My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
broke

Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
break after such a short time?

Thank you.

Corey Richardson wrote:
> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
> broke
>
> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
> break after such a short time?

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...ato-ricer.aspx

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
wrote:

>Corey Richardson wrote:
>> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>> broke
>>
>> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>> break after such a short time?
>
>http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...ato-ricer.aspx

Thank you for the suggestion Sheldon. Have you personally used one of
these?

Corey Richardson > wrote:

> My potato ricer died tonight...

Pop Qu9iz: How do you identify a troll?

They only participate in the threads they starts.

In article >,
Corey Richardson > wrote:

> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
> broke
>
> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
> break after such a short time?
>
> Thank you.

Check thrift shops and antique stores. I just sold one for a dollar.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, Thelma and Louise
On the Road Again - It is Finished

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:56:10 -0500, Swertz >
wrote:

>Corey Richardson > wrote:
>
>> My potato ricer died tonight...
>
>Pop Qu9iz: How do you identify a troll?
>
>They only participate in the threads they starts.

If you care to check, you'll see that you're wrong about both claims.

On Oct 11, 5:50*pm, Corey Richardson >
wrote:
> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
> broke
>
> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
> break after such a short time?
>
> Thank you.

It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).

I use a chinois - that was my grandma's - it's lasted about a hunnert
years so far.

N.

On 13/10/08 20:12, in article
, "Nancy2"
> wrote:

> On Oct 11, 5:50*pm, Corey Richardson >
> wrote:
>> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>> broke
>>
>> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>> break after such a short time?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).

Depends on the material. Welding alu ist tricky, AFAIK.

--
Joe Kotroczo

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Oct 11, 5:50*pm, Corey Richardson >
>wrote:
>> My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>> broke
>>
>> Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>> preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>> break after such a short time?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).

Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
suggestion though.

Corey Richardson wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>
>>On Oct 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Richardson >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>>>broke
>>>
>>>Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>>>preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>>>break after such a short time?
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>
>>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).
>
>
> Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
> suggestion though.

Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it
can certainly be done now.

Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
welded can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace
industry for 25 years and there was nothing the development lads
couldn't repair.

Dave

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> Corey Richardson wrote:
>> Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>> suggestion though.
>
> Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it can
> certainly be done now.

ROTFL! Is it really feasible today to seek out a specialist welder to repair a
kitchen tool that in comparative terms would cost coppers to replace. (n.b.
"coppers" is just an expression of 'cheapness' and is in no way trying to keep
"foreigners" out of the thread as some users of the euro have suggested. I
might just as easily have said "cents", or even, god forbid, them little
things the Eyeties use that cost less than a coin?)
>
> Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be welded
> can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace industry for 25
> years and there was nothing the development lads couldn't repair.

ROTFLMAOA! But Dave, please, how many of us now work in such an environment?

I also remember the days when engineers, electricians, welders etc. would get
involved in some attempt to repair an important piece of kitchen equipment so
the cook could again produce some favourite dish. I remember when the repairs
worked. I remember when the repairs failed. I remember when some members of
the repair team received suggestions as to just where they could take their
welding/brazing skills and then just what they could do with them!

Make do and mend is not a proper course to take these days, though the mighty
PC refurbishers might think otherwise.

--
Pete

On Oct 14, 1:57�pm, Dave > wrote:
> Corey Richardson wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > > wrote:
>
> >>On Oct 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Richardson >
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
> >>>broke
>
> >>>Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
> >>>preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
> >>>break after such a short time?
>
> >>>Thank you.
>
> >>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? �(re-welded).
>
> > Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
> > suggestion though.
>
> Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it
> can certainly be done now.
>
> Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
> welded can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace
> industry for 25 years and there was nothing the development lads
> couldn't repair.

Yeah, right... a small local weld shop will charge at least $100 to
repair a $10 ricer, and no guarantees... when aluminum is heated to
welding temperatures it loses all it's temper, becomes dead soft,
would need to be retempered, a process that costs more than the weld
job, much more, doesn't pay to temper aluminum one piece at a time,
they'd do a truckload.

Often a thingie can be put back together (often better than new) with
bolts, rivets, fish plates, etc. but without seeing the actual break I
can't begin to guess how to do a patch job. Anyway, potato ricers are
cheap, if someone uses one often and/or is rough with tools then they
really should buy one of better quality than chintzy cheapo cast
aluminum, get a commercial type stainless steel ricer and it will last
a lifetime. I'm positive that the aluminum ricers on the market are
not made of aircraft/marine grade aluminum... it's the lowest grade
remelted/recast junkyard scrap, more likely what folks think is cast
aluminum is pot metal.

