On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:23:12 -0800, SteveB wrote:

> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>
>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
>> or civil war.
>>
>> Not every country can say that.
>>
>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Thank you, Dimitri.
>
> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>
> Things like:
>
> guns
>
> freedom of speech
>
> talk radio
>
> They may not be around for long.
>
> STeve

you could at least wait until inauguration day before you start ****ing in
your pants.

blake

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:42:25 -0500, Stan Horwitz wrote:

> In article >,
> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>
>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
>>> or civil war.
>>>
>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>
>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> Thank you, Dimitri.
>>
>> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>>
>> Things like:
>>
>> guns
>>
>> freedom of speech
>>
>> talk radio
>>
>> They may not be around for long.
>
> Yawn!

right-wingers are so easily frightened. that's because they're pussies.

your pal,
blake

On Nov 5, 8:48*am, PeterLucas > wrote:

> All it takes is for some wally to get up and yell "I have a dream".....
> and people fall all over themselves to vote for him.

Considering the alternatives and the predecessor why not? Elections
are usually lost not won.

"SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>
>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
>> or civil war.
>>
>> Not every country can say that.
>>
>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Thank you, Dimitri.
>
> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>
> Things like:
>
> guns
>
> freedom of speech
>
> talk radio
>
> They may not be around for long.
>
> STeve


Do you really believe the President, any president has that much power?

No way Jose.

Dimitri

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:45:42 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
>
> > Stan Horwitz > wrote in
> >
> >:
> >
> >>
> >> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
> >> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
> >> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
> >>
> >> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
> >> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
> >> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't his
> >> year.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
>
> **** you. i suppose obama had one of his islamic slaves poison her?
>
> blake

I knew she was sick, but I'd not heard that she died... Bummer. :-(
Puts a negative spin on the beginning of his new career. He did love her.

He has my condolences. Anyone know if there is a place to send cards?
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Today we participate in an unusual event.
> >>
> >> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
> >> or civil war.
> >>
> >> Not every country can say that.
> >>
> >> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
> >>
> >> Dimitri
> >
> > Thank you, Dimitri.
> >
> > Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
> >
> > Things like:
> >
> > guns
> >
> > freedom of speech
> >
> > talk radio
> >
> > They may not be around for long.
> >
> > STeve
>
>
> Do you really believe the President, any president has that much power?
>
> No way Jose.
>
> Dimitri

I think a lot of people are missing exactly that point.
They probably did not pay attention in Government class in high school
and/or college.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Dimitri" > wrote:
>
>> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>> >>
>> >> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>> >> tanks
>> >> or civil war.
>> >>
>> >> Not every country can say that.
>> >>
>> >> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>> >>
>> >> Dimitri
>> >
>> > Thank you, Dimitri.
>> >
>> > Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>> >
>> > Things like:
>> >
>> > guns
>> >
>> > freedom of speech
>> >
>> > talk radio
>> >
>> > They may not be around for long.
>> >
>> > STeve
>>
>>
>> Do you really believe the President, any president has that much power?
>>
>> No way Jose.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> I think a lot of people are missing exactly that point.
> They probably did not pay attention in Government class in high school
> and/or college.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
> cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Probably in the bathroom smoking a joint or shotgunning from a pipe.

Dimitri

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:42:25 -0500, Stan Horwitz wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>>
>>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>>>> tanks
>>>> or civil war.
>>>>
>>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>>
>>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>>
>>>> Dimitri
>>>
>>> Thank you, Dimitri.
>>>
>>> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>>>
>>> Things like:
>>>
>>> guns
>>>
>>> freedom of speech
>>>
>>> talk radio
>>>
>>> They may not be around for long.
>>
>> Yawn!
>
> right-wingers are so easily frightened. that's because they're pussies.
>
> your pal,
> blake

The really sad thing is you never heard all those right-wingers complain
about all the rights that got taken away by the Patriot Act.

