amandaF wrote:
> On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> amandaF > wrote:
>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>
> Here come another ...
>
> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>
>

Wow. You even beat me out for the defensiveness award.

I (normally but not right now) live in Southern italy...lots of roasted
veggies and meats there. Pastas with tomato based sauces...it's really
not that difficult to find these things when not in Italy. I lived in
Japan for 4 years and did well at cooking all types of regional food.

"cybercat" wrote:
>
> No, Amanda. They would not. Your posts have been nearly incoherent.

Actually Amanda expresses herself far more accurately than you do...
you are incabable it appears of writing a properly constructed
sentence.

What's with your baby talk:
"No, Amanda."

"They would not."

"Your posts have been nearly incoherent."

CyberRetard, yours is the writing style of someone with so few
functioning brain cells that you can't retain more than a couple of
words so you have to quickly place the period and clear your widdle
memory before attempting the next incomplete thought. Sheesh,
CyberRetard, but you are so uneducated.

amandaF > wrote:

> On Nov 3, 3:59 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> amandaF > wrote:
>>> On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>> amandaF > wrote:
>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>
>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>
>>> Here come another ...
>>
>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>
>> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>> coherently.
>
> Anyone with common sense would know that I am only familiar with the
> Italian food in American restaurants.

I give up trying to understand what this has to do with low-fat
eating.

-sw

Sheldon > wrote:

> Actually Amanda expresses herself far more accurately than you do...
> you are incabable it appears of writing a properly constructed
> sentence.

And your sentence above is a shining example of the English language
and punctuation?

-sw

cshenk wrote:
> "Sqwertz" wrote
>> amandaF wrote:
>
>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>> Here come another ...
>>>
>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>> coherently.
>
> What part of she likes italian but isnt sure how to do some of it right was
> not clear?
> Her english is excellent. Not native, no, but perfectly understandable.
>
>

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I wonder how well the critic would do
speaking whatever the native language of the criticized person might be?

cybercat wrote:
> "amandaF" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Nov 3, 3:59 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>> amandaF > wrote:
>>>> On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>> amandaF > wrote:
>>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>>> Here come another ...
>>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>>> coherently.
>>>
>>> -sw
>> Anyone with common sense would know that I am only familiar with the
>> Italian food in American restaurants.
>
> No, Amanda. They would not. Your posts have been nearly incoherent.
>
>
Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
everything she wrote.

George > wrote:

> Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
> everything she wrote.

Look at her first post to this thread.

She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.

And i"m still trying to figure out if she's 'good looking' or not.

I wasn't criticizing her English - just her thought process.

-sw

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:12:07 -0500, cshenk wrote:

> "Sqwertz" wrote
>> amandaF wrote:
>
>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>>
>>> Here come another ...
>>>
>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>
>> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>> coherently.
>
> What part of she likes italian but isnt sure how to do some of it right was
> not clear?
> Her english is excellent. Not native, no, but perfectly understandable.

'excellent'? they must be pretty easy graders where you come from.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:32:24 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

> Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> Actually Amanda expresses herself far more accurately than you do...
>> you are incabable it appears of writing a properly constructed
>> sentence.
>
> And your sentence above is a shining example of the English language
> and punctuation?
>
> -sw

tips from sheldon on the art of prose and english usage are always a
delight.

your pal,
blake

On Nov 3, 8:45 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 3:19 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> >> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> >> amandaF > wrote:
> >> >> > Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
> >> >> > rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>
> >> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
> >> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>
> >> > Here come another ...
>
> >> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
> >> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>
> >> Just curious--what is your first language? Your native language?
>
> > I do not want to share this info in newsgroups.
>
> Honey, it is pretty obvious that you cannot write English very well. If it
> is your native language, you need to slow down and take more care with your
> posts so that your posts are understandable. If it is not, you need to slow
> down and take more care with your posts so that we can understand them.

Blah..blah..blah..

On Nov 3, 8:45 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 3:59 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> amandaF > wrote:
> >> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> >> amandaF > wrote:
> >> >>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
> >> >>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>
> >> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
> >> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>
> >> > Here come another ...
>
> >> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
> >> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>
> >> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
> >> coherently.
>
> >> -sw
>
> > Anyone with common sense would know that I am only familiar with the
> > Italian food in American restaurants.
>
> No, Amanda. They would not. Your posts have been nearly incoherent.

