Dan Abel > wrote in
:


>> Eating what??
>
> A toasted bagel with cream cheese.
>


You could stick the bagel on one extended finger and it'll save you getting
cream cheese on all of them :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> I think there's a Blogspot 101 course where they teach
>
> HI!!1!!! I'M nEW TO YOuR GROOP! COME SEE mY BLOG!!!
>
> and that the idea is to never return to the group you've spammed.

Only fair as I never visit their blogs.

nancy

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Dan Abel > wrote in
> :
>
>
> >> Eating what??
> >
> > A toasted bagel with cream cheese.
> >
>
>
> You could stick the bagel on one extended finger and it'll save you getting
> cream cheese on all of them :-)

You are just no fun at all! Half of the enjoyment is licking the cream
cheese off of my fingers!

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel > wrote in
:

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>
>> >> Eating what??
>> >
>> > A toasted bagel with cream cheese.
>> >
>>
>>
>> You could stick the bagel on one extended finger and it'll save you
>> getting cream cheese on all of them :-)
>
> You are just no fun at all!



Au contraire......... I have been told I should slow down and stop
having soooooo much fun!! Apparently, I'm not 35 anymore :-(



> Half of the enjoyment is licking the
> cream cheese off of my fingers!


"Mummy, mummy!! Can I lick the bowl??"

"No!! Flush it like everyone else!!"




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

Nancy Young wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> I think there's a Blogspot 101 course where they teach
>>
>> HI!!1!!! I'M nEW TO YOuR GROOP! COME SEE mY BLOG!!!
>>
>> and that the idea is to never return to the group you've spammed.
>
> Only fair as I never visit their blogs.

But you don't hit-and-run spam them, either. So it's really not tit for
tat after all.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:30:50 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:55:40 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>>
>> >It appears that the site may be spam.
>> >There is master site with all of recipes on it.
>>
>> Now I'm curious. I didn't go to the original posters site and have
>> deleted all subsequent posts. Please post the url of the master site.
>
>CAUTION - spam ahead:
>
>http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/

Thanks, Dan. I have adblock installed so it was clean as a whistle.
In fact the recipes looked fine to me and not in a Sandra Lee way.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"Dan Abel"
> sf < wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:55:40 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>> >It appears that the site may be spam. >> >There is master site with all
>> >of recipes on it.
>>
>> Now I'm curious. I didn't go to the original posters site and have
>> deleted all subsequent posts. Please post the url of the master site.
>
> CAUTION - spam ahead:
>
> http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/
>
> --
> Dan Abel

What is wrong with you people? Spam is unwelcome email or flagrant
commercial attempts, not personal blogs. This blog is different in NO WAY
to Koko's blog other than that you know Koko and you don't know this newbie.

Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.

I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet connection,
which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not very.

Otherwise, bloggers buy the food, experiment, throw away the failures and
publish free the recipes that work, or they sometimes cook from books and
just blog about their experiences with said books and recipes. There is no
underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell you a subscription, fool
you into buying inferior veg and meat nor junk foods in ernd of aisle
displays-- all of which you tolerate very well, but the second someone does
something on the internet you insult them by calling them spammers. Nor are
these sites that implant spyware on your computer.

As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you will only
listen to the radio where you get all your news and entertainment.

Giusi wrote:

> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
> entertainment.

Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
can I join your group?? and it's just them pushing their blog
so we all click on it. Well, not all of us, but that's what they
hope. So they can make a few bucks.

I know where to find recipes, I don't need to randomly look
at some site hoping they *might* have something interesting.
Maybe if they talked it up instead of pretending they're looking
to interact with the group it would be more palatable.

