Can this be true?

Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!

Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.

It looks like they were!

Corey Richardson > wrote in
:

> Can this be true?
>
> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
> tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!
>
> Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
> containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.
>
> It looks like they were!



I usually always put oil in my pasta water. Except for my homemade pasta.


It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it stops
the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta when you drain
it off.

Gordon *can't* be wrong!! He copied off me ;-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Corey Richardson wrote:
> Can this be true?
>
> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
> tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!
>
> Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
> containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.
>
> It looks like they were!
>
Corey, if you want to waste a splash of oil, which serves no good
purpose when cooking pasta, go right ahead. Who are we to stop you?

Goomba > wrote in news:6nkei8FlsfodU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Corey Richardson wrote:
>> Can this be true?
>>
>> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
>> tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!
>>
>> Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
>> containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.
>>
>> It looks like they were!
>>
> Corey, if you want to waste a splash of oil, which serves no good
> purpose when cooking pasta, go right ahead. Who are we to stop you?
>


It's not a waste, Goom's.

It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it stops
the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta when you drain
it off.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

"PeterLucas" > wrote in message
>
> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it stops
> the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta when you
> drain
> it off.

I guess that is OK if you are serving the pasta with oil. If you are
putting a red sauce, you don't want it seal with oil.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in news:IT7Rk.7199$be.1256
@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:

>
> "PeterLucas" > wrote in message
>>
>> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it stops
>> the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta when you
>> drain
>> it off.
>
> I guess that is OK if you are serving the pasta with oil. If you are
> putting a red sauce, you don't want it seal with oil.
>
>
>


I've never had that sort of problem.
(red sauce not sticking to the pasta.)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

PeterLucas wrote:
It's not a waste, Goom's.
>
> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it stops
> the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta when you drain
> it off.
>
I dunno if I need to smell oil when I probably have a fragrant pot of
sauce simmering away at the ready! A larger (or properly large enough)
pot of boiling water will solve boil over issues. Not using enough water
to allow the pasta to dance around in is a common problem. And I don't
want my pasta slicked down when I have my own sauce to dress it with.
It just is a totally unnecessary step. Honest.

PeterLucas wrote:
> Corey Richardson > wrote in
> :
>
>> Can this be true?
>>
>> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
>> tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!
>>
>> Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
>> containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.
>>
>> It looks like they were!
>
>
>
> I usually always put oil in my pasta water. Except for my homemade
> pasta.
>
>
> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it
> stops the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta
> when you drain it off.
>
> Gordon *can't* be wrong!! He copied off me ;-)


Good lord. Who cares? I never put oil in water for pasta.

Jill

Goomba > wrote in
:

> PeterLucas wrote:
> It's not a waste, Goom's.
>>
>> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it
>> stops the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta
>> when you drain it off.
>>
> I dunno if I need to smell oil when I probably have a fragrant pot of
> sauce simmering away at the ready! A larger (or properly large enough)
> pot of boiling water will solve boil over issues. Not using enough
> water to allow the pasta to dance around in is a common problem. And I
> don't want my pasta slicked down when I have my own sauce to dress it
> with. It just is a totally unnecessary step. Honest.
>


Pots are an issue at the moment, especially for spaghetti etc.

So for some, it's a helper.

But on that issue, I've just bought a few of these.......

http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/Cord..._Pasta_Cooker-
p-808.html

http://tinyurl.com/6efl47

Got a few extras for Christmas presents :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

"jmcquown" > wrote in news:6nkh0oFlq86hU1
@mid.individual.net:


>>
>> Gordon *can't* be wrong!! He copied off me ;-)
>
>
> Good lord. Who cares? I never put oil in water for pasta.
>



Eggzackree....... who really cares. To each his own.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

"PeterLucas" > wrote in message
. 25...
> Pots are an issue at the moment, especially for spaghetti etc.
>
> So for some, it's a helper.
>
> But on that issue, I've just bought a few of these.......
>
> http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/Cord..._Pasta_Cooker-
> p-808.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6efl47
>
> Got a few extras for Christmas presents :-)

I've got one of those too, but I call it a kettle.

"PeterLucas" > wrote in message
. 25...
> Pots are an issue at the moment, especially for spaghetti etc.
>
> So for some, it's a helper.
>
> But on that issue, I've just bought a few of these.......
>
> http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/Cord..._Pasta_Cooker-
> p-808.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6efl47
>
> Got a few extras for Christmas presents :-)

I've got one of those too, but I call it a kettle.