Pot metal is analogous to the grade of cast iron used to make cast
iron cookware; crapmetal... the cast iron used for sinks, tubs, waste
lines (and was once used to make cast iron terlits) is a far, FAR
better grade than what's used for cookware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_metal

"Pete Wilkins" wrote:
> "Dave" wrote:
> > Corey Richardson wrote:
> >> Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
> >> suggestion though.
>
> > Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it can
> > certainly be done now.
>
> ROTFL! Is it really feasible today to seek out a specialist welder to repair a
> kitchen tool that in comparative terms would cost coppers to replace. (n.b.
> "coppers" is just an expression of 'cheapness' and is in no way trying to keep
> "foreigners" out of the thread as some users of the euro have suggested. I
> might just as easily have said "cents", or even, god forbid, them little
> things the Eyeties use that cost less than a coin?)
>
>
>
> > Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be welded
> > can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace industry for 25
> > years and there was nothing the development lads couldn't repair.
>
> ROTFLMAOA! But Dave, please, how many of us now work in such an environment?
>
> I also remember the days when engineers, electricians, welders etc. would get
> involved in some attempt to repair an important piece of kitchen equipment so
> the cook could again produce some favourite dish. I remember when the repairs
> worked. I remember when the repairs failed. I remember when some members of
> the repair team received suggestions as to just where they could take their
> welding/brazing skills and then just what they could do with them!
>
> Make do and mend is not a proper course to take these days, though the mighty
> PC refurbishers might think otherwise.


Hmm, sure seems you have some private personal ax to grind (for that
you lose all credibility). But - HELLO - mending is still very alive
and well. Unfortunately there just aren't a lot of handy dandy fix-it
folks around as there once were but they certainly do still exist.
Some dexterous dude/ette with a little basement workshop I'm sure
could easily repair a spud ricer (better than new) for "peanuts".
Pete Wilkins, yoose sure is a bitter little bitch, and for that fix
you need a handy dandy Proctologist to ease that bramble from yer
butt.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
> "Pete Wilkins" wrote:
>> "Dave" wrote:
>> > Corey Richardson wrote:
>> >> Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>> >> suggestion though.
>>
>> > Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it can
>> > certainly be done now.
>>
>> ROTFL! Is it really feasible today to seek out a specialist welder to
>> repair a
>> kitchen tool that in comparative terms would cost coppers to replace. (n.b.
>> "coppers" is just an expression of 'cheapness' and is in no way trying to
>> keep
>> "foreigners" out of the thread as some users of the euro have suggested. I
>> might just as easily have said "cents", or even, god forbid, them little
>> things the Eyeties use that cost less than a coin?)
>>
>>
>>
>> > Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
>> > welded
>> > can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace industry for
>> > 25
>> > years and there was nothing the development lads couldn't repair.
>>
>> ROTFLMAOA! But Dave, please, how many of us now work in such an
>> environment?
>>
>> I also remember the days when engineers, electricians, welders etc. would
>> get
>> involved in some attempt to repair an important piece of kitchen equipment
>> so
>> the cook could again produce some favourite dish. I remember when the
>> repairs
>> worked. I remember when the repairs failed. I remember when some members of
>> the repair team received suggestions as to just where they could take their
>> welding/brazing skills and then just what they could do with them!
>>
>> Make do and mend is not a proper course to take these days, though the
>> mighty
>> PC refurbishers might think otherwise.
>
>
> Hmm, sure seems you have some private personal ax to grind (for that
> you lose all credibility). But - HELLO - mending is still very alive
> and well. Unfortunately there just aren't a lot of handy dandy fix-it
> folks around as there once were but they certainly do still exist.
> Some dexterous dude/ette with a little basement workshop I'm sure
> could easily repair a spud ricer (better than new) for "peanuts".
> Pete Wilkins, yoose sure is a bitter little bitch, and for that fix
> you need a handy dandy Proctologist to ease that bramble from yer
> butt.
>

Yo Sheldon! Just like ya used to do all them years ago, ya still do now:
Ignore the points made in any argument and go hone in on something personal
and make a big bitch out of that.

You sound just like the bitching S.O.B. who said to me, "I really enjoyed that
Irish Stew, what was it made of?" As soon as I said, "Well, lamb ... " - I
could get no further, because this s.o.b. yelled: "Lamb! No f*cking way! I
ain't eaten lamb yet and I ain't gonna start now!!!"

When I explained he had just eaten lamb, a classic ingredient of Irish Stew,
he started spitting and frothing at the mouth about "dirty lamb" this and
"filthy lamb" that. His US expat friends joined in with: "Don't listen to that
clown! He's a "Canuck" anyway and he's been working down Texas way too long!"
I never found out where the clown was actually from but I do have my
suspicions.

Carry on, Sheldon! (Where are you from?)