Instead they just drop a line and disappear. What would
lead me to be interested in their blog?

nancy

"Giusi" > wrote in
:

> "Dan Abel"
>> sf < wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:55:40 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>>
>>> >It appears that the site may be spam. >> >There is master site
>>> >with all of recipes on it.
>>>
>>> Now I'm curious. I didn't go to the original posters site and have
>>> deleted all subsequent posts. Please post the url of the master
>>> site.
>>
>> CAUTION - spam ahead:
>>
>> http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/
>>
>> --
>> Dan Abel
>
> What is wrong with you people? Spam is unwelcome email or flagrant
> commercial attempts, not personal blogs. This blog is different in NO
> WAY to Koko's blog other than that you know Koko and you don't know
> this newbie.
>
> Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.
>
> I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet
> connection, which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not very.
>
> Otherwise, bloggers buy the food, experiment, throw away the failures
> and publish free the recipes that work, or they sometimes cook from
> books and just blog about their experiences with said books and
> recipes. There is no underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell
> you a subscription, fool you into buying inferior veg and meat nor
> junk foods in ernd of aisle displays-- all of which you tolerate very
> well, but the second someone does something on the internet you insult
> them by calling them spammers. Nor are these sites that implant
> spyware on your computer.
>
> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
> entertainment.
>
>
>



3 cheers for Giusi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well said mate :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

"Nancy Young" > wrote in news:d4WRk.11214
:

> Giusi wrote:
>
>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>> entertainment.
>
> Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
> can I join your group??



And how else are you to start??

Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they have
to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??


If you're this critical of every newbie that comes along and wants to
join the rfc 'family'........ *no-one* will join and sooner or later,
like the old Diggers from past wars, you'll all die out and rfc will
just wither and die with you.


As it is, if the OP is a genuine poster, the 'stick in the muds' of this
group have probably scared them off.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

Giusi wrote:

>
> What is wrong with you people? Spam is unwelcome email or flagrant
> commercial attempts, not personal blogs. This blog is different in NO
> WAY to Koko's blog other than that you know Koko and you don't know
> this newbie.

Oh, rubbish. koko didn't come in here saying "Hi, I'm new to the group,
blah blah blah" just to promote her blog - and neither did *you* (well
not that I recall) - and then never show up here again. Besides, I
don't see any adverts on koko's blog (even if there are any - that's
what Adblock is for).
>
> Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.

More rubbish. r.f.c. is supposed to be a 'non-commercial' ng whose
subscribers have an aversion to people using it for advertising; I've
only been around here 3 and half years and even *I* know that. Why do
you think I haven't bothered to put any adverts on the RFC site? Sure,
it would be nice to cover the cost of hosting fees (and my time) but I
don't, for that very reason. I easily could have, but then I sincerely
doubt that anybody would have looked at it twice (or sent in all their
contributions). I was even approached by a certain software company
that sells recipe software to promote their product on the site - for
which they would offer a few free copies of said software to give out
as 'prizes' for things like the surveys. I said no, because that would
just be the beginning of the end, IMHO.
>
> I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet
> connection,
> which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not very.

Look, a lot of bloggers do the same thing - but those that do
a 'drive-by' posting to r.f.c. are spammers. Period.

> Otherwise, bloggers buy the food, experiment, throw away the failures
> and publish free the recipes that work, or they sometimes cook from
> books and
> just blog about their experiences with said books and recipes. There
> is no underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell you a
> subscription, fool you into buying inferior veg and meat nor junk
> foods in ernd of aisle displays-- all of which you tolerate very well,
> but the second someone does
> something on the internet you insult them by calling them spammers.

<eye roll>

> Nor are these sites that implant spyware on your computer.

Can you guarantee that for every blog out there? I sincerely doubt it.
>
> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
> entertainment.

Speak for yourself. Please.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

>Giusi wrote:
[snip]
>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>> entertainment.

Hey! Leave me out of this -- I listen to the wireless. :-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> CAUTION - spam ahead:
>
> http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/

Looks like another food blog to me; what about it makes you warn of spam?

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
(Send her a note!)