Then, don't read and much less ..reply. Let someone else who is smart
enough to understand a foreigner (if there is any) reply. In fact,
if Americans in general wants to compete in the global market, stop
complaining how others speak and write English and learn to understand
them.

"amandaF" > wrote in message
...
> On Nov 3, 8:45 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 3, 3:19 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> >> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >> >> amandaF > wrote:
>> >> >> > Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain
>> >> >> > dishes
>> >> >> > rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>
>> >> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>> >> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>
>> >> > Here come another ...
>>
>> >> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well.
>> >> > Has
>> >> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>
>> >> Just curious--what is your first language? Your native language?
>>
>> > I do not want to share this info in newsgroups.
>>
>> Honey, it is pretty obvious that you cannot write English very well. If
>> it
>> is your native language, you need to slow down and take more care with
>> your
>> posts so that your posts are understandable. If it is not, you need to
>> slow
>> down and take more care with your posts so that we can understand them.
>
> Blah..blah..blah..

Well, you expressed that well enough.

lol

On Nov 4, 3:55 am, ravenlynne > wrote:
> amandaF wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> amandaF > wrote:
> >>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
> >>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>
> > Here come another ...
>
> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>
> Wow. You even beat me out for the defensiveness award.
>
> I (normally but not right now) live in Southern italy...lots of roasted
> veggies and meats there. Pastas with tomato based sauces...it's really
> not that difficult to find these things when not in Italy. I lived in
> Japan for 4 years and did well at cooking all types of regional food.

Here comes another air head. haven't I told you people that I was in
graduate school tow times- that's two different degrees in two
different fields and I am not talking about psychology major or
History major. I do not have the fxxx'n time that you had to spend
time learning one regional cooking after another. I learn what I want
to eat (and good for my well being) that's also is practical time-wise
(by time-wise, I mean.based on my lifestyle, not yours) .

Why do average brains always act like they are smart?Answer: Because
they are dumb.

On Nov 4, 6:20 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> George > wrote:
> > Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
> > everything she wrote.
>
> Look at her first post to this thread.
>
> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
come out Italin.
>
> And i"m still trying to figure out if she's 'good looking' or not.
Why ? You have too much time on your hand and have no life?
>
> I wasn't criticizing her English - just her thought process.
My thought process? You try to figure out my thought process based on
a few posts of mien you see in rfc? What about if I show you my
posts in alt.certification.cisco? Would that help you? Sheesh..
>
> -sw

"amandaF" schrieb :
> On Nov 3, 8:45 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 3, 3:59 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >> amandaF > wrote:
>> >> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >> >> amandaF > wrote:
>> >> >>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>> >> >>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>
>> >> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>> >> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>
>> >> > Here come another ...
>>
>> >> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>> >> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>
>> >> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>> >> coherently.
>>
>> >> -sw
>>
>> > Anyone with common sense would know that I am only familiar with the
>> > Italian food in American restaurants.
>>
If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
answers.

>> No, Amanda. They would not. Your posts have been nearly incoherent.
>
> Then, don't read and much less ..reply. Let someone else who is smart
> enough to understand a foreigner (if there is any) reply. In fact,
> if Americans in general wants to compete in the global market, stop
> complaining how others speak and write English and learn to understand
> them.

I've got no problem with your English.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

>
> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
> answers.
Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
just go to a fine restaurant and have it.

food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
be some soup.
>
>
> I've got no problem with your English.

The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
attention.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mihael Kuettner

"amandaF" > wrote in message
...
> On Nov 4, 3:55 am, ravenlynne > wrote:
>> amandaF wrote:
>> > On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >> amandaF > wrote:
>> >>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>> >>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>> >> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>> >> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>
>> > Here come another ...
>>
>> > I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>> > practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>
>> Wow. You even beat me out for the defensiveness award.
>>
>> I (normally but not right now) live in Southern italy...lots of roasted
>> veggies and meats there. Pastas with tomato based sauces...it's really
>> not that difficult to find these things when not in Italy. I lived in
>> Japan for 4 years and did well at cooking all types of regional food.
>
> Here comes another air head.

