"Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!
With Anna Burrell.

Pork loin and apples episode.

Between her "I'm a happy girl" and "ooh baby" chanting and baritone groans,
her "Earl: extra virgin of course" crossed the line into illiteracy.

She looked like she could be Guy Fieri's Mom with her short white hair and
she squawks as incessantly and even sounds like Rachael Ray.

Overall she came across as rather butch, imho.

Between all the apples and apple cider vinegar and salt she used in every
dish, it all must've tasted awful! Even she backed away from her cabbage
after getting a whif!!!

She got a half hour of my time and that's all.

Andy

Andy wrote:
> "Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!

> She got a half hour of my time and that's all.

If that's how it worked there would be no Iron Chef.

I like Secrets. She's okay in my book.

nancy

Nancy Young said...

> Andy wrote:
>> "Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!
>
>> She got a half hour of my time and that's all.
>
> If that's how it worked there would be no Iron Chef.
>
> I like Secrets. She's okay in my book.
>
> nancy


NOT directed at nancy:

I never enjoyed Iron Chef, either version. The PBS cooking shows while
fewer are much more "palatable." That and since I got digital cable, there
are a lot more interesting things to watch than FoodTV.

I like less and less FoodTV programs daily. Ellie being one I like. If only
she could pick another color blouse than powder blue once in awhile. I can
even enjoy Paula if it's a new show. I overdosed on foodTV for years and
everything is a repeat just about. I can't watch "The Neely's" new OR old
nor would I eat at their Memphis BBQ if I was in town. Bobby Flay is too
arrogant, Emeril, too shrill, Tyler good basics, Malto Mario, not so much.
Sandra Lee, too hard to take seriously, Ray, too smiley and spastic. Alton
needs more Good Eats/Less Repeats. In general, all the hosts that "road
trip" foods are dull and most of the programming is ancient. The Dean boys
are boring to look at and listen to. Guy was funny with his quick quips for
awhile. Sarah was fun but too hurried. The Challenges were always boring
(to move your work successfully as part of the judging?). Duff, while
making creative cakes, I'd rather drink the beer of the same than eat his
cakes. Nigella I liked for a season or two. Jamie also got boring pretty
quick. And the new round of TV cooks that foodTV execs seemingly pull out
of a hat and throw on a stage are about the worst I've witnessed in years.

Andy

Andy wrote:
> Nancy Young said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> "Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!
>>> She got a half hour of my time and that's all.
>> If that's how it worked there would be no Iron Chef.
>>
>> I like Secrets. She's okay in my book.
>>
>> nancy
>
>
> NOT directed at nancy:
>
> I never enjoyed Iron Chef, either version. The PBS cooking shows while
> fewer are much more "palatable." That and since I got digital cable, there
> are a lot more interesting things to watch than FoodTV.
>
> I like less and less FoodTV programs daily. Ellie being one I like. If only
> she could pick another color blouse than powder blue once in awhile. I can
> even enjoy Paula if it's a new show. I overdosed on foodTV for years and
> everything is a repeat just about. I can't watch "The Neely's" new OR old
> nor would I eat at their Memphis BBQ if I was in town. Bobby Flay is too
> arrogant, Emeril, too shrill, Tyler good basics, Malto Mario, not so much.
> Sandra Lee, too hard to take seriously, Ray, too smiley and spastic. Alton
> needs more Good Eats/Less Repeats. In general, all the hosts that "road
> trip" foods are dull and most of the programming is ancient. The Dean boys
> are boring to look at and listen to. Guy was funny with his quick quips for
> awhile. Sarah was fun but too hurried. The Challenges were always boring
> (to move your work successfully as part of the judging?). Duff, while
> making creative cakes, I'd rather drink the beer of the same than eat his
> cakes. Nigella I liked for a season or two. Jamie also got boring pretty
> quick. And the new round of TV cooks that foodTV execs seemingly pull out
> of a hat and throw on a stage are about the worst I've witnessed in years.
>
> Andy


What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
around? I like him. A lot!

Margaret Suran said...

> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
> around? I like him. A lot!


That's going back in time a ways. My ex mentioned his mother was famous in
the TV or film biz and got him to slip under the radar of public scrutiny. I
don't remember his shows. We never watched him. Like we never watched a
Pauley Shore movie.

