Martha wrote:

>
> First of all, I had a heck of a time finding RFC - didn't know it was
> a part of Google now. That was the beginning of my consternation.

It isn't part of Google. Google just carries it, along with all the
other USENET groups. I read USENET via individual.net and can't imagine
using Google to read unless I'm traveling away from my home computer.
>
> But, once I did find it, I had to wade through three pages of utter
> nonsense posts, and idiotic ads, et cetera, to find anything I
> recognized as the least bit RFC-like. I felt like I had walked into a
> room of chaos of the Nth magnitude.

Filters help, as well as having a news service provider that weeds out a
lot. I rarely see outright spam now, but the off topic crap is a
nuisance still.
>
> What I wanted to write was, "Jesus Christ! What the hell happened to
> RFC?" but I thought that might be offensive.
>
Not to me I feel the same way many times. I miss the "old days" of
good quality posters and on topic threads.

> From the time I first posted to RFC (1994 or '95 - whenever), there
> have been OT posts. I've participated in them -- might have started
> one or two, myself, can't remember. Oh, and flame wars and obnoxious,
> aggravating trolling. But I don't remember it being like this.

Everyone who starts one thinks they're somehow exempt from netiquette or
thinks their cat story, or politics rant or whatever is newsworthy.

> Not tsk-tsking or shaking a finger at what's happening - just
> expressing my dismay and confusion at what I found. Maybe it's more
> to the point to say what I didn't find.
>
> Nothing stays the same...life (and RFC) goes on...and other, similar,
> quasi-philosophical cliches. I'm jiggy with that, as my grandson
> says, every now and then.
>
> Martha

Stick around and jump in with some food talk. We welcome it!

On Nov 8, 12:57*pm, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
> Let me make this simple. *I hate potted meat. *So, if I see a can of potted
> meat and open it and taste it and complain, how much sense does that make?

None whatsoever, Steve.


> It's the same way with newsgroups and threads. *The subject says 'Palin does
> this" of "Mc Cain does that" or "The liberals suck" or whatever.
>
> Gee, I wonder what that is about. *Let's open it and see.

Ah, Friend, therein lies the rub, you see. The title of the Usenet
group is rec.food.cooking. From my past experience, upon which I was
relying quite heavily, I expected to find a good many posts about
food. I logged into it thinking I would find what I was searching for
(recipe and old friends) rather quickly.
>
> Sheesh.

My sentiment exactly. I found titles to posts I wouldn't dream of
opening even if you paid me good money. I paged through thread after
thread that belonged to newsgroups like rec.sex.nauseatingads or rec.i-
hate-non-whites.racism or rec.lick my.dick -- all full of wonderful
recipes or talk about food or really interesting OT stuff, I'm sure,
but I couldn't tell by the title. Nor was I tempted by the title to
investigate.
>
> If you can't killfile, or at least use the little arrows on your keyboard,

I know about the little arrows on the computer (learned yesterday, as
a matter of fact), but I don't remember how to killfile. Wouldst be
so kind, Friend, as to instruct me?

> ...load up your computer and take it to charity. *You're too dumb to own it.

I may very well be too dumb to own this computer, but I'm smart enough
to recognize a flame-thrower when I see one.

> My opinion only. *Yours may vary.

It does, indeed.

Thank you for your helpful, thoughtful post, Steve. I have learned
something from it.

Martha

> First thing to do, if you are interested in continuing to read and post
> here, is to find a real newsreader. *Sadly enough, googlegroups has such
> a bad reputation that many of the reputable posters here simply block
> every post from there.
>
> --
> Dan Abel

Hello, Dan. I remember you from when I was here a few years ago.

Steve B may be correct, maybe I am too dumb to own my computer. BTAIM,
I use Comcast for my Internet connection. Is a newsreader something I
subscribe to separately?

Thanks for telling me the difference between newsreader access to RFC
and the Googlegroups. Didn't know that.
Martha

Let me make this simple. I hate potted meat. So, if I see a can of potted
meat and open it and taste it and complain, how much sense does that make?

It's the same way with newsgroups and threads. The subject says 'Palin does
this" of "Mc Cain does that" or "The liberals suck" or whatever.

Gee, I wonder what that is about. Let's open it and see.

Sheesh.

If you can't killfile, or at least use the little arrows on your keyboard,
load up your computer and take it to charity. You're too dumb to own it.

My opinion only. Yours may vary.