Amanda--reread your first posts. Now that you are putting forth a bit of
effort, you are indeed intelligible, if not intelligent. But your earlier
posts?




***************************
From: amandaF >
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat
dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil



>"Here come another ...

>I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?"

You sound like a complete idiot. It it is not a language problem, then
you're careless.

Moreover, it's rude to not be willing to make the effort to post
intelligibly.

In conclusion, you're an asshole.

Thank you, and good luck with that.

"amandaF" > wrote in message
...
> On Nov 4, 6:20 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> George > wrote:
>> > Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
>> > everything she wrote.
>>
>> Look at her first post to this thread.
>>
>> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
>> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.
>
> It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
> knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
> cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
> also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
> would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
> come out Italin.


And how were people supposed to know you are an Asian living in the US??
How exactly are people supposed to know all of that until you tell them?
For someone who claims to be educated you're not using much common sense
yourself.

Ms P

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "amandaF" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Nov 4, 6:20 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>> George > wrote:
>>> > Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
>>> > everything she wrote.
>>>
>>> Look at her first post to this thread.
>>>
>>> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
>>> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
>> knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
>> cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
>> also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
>> would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
>> come out Italin.
>
>
> And how were people supposed to know you are an Asian living in the US??
> How exactly are people supposed to know all of that until you tell them?
> For someone who claims to be educated you're not using much common sense
> yourself.
>

Her brain is apparently "so above average" that she cannot be bothered to
write intelligibly, in English or likely any other language.

"amandaF" schrieb :
>
A little hint : Please leave the name of the poster you're replying
to in your answer.

>>
>> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
>> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
>> answers.
> Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.

Ah, that would be Northern Italian dishes.
Dishes like gnocchi with sage-butter ?

> There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
> where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
> I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
> just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>
Well, if you find a dish that you want to try to cook yourself, just ask here.

> food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
> very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
> is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
> I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
> I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
> be some soup.
>>
What's the Persian kabob like ?
You see, there are more kebabs or kabobs out there than I can count ;-)

>>
>> I've got no problem with your English.
>
> The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
> minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
> attention.
>
Don't let them get to you. Calm down and relax and use your killfile.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Nov 4, 12:42 pm, "Michael Kuettner" > wrote:
> "amandaF" schrieb :
>
> A little hint : Please leave the name of the poster you're replying
> to in your answer.

Sorry..
>
>
>
> >> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
> >> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
> >> answers.
> > Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
>
> Ah, that would be Northern Italian dishes.
> Dishes like gnocchi with sage-butter ?

I don't remember the name; the description did say butter and may be
sage. I forgot. I have never found the same exact dish at any other
Italian restaurant that I have been to.
>
> > There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
> > where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
> > I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
> > just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>
> Well, if you find a dish that you want to try to cook yourself, just ask here.
Sure will....there to be more than one if I ever want to cook Italian.
The cost of the fresh ingredient (especially if I don't plan to cook
often and) and the time wouldn't be worth it.
>
> > food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
> > very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
> > is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
> > I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
> > I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
> > be some soup.
>
> What's the Persian kabob like ?
I don't know how to describe in words. It's not spicy but quite
different taste than any other I have had.

> You see, there are more kebabs or kabobs out there than I can count ;-)
>
>
>
> >> I've got no problem with your English.
>
> > The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
> > minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
> > attention.
>
> Don't let them get to you. Calm down and relax and use your killfile.

I will. I was just too busy..

>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

amandaF wrote:
>> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
>> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
>> answers.
> Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
> There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
> where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
> I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
> just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>
> food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
> very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
> is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
> I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
> I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
> be some soup.
>>
>> I've got no problem with your English.
>
> The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
> minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
> attention.

I have no problem understanding you. I also think your opinion about why
people are picking on your writing is correct.


