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Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Gloria P > wrote:
>
>
>>Omelet wrote:
>>
>>>While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>>>
>>>Caring for elderly parents.
>>>
>>>Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
>>>especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
>>>they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>>>
>>>I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
>>>to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements,

>>
>>>The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
>>>due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
>>>omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
>>>
>>>Only time will tell...
>>>
>>>It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.

>>
>>How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
>>FUN to eat.
>>
>>gloria p

>
>
> Might work for some, but dad prefers high protein. His favorite food is
> Omelets and/or scrambled eggs. :-)


Cook them in plenty of butter and stir in a scoop of sour cream just
before they're done. It's an easy way to sneak in extra calories, and
the fat aids in vitamin absorbtion.

Also, as we age, our sense of smell weakens. And "taste" is mostly
about smell. Our tongues only process sweet, sour, salty, and bitter
(there are those who add a 5th category called ummami (sp?), aka funky,
like cheese or aged meats).

When a person's sense of smell starts to go you have to stimulate their
appetite by appealing to other senses - color, sound/sight (sizzling,
for example), texture.

An example presented to me by the dietary director of the SNF I worked
at as Controller was Cinnamon Apple Rings - peeled, cored apple slices
simmered with red hots (candy) until tender. Lovely bright color,
tender texture with just a little bite to it, sweet flavor with a little
heat which even nose-dead ex-smokers can perceive.

Comfort foods like mashed potatoes and gravy - use plenty of salt, plus
pepper for a little heat - go over well, and pumpkin pie offers a lot of
bang for the buck, as it includes yellow vegetable, eggs and dairy.

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In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Gloria P > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>>While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >>>
> >>>Caring for elderly parents.
> >>>
> >>>Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> >>>especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> >>>they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >>>
> >>>I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
> >>>to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements,
> >>
> >>>The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> >>>due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> >>>omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
> >>>
> >>>Only time will tell...
> >>>
> >>>It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> >>
> >>How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> >>FUN to eat.
> >>
> >>gloria p

> >
> >
> > Might work for some, but dad prefers high protein. His favorite food is
> > Omelets and/or scrambled eggs. :-)

>
> Cook them in plenty of butter and stir in a scoop of sour cream just
> before they're done. It's an easy way to sneak in extra calories, and
> the fat aids in vitamin absorbtion.
>
> Also, as we age, our sense of smell weakens. And "taste" is mostly
> about smell. Our tongues only process sweet, sour, salty, and bitter
> (there are those who add a 5th category called ummami (sp?), aka funky,
> like cheese or aged meats).


Yeah, his sense of smell is pretty much gone as far as I can tell, but
he seems to taste ok.

>
> When a person's sense of smell starts to go you have to stimulate their
> appetite by appealing to other senses - color, sound/sight (sizzling,
> for example), texture.
>
> An example presented to me by the dietary director of the SNF I worked
> at as Controller was Cinnamon Apple Rings - peeled, cored apple slices
> simmered with red hots (candy) until tender. Lovely bright color,
> tender texture with just a little bite to it, sweet flavor with a little
> heat which even nose-dead ex-smokers can perceive.


Oh he loves it when I make microwaved baked apples for him with cinnamon!

>
> Comfort foods like mashed potatoes and gravy - use plenty of salt, plus
> pepper for a little heat - go over well, and pumpkin pie offers a lot of
> bang for the buck, as it includes yellow vegetable, eggs and dairy.


I don't have the same problem Jill has with her mom yet with keeping
weight on him. I'm more concerned about overall nutrition. Vitamins,
minerals etc. Which is why I bought the Vionate.

I can add that to his food and it's flavorless for the most part.

He has had a couple of really bad Paranoid Dementia episodes (verbally
violent) if I don't make sure I keep up with that diligently!
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"He who has the guns can get the gold."
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Kathleen wrote:
> My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
> Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
> answer goes unsaid.



The best answer to those who go door to door asking if you've found Jesus is
"I didn't realize he was missing!"

