We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. Planted
Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.

That changed this year.

The tenant is an older lady who isn't interested in getting out and
picking up fruit. So the wife has been going over there every few
days to pick up apples.

These are dwarf trees but we've gotten about four bushels of apples so
far, not counting the ones that had to be tossed onto the mulch pile.
Most are Fujis, they're outstanding in pies! We've made at least half
a dozen pies so far and have frozen several gallons of applesauce. And
of course, we've eaten a lot of 'em out of hand.

I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie (one-crust,
crumble topping) we make. Ambrosia!

Best -- Terry

Terry wrote:

> These are dwarf trees but we've gotten about four bushels of apples so
> far, not counting the ones that had to be tossed onto the mulch pile.
> Most are Fujis, they're outstanding in pies! We've made at least half
> a dozen pies so far and have frozen several gallons of applesauce. And
> of course, we've eaten a lot of 'em out of hand.
>
> I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie (one-crust,
> crumble topping) we make. Ambrosia!


color me jealous!!

Terry wrote:

> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. Planted
> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.

Red Delicious? Why? Unless homegrown Red Delicious are like, 100 x
better than what you buy in stores, why bother when there are dozens of
tastier varieties out there?

I consider the Red Delicious available locally, be they from the
supermarket or local groves, to be "apple-shaped objects"... Certainly
nothing I'd deliberately eat.

Kathleen wrote:
> Terry wrote:
>
>> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. Planted
>> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
>> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>
> Red Delicious? Why? Unless homegrown Red Delicious are like, 100 x
> better than what you buy in stores, why bother when there are dozens of
> tastier varieties out there?
>
> I consider the Red Delicious available locally, be they from the
> supermarket or local groves, to be "apple-shaped objects"... Certainly
> nothing I'd deliberately eat.
>
I agree on the red delicious. Fuji apples need another variety close by
for pollination. Yellow delicious is commonly used for that purpose.
Thats probably the job of the grafted yellow delicious in his case.

Terry wrote:
> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. �Planted
> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>
> That changed this year.
>
> The tenant is an older lady who isn't interested in getting out and
> picking up fruit. �So the wife has been going over there every few
> days to pick up apples.

"*The* wife", I bet even your dog has a name, you gotta be a redneck.


> I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie.

You'll try to remember... duh... are you really Duh'Wayne with a paper
bag over your head... anyone can glom pie pictures off the net.
Pictures of the trees full of apples might be more believable,
although there are plenty of apple tree pictures on the net too. Why
can't folks be honest and present their pictures right up front along
with their claims or just STFU... the fact that you made that remark
as an afterthought about you remember pictures is indicative of your
guilt, like you realized you would be doubted because everyone would
see your nose growing.

I know a family in Florida who bragged for months about some new
citrus trees they planted... I knew immediately they were lying
because they refered to "citrus" trees instead of indicating which
kind. So I asked for pictures. It took nearly two years... all I was
emailed were a few pictures of a couple of fruit on a branch with a
few leaves, taken with telephoto too, no background whatsoever
consistant with where they live, so heavily cropped I knew immediately
they were glommed off the net... and when I asked what kind of citrus
they never responded.

I think this winter I may begin saving those little stickers they slap
on produce, so next season when I post photos of my crop yoose will
see those stickers on my veggies and say I bought them. I'm supprised
no one has accused me of buying the produce in my pictures... they
can't... I always make it a point to include some indisputable
identifying evidence that they're mine that can't be reproduced by
anyone but me. And I've never made a post claiming to have done
something with the nebulous promise to post pictures at some later
date, that's what liars do. If yoose got pictures post them along
with the explanation. But don't blow smoke with you'll post pictures
IF you remember. I know, tomorrow you'll claim your camera is
broken... but you own two houses and all kinds of stuff and more than
anyone else but you can't afford a new camera, Duh'Wayne.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:27 -0500, Terry wrote:

> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. Planted
> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>
> That changed this year.
>
> The tenant is an older lady who isn't interested in getting out and
> picking up fruit. So the wife has been going over there every few days
> to pick up apples.
>
> These are dwarf trees but we've gotten about four bushels of apples so
> far, not counting the ones that had to be tossed onto the mulch pile.
> Most are Fujis, they're outstanding in pies! We've made at least half a
> dozen pies so far and have frozen several gallons of applesauce. And of
> course, we've eaten a lot of 'em out of hand.
>
> I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie (one-crust,
> crumble topping) we make. Ambrosia!
>
> Best -- Terry

Time to make some apple cider?

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:16:26 -0400, George >
wrote:

>Kathleen wrote:

>> Red Delicious? Why? Unless homegrown Red Delicious are like, 100 x
>> better than what you buy in stores, why bother when there are dozens of
>> tastier varieties out there?
>>
>> I consider the Red Delicious available locally, be they from the
>> supermarket or local groves, to be "apple-shaped objects"... Certainly
>> nothing I'd deliberately eat.
>>
>I agree on the red delicious. Fuji apples need another variety close by
>for pollination. Yellow delicious is commonly used for that purpose.
>Thats probably the job of the grafted yellow delicious in his case.