>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mihael Kuettner

cybercat wrote:
> "amandaF" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Nov 4, 3:55 am, ravenlynne > wrote:
>>> amandaF wrote:
>>>> On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>> amandaF > wrote:
>>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>>> Here come another ...
>>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>> Wow. You even beat me out for the defensiveness award.
>>>
>>> I (normally but not right now) live in Southern italy...lots of roasted
>>> veggies and meats there. Pastas with tomato based sauces...it's really
>>> not that difficult to find these things when not in Italy. I lived in
>>> Japan for 4 years and did well at cooking all types of regional food.
>> Here comes another air head.
>
> Amanda--reread your first posts. Now that you are putting forth a bit of
> effort, you are indeed intelligible, if not intelligent. But your earlier
> posts?
>
>
>
>
> ***************************
> From: amandaF >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> Subject: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat
> dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil
>
>
>
>> "Here come another ...
>
>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?"
>
> You sound like a complete idiot. It it is not a language problem, then
> you're careless.
>
> Moreover, it's rude to not be willing to make the effort to post
> intelligibly.
>
> In conclusion, you're an asshole.
>
> Thank you, and good luck with that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
You really just demonstrated very clearly what you are all about.

"George" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "amandaF" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Nov 4, 3:55 am, ravenlynne > wrote:
>>>> amandaF wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 3, 3:33 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>>> amandaF > wrote:
>>>>>>> Again, no offense to anyone; just sharing why I make certain dishes
>>>>>>> rather than eating my favorite cuisine all the time: Italian.
>>>>>> Sounds like you've invented a paranoid solution to a non-problem
>>>>>> (kinda like a drawn-out Americas's Test Kitch
>>>>> Here come another ...
>>>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>>> Wow. You even beat me out for the defensiveness award.
>>>>
>>>> I (normally but not right now) live in Southern italy...lots of roasted
>>>> veggies and meats there. Pastas with tomato based sauces...it's really
>>>> not that difficult to find these things when not in Italy. I lived in
>>>> Japan for 4 years and did well at cooking all types of regional food.
>>> Here comes another air head.
>>
>> Amanda--reread your first posts. Now that you are putting forth a bit of
>> effort, you are indeed intelligible, if not intelligent. But your earlier
>> posts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***************************
>> From: amandaF >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>> Subject: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein
>> non-eat
>> dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Here come another ...
>>
>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?"
>>
>> You sound like a complete idiot. It it is not a language problem, then
>> you're careless.
>>
>> Moreover, it's rude to not be willing to make the effort to post
>> intelligibly.
>>
>> In conclusion, you're an asshole.
>>
>> Thank you, and good luck with that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You really just demonstrated very clearly what you are all about.

Right. She's an ass who could not be bothered to post so that people could
understand what she is saying, and when I asked, in the midst of others
flaming her, if English was her second language, she flamed me.

You're an asshole too.

"George" > wrote in message
...
> amandaF wrote:
>>> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
>>> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
>>> answers.
>> Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
>> There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
>> where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
>> I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
>> just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>>
>> food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
>> very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
>> is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
>> I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
>> I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
>> be some soup.
>>>
>>> I've got no problem with your English.
>>
>> The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
>> minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
>> attention.
>
> I have no problem understanding you. I also think your opinion about why
> people are picking on your writing is correct.
>

Nobody was "picking on her," for ****'s sake. ALL I did was ask if English
was her second language, so that I might be able to attribute something
aside from carelessness to her unintelligible posts. She responded by
flaming me. In what way is it a flame to ask "Is English your second
language?"

What Asshole Amanda F. has demonstrated, Asshole George, is that when she
tries, she actually *can* write intelligible English. But before that, this
stupid bitch had to get aggressive with everyone who was trying to help her.

Please try to keep up.

And get over the fact that your guy is going to lose, while you're at it.

lol

amandaF > wrote:

> On Nov 4, 6:20 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> George > wrote:
>>> Frankly you are just being a ridiculous nitpicker. I can understand
>>> everything she wrote.
>>
>> Look at her first post to this thread.
>>
>> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
>> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.
>
> It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
> knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
> cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
> also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
> would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
> come out Italin.

I give up. I still have no idea WTF this has to do with low-fat ea

> My thought process? You try to figure out my thought process based on
> a few posts of mien you see in rfc? What about if I show you my
> posts in alt.certification.cisco? Would that help you? Sheesh..

Wow. A CNE (or somebody trying to be a CNE). Aren't they ..like..
a dime a dozen nowadays? I'm an SCO ACE since we're trying to brag,
and you can see my posts in comp.sco.unix.misc. So
LA_DEE_****ING-DA! But I got out of that business a few years ago.