Jill

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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
> > My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
> > Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
> > answer goes unsaid.

>
>
> The best answer to those who go door to door asking if you've found Jesus is
> "I didn't realize he was missing!"
>
> Jill


ROFL!! Good one Jill!
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Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
>>Kathleen wrote:
>>
>>>My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
>>>Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
>>>answer goes unsaid.

>>
>>
>>The best answer to those who go door to door asking if you've found Jesus is
>>"I didn't realize he was missing!"


These are little ones and hardly accountable for their upbringing. A
day at school shouldn't include nightmares about entarnable (sic) damnation.

On the other hand, I'd truly enjoy five minutes alone with their parents
and pastor. And a pin.



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Kathleen wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Gloria P > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>
>>>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>>>>
>>>> Caring for elderly parents.
>>>>
>>>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
>>>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the
>>>> "things" they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>>>>
>>>> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com)
>>>> to add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
>>>> supplements,
>>>
>>>> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty
>>>> texture due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab
>>>> and cheese omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not
>>>> bad. Only time will tell...
>>>>
>>>> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
>>>
>>> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
>>> FUN to eat.
>>>
>>> gloria p

>>
>>
>> Might work for some, but dad prefers high protein. His favorite
>> food is Omelets and/or scrambled eggs. :-)

>
> Cook them in plenty of butter and stir in a scoop of sour cream just
> before they're done. It's an easy way to sneak in extra calories, and
> the fat aids in vitamin absorbtion.
>

So says Gordon Ramsay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks

Creme fraiche

> Also, as we age, our sense of smell weakens. And "taste" is mostly
> about smell. Our tongues only process sweet, sour, salty, and bitter
> (there are those who add a 5th category called ummami (sp?), aka
> funky, like cheese or aged meats).
>
> When a person's sense of smell starts to go you have to stimulate
> their appetite by appealing to other senses - color, sound/sight
> (sizzling, for example), texture.
>

My father craved tomato everything. Mom can't stand anything "tomatoey".
There's no one answer.

> Comfort foods like mashed potatoes and gravy - use plenty of salt,
> plus pepper for a little heat - go over well, and pumpkin pie offers
> a lot of bang for the buck, as it includes yellow vegetable, eggs and
> dairy.


She loves mashed potatoes and things like cornbread dressing with gravy

Jill

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Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > Sheldon wrote:
> > > > I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> > > > suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> > > > Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
> > > >
> > > I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned stock in
> > > Ensure or Boost. Everyone kept asking does she drink it? No, she doesn't
> > > like it. Funny, when I said she drinks Instant Breakfast every day they all
> > > said "OH! okay, that's good!" Yes, it's fine. Add a little malted milk
> > > powder... yum!
> > >
> > > Jill

> >
> > Every time my (underweight) mother is in hospital, they try to give her
> > something like Ensure. She tried it once and spit it out, as did I LOL.
> > It's nasty stuff (as is Pediasure) stuffed full of artificial
> > flavourings.
> >
> > When I make bread, a little oil is added, although would prefer true
> > French-type white bread. Home-made custard-base ice cream and various
> > milk puddings (bread, rice, semolina etc) go down well. We make
> > gelatines which at least contain some protein to make up for the
> > artificial colours and flavours. Couldn't convince her to eat flavoured
> > Knox gelatine
> >
> > Now working on trying to make various cakes/pastries more nutritious!
> > Carrot and courgette/zucchini cake works well, as do fruit pastries.

>
> And can be cooked ahead and frozen. ;-)
> --
>



They don't seem to last long enough to bother freezing
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> The message >
> from "jmcquown" > contains these words:
>
> > Arri London wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > >> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch
> > >> topping
> > >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > Can you make some for her? Will have more nutrition in it than the
> > > supermarket airfoam and taste better too. Don't even need an ice cream
> > > maker..just stir it up from time to time as it freezes.

>
> > I've never made ice cream; I have no idea how to do it. The only kind
> > she'll eat is vanilla. Got a recipe/method?