--
Pete

Sheldon wrote:

> On Oct 14, 1:57�pm, Dave > wrote:
>
>>Corey Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Oct 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Richardson >
>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>>>>>broke
>>
>>>>>Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>>>>>preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>>>>>break after such a short time?
>>
>>>>>Thank you.
>>
>>>>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? �(re-welded).
>>
>>>Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>>>suggestion though.
>>
>>Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it
>>can certainly be done now.
>>
>>Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
>>welded can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace
>>industry for 25 years and there was nothing the development lads
>>couldn't repair.
>
>
> Yeah, right... a small local weld shop will charge at least $100 to
> repair a $10 ricer, and no guarantees... when aluminum is heated to
> welding temperatures it loses all it's temper, becomes dead soft,
> would need to be retempered, a process that costs more than the weld
> job, much more, doesn't pay to temper aluminum one piece at a time,
> they'd do a truckload.

Aluminium can't be tempered unless it is something like L 72 or L 73.
These classes of the metal can not be welded, they just burn away from
the torch. softer aluminium can be welded and then spun to make them
hard. But never heat treated.

> Often a thingie can be put back together (often better than new) with
> bolts, rivets, fish plates, etc. but without seeing the actual break I
> can't begin to guess how to do a patch job. Anyway, potato ricers are
> cheap, if someone uses one often and/or is rough with tools then they
> really should buy one of better quality than chintzy cheapo cast
> aluminum,

Cast aluminium cant be welded either

> get a commercial type stainless steel ricer and it will last
> a lifetime.

That is the type I have had for many years now.

> I'm positive that the aluminum ricers on the market are
> not made of aircraft/marine grade aluminum...

If they were they would have to be spun to get the shape. Just how you
could get the handle on without welding escapes me right now.

Dave

Pete Wilkins wrote:

> "Dave" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Corey Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>>>suggestion though.
>>
>>Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it can
>>certainly be done now.
>
>
> ROTFL! Is it really feasible today to seek out a specialist welder

Are there are any specialist welders outside of aerospace? lots could do
this simple task.


>>Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be welded
>>can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace industry for 25
>>years and there was nothing the development lads couldn't repair.
>
>
> ROTFLMAOA! But Dave, please, how many of us now work in such an environment?

Do you do DIY at home? Including the buttering of a slice of bread?

If you do, you are learning lost skills. What's the difference?

> I also remember the days when engineers, electricians, welders etc. would get
> involved in some attempt to repair an important piece of kitchen equipment so
> the cook could again produce some favourite dish. I remember when the repairs
> worked. I remember when the repairs failed. I remember when some members of
> the repair team received suggestions as to just where they could take their
> welding/brazing skills and then just what they could do with them!

Looks like you are older than I thought. Demarcation was dropped more
that 30 years ago in the UK. These days we have plumbers wiring boilers
up, commissioning it, working out emissions from the boiler and
assessing the goodness of it.


Alarm engineers wiring alarms up, heating engineers doing flow tests
that corgi used to do. Now tell me, how many Transco men are Corgi rated?

> Make do and mend is not a proper course to take these days, though the mighty
> PC refurbishers might think otherwise.

That is the way that industry has gone though.
>

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> Pete Wilkins wrote:
>
>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Corey Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>>>>suggestion though.
>>>
>>>Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it can
>>>certainly be done now.
>>
>>
>> ROTFL! Is it really feasible today to seek out a specialist welder
>
> Are there are any specialist welders outside of aerospace? lots could do
> this simple task.
>
>
>>>Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be welded
>>>can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace industry for 25
>>>years and there was nothing the development lads couldn't repair.
>>
>>
>> ROTFLMAOA! But Dave, please, how many of us now work in such an
>> environment?
>
> Do you do DIY at home? Including the buttering of a slice of bread?
>
> If you do, you are learning lost skills. What's the difference?
>
>> I also remember the days when engineers, electricians, welders etc. would
>> get involved in some attempt to repair an important piece of kitchen
>> equipment so the cook could again produce some favourite dish. I remember
>> when the repairs worked. I remember when the repairs failed. I remember
>> when some members of the repair team received suggestions as to just where
>> they could take their welding/brazing skills and then just what they could
>> do with them!
>
> Looks like you are older than I thought. Demarcation was dropped more that
> 30 years ago in the UK. These days we have plumbers wiring boilers up,
> commissioning it, working out emissions from the boiler and assessing the
> goodness of it.
>
>
> Alarm engineers wiring alarms up, heating engineers doing flow tests that
> corgi used to do. Now tell me, how many Transco men are Corgi rated?
>
>> Make do and mend is not a proper course to take these days, though the
>> mighty PC refurbishers might think otherwise.
>
> That is the way that industry has gone though.
>>

Dave, I'm not too sure just what I'm replying to, so I didn't snip nothing!
lol!

