Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about spices:

http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/spiceref.html

elaich > wrote:

> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about spices:

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

I fixed your URL for you.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> elaich > wrote:
>
> > Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about spices:
>
> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
>
> I fixed your URL for you.
>
> -sw

Good job. It is a better and more informative site.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> elaich > wrote:
>
>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>> spices:
>
> ...
> I fixed your URL for you.
>
> -sw

Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
different site. As one who wants to learn more about cooking with different
spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I was happy to see
*both* sites.

So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view them
both):

Provided by elaich: http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/spiceref.html
Provided by Sqwertz: http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

MaryL

On Nov 9, 1:04�pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > elaich > wrote:
>
> >> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
> >> spices:
>
> > ...
> > I fixed your URL for you.
>
> > -sw
>
> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. �Yours takes us to an entirely
> different site. �As one who wants to learn more about cooking with different
> spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I was happy to see
> *both* sites.
>
> So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view them
> both):

The Katzer site is the most comprehensive anywhere, and is selling
nothing... the spicecentre is a weak redundancy, and is a commercial
site.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Nov 9, 1:04�pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
> wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > elaich > wrote:
>>
>> >> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>> >> spices:
>>
>> > ...
>> > I fixed your URL for you.
>>
>> > -sw
>>
>> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. �Yours takes us to an entirely
>> different site. �As one who wants to learn more about cooking with
>> different spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I
>> was happy to see *both* sites.
>>
>> So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view
>> them both):
>
> The Katzer site is the most comprehensive anywhere, and is selling
> nothing... the spicecentre is a weak redundancy, and is a commercial
> site.

I am in agreement with both Steve and Sheldon... is that another r.f.c.
first? Just curious.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> elaich > wrote:
>>
>>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>>> spices:
>>
>> ...
>> I fixed your URL for you.
>
> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
> different site.

Can't food you, eh?

ObFood: Vietnamese grilled tri-tip for lunch today. Awesome stuff.

-sw

ChattyCathy > wrote:

> I am in agreement with both Steve and Sheldon...

No - you're WRONG!

-sw

Sqwertz > wrote:

> MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> elaich > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>>>> spices:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> I fixed your URL for you.
>>
>> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
>> different site.
>
> Can't food you, eh?

OOps. That's supposed to be "fool". I have a one-track mind.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> I am in agreement with both Steve and Sheldon...
>
> No - you're WRONG!
>
> -sw

<snork>

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
On Nov 9, 1:04�pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > elaich > wrote:
>
> >> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
> >> spices:
>
> > ...
> > I fixed your URL for you.
>
> > -sw
>
> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. �Yours takes us to an entirely
> different site. �As one who wants to learn more about cooking with
> different
> spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I was happy to
> see
> *both* sites.
>
> So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view them
> both):

The Katzer site is the most comprehensive anywhere, and is selling
nothing... the spicecentre is a weak redundancy, and is a commercial
site.

Thanks. The comment about selling is a good one (but I think "fixed" was
the wrong term -- I think of that as someone who corrects a URL that has an
incorrect letter in it or a missing letter). Nevertheless, I have
bookmarked both sites because I immediately found something (bay leaf) that
was listed in the "commercial" site but not in Katzer. If I found that so
quickly, I assume there may be others -- and undoubtedly others in reverse
(that is, in Katzer only).

MaryL

On Nov 9, 1:43�pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Nov 9, 1:04 pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > elaich > wrote:
>
> > >> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
> > >> spices:
>
> > > ...
> > > I fixed your URL for you.
>
> > > -sw
>
> > Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
> > different site. As one who wants to learn more about cooking with
> > different
> > spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I was happy to
> > see
> > *both* sites.
>
> > So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view them
> > both):
>
> The Katzer site is the most comprehensive anywhere, and is selling
> nothing... the spicecentre is a weak redundancy, and is a commercial
> site.
>
> Thanks. �The comment about selling is a good one (but I think "fixed" was
> the wrong term -- I think of that as someone who corrects a URL that has an
> incorrect letter in it or a missing letter). �Nevertheless, I have
> bookmarked both sites because I immediately found something (bay leaf) that
> was listed in the "commercial" site but not in Katzer. �If I found that so
> quickly, I assume there may be others -- and undoubtedly others in reverse
> (that is, in Katzer only).

You're obviously not an experienced foodie.

Look in the Ls, it's the first listing; "Laurel".