Steve

On Nov 8, 12:42*pm, "l, not -l" > wrote:
> occasional potted meat sandwich on white bread (Bunny brand) with a layer of
> bread and butter pickles.

Here is a great "small batch" bread and butter pickle recipe I just
tried.... Very good!

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Homemade Bread And Butter Pickles

Pickles

5 pickling cucumbers
4 slices fresh horseradish
4 sprigs fresh dill weed
1 cup white vinegar
1 cup sugar
3 cups water
4 cloves garlic, peeled
2 tablespoons pickling spice
2 teaspoons turmeric
salt & pepper
mason jars; sterilized by boil

Wash cucumbers, slice into 1/4-inch thick rounds, and place in a
heated,
sterilized mason jar with horseradish and fresh dill weed.

Set a large pot over medium heat and add vinegar, sugar, water, garlic
and
pickling spices. Bring the brine to a boil then pour over cucumbers
and
horseradish in still-hot mason jar and seal lid. Allow to cool to room
temperature before refrigerating. You can serve once chilled, but for
best
flavor serve after the pickles have been left overnight.


** Exported from Now You're Cooking! v5.84 **

Martha wrote:
>> First thing to do, if you are interested in continuing to read and post
>> here, is to find a real newsreader. Sadly enough, googlegroups has such
>> a bad reputation that many of the reputable posters here simply block
>> every post from there.
>>
>> --
>> Dan Abel
>
> Hello, Dan. I remember you from when I was here a few years ago.
>
> Steve B may be correct, maybe I am too dumb to own my computer. BTAIM,
> I use Comcast for my Internet connection. Is a newsreader something I
> subscribe to separately?
>
> Thanks for telling me the difference between newsreader access to RFC
> and the Googlegroups. Didn't know that.
> Martha

I subscribe to individual.net (on the recommendation of Blinky, our RFC
resident shark) and the cost is very nominal. I was tired of Comcast's
poor service for USENET even before they dropped it. I'm considering
dropping Comcast also since they dropped USENET service yet didn't
bother to drop their price.
I use a simple Mozilla free browser called Thunderbird (and Firefox) to
read.

In article
>,
Martha > wrote:

> > First thing to do, if you are interested in continuing to read and post
> > here, is to find a real newsreader. *Sadly enough, googlegroups has such
> > a bad reputation that many of the reputable posters here simply block
> > every post from there.

> Hello, Dan. I remember you from when I was here a few years ago.

I remember you, also. Nice to see you back.

> Steve B may be correct, maybe I am too dumb to own my computer.

The computer is just a tool. Some people are into them for themselves,
others just use them to accomplish what they want.

> I use Comcast for my Internet connection. Is a newsreader something I
> subscribe to separately?

It sticks in my mind that Comcast is one of those who dumped newsgroup
access. Look for posts from Blinky. He has advice in his .sig about
how to access newsgroups. First thing to know is whether you have a Mac
or a PC.

> Thanks for telling me the difference between newsreader access to RFC
> and the Googlegroups. Didn't know that.

Several people here use googlegroups, although some just for emergencies.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:07:55 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>
>> Incorrect attribution, Chris! I certainly didn't meet a wife in
>> California on this ng! <wink>
>>
>> Jill
>
> Okay, blame the fact that I just got home from working a busy 12 hour
> shift..and am just NOW getting something to eat.. I didn't have time
> to eat last night..and I am TIRED!!!
>
> I thought I was quoting Peter... Sorry Jill!!
>
> Christine


LOL It's okay, it struck me as funny. Enjoy your meal and get some rest!

Jill

Martha wrote:

> > First thing to do, if you are interested in continuing to read and
> > post here, is to find a real newsreader. *Sadly enough,
> > googlegroups has such a bad reputation that many of the reputable
> > posters here simply block every post from there.

> Steve B may be correct, maybe I am too dumb to own my computer. BTAIM,
> I use Comcast for my Internet connection. Is a newsreader something I
> subscribe to separately?

Not a newsreader, but a usenet service.

Unfortunately for you, Comcast recently dropped usenet. However, there
are free alternatives. I've heard good things about:

http://albasani.net/
http://motzarella.org/ (although some reported problems this week)

Somewhat less good about:

http://aioe.org/

A low-cost and very reliable service is:

http://news.individual.net



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

In article
>,
Martha > wrote:

> On Nov 8, 12:57*pm, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:
> > Let me make this simple. *I hate potted meat. *So, if I see a can of potted
> > meat and open it and taste it and complain, how much sense does that make?
>
> None whatsoever, Steve.