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:02:58 -0800, Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:55:40 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>>>
>>> >It appears that the site may be spam.
>>> >There is master site with all of recipes on it.
>>>
>>> Now I'm curious. I didn't go to the original posters site and have
>>> deleted all subsequent posts. Please post the url of the master site.
>>
>> CAUTION - spam ahead:
>>
>> http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/
>
> I think there's a Blogspot 101 course where they teach
>
> HI!!1!!! I'M nEW TO YOuR GROOP! COME SEE mY BLOG!!!
>
> and that the idea is to never return to the group you've spammed.

....unless it is to whine piteously that they were only trying to help after
they get flamed. *then* leave in a huff.

yourpal,
blake

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they have
> to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??

I quit doing an intro a long time ago. I just lurk for a bit, then jump
in and start posting.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:13 +0100, Giusi wrote:

> "Dan Abel"
>> sf < wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:55:40 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>>
>>> >It appears that the site may be spam. >> >There is master site with all
>>> >of recipes on it.
>>>
>>> Now I'm curious. I didn't go to the original posters site and have
>>> deleted all subsequent posts. Please post the url of the master site.
>>
>> CAUTION - spam ahead:
>>
>> http://www.householdrecipes.blogspot.com/
>>
>> --
>> Dan Abel
>
> What is wrong with you people? Spam is unwelcome email or flagrant
> commercial attempts, not personal blogs. This blog is different in NO WAY
> to Koko's blog other than that you know Koko and you don't know this newbie.
>
> Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.
>
> I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet connection,
> which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not very.
>
> Otherwise, bloggers buy the food, experiment, throw away the failures and
> publish free the recipes that work, or they sometimes cook from books and
> just blog about their experiences with said books and recipes. There is no
> underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell you a subscription, fool
> you into buying inferior veg and meat nor junk foods in ernd of aisle
> displays-- all of which you tolerate very well, but the second someone does
> something on the internet you insult them by calling them spammers. Nor are
> these sites that implant spyware on your computer.
>
> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you will only
> listen to the radio where you get all your news and entertainment.

yes, but you're 'family' and so is koko. that's a little different from
parachuting in and dropping your u.r.l. bomb.

maybe you can tell me this, though: as i understand it, you're paid for
the blog ads on the basis of page visits, right? does the system account
for those who visit but have some kind of ad-blocker software on their
browsers?

your curious pal,
blake

PeterLucas wrote:

<snip!>
>
> 3 cheers for Giusi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Well said mate :-)
>
>
<sniff>

I thought she was talking the biggest load of rubbish... how can she
compare koko (or herself, for that matter) to spammers? Hmmmm? There
are many r.f.c.-ers that are into food blogging, but you don't see them
pushing their blogs just to get the revenue from the the adverts (if
they have them).

Besides, folks 'round here have been pretty good with genuine 'newbies'
recently, IMHO; it's the spammers *pretending* to be newbies that seem
to get quite a few knickers all twisted. And I happen to agree.

However, no matter what you think about Guisi's post, I won't hold it
against you (for more than five minutes). <grin>

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:34:01 GMT, Phred wrote:

>>Giusi wrote:
> [snip]
>>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>>> entertainment.
>
> Hey! Leave me out of this -- I listen to the wireless. :-)
>
> Cheers, Phred.

i bet the antipodean radio waves are upside-down anyway.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:32:54 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>>
>>> I used to use Safari but switched to Firefox. I really do like it
>>> better!
>>>
>>> Come to the Dark Side Dan. We have cookies. ;-)
>>
>> That is the problem. Cookies.
>
> Nah. Biscuits.

goddamn foreigners.

your all-american pal,
blake

PeterLucas wrote:


> And how else are you to start??

Lurk for a while to get the lay of the land, then introduce yourself,
don a flak jacket, and just dive in. One doesn't have to put a link
into their blog as blatantly as the pseudo newbies do. A lot of folks
just put a link to their blogs in their sig line, or post links to them
on request.
>
> Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they
> have to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??
>

Not that I am aware of. I don't recall kissing any arses, and a few of
the 'regulars' (including Bob P. made me feel very welcome)...
>
> If you're this critical of every newbie that comes along and wants to
> join the rfc 'family'........ *no-one* will join and sooner or later,
> like the old Diggers from past wars, you'll all die out and rfc will
> just wither and die with you.
>
> As it is, if the OP is a genuine poster, the 'stick in the muds' of
> this group have probably scared them off.