Andy

"Andy" > wrote in message
>
> I like less and less FoodTV programs daily. Ellie being one I like. If
> only
> she could pick another color blouse than powder blue once in awhile. I can
> even enjoy Paula if it's a new show. I overdosed on foodTV for years and
> everything is a repeat just about. I can't watch "The Neely's" new OR old
> nor would I eat at their Memphis BBQ if I was in town. Bobby Flay is too
> arrogant, Emeril, too shrill, Tyler good basics, Malto Mario, not so much.
> Sandra Lee, too hard to take seriously, Ray, too smiley and spastic. Alton
> needs more Good Eats/Less Repeats. In general, all the hosts that "road
> trip" foods are dull and most of the programming is ancient. The Dean boys
> are boring to look at and listen to. Guy was funny with his quick quips
> for
> awhile. Sarah was fun but too hurried. The Challenges were always boring
> (to move your work successfully as part of the judging?). Duff, while
> making creative cakes, I'd rather drink the beer of the same than eat his
> cakes. Nigella I liked for a season or two. Jamie also got boring pretty
> quick. And the new round of TV cooks that foodTV execs seemingly pull out
> of a hat and throw on a stage are about the worst I've witnessed in years.
>
> Andy

I don't like Emeril so much on Food Network, but I do like his Emeril Green
on the Planet Green network.
I like Tyler, can take some Bobby Flay. Giada is easy on the eyes,
especially her rack. (I'm talking oven racks, of course)

I like Dinner Impossible, Chef Jeff Project, an occasional Iron Chef, How'd
that get on my Plate?, and Unwrapped. . I'd like to see more Good Eat too.

Can't stand Paula, RR and the Neely's are downright sickening. Even worse
than the Deen boys. Neither one of them got more that 15 minutes of my
time.

Margaret Suran wrote:

>
> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
> around? I like him. A lot!



I agree. I loved watching and listening to him.
Last I saw a few years ago he was on at 7AM.

gloria p

Ed Pawlowski said...

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message
>>
>> I like less and less FoodTV programs daily. Ellie being one I like. If
>> only
>> she could pick another color blouse than powder blue once in awhile. I
>> can even enjoy Paula if it's a new show. I overdosed on foodTV for
>> years and everything is a repeat just about. I can't watch "The
>> Neely's" new OR old nor would I eat at their Memphis BBQ if I was in
>> town. Bobby Flay is too arrogant, Emeril, too shrill, Tyler good
>> basics, Malto Mario, not so much. Sandra Lee, too hard to take
>> seriously, Ray, too smiley and spastic. Alton needs more Good Eats/Less
>> Repeats. In general, all the hosts that "road trip" foods are dull and
>> most of the programming is ancient. The Dean boys are boring to look at
>> and listen to. Guy was funny with his quick quips for
>> awhile. Sarah was fun but too hurried. The Challenges were always
>> boring (to move your work successfully as part of the judging?). Duff,
>> while making creative cakes, I'd rather drink the beer of the same than
>> eat his cakes. Nigella I liked for a season or two. Jamie also got
>> boring pretty quick. And the new round of TV cooks that foodTV execs
>> seemingly pull out of a hat and throw on a stage are about the worst
>> I've witnessed in years.
>>
>> Andy
>
> I don't like Emeril so much on Food Network, but I do like his Emeril
> Green on the Planet Green network.
> I like Tyler, can take some Bobby Flay. Giada is easy on the eyes,
> especially her rack. (I'm talking oven racks, of course)
>
> I like Dinner Impossible, Chef Jeff Project, an occasional Iron Chef,
> How'd that get on my Plate?, and Unwrapped. . I'd like to see more Good
> Eat too.
>
> Can't stand Paula, RR and the Neely's are downright sickening. Even
> worse than the Deen boys. Neither one of them got more that 15 minutes
> of my time.


Ed,

I saw a bit of Emeril Green. It's a clone of Tyler's 911 that's been tried
and overdone several times, except Emeril has them visit his studio? I'll
have another look. I always liked his Essence of Emeril, he seems much more
mellow in those surroundings.

Dinner Impossible is, to me, time under pressure and I don't enjoy the
anxiety of that.

"How'd I get that on my plate" I never gave much notice. She sounded like
most of the others at foodTV, over-processed.