> but I couldn't tell by the title. Nor was I tempted by the title to
> investigate.
> >
> > If you can't killfile, or at least use the little arrows on your keyboard,
>
> I know about the little arrows on the computer (learned yesterday, as
> a matter of fact), but I don't remember how to killfile. Wouldst be
> so kind, Friend, as to instruct me?

There's a second reason not to use googlegroups. There is no killfile
capability. If Steve is such a knowledgeable person about these things,
he should know that.

I didn't have a killfile for many, many years. I used my brain instead.
After practice, I got pretty good at figuring out what to look at and
what to skip. When I got a new Mac, my old newsreader was no longer
supported under the new OS. The author suggested upgrading to a
different version. It was still free, but came from a different place
(even though it was almost identical) and had more features, including a
killfile.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Martha" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> You go away for a couple of years and when you check back in to see
>> how your old rfc buddies are doing, it's like you opened the door to
>> somebody's nightmare world.
>>
>> Are recipes germane any more?
>>
>> Nancy Dooley, Barb Schaller...you guys still around?
>
>
> It sure has changed. Mostly it is all OT stuff and the only food
> topics is when somebody posts about cooking and has their ass nailed
> to a wall for committing an act of sacrilege against the food gods. But
> you can delight in the posts where people describe the lunmch
> they ate at a restaurant or that Jill is having fish sticks for
> dinner.
> Paul

I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much batter,
grease and salt. For those days when you want an old, childhood, comfort
food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in this group prefer?

kili

On Nov 8, 1:12*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:

> It sticks in my mind that Comcast is one of those who dumped newsgroup
> access. *Look for posts from Blinky. *He has advice in his .sig about
> how to access newsgroups. *First thing to know is whether you have a Mac
> or a PC.
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
>

AND...
GOOMBA wrote:
I subscribe to individual.net (on the recommendation of Blinky, our
RFC
resident shark) and the cost is very nominal. I was tired of
Comcast's
poor service for USENET even before they dropped it. I'm considering
dropping Comcast also since they dropped USENET service yet didn't
bother to drop their price.
I use a simple Mozilla free browser called Thunderbird (and Firefox)
to
read.

Thank you both for your responses.

I have a PC. Back when I was still married, my ex-beloved took care
of the computers and we used a local ISP. We had Forte Agent, which
we lost when we dropped the local ISP for Comcast.

I found a website a couple of minutes ago that explains Usenet and
recommends different newsreaders, some free, some shareware and others
you subscribe to or buy outright. I'll look into subscribing, or
finding another way into RFC, but for now, I weed through the garbage
here to get to the good stuff.

I will check out/with Blinky, too. Again, thank you, Dan and Goomba,
for your help.

OB: Food - I recently discovered chili grind in the meat section of
the local grocery store. I used it for making veggie-beef soup the
other day when I was in a hurry -- not too bad. I'll try it in meat
loaf or spaghetti sauce. Beef is beef, right?

"kilikini"
ha scritto nel messaggio

> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
> bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much batter,
> grease and salt. For those days when you want an old, childhood, comfort
> food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in this group prefer?
>
> kili

Hi! I see you are feeling better. Have no fish stick brands in mind at
all. Wasn't there one called Snow's?
>
>

On Nov 8, 1:22*pm, "Default User" > wrote:
>there
> are free alternatives. I've heard good things about:
>
> *http://albasani.net/
> *http://motzarella.org/(although some reported problems this week)
>
> Somewhat less good about:
>
> *http://aioe.org/
>
> A low-cost and very reliable service is:
>
> *http://news.individual.net
>
> Brian

Thank you, Brian.

M

"Martha" > wrote in message
...

<snip>
Mostly just wanted to see if Barb and Nancy and some others I used to
'talk' to here were still around. And search for an apple cake recipe
I posted here I-can't-remember-when.

I noticed Sheldon is still here. How about Moosemeat?

Martha

Moosemeat passed on the the giant pie in the sky.

Dimitri

Martha wrote:

> On Nov 7, 11:03 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>
> > Martha wrote:

> I noticed Sheldon is still here. How about Moosemeat?
> -------
> GM replies:
>
> Okay, my apologies...
>
> Barb is still around here a lot...so is Nancy...unfortunately dear Moosie
> passed away a few years ago to that Big Boiled Rib Paradise In The Sky...
>

Nothing good lasts forever, and that includes Moosie. Rest in Peace,
Moosemeat.
----------------

GM replies:

I always liked his story about the chicken legs...I still tell it once in a
while and sometimes peeps actually *believe* it...