-sw

amandaF > wrote:

> The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
> minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
> attention.

Like I said - I have no problems with your English. The problem
comes from trying to express your point.

What does your post regarding eating low fat have to do with why you
don't eat Italian? There are plenty of low-fat Italian dishes you
can eat. You probably wont find them at at Olive Garden though.

-sw

Michael Kuettner > wrote:

> I've got no problem with your English.

Spoken like a true hillbilly. Leave out the word "got" next time.

-sw

"cybercat" wrote
> "amandaF" wrote:

>>> Just curious--what is your first language? Your native language?
>>
>> Why do you need/want to know?
>
> Because your writing is very hard to understand.

Really? Not that i can't understand you POV if so, but then I guess I've
worked with many people for whome english was a second language. I have no
problem understanding her at all, though made some mistaken impression due
to a turn of phrase here and there.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> "cybercat" wrote
>> "amandaF" wrote:
>
>>>> Just curious--what is your first language? Your native language?
>>>
>>> Why do you need/want to know?
>>
>> Because your writing is very hard to understand.
>
> Really? Not that i can't understand you POV if so, but then I guess I've
> worked with many people for whome english was a second language. I have
> no problem understanding her at all, though made some mistaken impression
> due to a turn of phrase here and there.
>
>

Please try to keep up. The issue is no longer Asshole Amanda's command of
English, it is the fact that she could not bother to take the time to write
intelligible English, then flamed everyone who tried to help her, or find a
way to understand her.

The issue is that Amanda is an arrogant asshole who is demanding help here,
goddamnit. So you go right ahead, help this stupid bitch. I think I will
pass.

"amandaF" wrote

>> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
>> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.
>
> It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
> knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
> cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
> also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
> would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
> come out Italin.

Grin, logical to me. There are 2 things that a person on a fairly high
protein diet needs to avoid excess of to maintain good weight. Those are
excess fats (reasonable amounts fine) and excess starch. The Italian sorts
of foods you saw here are probably (reasonable guess? Tell me if I am
wrong?) Highish in pastas, possibly breads, and maybe cheeses (a fat type
you may want to control at least somewhat).

I don't see anything odd. How big or small you are isnt relevant. It was
clearly expressed as not wanting to get bigger than your current size. That
could be anyplace from a size 3 to a 2x for all I care. The desire is the
same regardless and so would be the general advice.

I'd start sending you real recipes, with helpful tips, only I'm pressed for
time the next 4 days due to work. If you would prefer (and are comfortable
with it) we can take it to email. My address is not munged. There i could
send you say, 10 seemingly suitable Italian-American recipes and see if some
of them spark your fancy, then narrow down to a better set with those
results.

I can probably hit just about any dietary need you have as long as i know
enough to be right in what you find acceptable. I note meat is definately
on the menu, and so far havent seen any specific types avoided. (Pork is a
common one and I need know only if you avoid it, not why unless you wanted
to mention it).

I can of course send the recipes here too. If I do that, more can see them
and may find some use for a few of them.

BTW, the best ever Italian I ever had was in the Centraza Hotel in Fukuoka
Japan, Kyushu island, Fukuoka prefecture. It was a mildly fusioned Italian,
set to enhance those portions of the cuisine the Japanese found most
palatable. Wish I had the recipes! Best Korean? In a little hole in the
wall place in my own Norfolk VA area, now sadly closed. usion is when you
sorta mix and match what's local to some other place taking hopefully, the
best of both along.

I find true italian cookery, a bit bland. American's tend to spice it up a
bit more and may even be adding non-authentic spices in there. Like, Zaatar
based spagetti sauce ;-)

"amandaF" wrote

> Then, don't read and much less ..reply. Let someone else who is smart
> enough to understand a foreigner (if there is any) reply. In fact,
> if Americans in general wants to compete in the global market, stop
> complaining how others speak and write English and learn to understand
> them.

BWAHAHAHA!! Now the Fat's in the fire! (Americanism, meaning it's now
sizzling and popping like crazy and getting all loud and stuff).

Keep in mind that not all of us are the same. Lots of nice folks, even some
of the ones you are talking to when they are on a different subject (or in a
different group).