You're also not an experienced netizen or you'd know to look for a
search engine at most any reference site... had you used Katzer's
search engine for Bay you'd have found Laurel. So in all respects you
are indeed a Newbie.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> elaich > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>>>>> spices:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> I fixed your URL for you.
>>>
>>> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
>>> different site.
>>
>> Can't food you, eh?
>
> OOps. That's supposed to be "fool". I have a one-track mind.
>
> -sw

Actually, it made sense either way, considering the context of a "food"
newsgroup. My objection was to saying that you "fixed" the URL and then
also eliminating the original. Unless someone were reading the two messages
simultaneously, it would be easy to conclude that you had simply added or
removed some letters to "correct" the URL. As I said earlier, I'm actually
glad to have both. I'm not much of a cook, so I'm using this NG primarily
as a learning tool rather than as a place where I can be a contributor.

MaryL

MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> Nevertheless, I have
> bookmarked both sites because I immediately found something (bay leaf) that
> was listed in the "commercial" site but not in Katzer

There are three different kinds of Bay Leaves on the Katzer site.
http://search.freefind.com/find.html...ery=bay+le af

The Katzer site is *the* spice reference. No other site comes even
close.

-sw

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:29:41 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Nov 9, 1:04?pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER>
>> wrote:
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > elaich > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
>>> >> spices:
>>>
>>> > ...
>>> > I fixed your URL for you.
>>>
>>> > -sw
>>>
>>> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. ?Yours takes us to an entirely
>>> different site. ?As one who wants to learn more about cooking with
>>> different spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I
>>> was happy to see *both* sites.
>>>
>>> So, here are both of them (in case anyone else would like to view
>>> them both):
>>
>> The Katzer site is the most comprehensive anywhere, and is selling
>> nothing... the spicecentre is a weak redundancy, and is a commercial
>> site.
>
>I am in agreement with both Steve and Sheldon... is that another r.f.c.
>first? Just curious.

Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> Actually, it made sense either way, considering the context of a "food"
> newsgroup. My objection was to saying that you "fixed" the URL and then
> also eliminating the original.

It's a figure of speech when someone tries to point you people to an
inferior site. That same phrase has been used hundreds of times on
Usenet to do exactly what I did - redirect readers to a better site.
Call it poetic license.

-sw

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> > MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> >
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> elaich > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know about
> >>>> spices:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>> I fixed your URL for you.
> >>
> >> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
> >> different site.
> >
> > Can't food you, eh?
>
> OOps. That's supposed to be "fool". I have a one-track mind.
>
> -sw

But it was on topic.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

sf wrote:

>
> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>

Beg to differ. IMHO, Steve was right (as was Sheldon); the Katzer site
is considered the spice "Bible" to many, many foodies.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

sf > wrote:

> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.

Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
don't matter to anyone.

Why are you even here?

-sw

elaich wrote on 9 Nov 2008 09:19:13 GMT:

> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know
> about spices:

> http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/spiceref.html

In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in
:

> Actually, you did not "fix" the URL. Yours takes us to an entirely
> different site. As one who wants to learn more about cooking with
> different spices -- and yet I also want to know which are "hot" -- I
> was happy to see *both* sites.

Me too. Thanks. I just installed Stumble On, and that's how I found the
first site.

James Silverton wrote:

> elaich wrote on 9 Nov 2008 09:19:13 GMT:
>
>> Here's everything you always wanted (or didn't want) to know
>> about spices:
>
>> http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/spiceref.html
>
> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
> information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

LOL! Read a few more posts in this thread...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:20:29 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>>
>
>Beg to differ. IMHO, Steve was right (as was Sheldon); the Katzer site
>is considered the spice "Bible" to many, many foodies.

No negative comment about the site he redirected people to. I meant
the *way* he did it. He's an arrogant jerk and AFAIC he more than
proved it.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:33:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>sf > wrote:
>
>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>
>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
>don't matter to anyone.

They obviously do to you!
>
>Why are you even here?
>
I'm here to give your pathetic little life some meaning.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf > wrote in :

>>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
>>don't matter to anyone.

And Squidgy says that *I*'m argumentative?

>>Why are you even here?
>>
> I'm here to give your pathetic little life some meaning.

The question is why is Squidgy here seeing as all he likes doing is
starting fights, and then accusing others of doing that. But this is an
unmoderated newsgroup and bottom-feeders have as much right to post here as
the rest of us.

--

ObFood: “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:33:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>>
>>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
>>don't matter to anyone.
>
> They obviously do to you!

<laugh> Uh, hardly. I laugh at each and every one of your responses
to me. They're just so cute, in a 5-year old kinda way.