--
Best
Greg

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> > It sure has changed. Mostly it is all OT stuff and the only food
>> > topics is when somebody posts about cooking and has their ass nailed
>> > to a wall for committing an act of sacrilege against the food gods. But
>> > you can delight in the posts where people describe the lunmch
>> > they ate at a restaurant or that Jill is having fish sticks for
>> > dinner.
>> > Paul
>>
>>
>> You're an asshole, Paul. You think poor people in Ireland ate corned
>> beef,
>> fer crying out loud. And you think corned beef is "spicy food". FOAD.
>
> A typical "witty interchange" between two frequent posters.


She just can't contain her lust for me is all. It's obvious.

Paul

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>> "Martha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > ...or an episode of Twilight Zone From Hell?
>> >
>> > You go away for a couple of years and when you check back in to see
>> > how your old rfc buddies are doing, it's like you opened the door to
>> > somebody's nightmare world.
>
>> It sure has changed. Mostly it is all OT stuff and the only food topics
>> is
>> when somebody posts about cooking and has their ass nailed to a wall for
>> committing an act of sacrilege against the food gods. But you can
>> delight
>> in the posts where people describe the lunmch they ate at a restaurant or
>> that Jill is having fish sticks for dinner.
>
> A good example of someone getting their ass nailed to a wall, in this
> case, for nothing at all in this thread.


Yes well those that cast stones should not live in glass houses. And those
who wear gorilla masks and dance naked on pianos should take a lesson from
them. If ya get my drift <wink>

Paul

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:37:41 -0500, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
>bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much batter,
>grease and salt. For those days when you want an old, childhood, comfort
>food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in this group prefer?

Hi Girly! I see you're feeling good enough to post! Back in the Day
when I tossed fish sticks in the oven for kiddie snacks, Gorton's were
my favorite - but I make chicken nuggets now. Hmm. I'm hungry and
that's an easy lunch.

<hugz>


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

kilikini wrote:
> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Martha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> You go away for a couple of years and when you check back in to see
>>> how your old rfc buddies are doing, it's like you opened the door to
>>> somebody's nightmare world.
>>>
>>> Are recipes germane any more?
>>>
>>> Nancy Dooley, Barb Schaller...you guys still around?
>>
>>
>> It sure has changed. Mostly it is all OT stuff and the only food
>> topics is when somebody posts about cooking and has their ass nailed
>> to a wall for committing an act of sacrilege against the food gods.
>> But you can delight in the posts where people describe the lunmch
>> they ate at a restaurant or that Jill is having fish sticks for
>> dinner.
>> Paul
>
> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
> bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much
> batter, grease and salt. For those days when you want an old,
> childhood, comfort food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in
> this group prefer?
> kili


The last ones I bought were Mrs. Pauls Battered, not breaded. Thanks
for talking with me on the phone earlier. I've been worried about you.

Jill

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Martha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> You go away for a couple of years and when you check back in to see
>>> how your old rfc buddies are doing, it's like you opened the door to
>>> somebody's nightmare world.
>>>
>>> Are recipes germane any more?
>>>
>>> Nancy Dooley, Barb Schaller...you guys still around?
>>
>>
>> It sure has changed. Mostly it is all OT stuff and the only food
>> topics is when somebody posts about cooking and has their ass nailed
>> to a wall for committing an act of sacrilege against the food gods. But
>> you can delight in the posts where people describe the lunmch
>> they ate at a restaurant or that Jill is having fish sticks for
>> dinner.
>> Paul
>
> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
> bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much batter,
> grease and salt. For those days when you want an old, childhood, comfort
> food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in this group prefer?
>

I am more of a corn dog kind of guy when I want pre-packaged slop from the
market. Slop is good sometimes. But I sure wouldn't post about it on a
cooking group unless I made them myself. Which I think I'll do after
watching St Alton whip up a batch on his show. Mrs. Paul's whole cod
fillets are pretty decent if you heat them properly by flipping them halfway
through so the underside doesn't get all soggy.

