the truth?
> >
> > Have you taken your medication?
>
> Is that *the* Rob Morley?

Only if that's *the* Rowland McDonnell. ;-)
(presumably reading this in uk.comp.sys.mac?)

"Amy Ellis" > wrote in message
...
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

Well as long as it shuts you up, then I'm all for it.

humble.life wrote:

> try calling yourself jesus these days and you just get sectioned


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lRwH-QgjTdk

Rob Morley > wrote:

> gibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> > Rob Morley > wrote:
> >
> > > Amy Ellis > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you prepared for the truth?
> > >
> > > Have you taken your medication?
> >
> > Is that *the* Rob Morley?
>
> Only if that's *the* Rowland McDonnell. ;-)

There might well be more than one Rowland McDonnell in the world, but
there ain't many of us, that's for sure. Yep, I'm me all right.

> (presumably reading this in uk.comp.sys.mac?)

And the other one. One of these days...

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Amy Ellis > wrote:

> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.

Don't see why. Many of us live in civilised nations that don't permit
people to die of hunger due to lack of money.

In any case, people have more of a clue about economics these days, and
if the USA can be persuaded to *NOT* pass idiotic `protectionist'
legislation this time (as it did after the 1929 stock market crash),
even the USA might spare itself from another depression (the rest of the
world's leading economies are not run by people that stupid). But only
if the USA's politicians can avoid the sort of terminal stupidity that
****ed up the USA last time around.

> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.

Too late for that, I'm afraid.

> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!

It's a good job there are plenty of women in goverment these days.

> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

I know the truth: loonies have been making pretty much exactly the same
claim since shortly after Jesus died. Many of them have been adament
that they knew the real truth about the future, about how the Apocalypse
was sure to occur on a particular date. And they were all wrong.

I assume that you're exactly as lunatic and exactly as wrong as the
millions of others who have spouted the same nonsense in more or less
exactly the same way over the last 2000 years, near enough.

What makes you think *YOU* are right when everyone who's made your claim
in the past has been completely wrong? Remember we've had nearly 2000
years of your nonsense - at least. It's always been proven nonsense by
the fact that the end of the world has never happened - not when
predicted by all those millions of lunatics, and not at any other time,
either.

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Amy Ellis wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?


Even crossposting to multiple newsgroups will prove to be too little,
too late.

<in case you hadn't noticed, we're aiming for a woman in the White House
so so there>

Rowland McDonnell wrote:

> Many of us live in civilised nations that don't permit people to die of
> hunger due to lack of money.

Moreover, this time around there's no dustbowl in Oklahoma and Kansas; that
region is agriculturally viable.

Bob

On Oct 10, 6:29*pm, Amy Ellis > wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

>
>
It's time to cut your dosage of Prozac in half.

In article >,
lid says...
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
> > Amy Ellis > wrote:
> >
> >> Are you prepared for the truth?
> >
> > Have you taken your medication?
>
> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>
> Can't you open your eyes and see?
>


Not yet it's not even 7am...

Mind you I have cleaned the kitchen thoroughly so guess I
must have had my eyes open enough to do that! LOL

Thanks for the cheery greeting! ;o)

In article >,
says...
> humble.life wrote:
> > Amy Ellis wrote:
> >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
> >>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
> >>> Have you taken your medication?
> >>
> >> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
> >>
> >> Can't you open your eyes and see?
> >
> > and who thought it would start with iceland
>
> I was all set to blame Farm foods.
>


I'm must be old... I can remember Bejams! LOL

itsjoannotjoann wrote:

On Oct 10, 6:29 pm, Amy Ellis > wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

>
>
It's time to cut your dosage of Prozac in half.
---------------

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Lol...don't you mean *double* the dosage...

:-)


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"Amy Ellis" > wrote in message
...
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

I'm with you on this, the next BIG thing is...... OIL ~15 years time when it
start to really run out .........

It will make these problems now seem insignificant in comparison, think
about it what are you going to when the oil has run out......

Amy Ellis wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!

ROFL! Since when did The White house *ever* try to *stop* a war?
(or parliament for that matter)


> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.

There is NO need to follow the misleading crap dished out regarding the
local or world economy at *any* time. It only serves to confuse and
obfuscate reality.

- if the economy has generally been good for so many years (which it has
for been for over a decade) then naturally it cannot continue forever,
since it *never* has in the past.

But for some irrational reason, most people prefer to live in denial,
and hope that for no particular reason at all, the economy will continue
to avoid a recession/depression.

> Are you prepared for the truth?


Yes, for some years now.

In July this year I finally bought acreage in a remote but very nice
area, wood heaters, chainsaws. 4X4, rifles for the many wabbits and Deer
here.
All paid for with cash that I *saved*. NO finance, thank you (now
there's a radical thing in this day and age).

Still need my own fishing rod for the trout though...