If that was a 'genuine poster' then my cod's a kipper. (That's the
OBFood part)...

More OBFood: Chicken livers on the menu tonight.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

PeterLucas wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
>> can I join your group??

> And how else are you to start??

Is that how you started? Not likely.

> Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they
> have to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??

Feel free to believe that the person posted directions to
their blog twice in a matter of minutes and disappeared
actually wants to talk food or anything else with you.

nancy

ChattyCathy > wrote in newsnXRk.10459
:


>>
>> I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet
>> connection,
>> which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not very.
>
> Look, a lot of bloggers do the same thing - but those that do
> a 'drive-by' posting to r.f.c. are spammers. Period.


CC, I'm going to have to disagree.


"Definitions of spammers on the Web:

* The perpetrators of email spam, who send nearly identical messages
to thousands (or millions) of recipients. ..."



A quick (Google) check of her ID reveals *2* posts into rfc.


Hardly a "spammer".


>
>> Otherwise, bloggers buy the food, experiment, throw away the failures
>> and publish free the recipes that work, or they sometimes cook from
>> books and
>> just blog about their experiences with said books and recipes. There
>> is no underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell you a
>> subscription, fool you into buying inferior veg and meat nor junk
>> foods in ernd of aisle displays-- all of which you tolerate very
well,
>> but the second someone does
>> something on the internet you insult them by calling them spammers.
>
> <eye roll>
>
>> Nor are these sites that implant spyware on your computer.
>
> Can you guarantee that for every blog out there? I sincerely doubt it.


Do you look at Koko's blog?? I do.

What about all the blogs attached to hers? I do.

Did you look at the OP's site and get spyware planted on your computer??


I looked, and nothing happened to my computer.


>>
>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>> entertainment.
>
> Speak for yourself. Please.



Grasshopper (yes, you've been demoted!!)........ you need to be as the
bamboo, and bow with the wind.




If a newbie comes in here with a website/blog..... and it's *got*
recipes on the site, you've gotta cut them some slack.
If they screw up....... *then* you kill them.


But at least give them a fighting chance.




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

(Phred) wrote in news:6nqusiFbul1U2
@mid.individual.net:

>>Giusi wrote:
> [snip]
>>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>>> entertainment.
>
> Hey! Leave me out of this -- I listen to the wireless. :-)
>


So you crank it........ or you are a crank??? :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:tzYRk.4340$2l5.3223
@newsfe01.iad:


>
> However, no matter what you think about Guisi's post, I won't hold it
> against you (for more than five minutes). <grin>
>



Well....... if you hold it against me...... you'd only come up to my belly
button anyway, short-stuff :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

blake murphy > wrote in news:ktn7l6edxx0j
:

>>>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>>>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>>>> entertainment.
>>
>> Hey! Leave me out of this -- I listen to the wireless. :-)
>
> i bet the antipodean radio waves are upside-down anyway.

And from right to left...

--

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:WJYRk.4342$2l5.2351
@newsfe01.iad:

> PeterLucas wrote:
>
>
>> And how else are you to start??
>
> Lurk for a while to get the lay of the land, then introduce yourself,
> don a flak jacket, and just dive in.


Sorry, CC, but that's crap.


I only put body armour (flak jacket) on when I'm going into a hostile
environment.


Is rfc a hostile environment?


Is that what you do at parties... lurk, watch, wait??


I don't.


I talk to people. If you don't like what I say, killfile me/ignore me. I'm
not going to lose any sleep over it.


But I'll be ****ed if I'm going to bow down to some imaginary 'hierarchy'
just to post some recipes!!!



But........ to give you a bit of a history........ I joined a ng a
looooooooong while ago.

