Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these today
and have then for afternoon tea.

http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones


First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some friends
who've just had one of their older friends die on them. They're helping the
family (son) get his personal effects in order, so some fresh baked scones
and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help them.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke.

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these today
> and have then for afternoon tea.
>
> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>
>
> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some friends
> who've just had one of their older friends die on them. They're helping the
> family (son) get his personal effects in order, so some fresh baked scones
> and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help them.

Family deaths always suck. Good on you for helping them out.

We call those biscuits here. :-)
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Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
>> today and have then for afternoon tea.
>>
>> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>>
>>
>> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
>> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
>> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order,
>> so some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help
>> them.
>
> Family deaths always suck. Good on you for helping them out.
>
> We call those biscuits here. :-)



Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.

We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

PeterLucas > wrote in
.25:

> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
> today and have then for afternoon tea.
>
> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>
>
> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order, so
> some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help them.
>


Also doing some puff pastry cheese sticks.

Kinda sorta like this......

http://www.puffpastry.com/recipedeta...recipeID=24023

but I use two sheets of pastry, with parmesan in the middle, put the
other sheet on top, press, then top that with tasty cheddar, press
again, and cut into strips.

Made some for the b'day party last week, and they disappeared, *quick*!!
I didn't even get to have a taste!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

On Sun 09 Nov 2008 06:50:25p, PeterLucas told us...

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>> In article > ,
>> PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>>> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
>>> today and have then for afternoon tea.
>>>
>>> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>>>
>>>
>>> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
>>> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
>>> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order,
>>> so some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help
>>> them.
>>
>> Family deaths always suck. Good on you for helping them out.
>>
>> We call those biscuits here. :-)
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>
> We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)
>
>
>

Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
5.247:


>
> Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
> itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.
>


We've had some with some Cherry jam....... and whipped cream :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Also doing some puff pastry cheese sticks.
>
> Kinda sorta like this......
>
> http://www.puffpastry.com/recipedeta...recipeID=24023
>
> but I use two sheets of pastry, with parmesan in the middle, put the
> other sheet on top, press, then top that with tasty cheddar, press
> again, and cut into strips.
>
> Made some for the b'day party last week, and they disappeared, *quick*!!
> I didn't even get to have a taste!!

Good cheese pastries will always be eternally popular. ;-d
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"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article > ,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article > ,
> > PeterLucas > wrote:
> >
> >> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
> >> today and have then for afternoon tea.
> >>
> >> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
> >>
> >>
> >> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
> >> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
> >> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order,
> >> so some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help
> >> them.
> >
> > Family deaths always suck. Good on you for helping them out.
> >
> > We call those biscuits here. :-)
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>
> We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)

They are served any number of ways. They are good with a good red eye
gravy, with butter and jam, or my personal favorite is with butter and
honey.

They also make a handy dandy sausage sandwich!
--
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"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

PeterLucas wrote:
> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>> In article > ,
>> PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>>> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
>>> today and have then for afternoon tea.
>>>
>>> http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>>>
>>>
>>> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
>>> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
>>> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order,
>>> so some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help
>>> them.
>>
>> Family deaths always suck. Good on you for helping them out.
>>
>> We call those biscuits here. :-)
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>
Not always. Jam or butter is more the usual thing. Clotted cream is
reserved for Scottish scones

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in news:6nqcnfF7ogmU1
@mid.individual.net:


>>>
>>> We call those biscuits here. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>>
> Not always. Jam or butter is more the usual thing. Clotted cream is
> reserved for Scottish scones
>


I've never really been able to get my head, or mouth, around something with
a name that's got 'clotted' in it.


I hear 'clotted', all I hear/see/smell is congealed blood.



Whipped cream is an *entirely* different kettle of fish :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

On Nov 9, 8:32*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
> On Sun 09 Nov 2008 06:50:25p, PeterLucas told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Omelet > wrote in
> >news
>
> >> In article > ,
> >> *PeterLucas > wrote:
>
> >>> Got leftover b'milk from the birthday cake, so decided to make these
> >>> today and have then for afternoon tea.
>
> >>>http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1458...termilk+scones
>
> >>> First batch is in the oven. Going to do a second batch for some
> >>> friends who've just had one of their older friends die on them.
> >>> They're helping the family (son) get his personal effects in order,
> >>> so some fresh baked scones and maybe a Gin and Tonic or 3 will help
> >>> them.
>
> >> Family deaths always suck. *Good on you for helping them out.
>
> >> We call those biscuits here. :-)
>
> > Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>
> > We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)
>
> Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
> itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.
>
> --
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Or honey - the only good use for honey, IMO.

N.

In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> > Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
> > itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.
> >
> > --
> > * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
>
> Or honey - the only good use for honey, IMO.
>
> N.