I liked unwrapped but all I see are repeats. I wonder if it's still in
production.

Giada IS nice to watch! I think her Mom is hot too!

Barefoot Contessa, I liked for her interesting background and easy manner,
but I don't care for her sometimes forced chuckles with dinner company and
watch her sparingly. I wonder if it's still in production.

I'll give the Chef Jeff project an episode look-see.

There were many chefs that foodTV tried to mold this way or that way across
different TV shows and other chefs that they just pidgeon-holed into one
program or another. Or at least it seemed that way to me. The programming
seems amateurish at best, and that's coming from an amateur!

Imho.

Best,

Andy

Gloria P wrote:
> Margaret Suran wrote:
>
>>
>> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
>> around? I like him. A lot!
>
>
>
> I agree. I loved watching and listening to him.
> Last I saw a few years ago he was on at 7AM.
>
> gloria p


Thank you. He usually made a whole main course for himself on the show,
then ate it, after pouring some wine for himself and you could see how
much he enjoyed the food. If the food didn't call for wine, he would
open a bottle of beer at times and drink that.

He had two little daughters and he had them visit him on the set for
special effect, like the time he baked brownies and the older one was
there. It was a huge success and a few weeks later he had both girls
there, to help him make Madeleines and hoping the cookies would have the
same effect on the little girls as they had on Proust. They did not,
both girls had trouble swallowing even one little taste. David
Rosengarten (was that his name?) was sooo disappointed, but he was proud
of his daughters, who behaved like little ladies, even though they were
disappointed that the Madeleines were not what they had expected.

I wonder what happened to him.

Margaret Suran wrote:

> I wonder what happened to him.

He has a website:

http://www.davidrosengarten.com/

Margaret Suran > wrote in news:gfndpe$5bu$1
@news.motzarella.org:

> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
> around? I like him. A lot!
>

I liked him too...Alas he isn't a cook anymore...now he produces

--

The beet goes on -Alan

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:00:34 -0500, Margaret Suran
> wrote:

> a few weeks later he had both girls
>there, to help him make Madeleines and hoping the cookies would have the
>same effect on the little girls as they had on Proust. They did not,
>both girls had trouble swallowing even one little taste

I know how those girls felt. When I was newly married, I went out and
bought madeleine pans without ever having tasted a madeleine. They
stuck to the pan and to my mouth. I hated them so much I never tried
making or eating them again.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:10:37 +0000 (UTC), Andy > wrote:

>Dinner Impossible is, to me, time under pressure and I don't enjoy the
>anxiety of that.

Dinner impossible is more like "How did it take them to dream that one
up?"


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Margaret Suran wrote:

> He usually made a whole main course for himself on the show,
> then ate it, after pouring some wine for himself and you could see how
> much he enjoyed the food. If the food didn't call for wine, he would
> open a bottle of beer at times and drink that.
>
> He had two little daughters and he had them visit him on the set for
> special effect, like the time he baked brownies and the older one was
> there. It was a huge success and a few weeks later he had both girls
> there, to help him make Madeleines and hoping the cookies would have the
> same effect on the little girls as they had on Proust. They did not,
> both girls had trouble swallowing even one little taste. David
> Rosengarten (was that his name?) was sooo disappointed, but he was proud
> of his daughters, who behaved like little ladies, even though they were
> disappointed that the Madeleines were not what they had expected.
>
> I wonder what happened to him.

He always seemed like a nice man and a gentleman.

About the time he left the cooking channel I received quite a few
mailings advertising a "cooking newsletter" he was publishing. I didn't
subscribe because it was quite expensive. I haven't heard anything
about him since.

gloria p

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:15:11 -0800, sf > wrote:

>"How did it take them to dream that one up?"

Make that
How *long* did it take them to dream that one up?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Andy wrote:

> "Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!
> With Anna Burrell.
>
> Pork loin and apples episode.
>
> Between her "I'm a happy girl" and "ooh baby" chanting and baritone
> groans,
> her "Earl: extra virgin of course" crossed the line into illiteracy.
>
> She looked like she could be Guy Fieri's Mom with her short white hair and
> she squawks as incessantly and even sounds like Rachael Ray.
>
> Overall she came across as rather butch, imho.
>
> Between all the apples and apple cider vinegar and salt she used in every
> dish, it all must've tasted awful! Even she backed away from her cabbage
> after getting a whif!!!
>
> She got a half hour of my time and that's all.