I jumped in and joined the conversations.

Then the 'older' ng members decided to take umbrage at the "newbie" who
wouldn't bow down to them, or wouldn't take their insults and abuse whilst
laying on the ground in a quivering mess.

You see, these 'older' ng members thought that the ng was *theirs* and
because they had been there for longer than anyone, they "owned" it. Their
opinion was "I've been here longer than you, so you have to take my
shit/kicks in the head till we decide not to do it anymore."


Guess what??

I gave back what they dished out, and they *really* didn't like it.


The ng was ozdebate, it was approx 10-12(??) years ago.

And I still have ******s from that ng stalking me to this day.





> One doesn't have to put a link
> into their blog as blatantly as the pseudo newbies do.



If I ever decide to have a website, I'm sure as hell going to plug it every
chance I get!@!!


> A lot of folks
> just put a link to their blogs in their sig line, or post links to them
> on request.


OK, so next time I have a series of cooking pics, I should put the link in
my .sig??


Or just ask everyone to email me for the link if they want to see them???

Pffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!


I post the link.

If you want to look at the pics, you click the link. If you don't, you
ignore it.

Quite simple, really.



>>
>> Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they
>> have to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??
>>
>
> Not that I am aware of. I don't recall kissing any arses,


My motto is in my .sig.



> and a few of
> the 'regulars' (including Bob P. made me feel very welcome)...


There's about 3-4 'regs' that have made me feel "welcome". (You included)

The rest have this stand-offish, snobby, 'I've been here longer than you'
attitude.


It's a ****ing *cooking* ng, FFS, get over yourselves!!



And if someone comes along with a website that (GOD FORBID!!!!!) actually
has recipes on it........ either look at it, or leave it. *You* have that
power!!

To sit there and hypothesise on whether the OP is a "spammer" or not based
on 3 posts to a cooking group, promoting their website that has food
recipes on it......... is complete stupidity.



>>
>> If you're this critical of every newbie that comes along and wants to
>> join the rfc 'family'........ *no-one* will join and sooner or later,
>> like the old Diggers from past wars, you'll all die out and rfc will
>> just wither and die with you.
>>
>> As it is, if the OP is a genuine poster, the 'stick in the muds' of
>> this group have probably scared them off.
>
> If that was a 'genuine poster' then my cod's a kipper.



Over here, they use cod for Kippers.



Anyways, hopefully the Op (Amy) will come back........ if all those people
with carrots stuck up their arses haven't scared her off.



> (That's the
> OBFood part)...
>
> More OBFood: Chicken livers on the menu tonight.


Mmmmmmmmmm, someones liver, with Chianti, and some Fava beans.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Mi b'aill docha basaich air m' ris, sin mair air m'glun.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in news2ZRk.45442$yK5.8804
@newsfe24.ams2:

> PeterLucas wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
>>> can I join your group??
>
>> And how else are you to start??
>
> Is that how you started? Not likely.


No, because I'm not 'scared' of you people. A *lot* of first-timers on
any ng's are shit scared when they first go on to post. And a lot of
times they're met by the same shitty attitude that has been displayed
here by you and others.


I'm of the "you either like/tolerate me and we can have decent
conversations and swap ideas and recipes"..... or, you can GFY.

Either way, I'm not ever going to lose any sleep over it.


>
>> Should newbies pay a tithe to all the oldies of the group?? Do they
>> have to kiss your arse before being allowed to post??
>
> Feel free to believe that the person posted directions to
> their blog twice in a matter of minutes and disappeared
> actually wants to talk food or anything else with you.
>


Did you ever stop to consider that you, and others *bullied* her into
not posting back here??

All because of some half arsed suggestion that some people took up and
ran with.

I call that sort of thing, the 'Dingo pack' mentality.




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Mi b'aill docha basaich air m' ris, sin mair air m'glun.