I agree for the most part about the honey as I'm not a big honey fan,
(it's really good on biscuits) but the other main use for it is to
drizzle some on a prepared grapefruit half and let it soak in before
scooping the sections out. I learned to eat it that way as a kid at
gramma's house, and still love it that way.

Other uses for honey is in baking or dipping sauces.

I'm not a huge fan of it as a sweetener in drinks like dad is.
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:50:25 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> wrote:

>Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>
Biscuits and gravy is another "animal" and if you make it at home, the
gravy is anything but insipid.

>We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)

We eat our biscuits with butter and honey (comb honey is out of this
world), butter and jam... can't say we put cream - not even the
clotted type - on them though.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:32:17 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
>itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.

I'd say you were entirely correct. I was an adult with children
before I'd even heard of biscuits and gravy.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:36:44 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Or honey - the only good use for honey, IMO.

Honey has many good uses for me, but on a biscuit is right up at the
top of the list.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in news:6nqcnfF7ogmU1
:
>
>
>>>>
>>>> We call those biscuits here. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>>>
>> Not always. Jam or butter is more the usual thing. Clotted cream is
>> reserved for Scottish scones
>>
>
>
>I've never really been able to get my head, or mouth, around something with
>a name that's got 'clotted' in it.
>
>
>I hear 'clotted', all I hear/see/smell is congealed blood.
>
>
>
>Whipped cream is an *entirely* different kettle of fish :-)

whipped cream on a biscuit is just plain wrong.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon 10 Nov 2008 10:36:05p, sf told us...

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:50:25 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > wrote:
>
>>Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
>>
> Biscuits and gravy is another "animal" and if you make it at home, the
> gravy is anything but insipid.
>
>>We have them with a lovely jam and some fresh whipped cream :-)
>
> We eat our biscuits with butter and honey (comb honey is out of this
> world), butter and jam... can't say we put cream - not even the
> clotted type - on them though.

I’ve always loved comb honey, used to have it at home all the time when I
was growing up. Haven’t seen it in years.


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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:56:41 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> wrote:

>Also doing some puff pastry cheese sticks.
>
>Kinda sorta like this......
>
>http://www.puffpastry.com/recipedeta...recipeID=24023


Those look fabulous as is! I think I'll make them for Thanksgiving.
Thanks for the pointer.


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interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:41:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:


>I’ve always loved comb honey, used to have it at home all the time when I
>was growing up. Haven’t seen it in years.

Trader Joes has some.

Christine

On Mon 10 Nov 2008 10:38:31p, sf told us...

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:36:44 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>>Or honey - the only good use for honey, IMO.
>
> Honey has many good uses for me, but on a biscuit is right up at the
> top of the list.

My mother would occasionally bake buttermilk biscuits for company dinners.
When she did, she invariably would also make whipped honey butter to serve
with them.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
>sf wrote:

>> whipped cream on a biscuit is just plain wrong.
>
>
>Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>whipped cream...

You got it, Greg. And a biscuit is the ONLY shortcake for this GRITS
girl.

Christine

On Mon 10 Nov 2008 10:50:28p, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:41:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I’ve always loved comb honey, used to have it at home all the time when I
>>was growing up. Haven’t seen it in years.
>
> Trader Joes has some.
>
> Christine

I guess I know what my next purchase at TJ’s will be.


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sf wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > wrote:
>
> >"jmcquown" > wrote in news:6nqcnfF7ogmU1
> :
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> We call those biscuits here. :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, I know. And you have them with some insipid 'gravy'.
> >>>
> >> Not always. Jam or butter is more the usual thing. Clotted cream is
> >> reserved for Scottish scones
> >>
> >
> >
> >I've never really been able to get my head, or mouth, around something
with
> >a name that's got 'clotted' in it.
> >
> >
> >I hear 'clotted', all I hear/see/smell is congealed blood.
> >
> >
> >
> >Whipped cream is an *entirely* different kettle of fish :-)
>
> whipped cream on a biscuit is just plain wrong.


Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
whipped cream...


--
Best
Greg

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:54:47 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I guess I know what my next purchase at TJ’s will be.

Well..put it this way. MY Trader Joes here in town (ABQ only has one
store so far) has it. Or did have it. I didn't check tonight, when I
was there.

Christine

On Mon 10 Nov 2008 10:56:24p, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:54:47 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>I guess I know what my next purchase at TJ’s will be.
>
> Well..put it this way. MY Trader Joes here in town (ABQ only has one
> store so far) has it. Or did have it. I didn't check tonight, when I
> was there.
>
> Christine
>

It’s still worth checking.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>whipped cream...

<snork> OK, you got me. I don't call that a biscuit!