Ms P

Dimitri wrote:
>
> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>
>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>>> tanks or civil war.
>>>
>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>
>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> Thank you, Dimitri.
>>
>> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>>
>> Things like:
>>
>> guns
>>
>> freedom of speech
>>
>> talk radio
>>
>> They may not be around for long.
>>
>> STeve
>
>
> Do you really believe the President, any president has that much power?
>
> No way Jose.
>
> Dimitri

I am not claiming what might happen but interesting thinks could happen.
The president on his own can't do those (and other) things but consider
that 2009 will begin with both houses of Congress and the president all
from the same party. That removes part of the check and balance designed
into our system of government.

I *don't* want cooperation in government and I think it is important
when different branches dog each other which is the design of our system.

Dimitri wrote:
>
> "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>
>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>>> tanks or civil war.
>>>
>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>
>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> Thank you, Dimitri.
>>
>> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
>>
>> Things like:
>>
>> guns
>>
>> freedom of speech
>>
>> talk radio
>>
>> They may not be around for long.
>>
>> STeve
>
>
> Do you really believe the President, any president has that much power?
>
> No way Jose.
>
> Dimitri


Additionally, it wasn't the Dems who invoked the loss of
freedoms we've experienced since 9/11.

Freedom of speech and talk radio are Dem strengths.

gloria p

"Dave Bell" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>
>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
>> or civil war.
>>
>> Not every country can say that.
>>
>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Fine sentiments, Dimitri, and thank you for reminding everyone!
>
> Me, I'm recovering from a 16-hour stint volunteering at a local precinct.
> It's an interesting and often fun experience. As Harriet posted, there
> were a lot of young, first-time voters, all very excited about being there
> and having their say.
>
> Dave

Good for you.

I had to vote absentee due to a move.

I understand # 4 daughter replaced me being # 1 in line.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>
> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns, tanks
or
> civil war.
>
> Not every country can say that.
>
> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.


Thanks for that, we live in a pretty good place...

When I voted yesterday here in Chicago at the Methodist church down the
street two of the poll judges were an elegantly - dressed and kindly elderly
(80+) Jewish couple (I had seem them around in the nabe before). When I put
my ballot in the machine there was a minor snafu (I had over - voted for
judges, no big deal); the gentleman came over to assist me. I said, "Boy, I
love to vote, I even vote for the elementary school board candidates and I
don't even have kids" to which he replied, "Good for you!". I then said,
"It's a great day, America is a pretty good place after all...". He
gestured to his wife and said, "We know, we came from Germany...".



--
Best
Greg

Omelet wrote:

> In article
> >,
> "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote:
>
> > Dimitri wrote:
> > > Today we participate in an unusual event.
> > >
> > > The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
tanks or
> > > civil war.
> > >
> > > Not every country can say that.
> > >
> > > Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
> > >
> > > Dimitri
> >
> > i'm going to vote in about 10 minutes.
>
> I voted Wednesday before last.
> Avoided the crowds.


My polling place here in my busy Chicawgo nabe was virtually empty, I was in
and out in no time c. 4:00PM. There had been long lines at the local branch
library when I tried to vote last week...

The folks said there had a been a big rush when they opened, but nothing out
of the ordinary...some one third of voters in Chicagoland had already voted
early.


--
Best
Greg

Dimitri said...

>
> "Dave Bell" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dimitri wrote:
>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>
>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>>> tanks or civil war.
>>>
>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>
>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> Fine sentiments, Dimitri, and thank you for reminding everyone!
>>
>> Me, I'm recovering from a 16-hour stint volunteering at a local
>> precinct. It's an interesting and often fun experience. As Harriet
>> posted, there were a lot of young, first-time voters, all very excited
>> about being there and having their say.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Good for you.
>
> I had to vote absentee due to a move.
>
> I understand # 4 daughter replaced me being # 1 in line.
>
> Dimitri


I am SO glad the campaigning is finally over!!!

Now the candidate embarrassment is behind them and we only need a
magnifying glass on each of the newly elected officials.