(I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)

"Nancy Young"
> Giusi wrote:
>
>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you>> will
>> only listen to the radio where you get all your news and>> entertainment.
>
> Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
> can I join your group?? and it's just them pushing their blog
> so we all click on it. > nancy

I agree that is silly and off putting, but it doesn't explain the almost
universal horror when someone you know links to a blog vis a vis the
Pioneer Woman recipe for smashed potatoes the other day. And it is not the
first time I have seen it. The cries of SPAM! A personal food blog does
not make spam. A blogger who comes here and throws it at the group is truly
naive, but even that doesn't warrant the panicky fury that ensues with some
here.
Today blogs are the new magazines. Sme are highest quality, some pulp.
Some will be around as long as the publisher cares to bother. Most
disappear quickly.

"blake murphy"
Giusi wrote:
>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you will
>> only
>> listen to the radio where you get all your news and entertainment.
>
> yes, but you're 'family' and so is koko. that's a little different from
> parachuting in and dropping your u.r.l. bomb.
>
> maybe you can tell me this, though: as i understand it, you're paid for
> the blog ads on the basis of page visits, right? does the system account
> for those who visit but have some kind of ad-blocker software on their
> browsers?
>
> your curious pal,
> blake

It counts pages viewed, for how long and clicks on the ads. My blog has
been on for years and just started paying the monthly bill a few months ago.
My subscribers are from Asia through Europe and Africa with most in the US.
Google doesn't know if you have an ad blocker.

"PeterLucas"
> ChattyCathy >>>
>>> I have ads on my blog so as to pay for the expenses of internet
>>> connection,>>> which it is finally doing. Is that a big deal? Not
>>> very.
>>
>> Look, a lot of bloggers do the same thing - but those that do
>> a 'drive-by' posting to r.f.c. are spammers. Period.

They are just naive. They think they are doing a good job at something fun
and interesting.
>
> CC, I'm going to have to disagree.
> "Definitions of spammers on the Web:
> * The perpetrators of email spam, who send nearly identical messages
> to thousands (or millions) of recipients. ..."

> A quick (Google) check of her ID reveals *2* posts into rfc.
> Hardly a "spammer".

And was treated without even a modicum of respect, let alone the tiniest
welcome with possible explanation that a blog addy in the sig would be the
best way to promote herself here.

>>> There is no underhanded attempt to wrestle you down and sell you a>>>
>>> subscription, fool you into buying inferior veg and meat nor junk>>>
>>> foods in ernd of aisle displays-- all of which you tolerate very >
>>> well,>>> but the second someone does>>> something on the internet you
>>> insult them by calling them spammers.
>>
>> <eye roll>

Well, that is always your response to me, is it not?
>>
>>> Nor are these sites that implant spyware on your computer.
>>
>> Can you guarantee that for every blog out there? I sincerely doubt it.

I don't need to. To do such a thing would require technical knowledge
almost no food blogger has and once people saw their firewall flicker onto
the spyware, they'd lose their reader.

> Do you look at Koko's blog?? I do.
> What about all the blogs attached to hers? I do.
>
> Did you look at the OP's site and get spyware planted on your computer??
> I looked, and nothing happened to my computer.

>>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and you
>>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news and
>>> entertainment.
>>
>> Speak for yourself. Please.

I did, I think much of this group often sounds paranoid and naive about what
there is besides usenet.

> Grasshopper (yes, you've been demoted!!)........ you need to be as the >
> bamboo, and bow with the wind.

How about live in the 21st century.

> If a newbie comes in here with a website/blog..... and it's *got*
> recipes on the site, you've gotta cut them some slack.
> If they screw up....... *then* you kill them.
> But at least give them a fighting chance.

> Peter Lucas

Giusi wrote:
> "Nancy Young"
>> Giusi wrote:
>>
>>> As a group you sound sometimes like you are living in 1940 and
>>> you>> will only listen to the radio where you get all your news
>>> and>> entertainment.
>>
>> Actually, I think people find it very off-putting, Hi Everyone!,
>> can I join your group?? and it's just them pushing their blog
>> so we all click on it. > nancy
>
> I agree that is silly and off putting, but it doesn't explain the
> almost universal horror when someone you know links to a blog vis a
> vis the Pioneer Woman recipe for smashed potatoes the other day. And
> it is not the first time I have seen it. The cries of SPAM!

