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On Nov 6, 9:08*pm, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. *Is it still > made? *I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. *I > look in the spice and baking sections. Won't be in a "regular" store....try a whole foods "organic" store....or I get mine at Penzey's. http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...arrowroot.html |
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"SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in
: > I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it > still made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look > there. I look in the spice and baking sections. > > Steve > Strange. We can buy it at our local supermarkets. http://tinyurl.com/57spr7 -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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![]() > "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in > : > >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it >> still made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look >> there. I look in the spice and baking sections. >> >> Steve >> Where are you looking? I think I've seen it in the spice aisle. -Tracy |
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"SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote: > I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still > made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I > look in the spice and baking sections. > > Steve It is still made. I can buy it at my food co-op; also at Penzeys. Look near the cornstarch, maybe. (I'm guessing.) -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini (Send her a note!) |
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I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still
made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I look in the spice and baking sections. Steve -- -Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.- |
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You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of
cornstarch instead of arrowroot. Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for easier mixing and to avoid lumps. Laura |
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On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us...
> You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of > cornstarch instead of arrowroot. > Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for > easier mixing and to avoid lumps. > Laura Differences you should be aware of, in case they’ve not previously been mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and is virtually transparent. Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost as transparent. Flour takes the longest cooking to thicken and also to lose its “starchy” taste, and has a cloudier appearance than either arrowroot or cornstarch. -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ******************************************* Date: Thursday, 11(XI)/06(VI)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Countdown till Veteran's Day 4dys 3hrs 18mins ******************************************* ((((((((((HYPNOTIC))))))))(((((((TAG LINE)))))))) |
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On Thu 06 Nov 2008 10:01:55p, SteveB told us...
> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this > regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make > a blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork > roast. I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to > use the best at the right time. I'll keep looking. > > Steve As I’m sure you’re learning, Steve, each thickener has its strong and weak points and appropriateness for certain types of dishes. Flour cooked in a roux is my first choice for really good gravy. Gravy made this way also reheats well, although sometimes additional liquid needs to be added on reheating. Some folks use cornstarch in gravy, and it’s not bad when first used. However, I find it has a disagreeable texture when reheated. If you haven’t seen this before, this is a good reference for comparing the various starches and their recommended uses: http://www.baking911.com/pantry/thickeners.htm -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ******************************************* Date: Thursday, 11(XI)/06(VI)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Countdown till Veteran's Day 4dys 2hrs 32mins ******************************************* Do not merely believe in miracles, rely on them. |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 5.250... > On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... > >> You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of >> cornstarch instead of arrowroot. >> Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for >> easier mixing and to avoid lumps. >> Laura > > Differences you should be aware of, in case they've not previously been > mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and is > virtually transparent. Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost > as > transparent. Flour takes the longest cooking to thicken and also to lose > its "starchy" taste, and has a cloudier appearance than either arrowroot > or > cornstarch. > Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make a blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the best at the right time. I'll keep looking. Steve |
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![]() SteveB wrote: > > I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still > made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I > look in the spice and baking sections. > > Steve > > Try a wholefood shop or an Asian shop. |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:18:04 -0800 (PST), Brawny >
wrote: >On Nov 6, 9:08*pm, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote: >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. *Is it still >> made? *I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. *I >> look in the spice and baking sections. > >Won't be in a "regular" store....try a whole foods "organic" >store....or I get mine at Penzey's. > >http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...arrowroot.html > You can't find it at safeway or lucky's anymore???? -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Nov 6, 10:46*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote: > On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... > > mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and is > virtually transparent. *Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost as > transparent. Use Clear Gel for a completely transparent thickener. Great for cherry pies since it remains "sparkling" clear. |