Paul

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:37:41 -0500, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
> >I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen store
> >bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too much batter,
> >grease and salt. For those days when you want an old, childhood, comfort
> >food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in this group prefer?
>
> Hi Girly! I see you're feeling good enough to post! Back in the Day
> when I tossed fish sticks in the oven for kiddie snacks, Gorton's were
> my favorite - but I make chicken nuggets now. Hmm. I'm hungry and
> that's an easy lunch.
>
> <hugz>

Welcome back Kili. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Martha wrote:
>> i also find it amusing that those who complain of non-cooking discussions
>> are almost invariably guilty of making OT posts themselves. and the 'i've
>> been posting here since 19xx' people sound like grampa simpson.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake-
>
> Hmmm...I don't know if your comment was meant to include my original
> post about RFC, Blake, but I feel the need to clarify what I asked
> about.
>
> First of all, I had a heck of a time finding RFC - didn't know it was
> a part of Google now. That was the beginning of my consternation.
>
> But, once I did find it, I had to wade through three pages of utter
> nonsense posts, and idiotic ads, et cetera, to find anything I
> recognized as the least bit RFC-like. I felt like I had walked into a
> room of chaos of the Nth magnitude.
>
> What I wanted to write was, "Jesus Christ! What the hell happened to
> RFC?" but I thought that might be offensive.
>
> From the time I first posted to RFC (1994 or '95 - whenever), there
> have been OT posts. I've participated in them -- might have started
> one or two, myself, can't remember. Oh, and flame wars and obnoxious,
> aggravating trolling. But I don't remember it being like this.
>
> Not tsk-tsking or shaking a finger at what's happening - just
> expressing my dismay and confusion at what I found. Maybe it's more
> to the point to say what I didn't find.
>
> Nothing stays the same...life (and RFC) goes on...and other, similar,
> quasi-philosophical cliches. I'm jiggy with that, as my grandson
> says, every now and then.
>
> Martha
>
>
As others have pointed out, r.f.c. is still Usenet, and Google just
happens to carry Usenet; fortunately, Google Groups isn't a necessary
part of reading Usenet groups.

Numerous ISPs have dropped Usenet over the last several years,
necessitating the finding of alternate means of accessing it. I
subscribe to the motzarella news service -- free to read as well as
post, no binaries (groups are carried, but no images display) -- and
read Usenet via my email client Thunderbird's built-in newsreader.
Here's a link to the motzarella site in case you're interested in
following that route:
>
<http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home>

Martha wrote:


> I have a PC. Back when I was still married, my ex-beloved took care
> of the computers and we used a local ISP. We had Forte Agent, which
> we lost when we dropped the local ISP for Comcast.
>
> I found a website a couple of minutes ago that explains Usenet and
> recommends different newsreaders, some free, some shareware and others
> you subscribe to or buy outright. I'll look into subscribing, or
> finding another way into RFC, but for now, I weed through the garbage
> here to get to the good stuff.

I feel that there is still some confusion at your end regarding the
difference between news services and news readers. Agent is a reader.
It will work with almost any news service. You don't subscribe to a
newsreader. Some news services might provide a newsreader as part of
subscription. I personally don't think there's any reason to pay for a
reader with all the fine free ones available.

The news reader (Thunderbird, Agent, XNews, Outlook Express) is a tool.
It's like your browser. Just as you can use different browsers to
access the web, you can use different readers to access usenet. Also,
just as you can use many different ISPs with Firefox, you can use many
different news services with your favorite reader.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Dan Abel wrote:

> There's a second reason not to use googlegroups. There is no
> killfile capability. If Steve is such a knowledgeable person about
> these things, he should know that.

Apparently there's some sort of script-based plug-in for filtering for
GG use. I don't know much about it, including which browsers can use it
or how well it works.

That being said, I'd recommend getting a free news service and reader
if possible. GG is also highly unreliable, with outages lasting hours
or even days.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Martha wrote:
>
>>
>> First of all, I had a heck of a time finding RFC - didn't know it was
>> a part of Google now. That was the beginning of my consternation.
>
> It isn't part of Google. Google just carries it, along with all the other
> USENET groups. I read USENET via individual.net and can't imagine using
> Google to read unless I'm traveling away from my home computer.


Google owns what used to be Dejanews which was the official archival
resource for Usenet.

Paul

Martha > wrote in news:4d9f41f5-777d-49a3-8562-
:

> What I wanted to write was, "Jesus Christ! What the hell happened to
> RFC?" but I thought that might be offensive.

Only to Christians.