What a relief!!!

Andy

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> "Dimitri" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> > Today we participate in an unusual event.
> >
> > The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
> > tanks or civil war.
> >
> > Not every country can say that.
> >
> > Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>
> Been there, done it and in an hour I'm on my way to my appointed office
> help people who can't get out of the house, find rides to the voting
> centers. I'll also be transporting folks.
>
> I need some lunch first. I'm thinking a big thick slice of kosher bologna
> on toast with some shaved red onion and some mustard.


"Ah'd luv to kiss ya but ah just washed ma hair..."

- Bette Davis

;-)


--
Best
Greg

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:42:25 -0500, Stan Horwitz wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
> >
> >> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
> >>>
> >>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
tanks
> >>> or civil war.
> >>>
> >>> Not every country can say that.
> >>>
> >>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
> >>>
> >>> Dimitri
> >>
> >> Thank you, Dimitri.
> >>
> >> Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
> >>
> >> Things like:
> >>
> >> guns
> >>
> >> freedom of speech
> >>
> >> talk radio
> >>
> >> They may not be around for long.
> >
> > Yawn!
>
> right-wingers are so easily frightened. that's because they're pussies.
>


Here goes blake again with the name - calling...even in *victory* he is
vicious and bitter!

We've all heard of "sore losers" but here is a verifiable case of a "sore
winner" - who knew...!!!???

<chuckle>


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

blake murphy wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:23:12 -0800, SteveB wrote:
>
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Today we participate in an unusual event.
> >>
> >> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
tanks
> >> or civil war.
> >>
> >> Not every country can say that.
> >>
> >> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
> >>
> >> Dimitri
> >
> > Thank you, Dimitri.
> >
> > Enjoy 'em while you got 'em, folks.
> >
> > Things like:
> >
> > guns
> >
> > freedom of speech
> >
> > talk radio
> >
> > They may not be around for long.
> >
> > STeve
>
> you could at least wait until inauguration day before you start ****ing in
> your pants.


Lol...this comin' from the d00d whose diaper is *already* "full"...

Ya gotta love it...

:-)


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>
> when i voted, the nice lady poll worker said maryland is going back to
> paper ballots next time.

Really? Good.

I voted Yes for early voting for Maryland in the future. Hopefully that
proposition went through.

Mary

Andy said...

> Dimitri said...
>
>>
>> "Dave Bell" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dimitri wrote:
>>>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>>>>
>>>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>>>> tanks or civil war.
>>>>
>>>> Not every country can say that.
>>>>
>>>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>>>>
>>>> Dimitri
>>>
>>> Fine sentiments, Dimitri, and thank you for reminding everyone!
>>>
>>> Me, I'm recovering from a 16-hour stint volunteering at a local
>>> precinct. It's an interesting and often fun experience. As Harriet
>>> posted, there were a lot of young, first-time voters, all very excited
>>> about being there and having their say.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> Good for you.
>>
>> I had to vote absentee due to a move.
>>
>> I understand # 4 daughter replaced me being # 1 in line.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
>
> I am SO glad the campaigning is finally over!!!
>
> Now the candidate embarrassment is behind them and we only need a
> magnifying glass on each of the newly elected officials.
>
> What a relief!!!
>
> Andy


Oh, and sqwertz, your candidate embarrassment ISN'T behind you! Your
adoring fag fans will need electron microscopes, not magnifying glasses to
see what you're made of!

LOLOLOL!!!

Andy

Gregory Morrow said...