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>, Brawny > wrote: > On Nov 6, 10:46*pm, Wayne Boatwright > > wrote: > > On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... > > > > mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and is > > virtually transparent. *Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost as > > transparent. > > Use Clear Gel for a completely transparent thickener. Great for > cherry pies since it remains "sparkling" clear. Pectin is a great thickener, but it won't do for savory dishes! -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:01:55 -0800, SteveB wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > 5.250... >> On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... >> >>> You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of >>> cornstarch instead of arrowroot. >>> Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for >>> easier mixing and to avoid lumps. >>> Laura >> >> Differences you should be aware of, in case they've not previously been >> mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and is >> virtually transparent. Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost >> as >> transparent. Flour takes the longest cooking to thicken and also to lose >> its "starchy" taste, and has a cloudier appearance than either arrowroot >> or >> cornstarch. >> > > Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this > regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make a > blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. > I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the best > at the right time. I'll keep looking. > > Steve you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot isn't terribly exotic. your pal, blake |
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![]() "blake murphy" > wrote in message .. . > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:01:55 -0800, SteveB wrote: > >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> 5.250... >>> On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... >>> >>>> You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of >>>> cornstarch instead of arrowroot. >>>> Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for >>>> easier mixing and to avoid lumps. >>>> Laura >>> >>> Differences you should be aware of, in case they've not previously been >>> mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and >>> is >>> virtually transparent. Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost >>> as >>> transparent. Flour takes the longest cooking to thicken and also to >>> lose >>> its "starchy" taste, and has a cloudier appearance than either arrowroot >>> or >>> cornstarch. >>> >> >> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this >> regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make >> a >> blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. >> I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the >> best >> at the right time. I'll keep looking. >> >> Steve > > you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot > isn't terribly exotic. > > your pal, > blake So far, it's Arrowroot 3, Managers 0. Steve |
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blake murphy > wrote: > > Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this > > regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make a > > blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. > > I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the > > best > > at the right time. I'll keep looking. > > > > Steve > > you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot > isn't terribly exotic. > > your pal, > blake And if you wanted to be polite, Blake, you could have phrased that: "Have you checked with the store manager to see if they carry it? They may know where it's located, or order some for you". It's not that hard Blake... -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
: > In article >, > "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote: > >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is >> it still made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and >> look there. I look in the spice and baking sections. >> >> Steve > > It is still made. I can buy it at my food co-op; also at Penzeys. > Look near the cornstarch, maybe. (I'm guessing.) I buy it in my local bulk food store (Food Barn a Scoop and Weigh type store)...the place where you can buy a mess of dehydrated fruits and veggies, 47 types of flour, bulk nuts, dried beans, bulk loose candies, loose spices etc...But I live in Canada. If you live in the U.S. try a health food store. Even Penzeys would be cheaper than a speciality store. -- The beet goes on -Alan |
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![]() "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message ... > I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it > still made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look > there. I look in the spice and baking sections. > > Steve I got mine at a bulk restaurant-supply type of place. Out here in the West, we have Cash & Carry and Smart & Final. I also like how arrowroot gives your food a nice glossy appearance. I use it regularly in stir fry sauces. Hasta, Curt Nelson |
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![]() "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote in message ... > I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it > still made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look > there. I look in the spice and baking sections. > > Steve > > -- > -Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.