"Michael" > wrote in news:49153d57$0
:

> "PeterLucas" > wrote in message
> . 25...
>> Pots are an issue at the moment, especially for spaghetti etc.
>>
>> So for some, it's a helper.
>>
>> But on that issue, I've just bought a few of these.......
>>
>>
http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/Cord..._Pasta_Cooker-
>> p-808.html
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6efl47
>>
>> Got a few extras for Christmas presents :-)
>
> I've got one of those too, but I call it a kettle.
>
>
>


So you cook your pasta in your kettle, hey?

Must make the tea or coffee taste a bit funny.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Goomba wrote:
> PeterLucas wrote:
> It's not a waste, Goom's.
>>
>> It has a threefold effect.... it smells nice when it's boiling, it
>> stops the water from bubbling over the rim, and it coats the pasta
>> when you drain it off.
>>
> I dunno if I need to smell oil when I probably have a fragrant pot of
> sauce simmering away at the ready! A larger (or properly large enough)
> pot of boiling water will solve boil over issues. Not using enough
> water to allow the pasta to dance around in is a common problem. And
> I don't want my pasta slicked down when I have my own sauce to dress
> it with. It just is a totally unnecessary step. Honest.

[cross-posting snipped]

I totally agree. I never put oil in the pasta water. What's the point? If
properly cooked it doesn't stick together in the first place. And I'd
rather not smell olive oil (or any other oil) cooking when I'm boiling
pasta. Especially not when I've got a fragrant sauce to put on the pasta.
Again, what's the point? Corey just ran out of Burger King and fast food
troll ideas so he's decided to blame Gordon Ramsay for his cooking foibles.

Jill

"Corey Richardson" > wrote in message
...
> Can this be true?
>
> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
> tonight in salted water containing olive oil live on UK TV!
>
> Maybe those (pseudo Italians) who berate it (cooking pasta in water
> containing olive oil) so much are wrong again.
>
> It looks like they were!

Don't believe everything these "stars" tell you. In Kitchen Confidential the
famous author said you must never wash a non stick frying pan, just give it a
wipe after use.

--
Pete

On 2008-11-08, Corey Richardson > wrote:
>
> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta

I assume you mean 1 and 2 Michelin Stars. There is no such award as 12 MS,
3 stars being the highest.

nb

notbob > wrote in
:

> On 2008-11-08, Corey Richardson >
> wrote:
>>
>> Gordon Ramsay, who has been awarded 12 Michelin Stars, cooked pasta
>
> I assume you mean 1 and 2 Michelin Stars. There is no such award as
> 12 MS, 3 stars being the highest.
>
> nb
>


How many stars has he been awarded all up?



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

On 2008-11-08, PeterLucas > wrote:

> How many stars has he been awarded all up?

Maybe that's what he meant, but MSs are not cumulative, nonetheless.

nb

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-11-08, PeterLucas > wrote:
>
> > How many stars has he been awarded all up?
>
> Maybe that's what he meant, but MSs are not cumulative, nonetheless.

It's a total of 12 over all his restaurants. Two of them have three
stars, the highest Michelin awards.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 2008-11-08, Default User > wrote:

> It's a total of 12 over all his restaurants. Two of them have three
> stars, the highest Michelin awards.

Thanks for the clarification. OTOH, if you can make one fantastic flan, you
should be able to make two, which is my point.

nb

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-11-08, Default User > wrote:
>
> > It's a total of 12 over all his restaurants. Two of them have three
> > stars, the highest Michelin awards.
>
> Thanks for the clarification. OTOH, if you can make one fantastic
> flan, you should be able to make two, which is my point.

I'm not following that. Do you mean that all his restaurants should be
three-star?



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"notbob" > wrote:
>
>> How many stars has he been awarded all up?
>
> Maybe that's what he meant, but MSs are not cumulative, nonetheless.
>
> nb

If he has four 3 star restaurants they would all count.

Giusi wrote about Gordon Ramsay's Michelin stars:

>>> How many stars has he been awarded all up?
>>
>> Maybe that's what he meant, but MSs are not cumulative, nonetheless.
>>
>> nb
>
> If he has four 3 star restaurants they would all count.


So hypothetically, then, let's award one-one-hundredth of a star to
McDonald's. How does Gordon Ramsay compare to the McDonald's total?

According to the McDonald's FAQ, "McDonald's operates over 31,000
restaurants worldwide". If each restaurant is given 0.01 star, that gives
McDonald's a whopping 310 stars!

Bob

Giusi wrote:

> "notbob" > wrote:
> >
> > > How many stars has he been awarded all up?
> >
> > Maybe that's what he meant, but MSs are not cumulative, nonetheless.
> >
> > nb
>
> If he has four 3 star restaurants they would all count.