If you go through Google, what you see is a lot worse than what I see. The
group is inundated periodically with commercial stuff from China. I
subscribe to Giganews and I have set my reader to accept only posts with no
more than one crosspost (or is it two...). So I only see basically the
discussion side, with the odd cypher thrown in.

--

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

Goomba > wrote in news:6nm0fcFm5gadU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Google just carries it, along with all the
> other USENET groups.

Not all...they don't carry any binaries groups.

--

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

Martha > wrote in news:b3fcd5ef-d937-4397-8efc-
:

> From my past experience, upon which I was
> relying quite heavily, I expected to find a good many posts about
> food.

And there still are many. In fact, food probably still constitutes the
majority topic. But stop using Google groups...you're being misled by a
plethora of filterable crap.

--

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:09:06 -0500, flitterbit >
wrote:

>Martha wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> Not tsk-tsking or shaking a finger at what's happening - just
>> expressing my dismay and confusion at what I found. Maybe it's more
>> to the point to say what I didn't find.
>>
>> Nothing stays the same...life (and RFC) goes on...and other, similar,
>> quasi-philosophical cliches. I'm jiggy with that, as my grandson
>> says, every now and then.
>>
>> Martha
> >
> >
>As others have pointed out, r.f.c. is still Usenet, and Google just
>happens to carry Usenet; fortunately, Google Groups isn't a necessary
>part of reading Usenet groups.
>
>Numerous ISPs have dropped Usenet over the last several years,
>necessitating the finding of alternate means of accessing it. I
>subscribe to the motzarella news service -- free to read as well as
>post, no binaries (groups are carried, but no images display) -- and
>read Usenet via my email client Thunderbird's built-in newsreader.
>Here's a link to the motzarella site in case you're interested in
>following that route:
> >
><http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home>
>
I wanted binaries, so I subscribed to Forte's news server.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> >Numerous ISPs have dropped Usenet over the last several years,
> >necessitating the finding of alternate means of accessing it. I
> >subscribe to the motzarella news service -- free to read as well as
> >post, no binaries (groups are carried, but no images display) -- and
> >read Usenet via my email client Thunderbird's built-in newsreader.
> >Here's a link to the motzarella site in case you're interested in
> >following that route:
> > >
> ><http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home>
> >
> I wanted binaries, so I subscribed to Forte's news server.
>

To date, I've felt that Giganews has been well worth the price.
Reliable, excellent filters, and fast.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Michel Boucher wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote in
> news:G7iRk.3093$QF4.560 @newsfe13.ams2:

<snip>
>
>> Just
>> because somebody has been posting here for umpteen years doesn't
>> automatically make them any better at cooking than somebody that's
>> only been posting here for a couple of weeks/months/years, does it?
>
> Well, actually, one would hope so...otherwise it means that people are
> not here to learn, or that they are incapable of learning. So the
> longer you've been here (and I've been around since 1991, just for the
> record), the more you've absorbed and shared back.

Although I agree that's what one might hope, I've noticed that's not
always the case; some folks who keep reminding the group that they have
been around here since 19-dot (even if it's only on and off) seem to
post here just to 'stir up the pot' (and I don't mean that in a cooking
sense). The OP in this thread is a perfect example. I didn't see much
about cooking in that post, did you?
>
> I have changed quite a few things in my cooking, and for the better,
> after reading some excellent advice on rfc.

Ditto.

> If I was only interested
> in things other than cooking (as Squidgy has so kindly suggested) I
> would go hang out on soc.canada and butt heads with the neo-nazis
> there.
>
> And also for the record, this group is supposed to be fun, which is
> why it's in the rec (for recreational) group of the Big Eight, and not
> in clari.biz... or comp.infosystems...
>
> So to all the stiff shirts, I say "Unclench the buttcheeks already and
> stop being so frakkin' judgmental of OT postings (unless of course
> they are actual trolls, not just things you disagree with)."

Speaking as a newbie - having been posting here for only three and a
half years - I've noticed that the number of Off-topic posts seem to
increase the minute one of the 'stiff shirts' you mentioned start
moaning about them. Go figure.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Christine Dabney > wrote in
:
>>> I've been posting to ng's since 1990. I was posting here in 92/93.
>>> Actually met my Californian wife here on this very ng. We married in
>>> Jan '94. So that was probably the very first 'Internet marriage' :-)
>
> If you were posting to rfc then, you were probably not the first. Were
> you on rfc back in '94. Iain Liddell met his wife through rfc and was
> married to her by then. If you were here, then you might remember
> them.
>
> Christine


It's a loooooooooooong time ago, don't remember anyones names (except she
who's name shall not be invoked!!).