The times I was talking about are long gone, except when I was talking about
engineers/electricians/welders etc., I was talking about onboard crew, or crew
in the actual work camp, so of course they all did their best to make sure
everything worked out OK for the guys in the camp. If the engineers etc found
out we were needing something in the kitchen, why, before we knew, they would
be down asking if they could help in any way. This is where I was talking
about the successes - the failures - etc. ... they all wanted to have a go if
they knew Old Cookie was stuck for something!

Demarcation! Sheeeeeet! That drove me and many others almost to distraction.
For some unknown reason it has become renowned as a British disease. I tell
you, I saw it personally in almost every single port across the world, East -
West etc., you name it, they had their rules and by golly you had better play
by them. The rules were always open to negotiation and again, I always found,
the further east you went the easier the negotiations went but also the more
the price went up. It was still that way in the 90s when I retired. From what
I hear now, people like me would have no chance because we were too honest and
it now all begins as soon as you leave the UK, then the further east the very
much higher the price that none of us would now recognise.. And from what I'm
reliably told, it takes place in supposed EU Countries and the graft leaves
your legs shaking.

Ah well, it must be nice to have Peter Benjamin Mandelson, Baron Mandelson,
back home and away from causing EU problems. Maybe.

--
Pete

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:57:47 +0100, Dave >
wrote:

>Corey Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Oct 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Richardson >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
>>>>broke
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
>>>>preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
>>>>break after such a short time?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
>> suggestion though.
>
>Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it
>can certainly be done now.
>
>Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
>welded can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace
>industry for 25 years and there was nothing the development lads
>couldn't repair.
>
>Dave

It'd probably cost me more to repair than it was to purchase it. Plus if
it failed so quickly, it probably wasn't of great quality anyway!

Dave > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 1:57 pm, Dave > wrote:
>
> >>Corey Richardson wrote:
>
> >>>On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
> >>>>On Oct 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Richardson >
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>My potato ricer died tonight after 3 years when one of the welds on it
> >>>>>broke
>
> >>>>>Can anyone here suggest a make of ricer that's of good quality, and
> >>>>>preferably made of cast metal like a Zyliss garlic press, that won't
> >>>>>break after such a short time?
>
> >>>>>Thank you.
>
> >>>>It probably can be mended by a local machine shop, no? (re-welded).
>
> >>>Unfortunately not. It began to tear at the weld before it failed. Good
> >>>suggestion though.
>
> >>Why do you say that it can't be welded? If it was done in the past it
> >>can certainly be done now.
>
> >>Not all aluminium joints are welded, some are brazed. What can't be
> >>welded can be invisibly riveted though. I worked in the aerospace
> >>industry for 25 years and there was nothing the development lads
> >>couldn't repair.
>
> > Yeah, right... a small local weld shop will charge at least $100 to
> > repair a $10 ricer, and no guarantees... when aluminum is heated to
> > welding temperatures it loses all it's temper, becomes dead soft,
> > would need to be retempered, a process that costs more than the weld
> > job, much more, doesn't pay to temper aluminum one piece at a time,
> > they'd do a truckload.
>
> Aluminium can't be tempered unless it is something like L 72 or L 73.
> These classes of the metal can not be welded, they just burn away from
> the torch. softer aluminium can be welded and then spun to make them
> hard. But never heat treated.


Bullshit!

http://www.engineersedge.com/aluminum_tempers.htm


> > Often a thingie can be put back together (often better than new) with
> > bolts, rivets, fish plates, etc. but without seeing the actual break I
> > can't begin to guess how to do a patch job. �Anyway, potato ricers are
> > cheap, if someone uses one often and/or is rough with tools then they
> > really should buy one of better quality than chintzy cheapo cast
> > aluminum,
>
> Cast aluminium cant be welded either


I didn't mention welding, but cast aluminum certainly can be welded,
just not typically in the home workshop, which is why I didn't mention
welding. Aluminum castings are one of the more commonly welded forms
of aluminum... sheet/rolled/milled aluminun is more often riveted and/
or joined by myriad mechanical/chemical fasteners... most aircraft
fuselages are bonded and riveted... not welded because heat destroys
the temper. With many fabrications, such as truck bodies, temper is
not important so those are welded.... aluminum fuel tanks are
welded... new transportation laws require a switch to aluminum fuel
tankers to reduce fire/explosion... aluminum doesn't spark.

http://www.welding-advisers.com/Welding-aluminum.html



> > get a commercial type stainless steel ricer and it will last
> > a lifetime.
>
> That is the type I have had for many years now.
>
> > I'm positive that the aluminum ricers on the market are
> > not made of aircraft/marine grade aluminum...
>
> If they were they would have to be spun to get the shape.

Yeah, right... spun aluminum row boats! LOL

Just how you
> could get the handle on without welding escapes me right now.
>
> Dave

I'm not even going to address your other issues, your head is
spinning, get a handle on it.