>
>
> blAndy blabbled:
>
>> Dimitri said...
>>
>> >
>> > "Dave Bell" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Dimitri wrote:
>> >>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
>> >>>
>> >>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
>> >>> tanks or civil war.
>> >>>
>> >>> Not every country can say that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dimitri
>> >>
>> >> Fine sentiments, Dimitri, and thank you for reminding everyone!
>> >>
>> >> Me, I'm recovering from a 16-hour stint volunteering at a local
>> >> precinct. It's an interesting and often fun experience. As Harriet
>> >> posted, there were a lot of young, first-time voters, all very
excited
>> >> about being there and having their say.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >
>> > Good for you.
>> >
>> > I had to vote absentee due to a move.
>> >
>> > I understand # 4 daughter replaced me being # 1 in line.
>> >
>> > Dimitri
>>
>>
>> I am SO glad the campaigning is finally over!!!
>>
>> Now the candidate embarrassment is behind them and we only need a
>> magnifying glass on each of the newly elected officials.
>>
>> What a relief!!!
>
>
> Not *really*, blAndy...now we can focus our attention on being
embarrassed"
> for *you*...after all, you are "running" at the mouth, as they say.
>
> ;-P


Greg Morrow.. GOD's gift to sqwertz!

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-27EA5E.10280405112008
@news.giganews.com:

> In article >,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> I have spent many hours face to face with him trying to explain a
>> predicament that some ex-servicemen are faced with....... and he just
>> *couldn't* get his head around it. Lots of intelligence..... and not an
>> ounce of commonsense.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>
> You've spoken with Obama in person?
>
> Seriously?



I was referring to Kevin Rudd.

Our PM.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

blAndy blabbled:

> Dimitri said...
>
> >
> > "Dave Bell" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Dimitri wrote:
> >>> Today we participate in an unusual event.
> >>>
> >>> The beginning of an orderly transition of government without guns,
> >>> tanks or civil war.
> >>>
> >>> Not every country can say that.
> >>>
> >>> Please vote and be thankful for the privilege.
> >>>
> >>> Dimitri
> >>
> >> Fine sentiments, Dimitri, and thank you for reminding everyone!
> >>
> >> Me, I'm recovering from a 16-hour stint volunteering at a local
> >> precinct. It's an interesting and often fun experience. As Harriet
> >> posted, there were a lot of young, first-time voters, all very excited
> >> about being there and having their say.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > Good for you.
> >
> > I had to vote absentee due to a move.
> >
> > I understand # 4 daughter replaced me being # 1 in line.
> >
> > Dimitri
>
>
> I am SO glad the campaigning is finally over!!!
>
> Now the candidate embarrassment is behind them and we only need a
> magnifying glass on each of the newly elected officials.
>
> What a relief!!!


Not *really*, blAndy...now we can focus our attention on being embarrassed"
for *you*...after all, you are "running" at the mouth, as they say.

;-P


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

Gloria P > wrote in
:

> PeterLucas wrote:
>> Stan Horwitz > wrote in
>> -
addr.btopenworld.
>> com
>> :
>>
>>> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
>>> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
>>> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
>>>
>>> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
>>> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
>>> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't
>>> his year.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
>
>
>
> Your posts have never really bothered me--until now.
> This one is over the top. The insensitivity and cynicism
> puts you right in the "ignore" category.
>
> gloria p
>



Not insensitive, or even cynical. Strictly an objective view. You can't
tell me that he didn't get quite a lot of 'sympathy votes' out of it.

Sure, he didn't pick the time, but by the same token, it couldn't have
happened at a better time for him.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

John Kane > wrote in news:6e5538c7-f79f-4ea9-82af-
:

> On Nov 5, 8:48*am, PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> All it takes is for some wally to get up and yell "I have a dream".....
>> and people fall all over themselves to vote for him.
>
> Considering the alternatives and the predecessor why not? Elections
> are usually lost not won.
>


Yeah, the word over here is that if Macain had been as eloquent on the
campaign trail as he was in his 'concession' speech, he would have been a
shoe-in.

Oh well......... I've always hated two horse races.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

PeterLucas said...