-sw

Michel Boucher > wrote:

> The question is why is Squidgy here seeing as all he likes doing is
> starting fights,

<snicker> Yeah - That's why I was the one here making a
food-related contribution until you two came along.

Don't let the irony smack you upside the face, shitferbrains.

-sw

James Silverton > wrote:

> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
> information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

Dude - that site sucks!

-sw

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 16:26:45 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:33:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>>>
>>>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
>>>don't matter to anyone.
>>
>> They obviously do to you!
>
><laugh> Uh, hardly. I laugh at each and every one of your responses
>to me. They're just so cute, in a 5-year old kinda way.
>
See what fun you're having? Without me, you'd have nothing to do
except annoy other posters.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 16:26:45 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >sf > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:33:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>sf > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
> >>>
> >>>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
> >>>don't matter to anyone.
> >>
> >> They obviously do to you!
> >
> ><laugh> Uh, hardly. I laugh at each and every one of your responses
> >to me. They're just so cute, in a 5-year old kinda way.
> >
> See what fun you're having? Without me, you'd have nothing to do
> except annoy other posters.

Nice riposte. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
"James Silverton" > wrote:

> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
> information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

It would be nice if the links were functional. All but one of those I
tried (maybe 10) were broken. :-(
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
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Melba's wrote on Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:13:20 -0600:

>> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for
>> authoritative information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
>> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/

> It would be nice if the links were functional. All but one of
> those I tried (maybe 10) were broken. :-(

I just tried three subjects randomly: cicely, orange and sizchuan
pepper, all worked. Which three failed for you?
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
Michel Boucher > wrote:

> sf > wrote in :
>
> >>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
> >>don't matter to anyone.
>
> And Squidgy says that *I*'m argumentative?

Yeah, you are, and Steve loves every word of it. When my oldest son was
younger, I saw a lot of myself in him. Argue, argue, argue. My mother
especially would complain about me arguing with my brother. At our
ages, we're pretty much over it. My oldest son will be 30 in a few
weeks, and he is finally growing up.

> >>Why are you even here?
> >>
> > I'm here to give your pathetic little life some meaning.
>
> The question is why is Squidgy here seeing as all he likes doing is
> starting fights, and then accusing others of doing that. But this is an
> unmoderated newsgroup and bottom-feeders have as much right to post here as
> the rest of us.

Except that if Steve is xxx, well, then the other three of us are also.
We *all* like to argue.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> In article >,
> "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
> > In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
> > information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
> > http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
>
> It would be nice if the links were functional. All but one of those I
> tried (maybe 10) were broken. :-(

Seems to be a browser problem. If you have a different browser, give it
a try. There's a note on the page that Gernot is out of the country, so
it may not get fixed very quickly.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> In article >,
> "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
>> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
>> information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
>> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
>
> It would be nice if the links were functional. All but one of those I
> tried (maybe 10) were broken. :-(

They all work for me.

-sw

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "James Silverton" > wrote:
> >
> >> In my not too humble opinion, still the best place for authoritative
> >> information on spices is Gernot Katzer's web page:
> >> http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
> >
> > It would be nice if the links were functional. All but one of those I
> > tried (maybe 10) were broken. :-(
>
> They all work for me.
>
> -sw

Interesting. AFAIC tell, only those in the first column, Ajwain to
Chile, are functional. Others are broken.
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http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
(Send her a note!)

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,

> Seems to be a browser problem. If you have a different browser, give it
> a try. There's a note on the page that Gernot is out of the country, so
> it may not get fixed very quickly.


Hah! So it is. Safari opens the first column; Firefox seems to open
all (at least those in the other columns that I checked). Thanks, Dan.
--
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http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
(Send her a note!)

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
> (Send her a note!)

They need to update that journal when she is feeling up to it. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:20:29 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally, I thought -sw was being a complete jackass yet again.
>>
>
> Beg to differ. IMHO, Steve was right (as was Sheldon); the Katzer site
> is considered the spice "Bible" to many, many foodies.

i'm another who has it bookmarked.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:51:29 -0600, Michel Boucher wrote:

> sf > wrote in :
>
>>>Well, you're just a whiney bitch, so your petty thoughts really
>>>don't matter to anyone.
>
> And Squidgy says that *I*'m argumentative?
>
>>>Why are you even here?
>>>
>> I'm here to give your pathetic little life some meaning.
>
> The question is why is Squidgy here seeing as all he likes doing is
> starting fights, and then accusing others of doing that. But this is an
> unmoderated newsgroup and bottom-feeders have as much right to post here as
> the rest of us.

let's not forget that many bottom-feeders are tasty animals, trayfe though
they may be.

your pal,
blake