So I wasn't the first in the US, but I'm pretty sure I was the first for
Australia :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

"jmcquown" > wrote in
:

> Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:55:12 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> I've been posting to ng's since 1990. I was posting here in 92/93.
>>>> Actually met my Californian wife here on this very ng. We married
>>>> in Jan '94. So that was probably the very first 'Internet marriage'
>>>> :-)
>>
>> If you were posting to rfc then, you were probably not the first.
>> Were you on rfc back in '94. Iain Liddell met his wife through rfc
>> and was married to her by then. If you were here, then you might
>> remember them.
>>
>> Christine
>
>
> Incorrect attribution, Chris! I certainly didn't meet a wife in
> California on this ng! <wink>
>


Not that you'd tell us about it anyways!! :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Giusi wrote:
> "kilikini"
> ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen
>> store bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too
>> much batter, grease and salt. For those days when you want an old,
>> childhood, comfort food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in
>> this group prefer? kili
>
> Hi! I see you are feeling better. Have no fish stick brands in mind
> at all. Wasn't there one called Snow's?

I don't know, there may have been. The ones I recall were Mrs. Paul's,
Gorton's, and van de Kamp's.

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Giusi wrote:
>> "kilikini"
>> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen
>>> store bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too
>>> much batter, grease and salt. For those days when you want an old,
>>> childhood, comfort food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in
>>> this group prefer? kili
>>
>> Hi! I see you are feeling better. Have no fish stick brands in mind
>> at all. Wasn't there one called Snow's?
>
> I don't know, there may have been. The ones I recall were Mrs. Paul's,
> Gorton's, and van de Kamp's.
>

I like Mrs. Pauls. I think they have some corn meal in them, they have a
sweet taste.

Welcome back, kili.

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:YZnRk.3625$QF4.3160
@newsfe13.ams2:

> Michel Boucher wrote:
>

>>
>> So to all the stiff shirts, I say "Unclench the buttcheeks already
and
>> stop being so frakkin' judgmental of OT postings (unless of course
>> they are actual trolls, not just things you disagree with)."
>
> Speaking as a newbie - having been posting here for only three and a
> half years -



And you're already the Boss of the website!!
That's climbing the corporate ladder pretty quickly!! ;-)


> I've noticed that the number of Off-topic posts seem to
> increase the minute one of the 'stiff shirts' you mentioned start
> moaning about them. Go figure.
>


We'll have to organise a worldwide Buttcheek Unclenching Day :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:37:41 -0500, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen
>> store bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too
>> much batter, grease and salt. For those days when you want an old,
>> childhood, comfort food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in
>> this group prefer?
>
> Hi Girly! I see you're feeling good enough to post! Back in the Day
> when I tossed fish sticks in the oven for kiddie snacks, Gorton's were
> my favorite - but I make chicken nuggets now. Hmm. I'm hungry and
> that's an easy lunch.
>
> <hugz>

I haven't had chicken nuggets in a long time, either. Do you like a sauce
with yours?

kili

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:37:41 -0500, "kilikini"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I used to love fish sticks for dinner! I haven't had any frozen
>>> store bought in years, though, because I think most brands have too
>>> much batter, grease and salt. For those days when you want an old,
>>> childhood, comfort food, which brand of fish sticks does anyone in
>>> this group prefer?
>>
>> Hi Girly! I see you're feeling good enough to post! Back in the Day
>> when I tossed fish sticks in the oven for kiddie snacks, Gorton's
>> were my favorite - but I make chicken nuggets now. Hmm. I'm hungry
>> and that's an easy lunch.
>>
>> <hugz>
>
> Welcome back Kili. :-)

Thanks, Om!

kili

On Nov 8, 4:12*pm, "Default User" > wrote:

> I feel that there is still some confusion at your end regarding the
> difference between news services and news readers.

Evidently so.

> The news reader (Thunderbird, Agent, XNews, Outlook Express) is a tool.
> It's like your browser. Just as you can use different browsers to
> access the web, you can use different readers to access usenet. Also,
> just as you can use many different ISPs with Firefox, you can use many
> different news services with your favorite reader.
>
> Brian

This is the site I found and skimmed over, with the intention of
reading it more thoroughly later: http://www.newsreaders.info

Thank you for your help.

Martha