> John Kane > wrote in news:6e5538c7-f79f-4ea9-82af-
> :
>
>> On Nov 5, 8:48*am, PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>>> All it takes is for some wally to get up and yell "I have a dream".....
>>> and people fall all over themselves to vote for him.
>>
>> Considering the alternatives and the predecessor why not? Elections
>> are usually lost not won.
>>
>
>
> Yeah, the word over here is that if Macain had been as eloquent on the
> campaign trail as he was in his 'concession' speech, he would have been a
> shoe-in.
>
> Oh well......... I've always hated two horse races.


Peter,

So you invented the Melbourne Cup!?!

I lost $1 ASD!

My Philadelphia Phillies, 2008 WORLD SERIES Baseball Champions!!!

Well, it ain't cricket, DAMMIT, but it's all we got!!! <G>

Andy

PeterLucas > wrote:

>John Kane > wrote in news:6e5538c7-f79f-4ea9-82af-

>> On Nov 5, 8:48*am, PeterLucas > wrote:

>>> All it takes is for some wally to get up and yell "I have a dream".....
>>> and people fall all over themselves to vote for him.

>> Considering the alternatives and the predecessor why not? Elections
>> are usually lost not won.

>Yeah, the word over here is that if Macain had been as eloquent on the
>campaign trail as he was in his 'concession' speech, he would have been a
>shoe-in.

McCain was ahead in the polls up until the banking
crisis hit full-force in mid-September. As I see it, the
Masters of the Universe couldn't keep a handle on things
and so the sucker went to the opposition.

I voted for Obama, I'm very relieved he won, but I do worry
about Obama democrats who, while they did admirably hard work,
will assume too much that they did things right, as opposed to
were saved by a chance timing of events.

Steve

???????????

--
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Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

"PeterLucas" > wrote in message
.25...
> Gloria P > wrote in
> :
>
> > PeterLucas wrote:
> >> Stan Horwitz > wrote in
> >> -
> addr.btopenworld.
> >> com
> >> :
> >>
> >>> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
> >>> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
> >>> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
> >>>
> >>> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
> >>> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
> >>> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't
> >>> his year.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your posts have never really bothered me--until now.
> > This one is over the top. The insensitivity and cynicism
> > puts you right in the "ignore" category.
> >
> > gloria p
> >
>
>
>
> Not insensitive, or even cynical. Strictly an objective view. You can't
> tell me that he didn't get quite a lot of 'sympathy votes' out of it.
>
> Sure, he didn't pick the time, but by the same token, it couldn't have
> happened at a better time for him.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
>
> If we are not meant to eat animals,
> why are they made of meat?

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:45:42 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
> >
> > > Stan Horwitz > wrote in
> > >
> > >:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
> > >> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
> > >> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
> > >>
> > >> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
> > >> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
> > >> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't his
> > >> year.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
> >
> > **** you. i suppose obama had one of his islamic slaves poison her?
> >
> > blake
>
> I knew she was sick, but I'd not heard that she died... Bummer. :-(
> Puts a negative spin on the beginning of his new career. He did love her.
>
> He has my condolences. Anyone know if there is a place to send cards?

You could always send a sympathy card to Obama's Senate office. You can
look up the address at http://www.senate.gov

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Gloria P > wrote in
> :
>
> > PeterLucas wrote:
> >> Stan Horwitz > wrote in
> >> -
> addr.btopenworld.
> >> com
> >> :
> >>
> >>> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
> >>> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
> >>> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
> >>>
> >>> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
> >>> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
> >>> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't
> >>> his year.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your posts have never really bothered me--until now.
> > This one is over the top. The insensitivity and cynicism
> > puts you right in the "ignore" category.
> >
> > gloria p
> >
>
>
>
> Not insensitive, or even cynical. Strictly an objective view. You can't
> tell me that he didn't get quite a lot of 'sympathy votes' out of it.

I doubt it. Obama was way a head in the polls before news of his
grandmother's illness was made public. Further, a lot of voters,
something like 30% voted early. Some even voted up to three weeks before
the death of Obama's grandmother.

> Sure, he didn't pick the time, but by the same token, it couldn't have
> happened at a better time for him.