I posted about the show three weeks ago:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...6f6e522f?hl=en

I like her. Lin noted that she and Guy Fieri might as well have been
separated at birth. I've tried some of her recipes and been happy, but I
don't agree with her vegetable-cooking techniques.

Bob

George wrote:
> Margaret Suran wrote:
>
>> I wonder what happened to him.
>
> He has a website:
>
> http://www.davidrosengarten.com/


Thank you!

-"Andy" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> I never enjoyed Iron Chef, either version. The PBS cooking shows while >
> fewer are much more "palatable." That and since I got digital cable, there
> > are a lot more interesting things to watch than FoodTV.
> Andy

Andy, I know next to nothing of the shows you mention other than what I read
here or occasionally on various food pages such as Serious Eats, which to my
mind is neither serious nor edible. But from what you post here it seems to
me that you are a looker rather than a doer and after years of watching
people cook if you were still fascinated with it I'd question your sanity.
I believe that if you were working at mastering a particular form of cookery
you'd watch proponents of it cook and be interested and sometimes learn.

"Margaret Suran"

and a few weeks later he had both girls
> there, to help him make Madeleines and hoping the cookies would have the
> same effect on the little girls as they had on Proust. They did not, both
> girls had trouble swallowing even one little taste. David Rosengarten
> (was that his name?) was sooo disappointed, but he was proud > of his
> daughters, who behaved like little ladies, even though they were >
> disappointed that the Madeleines were not what they had expected.

That's a story that resounds with any of us who taught our children to cook.
There are disappointments when even helping to make it doesn't convince the
child to like it, but also successes that stay with you. To this day my
daughter will tell the story of thirty-five years ago when we made ravioli
together. She remembers even what kind of filling, (chicken and spinach)
who ate with us and how much she loved them. She also tells about the time
we made 9 pumpkin pies for her birthday.
Lots of things were trouble and strife among us, but the kitchen was a no
war zone always.

Giusi said...

>
>
> -"Andy" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> I never enjoyed Iron Chef, either version. The PBS cooking shows while
>> > fewer are much more "palatable." That and since I got digital cable,
>> there
>> > are a lot more interesting things to watch than FoodTV.
>> Andy
>
> Andy, I know next to nothing of the shows you mention other than what I
> read here or occasionally on various food pages such as Serious Eats,
> which to my mind is neither serious nor edible. But from what you post
> here it seems to me that you are a looker rather than a doer and after
> years of watching people cook if you were still fascinated with it I'd
> question your sanity. I believe that if you were working at mastering a
> particular form of cookery you'd watch proponents of it cook and be
> interested and sometimes learn.


Giusi,

I certainly enjoyed and had my share of great food and I like participating
at r.f.c but after life changing diabetes and gout, which I brought on
myself and by heredity, I have limited my diet to the point of finickyness.

I'm NOT the cook OR eater I once was.

Forgive me.

Andy

I'm so sick of "EVOO and garlic in a frying pan"....
I'm tired of Italian cuisine.... tired of pasta.

Years ago, PBS ran a show called "The Urban Peasant"
Low key, nothing pretentious, no exotic ingredients.

He turned out straightforward, yet interesting meals
using ingredients the average person might find
in his local grocery store..... ( what more could we ask ? )

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:51:18 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote:

>
>I'm so sick of "EVOO and garlic in a frying pan"....
>I'm tired of Italian cuisine.... tired of pasta.
>
>Years ago, PBS ran a show called "The Urban Peasant"
>Low key, nothing pretentious, no exotic ingredients.
>
>He turned out straightforward, yet interesting meals
>using ingredients the average person might find
>in his local grocery store..... ( what more could we ask ? )
>
Hadn't heard of that show before.... http://www.james-barber.com He
has one of those recipe search engines where you can plug in key
ingredients to search - or you can just say "chicken".