I don't know about that, I didn't look at it, guess I should. Well,
I can't find it. Stupid google.

Still, I operate on the idea that if someone I'm familiar with posts
a link, it's not going to be one that's got crap popping up, etc, and
that there is some content that would interest the people in rfc.
I have no idea why people didn't like that pioneerwoman site.

When someone comes around that I never saw, they have only
one intent and it's for me to click on their site, that faky friendliness
is annoying. Doesn't panic me, I just don't look at it, but still I can
see why people don't like it. Not as bad, but the way they go
about it reminds me of those Come to my house for dinner, and
turns out it's an Amway shill.

I have checked out your website, I enjoyed it very much. I don't
remember any ads, especially not annoying ads.

nancy

PeterLucas wrote:

I am going to agree to disagree.

>
> Do you look at Koko's blog?? I do.

Yep.
>
> What about all the blogs attached to hers? I do.

Not yet - didn't interest me.
>
> Did you look at the OP's site and get spyware planted on your
> computer??

No. But I have plenty of 'security' in place.
>
>
> I looked, and nothing happened to my computer.

That you know of.

>
> Grasshopper (yes, you've been demoted!!)

Awww, shucks!

> ........ you need to be as the
> bamboo, and bow with the wind.
>

No I don't.
>
>
>
> If a newbie comes in here with a website/blog..... and it's *got*
> recipes on the site, you've gotta cut them some slack.

No I don't, when they are obvious spammers.

> If they screw up....... *then* you kill them.
>

But they've already screwed up...
>
> But at least give them a fighting chance.

Hey, I'm here... they wanna reply, they're welcome. But I am not holding
my breath.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 2008-11-10, cybercat > wrote:

> and have the pages work. It's a tool.

One needs to be smarter than the tool.

nb

PeterLucas wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote in
> news:tzYRk.4340$2l5.3223 @newsfe01.iad:
>
>
>>
>> However, no matter what you think about Guisi's post, I won't hold it
>> against you (for more than five minutes). <grin>
>>
>
>
>
> Well....... if you hold it against me...... you'd only come up to my
> belly button anyway, short-stuff :-)

Heh. There were rumors that Lucrezia Borgia was short. No worries mate.
Here, have a glass of wine... ;-)
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Nancy Young"
> Giusi wrote:
> When someone comes around that I never saw, they have only
> one intent and it's for me to click on their site, that faky friendliness
> is annoying. Doesn't panic me, I just don't look at it, but still I can
> see why people don't like it. Not as bad, but the way they go about it
> reminds me of those Come to my house for dinner, and
> turns out it's an Amway shill.
> I have checked out your website, I enjoyed it very much. I don't
> remember any ads, especially not annoying ads.
>
> nancy

I am not allowed to click on the ads, so I don't know anything about what
they are inside, but I am fascinated by the little movie one of an electric
broom.

Thanks for the compliment. I really do try to make the food part accurate
and cogent. The other stuff I make no guarantees at all.

Giusi wrote:

<Cathy gives up trying to make sense of Guisi humping Peter's post and
snips the lot>

If you like these 'pseudo newbies' as much as you say you do, feel free
to trade 'great cooking advice' with them... no skin of my nose, but
please don't expect me to do the same.

Now you have a nice day...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 2008-11-10, Giusi > wrote:

> Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.

You are starting to sound like a rank newb and shit stirrer!

You been around here for how long? ...a few months? What do you know about
the longstanding traditions, mores, etc, of rfc? I could tell the poster
was a spammer ....rfc def of spam: anyone who posts here for strictly
commercial reasons.... in a heartbeat. If you payed attention to MY post, I
agree there is nothing wrong with a food blog or making rfc aware of it.
BUUUTTTT!! have you seen the OP post to rfc again as an interested party?
No, you have not. Have you seen her post again as a blatant spammer? Yes,
you have. I've been seeing these twits post their spam here for almost 10
yrs. I know it when I see it.