That's ludicrous. This election was McCain's to lose. McCain lost the
eleection for a variety of reasons, none of which had to do with the
timing of Obama's grandmother's death.

In article
>,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:45:42 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
> > >
> > > > Stan Horwitz > wrote in
> > > >
> > > > m
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> My district in NJ is roughly 80% Democrat. The polls for my district
> > > >> are in the building where I live. Voting couldn't be more convenient
> > > >> for me and my neighbors. We had a record turnout of voters today!
> > > >>
> > > >> McCain is on TV now announcing his concession to Obama! McCain is
> > > >> being a very classy individual in how he's conceding. I know McCain
> > > >> worked hard to win and so did his volunteers, but this just wasn't his
> > > >> year.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It helps to have a grandmother die on cue.
> > >
> > > **** you. i suppose obama had one of his islamic slaves poison her?
> > >
> > > blake
> >
> > I knew she was sick, but I'd not heard that she died... Bummer. :-(
> > Puts a negative spin on the beginning of his new career. He did love her.
> >
> > He has my condolences. Anyone know if there is a place to send cards?
>
> You could always send a sympathy card to Obama's Senate office. You can
> look up the address at http://www.senate.gov

Thanks.
He was raised by her for the most part from what I understand.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:
>
> i don't think obama will kiss up to a man that vilified him, unlike mccain
> did with george bush. mccain lacks the integrity for a position in an
> obama administration.

If Obama really wants to demonstrate his desire to work across party
lines, he will appoint McCain to a cabinet position, such as Secretary
of the Department of Energy.

In article
>,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> > i don't think obama will kiss up to a man that vilified him, unlike mccain
> > did with george bush. mccain lacks the integrity for a position in an
> > obama administration.
>
> If Obama really wants to demonstrate his desire to work across party
> lines, he will appoint McCain to a cabinet position, such as Secretary
> of the Department of Energy.

Postmaster General. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:27:23 -0800, sf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:55:44 -0500, Stan Horwitz >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Perhaps, but McCain already has an important position: United States
> >>Senator.
> >
> > OK, I'll put you in the anti-bipartisan column.
> > Thanks for the input.
>
> why is it that 'bipartisanism' always means democrats should reach out to
> republicans? when did republicans *ever* seek consensus with democrats?
> this is a bullshit argument.

That's a fair question. Certainly, George "The Great Uniter" Bush didn't
reach out to house Democrats. Still, I expect better of Democrats.

Andy > wrote in :

> PeterLucas said...
>
>> John Kane > wrote in
>> news:6e5538c7-f79f-4ea9-82af-
>> :
>>
>>> On Nov 5, 8:48*am, PeterLucas > wrote:
>>>
>>>> All it takes is for some wally to get up and yell "I have a
>>>> dream"..... and people fall all over themselves to vote for him.
>>>
>>> Considering the alternatives and the predecessor why not? Elections
>>> are usually lost not won.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, the word over here is that if Macain had been as eloquent on
>> the campaign trail as he was in his 'concession' speech, he would
>> have been a shoe-in.
>>
>> Oh well......... I've always hated two horse races.
>
>
> Peter,
>
> So you invented the Melbourne Cup!?!


LOL!! I'm not *that* old!!

It started in 1861.


>
> I lost $1 ASD!


ASD???

USD..... or AUD?


>
> My Philadelphia Phillies, 2008 WORLD SERIES Baseball Champions!!!
>
> Well, it ain't cricket, DAMMIT, but it's all we got!!! <G>
>


I was actually watching some of the "World Series" over here.

BTW, why do they call it a "World" Series when there's only US teams
competing??



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Omelet > wrote in
news

>> >
>> > I knew she was sick, but I'd not heard that she died... Bummer. :-(
>> > Puts a negative spin on the beginning of his new career. He did
>> > love her.
>> >
>> > He has my condolences. Anyone know if there is a place to send
>> > cards?
>>
>> You could always send a sympathy card to Obama's Senate office. You
>> can look up the address at http://www.senate.gov
>
> Thanks.
> He was raised by her for the most part from what I understand.