- Look in the spice section Commonly called St Vincent Arrowroot. Dimitri Genuine St. Vincent Arrowroot (Maranta Arundiaceace) produces a fine, very pure form of starch, internationally acclaimed for its special properties. The St. Vincent Arrowroot Industry, a totally indigenous agro processing enterprise, undertakes the cultivation, processing and sale to selected buyers. Uses of the Product Genuine St. Vincent Arrowroot is without smell, taste or allergenic properties. It is manufactured under natural conditions without any chemical additives. In its natural form it is in high demand as a cooking thickener of gravies, and sauces. The product is used for inclusion in spice packs sold at supermarkets and groceries and finds a place in drug stores as cure for stomach ailments. Arrowroot Startch is derived from the Rhizomes The commodity can be used to replace wheat or other cereals in cereal free products for persons who are affected by cereal intolerance. Arrowroot starch is also a much sought after product for use in cookies, baby foods, dessert mixes and breakfast foods. It can be used as an odourless baby powder. Arrowroot starch continues to be highly regarded for its use in production of high quality computer paper as well as for a myriad of food, beverages, animal feeds and pharmaceutical products. By products of the arrowroot-starch manufacturing process such as madungo is a highly priced local product with tremendous market/sale possibilities, yet to be fully exploited. Waste products such as the 'coarse bittee', 'fine bittee' and fruit water can be processed and promoted as potential outputs of the manufacturing process. History St. Vincent and the Grenadines has a long history of arrowroot production. The industry arose from humble beginnings as the food and medicine of the Carib and Garifuna peoples to the status of a major export of St. Vincent during the period 1900 to 1965. It became an important commodity in colonial trade in the 1930's. As the sugar industry declined in the nineteenth century, cultivation of arrowroot was developed to fill the void. Since then, the acrerage declined steadily and the crop was eclipsed by competition from other crops, particularly banana. Evidence of its former glory is indicated by the ruins of the various magnificent 19th century factories located in every valley on St. Vincent's mainland. Arrowroot Fields along the Windward Coastline Arrowroot cultivation is now concentrated on farms located north of the Rabacca River particularly in the Owia area. In 1998/99, the industry produced 312,000 lbs of starch, which represents about three percent of the maximum levels that the island exported in the 1960s. In the past, the St. Vincent Arrowroot Industry played an important role in the economy of SVG, contributing close to 50% of the country's foreign export earnings and was the principal source of employment and income of the rural people from the 1930s to the 1960s. During the War Years, the Industry donated a spitfire fighter plane to the Colonial War efforts. By the end of the War, the industry contributed to the construction of the Peace Memorial Hall in recognition of local effort to the War. Cultivation The arrowroot plant Is very hardy and not very demanding in its requirements. St. Vincent, particularly the north-east coast, provides the ideal growing conditions for optimal yields; deep, well drained, slightly acidic so its and a hot humid climate. The main pest is the arrowroot leaf roller (Calpodes ethelius) which is kept under control by natural agents through an Integrated Pest Management Program of the Crop Protection Unit of the Ministry of Agriculture, Land and Fisheries. Arrowroot is Harvested by Hand Arrowroot farming is labour intensive especially at harvesting which is done manually. The starch is derived from the underground storage stems or rhizomes, which are plowed up, manually removed from the field and processed at the plant located at Owia. The dried starch is refined and tested for purity, graded and packaged for export. Stakeholders Small farmers form the backbone of the industry are the major contributors to the cultivation. The number of farmers cultivating the crop in 1998 was estimated at 172 on approximately 200 acres of land in 26 farming communities. In recent times, six major studies were commissioned to examine the causes of the industry decline and to provide recommendations for its improvement. Kairi Consultants Limited was contracted by the Government of St. Vincent and the Grenadines (GoSVG) to undertake a feasibility study for the Expansion of the Arrowroot Industry in St. Vincent. The findings of the study provide strategic actions to be taken to improve the status of the Industry. The Government of St. Vincent and the Grenadines recognises the value of the agricultural food industrial sector for employment, income and poverty reduction. New opportunities for free trade and access to world markets through the New World Order, provides traditional industries such as the Arrowroot starch industry with greatly enhanced opportunities to earn foreign exchange. This article first appeared in The Ins & Outs of St. Vincent & the Grenadines. It is published courtesy of Miller Publishing Co. Ltd. Visit their website Ins & Outs of Barbados |
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Arri London wrote:
> > SteveB wrote: >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still >> made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I >> look in the spice and baking sections. >> >> Steve >> >> > > Try a wholefood shop or an Asian shop. At a regular supermarket look among the spices. I've seen it in glass jars on the racks where they display the spices in alphabetical order. gloria p |
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![]() Gloria P wrote: > > Arri London wrote: > > > > SteveB wrote: > >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still > >> made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I > >> look in the spice and baking sections. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > > > > Try a wholefood shop or an Asian shop. > > At a regular supermarket look among the spices. I've seen it in > glass jars on the racks where they display the spices in alphabetical order. > > gloria p True. But some have it and some don't. It doesn't seem very exotic, but maybe in some regions it is... |
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![]() "Arri London" > wrote in message ... > > > Gloria P wrote: >> >> Arri London wrote: >> > >> > SteveB wrote: >> >> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it >> >> still >> >> made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. >> >> I >> >> look in the spice and baking sections. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Try a wholefood shop or an Asian shop. >> >> At a regular supermarket look among the spices. I've seen it in >> glass jars on the racks where they display the spices in alphabetical >> order. >> >> gloria p > > > True. But some have it and some don't. It doesn't seem very exotic, but > maybe in some regions it is... I know one thing. The first time I see it, I'm going to buy the largest size they have. Steve |
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:18:05 -0800, SteveB wrote:
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message > .. . >> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:01:55 -0800, SteveB wrote: >> >>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>> 5.250... >>>> On Thu 06 Nov 2008 08:17:49p, Laura from MomsRetro.com told us... >>>> >>>>> You can substitute 2 tablespoons of regular flour or 1 tablespoon of >>>>> cornstarch instead of arrowroot. >>>>> Don't forget to dissolve it in a little water or broth first for >>>>> easier mixing and to avoid lumps. >>>>> Laura >>>> >>>> Differences you should be aware of, in case they've not previously been >>>> mentioned, is that arrowroot thickens almost instantly when cooked and >>>> is >>>> virtually transparent. Cornstarch takes longer to thicken and is almost >>>> as >>>> transparent. Flour takes the longest cooking to thicken and also to >>>> lose >>>> its "starchy" taste, and has a cloudier appearance than either arrowroot >>>> or >>>> cornstarch. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this >>> regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make >>> a >>> blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. >>> I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the >>> best >>> at the right time. I'll keep looking. >>> >>> Steve >> >> you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot >> isn't terribly exotic. >> >> your pal, >> blake > > So far, it's Arrowroot 3, Managers 0. > > Steve how odd. i don't use it, but i'm pretty sure it's in my grocery with the flour and cornstarch. it is true that managers sometimes don't know their inventory, but often they do. your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:01:17 -0600, Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > blake murphy > wrote: > >>> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this >>> regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make a >>> blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. >>> I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the >>> best >>> at the right time. I'll keep looking. >>> >>> Steve >> >> you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot >> isn't terribly exotic. >> >> your pal, >> blake > > And if you wanted to be polite, Blake, you could have phrased that: > > "Have you checked with the store manager to see if they carry it? They > may know where it's located, or order some for you". > > It's not that hard Blake... i didn't think steve was such a delicate flower. but you're right. your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:28:25 -0700, Gloria P wrote:
> Arri London wrote: >> >> SteveB wrote: >>> I've been looking for it at stores, and can't find it anywhere. Is it still >>> made? I'm going to a kitchen specialty shop tomorrow and look there. I >>> look in the spice and baking sections. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >> >> Try a wholefood shop or an Asian shop. > > > At a regular supermarket look among the spices. I've seen it in > glass jars on the racks where they display the spices in alphabetical order. > > gloria p i seem to recall seeing it there as well, but at a ridiculous price. your pal, blake |
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blake murphy > wrote: > it is true that managers sometimes don't know their inventory, but often > they do. > > your pal, > blake They can generally look it up on one of their computers. -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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blake murphy > wrote: > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:01:17 -0600, Omelet wrote: > > > In article >, > > blake murphy > wrote: > > > >>> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this > >>> regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make > >>> a > >>> blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork roast. > >>> I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to use the > >>> best > >>> at the right time. I'll keep looking. > >>> > >>> Steve > >> > >> you could do something radical like asking the store manager. arrowroot > >> isn't terribly exotic. > >> > >> your pal, > >> blake > > > > And if you wanted to be polite, Blake, you could have phrased that: > > > > "Have you checked with the store manager to see if they carry it? They > > may know where it's located, or order some for you". > > > > It's not that hard Blake... > > i didn't think steve was such a delicate flower. but you're right. > > your pal, > blake Wow, thanks :-) -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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On Sat 08 Nov 2008 11:11:12a, blake murphy told us...
> how odd. i don't use it, but i'm pretty sure it's in my grocery with > the flour and cornstarch. > > it is true that managers sometimes don't know their inventory, but often > they do. > > your pal, > blake In stores I frequent it’s packaged in jars in the spice section. Most recipes don’t call for large quantities of it. -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ******************************************* Date: Saturday, 11(XI)/08(VIII)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Countdown till Veteran's Day 2dys 7hrs 54mins ******************************************* Cats must hide in the kitchen drawers and jump out at Mom. |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 5.250... > On Thu 06 Nov 2008 10:01:55p, SteveB told us... > >> Thanks, all. I'm still looking. I originally found out about this >> regarding soup thickening. I did learn to cook the flour first and make >> a blonde roux, and that turned out great in my last gravy with pork >> roast. I'd just like to find some, and then between the three learn to >> use the best at the right time. I'll keep looking. >> >> Steve > > As I'm sure you're learning, Steve, each thickener has its strong and weak > points and appropriateness for certain types of dishes. Flour cooked in a > roux is my first choice for really good gravy. Gravy made this way also > reheats well, although sometimes additional liquid needs to be added on > reheating. Some folks use cornstarch in gravy, and it's not bad when > first > used. However, I find it has a disagreeable texture when reheated. > > If you haven't seen this before, this is a good reference for comparing > the > various starches and their recommended uses: > > http://www.baking911.com/pantry/thickeners.htm > > -- > Wayne Boatwright > I agree completely about roux. You really have to cook the flour. I make roux in a microwave with olive oil, rather than the traditional butter. You can "stay" in the microwave and heat milk or stock to make your béchamel or volute without ever going to the stovetop. The other important thing about the other starches is that both arrowroot and cornstarch thickened sauces thin when they're reheated. If you "cook" the flour the sauce is absolutely clear, and stays consistently clear with no flour taste. As long as you stir now and then you can make a good brown roux. Theron Theron Theron |
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