If someone wants to become a part of the rfc culture and post their blog, no
one will say boo. The "newbee" that originated this thread is not an rfc
person and most of the rfc regulars see her for what she is. The only one
clueless around here is you.

nb

PeterLucas wrote:

<snipped for space - you want context - go one post up>

You're damn right r.f.c could be considered a 'hostile environment' in
fact, is *is* a hostile environment to any newbie - as are many other
ng's - ozdebate was sure hostile to you, wasn't it? (still is judging
by some of the crossposted crap I've had to filter out lately).

Therefore, lurking in a group (any group) for a while is the thing to
do. You're a soldier, aren't you? Didn't they teach you to 'know your
enemy' before going on a 'raid'? How do you think I realized that
commercial advertising/spamming was about as popular as a pork chop in
a synagogue here; that Barb hates 'dirt-chunks' and Nancy used to have
(maybe still has? <g>) a 'thing' about the Mounties, or that you're a
crazy person that likes to jump out of planes? Not to mention how Greg
hated somebody called Martha Hughes and our ex-friend Dr Chump (sic)
used to stalk Bob P. here until we all kf'd him/her/it... Need I go on?

Wanna plug your website, by all means put the link in your sig, but
don't make it too obvious that that is all you're really here for...

As for posting links to food pics - I really don't remember too many
people objecting to that...

Let me reiterate: I have nothing against 'genuine newbies' in fact,
compared to you and many others here, I am still one myself. It's just
the obvious spammers trying to pass themselves off as 'genuine newbies'
that get on my last nerve (and on quite few other rfc-er's last nerve's
too, judging by some of the other responses in this thread). There have
been plenty of newbies lately that have had many "Welcome to the group"
responses from lots of folks here, but they just disappear anyway (or
use another sock, who knows?)

IOW, you wanna subscribe and post here you need the hide of a rhino.
People with thin skins don't last more than one or two posts. Their
loss.

>
> Mmmmmmmmmm, someones liver, with Chianti, and some Fava beans.

OK, Mr. Lecter - lock-down time ;-)

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

PeterLucas Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:21:42 +0000 (UTC)
5>
>
> " > wrote in news:449d292e-053d-4225-
> :
>
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > My real name is Amy and I am a wonderful cook.
>
>
> Dinner at your place then.
>
>
> BTW, it's *newbie*, newbie ;-P
>
>
> Unless of course, you *are* the new-bee and are going to get in everyones
> bonnet.

I could use honey recipes. I mostly drink coffee and my girlfriend likes
sugar in her tea, and yet we have lots of the stuff. I'll probably make
a sports drink with it when I get back to fencing.

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"notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio > On 2008-11-10, Giusi wrote:
>
>> Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of paranoid schizzos.
>
> You are starting to sound like a rank newb and shit stirrer!
>
> You been around here for how long? ...a few months?

No, I was on here as wvriter for years and years before I moved here 8 years
ago, so I know as much of what is important as you do.

What do you know about
> the longstanding traditions, mores, etc, of rfc? I could tell the poster
> was a spammer ....rfc def of spam: anyone who posts here for strictly>
> commercial reasons.... in a heartbeat. If you payed attention to MY post,
> I> agree there is nothing wrong with a food blog or making rfc aware of
> it.> BUUUTTTT!! have you seen the OP post to rfc again as an interested
> party?

It's only been one day, for crying out loud.

> No, you have not. Have you seen her post again as a blatant spammer?
> Yes,

I refer more to Dan Abel saying 'go look, but warning, spam ahead.' That
after he'd said it wasn't spam. A blog CANNOT be spam.

When did rfc get to invent a new meaning for spam? She was naive. If she
does come back look at what faces her!