Yep.

His father died in '82. His mother left him with the grandmother while
she did her own thing. She died in '94.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Barack Obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women &
Children in Honolulu, Hawaii,[10] to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Luo
from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a white
American from Wichita, Kansas[11] of mainly English, Scottish and Irish
descent.[12][13][14] His parents met in 1960 while attending the
University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was a foreign student.
[15][16] The couple married February 2, 1961;[17] they separated when
Obama was two years old and subsequently divorced in 1964.[16] Obama's
father returned to Kenya and saw his son only once more before dying in
an automobile accident in 1982.[18]

After her divorce, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to
Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967, where Obama attended local
schools, such as Asisi, in Jakarta until he was ten years old. He then
returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while
attending Punahou School from the fifth grade in 1971 until his
graduation from high school in 1979.[19] Obama's mother returned to
Hawaii in 1972 for several years, and then in 1977 went back to
Indonesia, where she worked as an anthropological field worker. She
stayed there most of the rest of her life, returning to Hawaii in 1994.
She died of ovarian cancer in 1995.[20]

As an adult Obama admitted that during high school he used marijuana,
cocaine, and alcohol, which he described at the 2008 Civil Forum on the
Presidency as his greatest moral failure.


(So now you have a neglected Coke sniffer for President.)


(Seems he also has blood relatives in Kenya and Indonesia. I wonder if
they get a Secret Service detail?)

Obama has seven half-siblings from his Kenyan father's family, six of
them living, and a half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, the daughter of his
mother and her Indonesian second husband.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:


> I was actually watching some of the "World Series" over here.
>
> BTW, why do they call it a "World" Series when there's only US teams
> competing??

Didn't we just have this discussion here? A Canadian team won twice in
a row.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-258246.17320905112008@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>
>> I was actually watching some of the "World Series" over here.
>>
>> BTW, why do they call it a "World" Series when there's only US teams
>> competing??
>
> Didn't we just have this discussion here? A Canadian team won twice in
> a row.
>


Canada/US...... same same.
Where's the Japs? Or the Aussies? Or the Chinese?


The "world" is not just Canada and the US..... sorry to burst a lot of
peoples bubbles there!!

If it's just between those two, then it should be renamed the Northern
Americas Championships..... or something similar.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Shawn Hirn > wrote in news:srhi-92F7FF.20532805112008
@UNKNOWN-98-136-209-74.yahoo.com:

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>> (Seems he also has blood relatives in Kenya and Indonesia. I wonder if
>> they get a Secret Service detail?)
>
> Nope; just Obama, his wife and children will be guarded by the Secret
> Service. In fact, I am pretty sure they already are.
>


That could leave him open to threat/blackmail etc, if some nutter decides
to go after his relatives...... especially in Indonesia, and Kenya.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Stan Horwitz wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> > i don't think obama will kiss up to a man that vilified him, unlike
> > mccain did with george bush. mccain lacks the integrity for a
> > position in an obama administration.
>
> If Obama really wants to demonstrate his desire to work across party
> lines, he will appoint McCain to a cabinet position, such as
> Secretary of the Department of Energy.

He'll appoint a competent Republican who's on good terms with other
Republicans he's worked with.

I don't think McCain fits that description.

--
Dan Goodman
..sig under reconstruction

On Wed 05 Nov 2008 08:21:09p, Shawn Hirn told us...

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> That could leave him open to threat/blackmail etc, if some nutter
decides
>> to go after his relatives...... especially in Indonesia, and Kenya.
>
> Perhaps, but its no different than any other president. President Bush
> has relatives living in several states, much closer to home then Obama's
> family. Clinton had family here too that could have been taken hostage,
> as did Carter, Bush 41, and Reagan.
>

They were all white. Any attempt at violence against the Obamas "could" be
racially motivated. There are a lot of crazy folks out there.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)

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