We planted the Red Delicious and a Granny smith about fifteen years
ago, those being the varieties we liked at that time (we didn't have a
lot of experience with other varieties). If memory serves, the Fuji
dwarf trees weren't available for a couple years or so afterward.

George is correct, the YD was there to pollinate---though that was
also the job of the RD. YD will self-pollinate and will pollinate
other varieties, but my understanding of pollinators is 'the more the
merrier'.

Best -- Terry

George wrote:
> Kathleen wrote:
> > Terry wrote:
>
> >> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. �Planted
> >> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
> >> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>
> > Red Delicious? �Why? �Unless homegrown Red Delicious are like, 100 x
> > better than what you buy in stores, why bother when there are dozens of
> > tastier varieties out there?
>
> > I consider the Red Delicious available locally, be they from the
> > supermarket or local groves, to be "apple-shaped objects"... �Certainly
> > nothing I'd deliberately eat.
>
> I agree on the red delicious. Fuji apples need another variety close by
> for pollination. Yellow delicious is commonly used for that purpose.
> Thats probably the job of the grafted yellow delicious in his case.

Nope. Apple trees are always grafted, that's the only way to produce
true to form fruit. And most all apple trees need a pollinator. The
red delicious I buy from local orchards are excellent, but when
purchased out of season they are very poor quality... delicious apples
do not store well and because the distributors know this they do not
horde the biggest and best for selling many weeks and months later,
they sell them quickly while they can command hight prices. They bag
up the smallest and those picked prematurely and sell them at low
prices hoping to be rid of them quickly. As with many food products
the best apples and the best of all fruit commands the best prices so
those are reserved for fancy schmancy restaurants, classy hotels,
cruise ships, caterers, premium priced mail order companys like
David's, etc. Unless you live in an apple growing region you're not
going to find quality apples unless you're willing to pay premium
prices... NY State apples are probably the best on the planet, but
still there are only a few weeks when quality delicious apples are
available, all other times only those small heavily waxed tasteless
mealy ones are available. Delicious apples are not pie apples in any
case. Delicious apples make the best Waldorf Salad.


Waldorf salad [WAWL-dorf]
Created at New York's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in the 1890s, the original
version of this salad contained only apples, celery and mayonnaise.
Chopped walnuts later became an integral part of the dish. Waldorf
salad is usually served on top of a bed of lettuce.

� Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.

Sheldon wrote:
>
> As with many food products
> the best apples and the best of all fruit commands the best prices so
> those are reserved for fancy schmancy restaurants, classy hotels,
> cruise ships, caterers, premium priced mail order companys like
> David's, etc. Unless you live in an apple growing region you're not
> going to find quality apples unless you're willing to pay premium
> prices... NY State apples are probably the best on the planet, but
> still there are only a few weeks when quality delicious apples are
> available, all other times only those small heavily waxed tasteless
> mealy ones are available.

And Japan. Lots of the best produce goes to Japan,
especially at the beginning of the season. The
California cherry crop appears in Japan about two
weeks before it appears in California supermarkets.

Of course, that's because Japanese consumers are
willing to pay $80 for a box of perfect cherries,
neatly arranged and packaged.

Je�us wrote:
>
> Time to make some apple cider?

Applejack.

http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~goodwine/applejack.htm

Uh... Sheldon? I can see you're really upset about something. I
honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and
think things over...

Terry


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
wrote:

>Terry wrote:
>> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. ?Planted
>> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
>> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>>
>> That changed this year.
>>
>> The tenant is an older lady who isn't interested in getting out and
>> picking up fruit. ?So the wife has been going over there every few
>> days to pick up apples.
>
>"*The* wife", I bet even your dog has a name, you gotta be a redneck.
>
>
>> I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie.
>
>You'll try to remember... duh... are you really Duh'Wayne with a paper
>bag over your head... anyone can glom pie pictures off the net.
>Pictures of the trees full of apples might be more believable,
>although there are plenty of apple tree pictures on the net too. Why
>can't folks be honest and present their pictures right up front along
>with their claims or just STFU... the fact that you made that remark
>as an afterthought about you remember pictures is indicative of your
>guilt, like you realized you would be doubted because everyone would
>see your nose growing.
>
>I know a family in Florida who bragged for months about some new
>citrus trees they planted... I knew immediately they were lying
>because they refered to "citrus" trees instead of indicating which
>kind. So I asked for pictures. It took nearly two years... all I was
>emailed were a few pictures of a couple of fruit on a branch with a
>few leaves, taken with telephoto too, no background whatsoever
>consistant with where they live, so heavily cropped I knew immediately
>they were glommed off the net... and when I asked what kind of citrus
>they never responded.
>
>I think this winter I may begin saving those little stickers they slap
>on produce, so next season when I post photos of my crop yoose will
>see those stickers on my veggies and say I bought them. I'm supprised
>no one has accused me of buying the produce in my pictures... they
>can't... I always make it a point to include some indisputable
>identifying evidence that they're mine that can't be reproduced by
>anyone but me. And I've never made a post claiming to have done
>something with the nebulous promise to post pictures at some later
>date, that's what liars do. If yoose got pictures post them along
>with the explanation. But don't blow smoke with you'll post pictures
>IF you remember. I know, tomorrow you'll claim your camera is
>broken... but you own two houses and all kinds of stuff and more than
>anyone else but you can't afford a new camera, Duh'Wayne.
>
>

"Terry" > wrote in message
...
> Uh... Sheldon? I can see you're really upset about something. I
> honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and
> think things over...
>

No, Terry, he's just out of his ****ing mind.