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:41:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I’ve always loved comb honey, used to have it at home all the time when I
>was growing up. Haven’t seen it in years.

I've seen it, but I'd have to give my first born just to buy it.


--
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On Tue 11 Nov 2008 01:39:02a, sf told us...

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:41:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>I’ve always loved comb honey, used to have it at home all the time when I
>>was growing up. Haven’t seen it in years.
>
> I've seen it, but I'd have to give my first born just to buy it.

I’m going to check TJ’s and a couple of specialty stores around here. There
is a lot of local AZ honey. Perhaps some will be comb honey.


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:37:53 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
>
>>Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>>whipped cream...
>
><snork> OK, you got me. I don't call that a biscuit!

It is, if you are from the South. No spongecake or other such
nonsense... Biscuits...but a rich biscuit. I think my mother made
biscuits for shortcake a bit richer with more butter and cream. But,
still a biscuit...

Christine

"Christine Dabney" ha scritto nel messaggio
sf > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
>>>Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>>>whipped cream...
>>
>><snork> OK, you got me. I don't call that a biscuit!
>
> It is, if you are from the South. No spongecake or other such
> nonsense... Biscuits...but a rich biscuit. I think my mother made
> biscuits for shortcake a bit richer with more butter and cream. But,
> still a biscuit...
>
> Christine

New Rngland also doesn't accept those other false things in shortcake.

Christine Dabney wrote:

> It is, if you are from the South. No spongecake or other such
> nonsense... Biscuits...but a rich biscuit. I think my mother made
> biscuits for shortcake a bit richer with more butter and cream. But,
> still a biscuit...
>
> Christine

Yeah, I think the traditional strawberry shortcakes were made with
biscuits. I never read that anyone used anything else until Sara Lee
invented their poundcake and it became the Sandra Lee way....?

Nancy2 wrote:

> Or honey - the only good use for honey, IMO.


I don't know about fancy tricks like replacing sugar with honey in
recipes or anything, but I make my oatmeal with milk and then sweeten it
with a couple of tablespoons of honey which turns out really good.

Best regards . . .

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:32:17 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> Actually, while many people eat "biscuits and sausage gravy", a meal in
>> itself, probably even more people eat biscuits with butter and jam.
>
> I'd say you were entirely correct. I was an adult with children
> before I'd even heard of biscuits and gravy.

Freshly baked biscuits are regular Sunday brunch fare in our house. We
have them with butter and an assortment of jams, honey and maple butter.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>> Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>> whipped cream...
>
> <snork> OK, you got me. I don't call that a biscuit!
>

During strawberry season my wife often makes biscuits to go with
strawberries and whipped cream. She uses a variation of our regular
biscuit recipe with a little sugar, and butter instead of vegetable
shortening. They are much better than the sponge type cakes often used
for shortcakes.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:22:45 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:37:53 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:56:13 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
>>
>>>Not when the biscuit is a base for a strawberry shortcake topped with
>>>whipped cream...
>>
>><snork> OK, you got me. I don't call that a biscuit!
>
>It is, if you are from the South.

I'm not from the South and most southern terminology (including what
they call BBQ) is pretty weird, AFAIC.

>No spongecake or other such
>nonsense... Biscuits...but a rich biscuit. I think my mother made
>biscuits for shortcake a bit richer with more butter and cream. But,
>still a biscuit...
>
Backing up even further, I don't make individual shortcakes (or
biscuits). I make one BIG shortcake (which is one helluva biscuit),
split it in half, fill and then cut it into wedges for serving. As an
adult, I prefer using a variation of cream biscuit for the dough
instead of lard, but I still don't *call* it a biscuit. It's
shortcake.


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interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:26:01 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> It is, if you are from the South. No spongecake or other such
>> nonsense... Biscuits...but a rich biscuit. I think my mother made
>> biscuits for shortcake a bit richer with more butter and cream. But,
>> still a biscuit...
>>
>> Christine
>
>Yeah, I think the traditional strawberry shortcakes were made with
>biscuits. I never read that anyone used anything else until Sara Lee
>invented their poundcake and it became the Sandra Lee way....?

Oh, no. I know exactly what Christine is talking about. My mom's mom
made traditional shortcake with lard. Mom went to the store and
bought those individual sponge cakes with a depression in the center
to hold the berries. I never did like those nasty things.

I do, however, like strawberries over pound cake and especially over
angel food cake - but you'll never catch me calling either one
"strawberry shortcake".


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:17:01 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>During strawberry season my wife often makes biscuits to go with
>strawberries and whipped cream. She uses a variation of our regular
>biscuit recipe with a little sugar, and butter instead of vegetable
>shortening.

Atta girl!

>They are much better than the sponge type cakes often used
>for shortcakes.

You're not just whistlin' Dixie there, big fellah.


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