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:39:08 +1000, Jeßus >
wrote:

>Amy Ellis wrote:
>> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
>> and I, will die because of it.
>>
>> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>>
>> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
>ROFL! Since when did The White house *ever* try to *stop* a war?
>(or parliament for that matter)
>
>
>> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
>There is NO need to follow the misleading crap dished out regarding the
>local or world economy at *any* time. It only serves to confuse and
>obfuscate reality.
>
>- if the economy has generally been good for so many years (which it has
>for been for over a decade) then naturally it cannot continue forever,
>since it *never* has in the past.
>
>But for some irrational reason, most people prefer to live in denial,
>and hope that for no particular reason at all, the economy will continue
>to avoid a recession/depression.
>
>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>
>
>Yes, for some years now.
>
This movie is 2 hours long. You can just download it, if you have the
download helper add-on in Firefox, or simply sit at your computer.
It may change the way you look at the world. At first it might seem a
bit arty farty. Then, after a couple of minutes, it starts on
religion. Later it goes onto 9/11 and the role of the banks.
From that you can see the quite plasible senario that relates to the
world financial problems today. In short, the film is about how
society is manipulated into behaving the way the power and money men
want us to behave. You have to see this film in its entirety to get
the message. It suggests that the PRIVATE central bank in the U.S.
purposefully encourages wars and situations like we have now, in
regard to finances, in order to profit from them.
Watch it in its entirety and then decide for yourself how true or
false it is.
There are 2 videos on the page, go to the lower one.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

There are small excerpts from this film on YouTube. Some pretend to be
the full movie but they aren't as the full movie lasts 2 hours.



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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100, Amy Ellis wrote
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

Hmm... looking at the list of unrelated newsgroups this has been spammed to,
I detect a troll

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100, Amy Ellis > wrote:

>It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
>and I, will die because of it.
>
>But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
>The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
>It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
>Are you prepared for the truth?
*rant mode on*
Evidently better than you. You dumb f**k, they aren't interested in stopping it,
they're setting up the situations for starting it, taking profits from it, and
surviving the aftermath. Us peons can just F O A D, since we're worthless and there
are billions too many of us anyway.

There, are you ready forTHAT bit of truth?

*rant mode off*

Amy Ellis wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including
> you and I, will die because of it.
>
Where do these crossposting loser trolls come from?!! My grandparents and
parents weathered the great depression quite well, thanks. No one starved
to death. Just added another troll to the k/f.

Jill

> From that you can see the quite plasible senario that relates to the
=============================================

Lurn two spel
Lynn in Fargo

it would not surprise me if the Jews are behind
> this lot to some degree .I haven't heard any of them moaning about
> being short of cash like the rest of the worlds population have have .

=======================================

Yup. It be us.
Lynn in Fargo
Sitting pat with $37.42 to my name

"Amy Ellis" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>>
>> Have you taken your medication?
>
> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>
> Can't you open your eyes and see?

Yes yes it's all in the book of Revelation - written by a monk on a trip
~100CE.

jmcquown wrote:
> Amy Ellis wrote:
>> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including
>> you and I, will die because of it.
>>
> Where do these crossposting loser trolls come from?!! My grandparents
> and parents weathered the great depression quite well, thanks. No one
> starved to death. Just added another troll to the k/f.
>
> Jill

Yep. There have been 10 "Bear Markets" (Recessions) since the "Great
Depression". The best way to prepare for them is to learn to live within
your means, keeping your use of credit to a minimum. Not a complicated
sort of thing, all around.

This most recent trouble happened because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
continued doing exactly what they were designed to do: Make mortgage
loans to bad risk borrowers. They eventually held more than half of all
mortgages in America. When the pool of cash ran out, they crashed.
That's being bailed out with our tax dollars...

Right now, the stock market is dropping because people are selling out
because the market is dropping... The screaming and panic will end
eventually, and stock prices will be artificially dirt cheap for a
while. A good time to invest.

In the meantime, isn't is good to know how to prepare an inexpensive meal?

Amy Ellis wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>>
>> Have you taken your medication?
>
> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>
> Can't you open your eyes and see?


Apparently only crossposting trolls are concerned about this. Hides behind
an anonymous remailer, too. Typical.

Jill

Gregory Morrow > wrote:

> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
> Amy Ellis > wrote:
> > It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> > and I, will die because of it.
> >
> > But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
> >
> > The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
> >
> > It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
> >
> > Are you prepared for the truth?
>
> It's time to cut your dosage of Prozac in half.
> ---------------
>
> GM replies:
>
> Lol...don't you mean *double* the dosage...
>
> :-)

Prozac has a tendency to make people angry and paranoid and suicidal in
some cases - as well as damaging the ability to think straight of almost
anyone taking it (as far as I can tell).

Halving the dose might well help. But this person looks like they need
stronger medication - I'd suggest a mallet applied to the back of the
head.

Rowland.


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Amy Ellis wrote:
> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
> and I, will die because of it.
>
> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>
> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>
> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>
> Are you prepared for the truth?

I believe it is terrorists who have manipulated the banking systems.

1st they get the US and UK to pump lot's of money into the countires
they bombed. They they make the western world bankrupt buy fixing the
financial markets - easy way to get at the west without any terrorist
casualties!

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We don't die, we just stop paying taxes.