"amandaF" wrote

>> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
>> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
>> answers.

> Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
> There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
> where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
> I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
> just go to a fine restaurant and have it.

Would you be thinking Buttered Scampi on lingiune? (sorry, cant spell well
but I think you can make it out)

"Michael Kuettner" wrote
> "amandaF" schrieb :

> A little hint : Please leave the name of the poster you're replying
> to in your answer.

Yeah, helps but I trim them on reply to just the critical ones. I think it
may be the newsgroup she's used to (Cisco etc) where the attributes are
normally removed.

>>> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
>>> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
>>> answers.
>> Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
>
> Ah, that would be Northern Italian dishes.
> Dishes like gnocchi with sage-butter ?

Ohh! Might be! I went for simpler query, being more familiar with what
passes for 'Italian' here generally. She may be going to the fancier places
though so gnocchi might be on the menu as well.

>> There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
>> where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
>> I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
>> just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>>
> Well, if you find a dish that you want to try to cook yourself, just ask
> here.

I might bug ya too so beware ;-)

>> food in Indian restaurant - there is one I really like; they have a
>> very nice buffet - are so salty that I have to give up going there It
>> is not worth it for me to order from the menu expect for kabobs which
>> I love. But then, for Kabobs, I prefer Persian. In fact, that is what
>> I plan to learn..only Kabob though, not other Persian dish..except may
>> be some soup.

> What's the Persian kabob like ?
> You see, there are more kebabs or kabobs out there than I can count ;-)

I think (am not sure) it's more related to the Schwarma type but in smaller
cubes on a stick? Perhaps shaved off the 'cone' then mounted with veggies.
Seems to spark a memory of someone else who told me about them. Spicing was
a dry rub in that version but I forget just what was in it other than it had
at least one spice USA folks might add sugar to, but they didnt. (think
cinnimon, nutmeg etc).

Then again, I may be *way* off base!

>>> I've got no problem with your English.
>>
>> The ones who are complaining, picking on my English, are the narrow-
>> minded ones who have nothing else going on in their lives need/wanting
>> attention.
>>
> Don't let them get to you. Calm down and relax and use your killfile.

Agreed. For me, other than ocasionally ****ing off or ****ing on, Sheldon
(and he and i get along as often as not if reading the same thread), I
pretty much get along with everyone.

Call me wierd ;-)

"blake murphy" wrote
> cshenk wrote:

>>>> I am not in Italy and I am not Italian to cook their dished well. Has
>>>> practicality ever entered you people's mind before criticizing?
>>>
>>> I don't think whatever point you were trying to make come across
>>> coherently.
>>
>> What part of she likes italian but isnt sure how to do some of it right
>> was
>> not clear?
>> Her english is excellent. Not native, no, but perfectly understandable.
>
> 'excellent'? they must be pretty easy graders where you come from.

Blake, I didnt indicate there were not things where a person who grew up
speaking the language would find 'odd', but that she is perfectly
understandable. I also dont have a problem if she does confuse me, in just
asking her to rephrase it if I didnt get the meaning the first time.

It had honestly not occured to me til now, but it could be I've been working
and speaking with so many 'English came second' for ages, I may have
absorbed a way of reading that makes it easier for me.

When I was a child in Miami FL, years before the state pretty much went
bilingual, they used to assign a kid with good spoken skills in english to a
new to USA spanish speaker. I was one of the ones used. My grammer is not
impeccable, nor is my spelling, but I learned to untangle somewhat 'strange'
grammer to find the meaning real early.

Is it really possible I have no problem understanding her due to this? That
the others who understand as well have some multi-lingual association making
it the same?

Or are some making it an excuse to not bother? I can't tell. When you are
dang near 50 and a skill comes to play that you learned when 8 and added to
through the years ever after, it's hard to tell if it's just 'you' or if
something is really wrong.

Oh, one 'PS': I have dyslexia. That means no one should take spelling
lessons from me. I assure you and all others, I'm obviously functional
around it.

"cybercat" wrote

> Right. She's an ass who could not be bothered to post so that people could
> understand what she is saying, and when I asked, in the midst of others
> flaming her, if English was her second language, she flamed me.

I didn't see any flames, just a 'why do you ask' then an answer that she
didnt want to post in a public venue, what her first language was.