JAMES BARBER'S RECIPES

Chicken Salad with Pears

* 1 skinless, boneless chicken breast, cooked & sliced
* 1 head romaine lettuce, chopped
* 1 small red onion, sliced thin
* 1 pear, cored and sliced
* 1 orange, peeled and chopped
* 1 red pepper, chopped
* 3 Tbsp mayonnaise
* a sprig of fresh tarragon, or 1/2 tsp dried
* 1 tsp dijon mustard

Toss all of the ingredients together and serve.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
Margaret Suran > wrote:

> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
> around? I like him. A lot!

So do I. I remember one of his recipes exactly. It was for a tuna
sandwich. Tuna, mayo and Wonder Bread. It was exactly the way I prefer a
tuna sandwich so I remembered it. I think he suggested milk as a
beverage for that meal.
He and Emeril were there near the start of the Food Network. Emeril used
to do "How to Boil Water". Of course, my memory is fading and I could be
wrong, but I don't think so. I miss him too.

leo

On Sun 16 Nov 2008 08:05:28p, Leonard Blaisdell told us...

> In article >,
> Margaret Suran > wrote:
>
>> What about David Rosengarten or whatever his name is. Is he still
>> around? I like him. A lot!
>
> So do I. I remember one of his recipes exactly. It was for a tuna
> sandwich. Tuna, mayo and Wonder Bread. It was exactly the way I prefer a
> tuna sandwich so I remembered it. I think he suggested milk as a
> beverage for that meal.
> He and Emeril were there near the start of the Food Network. Emeril used
> to do "How to Boil Water". Of course, my memory is fading and I could be
> wrong, but I don't think so. I miss him too.
>
> leo
>

I will always miss David Rosengarten on FoodTV. His was one of the very
few shows I always watched.

I will never miss any show that Emeril ever appeared in or currently
appears in. He totally turns me off in every sense of the word.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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In article 7>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> I will always miss David Rosengarten on FoodTV. His was one of the very
> few shows I always watched.
>
> I will never miss any show that Emeril ever appeared in or currently
> appears in. He totally turns me off in every sense of the word.

ditto.

leo

well, jesus, Andy. It isnt written anywhere that the Food Network cooks
HAVE to keep up with YOU.

I Learned everything I know from watching the FNW when I first moved to
the sticks and away from the restaurants I was used to eating in.

Every year a gazillion NEW people begin to learn---and for them, each
old re-run is a brand new learning opportunity. If you have out-grown
them, bully for you.

But right now, somebody is learning to fry chicken watching some old
Paula re-run. And Paiula is raking in one more residual check. That's a
Win-Win situation.

Maybe it's time for you to write a cook book? Clearly, you're WAY too
good a cook to waste any more time watching the TV cooks, but millions
of NEW WannaCooks arent.

LassChance


"Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop!

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 4:09pm From:
lid (Margaret*Suran)
Andy wrote:
Nancy Young said...
Andy wrote:
"Secrets of a restaurant chef" Another foodTV flop! She got a half hour
of my time and that's all.
If that's how it worked there would be no Iron Chef.
I like Secrets. She's okay in my book.
nancy
NOT directed at nancy:
I never enjoyed Iron Chef, either version. The PBS cooking shows while
fewer are much more "palatable." That and since I got digital cable,
there are a lot more interesting things to watch than FoodTV.
I like less and less FoodTV programs daily. Ellie being one I like. If
only she could pick another color blouse than powder blue once in
awhile. I can even enjoy Paula if it's a new show. I overdosed on foodTV
for years and everything is a repeat just about. I can't watch "The
Neely's" new OR old nor would I eat at their Memphis BBQ if I was in
town. Bobby Flay is too arrogant, Emeril, too shrill, Tyler good basics,
Malto Mario, not so much. Sandra Lee, too hard to take seriously, Ray,
too smiley and spastic. Alton needs more Good Eats/Less Repeats. In
general, all the hosts that "road trip" foods are dull and most of the
programming is ancient. The Dean boys are boring to look at and listen
to. Guy was funny with his quick quips for awhile. Sarah was fun but too
hurried. The Challenges were always boring (to move your work
successfully as part of the judging?). Duff, while making creative
cakes, I'd rather drink the beer of the same than eat his cakes. Nigella
I liked for a season or two. Jamie also got boring pretty quick. And the
new round of TV cooks that foodTV execs seemingly pull out of a hat and
throw on a stage are about the worst I've witnessed in years.
Andy