Clive Sinclair wrote:
> Amy Ellis wrote:
>> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
>> and I, will die because of it.
>> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>>
>> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>>
>> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>>
>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>
> I believe it is terrorists who have manipulated the banking systems.
>
> 1st they get the US and UK to pump lot's of money into the countires
> they bombed. They they make the western world bankrupt buy fixing the
> financial markets - easy way to get at the west without any terrorist
> casualties!
>


hmmmmm.

somehow i think that our perception of "terrorism" is one-sided.

it lacks the comprehension of the effects of centuries of embargoes,
imperialism and infrastructure destruction.

of course we forget to mention we've had military outposts in all of the
economically important areas since the days of spices and tea.

living on the "wrong" side of that, without choice, will mean that your
perception of the west isn't going to be that good. and for good
reason, it isn't good...

whether you like the destructive output or not, their's no smoke without
fire.

wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:46:48 GMT, Clive Sinclair > wrote:
>
>> Amy Ellis wrote:
>>> It won't be a recession, it will be a DEPRESSION and many, including you
>>> and I, will die because of it.
>>>
>>> But, before the end, there will be a World War. It will be World War III.
>>>
>>> The men at the White House or the Parliament can't stop this one!
>>>
>>> It's a fact that many people seem to have a problem admitting.
>>>
>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>> I believe it is terrorists who have manipulated the banking systems.
>>
>> 1st they get the US and UK to pump lot's of money into the countires
>> they bombed. They they make the western world bankrupt buy fixing the
>> financial markets - easy way to get at the west without any terrorist
>> casualties!
> Not having experienced anything like this in my lifetime and maybe not
> exactly along the lines you are thinking but I certainly feel there is
> something sinister about it all . Personally I am pointing my finger
> at Israel don't have any evidence to back this up it is just a gut
> feeling I have .

stop the finger pointing, this is about emotionless, philosophically
devoid demons in government and on the stock exchange and nothing else.

and over-priced housing.

"MadMazza" > wrote in message
et...
> In article >,
> says...
>> humble.life wrote:
>> > Amy Ellis wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:49 +0100
>> >>> Amy Ellis > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Are you prepared for the truth?
>> >>> Have you taken your medication?
>> >>
>> >> Mock me if you wish, but I will be proved correct.
>> >>
>> >> Can't you open your eyes and see?
>> >
>> > and who thought it would start with iceland
>>
>> I was all set to blame Farm foods.
>>
>
>
> I'm must be old... I can remember Bejams! LOL
>

What about Templetons and Capital?

humble.life wrote:

>
> stop the finger pointing, this is about emotionless, philosophically
> devoid demons in government and on the stock exchange and nothing else.
>
> and over-priced housing.

I blame it on those dastardly Oxonians. They are so very cunning

firemonkey wrote:
> humble.life wrote:
>
>>
>> stop the finger pointing, this is about emotionless, philosophically
>> devoid demons in government and on the stock exchange and nothing else.
>>
>> and over-priced housing.
>
> I blame it on those dastardly Oxonians. They are so very cunning
>
>
We're too busy being ****ed over by the postcard lies....

firemonkey > wrote:

> humble.life wrote:
>
> >
> > stop the finger pointing, this is about emotionless, philosophically
> > devoid demons in government and on the stock exchange and nothing else.
> >
> > and over-priced housing.
>
> I blame it on those dastardly Oxonians. They are so very cunning

You're all wrong. (and of course the creatures running things have
emotions. They've also got philosophy by the bucketload as you'd know
if you'd ever listened to 'em. Craphat philosophy if you ask me, but
philosophy nonetheless. I've argued against 'em. I went to school with
the sort of chap who works on the Stock Exchange; I know this because
plenty of 'em ended up there, or nearby in the City).

The basic problem is that we've got a global financial system.

The other part of the problem is that those who have the responsibility
to ensure that it works smoothly have not met their responsibilities.

If it's possible to blame anyone, it's the people who have failed to
give us proper regulation. Either that, or it's the fault of the Secret
Masters of Shambala who have orchestrated the whole thing for their own
nefarious ends. And don't dismiss that `basic paranoia' idea as glibly
as all tha - you never know. The world *is* run by conspiracies,
because all the people in power do in fact make their decisions in
secret, behind closed doors - and then lie to us about it. President,
PM, company director, Grand Master of the Priory of Zion - they're all
the same, except that some of them are imaginary. The big differences
between me and a conspiracy theorist are that: I don't think I know
who's doing the plotting or what they're coming up with, and I think
that there's a myriad of conspiracies running the world, not one big
one.

What we've got now financially is just `one of those things' - one of
those periodic financial hiccups that happens, and this one's
particularly bad because of deregulation in financial markets
(particularly the USA and UK) in the 1980s. If it's a conspiracy to
**** things up, find out who are responsible for the deregulation and
then keeping things badly regulated and you've tracked down the
ostensible sources of our woes.

Me? I'm going to not worry about it at all unless we get hyperinflation
- which would make me laugh like a drain and then give up completely.

Rowland.

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