He has like 25 restaurants total, around the world, some of which have
Michelin stars.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Default User" > wrote in message
>
> He has like 25 restaurants total, around the world, some of which have
> Michelin stars.
>
>

I wonder how he does it. Running that many restaurants and doing two US TV
shows and at least one UK TV show in a year he must have a 36 hour day.

On 2008-11-09, Default User > wrote:

> I'm not following that. Do you mean that all his restaurants should be
> three-star?

Sure.

That they are not is no doubt due to different menus, mgt, and maybe even
judges. Most restaurants can't even attain one star. His acquiring them by
the six-pak makes my point.

nb

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> "Default User" > wrote in message
> >
> > He has like 25 restaurants total, around the world, some of which
> > have Michelin stars.
> >
> >
>
> I wonder how he does it. Running that many restaurants and doing two
> US TV shows and at least one UK TV show in a year he must have a 36
> hour day.

Obviously he doesn't do the cooking at most of them on any regular
basis. He develops the menu, hires a head chef, gets them started,
moves on to the next.

I will say that he must be incredibly busy.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-11-09, Default User > wrote:
>
> > I'm not following that. Do you mean that all his restaurants should
> > be three-star?
>
> Sure.
>
> That they are not is no doubt due to different menus, mgt, and maybe
> even judges.

As he can't possibly be the head chef at 25 restaurants, so a lot will
depend on who he can find to run each place on a day-to-day basis.
Also, some are probably not even intended to be so. Three are pubs, and
one is in an airport "Ramsay's Plane Food".



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:47:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "Default User" > wrote in message
>>
>> He has like 25 restaurants total, around the world, some of which have
>> Michelin stars.
>>
>>
>
> I wonder how he does it. Running that many restaurants and doing two US TV
> shows and at least one UK TV show in a year he must have a 36 hour day.

i think he delegates some of the yelling and screaming.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:47:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "Default User" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> He has like 25 restaurants total, around the world, some of which
>>> have Michelin stars.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I wonder how he does it. Running that many restaurants and doing
>> two US TV shows and at least one UK TV show in a year he must have a
>> 36 hour day.
>
> i think he delegates some of the yelling and screaming.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his wife on
the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he managed to have
four children with her

Jill

jmcquown wrote:


> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his
> wife on the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he
> managed to have four children with her

In spite of everything, he manages to spend significant time at home.
His BBC show "The F Word" shows a lot of at home time with the wife and
kids, raising turkeys or pigs (for later consumption).




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

jmcquown wrote:

> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his wife
> on the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he managed
> to have four children with her
>
> Jill

Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
have her?

Goomba wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his
>> wife on the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he
>> managed to have four children with her

> Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
> have her?

(laugh!) No, because he's got 8 gazillion shows and restaurants,
where does he find time to see his wife.

nancy

On Nov 10, 1:38*pm, Goomba > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his wife
> > on the table in the restaurant with him. *I have no idea how he managed
> > to have four children with her
>
> > Jill
>
> Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
> have her?

I would think that she's turned off by all that yelling..."Don't you
think you could.....harder, wench?" LOL!!

merryb wrote:
> On Nov 10, 1:38 pm, Goomba > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his wife
>>> on the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he managed
>>> to have four children with her
>>> Jill
>> Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
>> have her?
>
> I would think that she's turned off by all that yelling..."Don't you
> think you could.....harder, wench?" LOL!!

Hey... in the opening to the old Anthony Bourdain show, it shows him in
the kitchen barking out orders to his staff.
<deep sigh> Anthony Bourdain can bark orders at me any day...<step back,
TammyM..he's MINE!>

On Nov 10, 4:24*pm, Goomba > wrote:
> merryb wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 1:38 pm, Goomba > wrote:
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his wife
> >>> on the table in the restaurant with him. *I have no idea how he managed
> >>> to have four children with her
> >>> Jill
> >> Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
> >> have her?
>
> > I would think that she's turned off by all that yelling..."Don't you
> > think you could.....harder, wench?" LOL!!
>
> Hey... in the opening to the old Anthony Bourdain show, it shows him in
> the kitchen barking out orders to his staff.
> <deep sigh> Anthony Bourdain can bark orders at me any day...<step back,
> TammyM..he's MINE!>

I've had chefs barking at me before- I even knew a chef that threw
knives.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:44:36 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:

> Goomba wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> I saw him on 'Kitchen Nightmares' last week, he had a photo of his
>>> wife on the table in the restaurant with him. I have no idea how he
>>> managed to have four children with her
>
>> Why? Was she particularly vile looking that you thought no one would
>> have her?
>
> (laugh!) No, because he's got 8 gazillion shows and restaurants,
> where does he find time to see his wife.
>
> nancy

possibly she likes it that way.

your pal,
blake