That her right. Just like I asked if she found pork acceptable, I see no
answer. I didnt ask if it was religion or other based, just needed to know
so I could send suitable recipes to her is all.

Imagine a post from someone in Israeal. They'd more likely than not be
either Islamic or Jewish. Neither eat pork. You'd just ask if pork was on
or off the menu. If she were on eof the religions that dont allow beef,
you'd ask before you sent a grunch of beef recipes right?

My first presumption that she might be from India is not accurate, but Asia
is (and pretty sure not japan). That means a gamut of foods she may or may
not find acceptable. She may eat everything that doesnt fly, crawl, or run
faster than her, or she may have limits on some of them. Why is her own
business if she doesnt want to say, but I've asked just so I can set up a
few recipes for her. I didnt ask 'why' but I asked 'what'. The 'what' is
all I need to send out a few recipes.

There's a difference in our view here.

To flesh this out: Lets say I asked for a low sugar jam. Probably most
would 'assume' I was diabetic. I'm not but that would be very reasonable as
most who ask for such are. I might reply, 'no I am not diabetic but need
low sugar'. Next person in line assumes I'm a behemoth trying to lose
weight (grin). I object and tell'em no and the fight is on!

On Nov 4, 4:54 pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "amandaF" wrote
>
> >> She goes on about low-fat eating, then says that's why she doesn't
> >> eat (NOT cooking) Italian. It doesn't make any sense.
>
> > It doesn't make sense to average brain like yours. Most people, upon
> > knowing that I am an Asian living in US, would know that the Italian
> > cuisine I have been exposed to is the one in the restaurants in US and
> > also that as someone with little skills in even her own cuisine, it
> > would be major effort to cook Italian especially if the dish is to
> > come out Italin.
>
> Grin, logical to me.


> There are 2 things that a person on a fairly high
> protein diet needs to avoid excess of to maintain good weight. Those are
> excess fats (reasonable amounts fine) and excess starch. The Italian sorts
> of foods you saw here are probably (reasonable guess? Tell me if I am
> wrong?) Highish in pastas, possibly breads, and maybe cheeses (a fat type
> you may want to control at least somewhat).
>
> I don't see anything odd. How big or small you are isnt relevant. It was
> clearly expressed as not wanting to get bigger than your current size. That
> could be anyplace from a size 3 to a 2x for all I care. The desire is the
> same regardless and so would be the general advice.
>
> I'd start sending you real recipes, with helpful tips, only I'm pressed for
> time the next 4 days due to work. If you would prefer (and are comfortable
> with it) we can take it to email. My address is not munged. There i could
> send you say, 10 seemingly suitable Italian-American recipes and see if some
> of them spark your fancy, then narrow down to a better set with those
> results.

Thanks for the offer. I too am pressed with time now as I am taking a
class that is preparation to take an industrial certification which I
will take some time next year. It requires hand ons experience and so
I'll have to spend a lot of hours doing actual lab as well as
simulation software. We can get started when you schedule gets a bit
better. In fact, I will give you a new email address to use. I use
this email address to receive posts from software testing and computer
hardware ngs via an email client; I am not posting in rfc via my email
client as I did not set up to receive the posts from rfc there in
order to keep posts not get mixed with the posts form the said two
groups.
>
> I can probably hit just about any dietary need you have as long as i know
> enough to be right in what you find acceptable. I note meat is definately
> on the menu, and so far havent seen any specific types avoided. (Pork is a
> common one and I need know only if you avoid it, not why unless you wanted
> to mention it).

Frankly, I don't even like Chicken that much - I like beef only - but
I try to eat some chicken but I won't mind learning some dish using
pork as long as it is lean meat type dish. Pot sticker could be one.
>
> I can of course send the recipes here too. If I do that, more can see them
> and may find some use for a few of them.