>
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon >
> wrote:
>
>>Terry wrote:
>>> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. ?Planted
>>> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
>>> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>>>
>>> That changed this year.
>>>
>>> The tenant is an older lady who isn't interested in getting out and
>>> picking up fruit. ?So the wife has been going over there every few
>>> days to pick up apples.
>>
>>"*The* wife", I bet even your dog has a name, you gotta be a redneck.
>>
>>
>>> I'll try to remember to take a picture of the next pie.
>>
>>You'll try to remember... duh... are you really Duh'Wayne with a paper
>>bag over your head... anyone can glom pie pictures off the net.
>>Pictures of the trees full of apples might be more believable,
>>although there are plenty of apple tree pictures on the net too. Why
>>can't folks be honest and present their pictures right up front along
>>with their claims or just STFU... the fact that you made that remark
>>as an afterthought about you remember pictures is indicative of your
>>guilt, like you realized you would be doubted because everyone would
>>see your nose growing.
>>
>>I know a family in Florida who bragged for months about some new
>>citrus trees they planted... I knew immediately they were lying
>>because they refered to "citrus" trees instead of indicating which
>>kind. So I asked for pictures. It took nearly two years... all I was
>>emailed were a few pictures of a couple of fruit on a branch with a
>>few leaves, taken with telephoto too, no background whatsoever
>>consistant with where they live, so heavily cropped I knew immediately
>>they were glommed off the net... and when I asked what kind of citrus
>>they never responded.
>>
>>I think this winter I may begin saving those little stickers they slap
>>on produce, so next season when I post photos of my crop yoose will
>>see those stickers on my veggies and say I bought them. I'm supprised
>>no one has accused me of buying the produce in my pictures... they
>>can't... I always make it a point to include some indisputable
>>identifying evidence that they're mine that can't be reproduced by
>>anyone but me. And I've never made a post claiming to have done
>>something with the nebulous promise to post pictures at some later
>>date, that's what liars do. If yoose got pictures post them along
>>with the explanation. But don't blow smoke with you'll post pictures
>>IF you remember. I know, tomorrow you'll claim your camera is
>>broken... but you own two houses and all kinds of stuff and more than
>>anyone else but you can't afford a new camera, Duh'Wayne.
>>
>>

Sheldon wrote:
> George wrote:
>> Kathleen wrote:
>>> Terry wrote:
>>>> We have a second house that used to be our primary residence. �Planted
>>>> Red Delicious (grafted a Yellow Delicious onto it) and Fuji trees. The
>>>> doggone things never produced much over the last ten years.
>>> Red Delicious? �Why? �Unless homegrown Red Delicious are like, 100 x
>>> better than what you buy in stores, why bother when there are dozens of
>>> tastier varieties out there?
>>> I consider the Red Delicious available locally, be they from the
>>> supermarket or local groves, to be "apple-shaped objects"... �Certainly
>>> nothing I'd deliberately eat.
>> I agree on the red delicious. Fuji apples need another variety close by
>> for pollination. Yellow delicious is commonly used for that purpose.
>> Thats probably the job of the grafted yellow delicious in his case.
>
> Nope. Apple trees are always grafted, that's the only way to produce
> true to form fruit.


Nope what? I didn't claim anything about grafting and some apple trees
need other species as pollinators and some don't. Fuji needs another
species.

And most all apple trees need a pollinator. The
> red delicious I buy from local orchards are excellent, but when
> purchased out of season they are very poor quality... delicious apples
> do not store well and because the distributors know this they do not
> horde the biggest and best for selling many weeks and months later,
> they sell them quickly while they can command hight prices. They bag
> up the smallest and those picked prematurely and sell them at low
> prices hoping to be rid of them quickly. As with many food products
> the best apples and the best of all fruit commands the best prices so
> those are reserved for fancy schmancy restaurants, classy hotels,
> cruise ships, caterers, premium priced mail order companys like
> David's, etc. Unless you live in an apple growing region you're not
> going to find quality apples unless you're willing to pay premium
> prices... NY State apples are probably the best on the planet, but
> still there are only a few weeks when quality delicious apples are
> available, all other times only those small heavily waxed tasteless
> mealy ones are available. Delicious apples are not pie apples in any
> case. Delicious apples make the best Waldorf Salad.
>
>
> Waldorf salad [WAWL-dorf]
> Created at New York's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in the 1890s, the original
> version of this salad contained only apples, celery and mayonnaise.
> Chopped walnuts later became an integral part of the dish. Waldorf
> salad is usually served on top of a bed of lettuce.
>
> � Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
> LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.