>
> Terribly easy and as Arri says you don't need a machine (just take it
> out of the freezer before it sets solid, beat hard, return to freezer.)
> Lots of fat, protein, calcium, and calories..great for underweight
> people.
>
> http://www.ice-cream-recipes.com/ice...pe_vanilla.htm
>
> If you don't have vanilla pods just use essence.
>
> Even easier icecream; strawberries, sugar, cream. Beat strawberries
> and sugar together; stir in cream and mix, freeze.
>
> Janet.



That recipe is more or less how I make it, except one less egg yolk for
the custard.
We don't like the cream-only type ice cream as much but that might be
easier for Jill to make. Just sweeten the cream to taste, add vanilla
essence/extract to taste and freeze. Beat a couple of times as it
freezes and let it finish freezing.
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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
> > Omelet wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> Gloria P > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Omelet wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >>>>
> >>>> Caring for elderly parents.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> >>>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the
> >>>> "things" they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com)
> >>>> to add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
> >>>> supplements,
> >>>
> >>>> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty
> >>>> texture due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab
> >>>> and cheese omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not
> >>>> bad. Only time will tell...
> >>>>
> >>>> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> >>>
> >>> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> >>> FUN to eat.
> >>>
> >>> gloria p
> >>
> >>
> >> Might work for some, but dad prefers high protein. His favorite
> >> food is Omelets and/or scrambled eggs. :-)

> >
> > Cook them in plenty of butter and stir in a scoop of sour cream just
> > before they're done. It's an easy way to sneak in extra calories, and
> > the fat aids in vitamin absorbtion.
> >

> So says Gordon Ramsay:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks
>
> Creme fraiche
>
> > Also, as we age, our sense of smell weakens. And "taste" is mostly
> > about smell. Our tongues only process sweet, sour, salty, and bitter
> > (there are those who add a 5th category called ummami (sp?), aka
> > funky, like cheese or aged meats).
> >
> > When a person's sense of smell starts to go you have to stimulate
> > their appetite by appealing to other senses - color, sound/sight
> > (sizzling, for example), texture.
> >

> My father craved tomato everything. Mom can't stand anything "tomatoey".
> There's no one answer.
>
> > Comfort foods like mashed potatoes and gravy - use plenty of salt,
> > plus pepper for a little heat - go over well, and pumpkin pie offers
> > a lot of bang for the buck, as it includes yellow vegetable, eggs and
> > dairy.

>
> She loves mashed potatoes and things like cornbread dressing with gravy
>
> Jill


Sounds pretty easy to cook for so far. :-)
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> The message >
> from Omelet > contains these words:
>
>
> > I talk to Jesus once per month when he's mowing my lawn. <eg>

>
> Nice to know miracles still happen :-)
>
> Janet


It's handy living close to the border... ;-D
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> She loves mashed potatoes and things like cornbread dressing with
>> gravy
>>
>> Jill

>
> Sounds pretty easy to cook for so far. :-)



Yeah. Except as I mentioned in the cleaning up thread, I have to cook two
separate meals three times a day. That's no fun!

Jill

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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> She loves mashed potatoes and things like cornbread dressing with
> >> gravy
> >>
> >> Jill

> >
> > Sounds pretty easy to cook for so far. :-)

>
>
> Yeah. Except as I mentioned in the cleaning up thread, I have to cook two
> separate meals three times a day. That's no fun!
>
> Jill


She won't eat leftovers? See, that's one place I'm lucky with dad. He'll
eat the same thing for 3 to 5 days if it's good so I can batch cook.
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:17:46 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:
>
>> My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
>> Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
>> answer goes unsaid.

>
> I talk to Jesus once per month when he's mowing my lawn. <eg>


don't assume he's not expecting a tip.

your pal,
blake
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:17:46 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Kathleen > wrote:
> >
> >> My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
> >> Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
> >> answer goes unsaid.

> >
> > I talk to Jesus once per month when he's mowing my lawn. <eg>

>
> don't assume he's not expecting a tip.
>
> your pal,
> blake


:-)
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