That would work as well.
>
> BTW, the best ever Italian I ever had was in the Centraza Hotel in Fukuoka
> Japan, Kyushu island, Fukuoka prefecture. It was a mildly fusioned Italian,
> set to enhance those portions of the cuisine the Japanese found most
> palatable. Wish I had the recipes! Best Korean? In a little hole in the
> wall place in my own Norfolk VA area, now sadly closed. usion is when you
> sorta mix and match what's local to some other place taking hopefully, the
> best of both along.
>
> I find true italian cookery, a bit bland. American's tend to spice it up a
> bit more and may even be adding non-authentic spices in there. Like, Zaatar
> based spagetti sauce ;-)

I am only used to American version. I met a guy of Italian descent
and he cooks Italian at home. He told me that it's nothing like what's
available at the restaurant.
I don't know whether I'd like the Italian dishes from Italy; I
probably will.

BTW, when I mentioned about putting a little bit 3 or 4 veges in
daal , aside from Garam masala, tamarind sauce is added at the end. I
learned making this dish from a distant cousin when she visited me. My
family never made that dish. I made some today and frankly, I am
having a hard time with the spice. I like the one I made the other day
where I put only daikon. I think that with the one I made today, I did
not boil the daal till mushy and so the spice particles are suspended/
floating in the solution and hence gets to me unlike the other one
where the daal is mushy and spice blended into the mushy material.

On Nov 4, 4:59 pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "amandaF" wrote
>
> > Then, don't read and much less ..reply. Let someone else who is smart
> > enough to understand a foreigner (if there is any) reply. In fact,
> > if Americans in general wants to compete in the global market, stop
> > complaining how others speak and write English and learn to understand
> > them.
>
> BWAHAHAHA!! Now the Fat's in the fire! (Americanism, meaning it's now
> sizzling and popping like crazy and getting all loud and stuff).
>
> Keep in mind that not all of us are the same.

I know. I am referring to that type.

> Lots of nice folks, even some of the ones you are talking to when they are on a different subject (or in a
> different group).

I have American friends who are nothing like these air heads.

On Nov 4, 5:02 pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "amandaF" wrote
>
> >> If you have some questions about Italian dishes, just post them.
> >> As there are some here who know the Italian cuisine, you should get
> >> answers.
> > Thanks. The Italian dish I like the most are the ones with butter.
> > There was this restaurant (not a chain; owned b Italian family) near
> > where I was living in Houston, and they had that. It was so good. But,
> > I should not be eating that all the time. so, when I crave Italian, I
> > just go to a fine restaurant and have it.
>
> Would you be thinking Buttered Scampi on lingiune? (sorry, cant spell well
> but I think you can make it out)

I like Shrimp scampi. The best one I had was at a restaurant in
Houston.

On Nov 4, 5:57 pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "cybercat" wrote
>
> > Right. She's an ass who could not be bothered to post so that people could
> > understand what she is saying, and when I asked, in the midst of others
> > flaming her, if English was her second language, she flamed me.
>
> I didn't see any flames,

That's because I did not.

> just a 'why do you ask'
I bothered to reply to show that I heard her by saying something. the
next thing I knew she accused me of flaming. That tells me that I need
to put her in that other group of people.

> then an answer that she
> didnt want to post in a public venue, what her first language was.

>
> That her right.
Thanks you.

> Just like I asked if she found pork acceptable, I see no
> answer. I didnt ask if it was religion or other based, just needed to know
> so I could send suitable recipes to her is all.
>
> Imagine a post from someone in Israeal. They'd more likely than not be
> either Islamic or Jewish. Neither eat pork. You'd just ask if pork was on
> or off the menu. If she were on eof the religions that dont allow beef,
> you'd ask before you sent a grunch of beef recipes right?
>
> My first presumption that she might be from India is not accurate, but Asia
> is (and pretty sure not japan). That means a gamut of foods she may or may
> not find acceptable. She may eat everything that doesnt fly, crawl, or run
> faster than her, or she may have limits on some of them. Why is her own
> business if she doesnt want to say, but I've asked just so I can set up a
> few recipes for her. I didnt ask 'why' but I asked 'what'. The 'what' is
> all I need to send out a few recipes.
>
> There's a difference in our view here.
>
> To flesh this out: Lets say I asked for a low sugar jam. Probably most
> would 'assume' I was diabetic. I'm not but that would be very reasonable as
> most who ask for such are. I might reply, 'no I am not diabetic but need
> low sugar'. Next person in line assumes I'm a behemoth trying to lose
> weight (grin). I object and tell'em no and the fight is on!

Well said.