In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >> years.
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> So much for hormone-free turkey.
>
> -sw

It'd probably be really tough too. While I'm all for wild game, it
drastically changes the cooking technique for the most part.
Flavor may be richer, but texture tends to suffer.

I've cooked "hard" roosters so I know about eating adult birds. <g>
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> lid wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> >> product.
> >
> > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Los Angeles?

Sacramento.
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On Nov 18, 9:26�pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > BD > wrote:
>
> > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > anyway? �Safeway did you a favor. �Contact your local farmer.
>
> > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > straight. �Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>
> > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > years.
>
> > -sw
>
> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> product.

I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
manlihood.

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> > "Pete C." > wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > >> years.
> > >
> > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > product.
> >
> > So much for hormone-free turkey.
> >
> > -sw
>
> It'd probably be really tough too. While I'm all for wild game, it
> drastically changes the cooking technique for the most part.
> Flavor may be richer, but texture tends to suffer.

Well, for turkey at least, the texture improves significantly. Domestic
turkeys tend to have the texture of those pulp drink holder trays.

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>BD > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>
> >>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>
> >>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>years.
> >>
> >>-sw
> >
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>
> Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> visit for stitches.
>
> And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> on squirrels.

It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.

Pete C. wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>BD > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
>>>>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
>>>>
>>>>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
>>>>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>>>>
>>>>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
>>>>years.
>>>>
>>>>-sw
>>>
>>>
>>>And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
>>>license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
>>>product.
>>
>>Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
>>of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
>>crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>>
>>Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
>>visit for stitches.
>>
>>And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
>>encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
>>into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
>>on squirrels.
>
>
> It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
> flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
> plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
> thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.

Huh. Seems like an evolutionary disadvantage given that they live in an
environment full of trees.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>BD > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>
> >>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>
> >>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>years.
> >>
> >>-sw
> >
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>
> Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> visit for stitches.
>
> And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> on squirrels.

Squirrels commit suicide around here on a regular basis.
One of them knocked my power out for 2 hours not too long ago...

I took pics. Fried squirrel. <g>

They are not too bright and earn Darwin awards.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Kathleen wrote:
> >
> >>Pete C. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>BD > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>>>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>>>years.
> >>>>
> >>>>-sw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> >>>license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> >>>product.
> >>
> >>Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> >>of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> >>crashing into YOUR HEAD.
> >>
> >>Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> >>visit for stitches.
> >>
> >>And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> >>encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> >>into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> >>on squirrels.
> >
> >
> > It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
> > flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
> > plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
> > thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.
>
> Huh. Seems like an evolutionary disadvantage given that they live in an
> environment full of trees.

Trees don't move into their flight path like humans on mountain bikes
do.

Turkeys roost in trees. Turkeys need a running start to take off from
the ground and in heavy snow they won't come down to feed because they
know they can't get airborne again and will be easy prey for bobcats and
such. Turkeys have been known to starve to death and fall out of the
trees when there is heavy snow.

In article
>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > > BD > wrote:
> >
> > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> >
> > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >
> > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > years.
> >
> > > -sw
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> manlihood.

Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
hunting in your area. That sucks.

Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
hunt for food.

I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article
> >,
> Sheldon > wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > > BD > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > >
> > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > >
> > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > years.
> > >
> > > > -sw
> > >
> > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > product.
> >
> > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > manlihood.
>
> Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> hunting in your area. That sucks.
>
> Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> hunt for food.
>
> I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.

I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
are indeed processed and consumed.

In article >,
lid wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:58:55 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
> >yrs. Never have I encountered a problem. Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
> >we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
> >turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. Low and behold. once in
> >the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
> >turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
> >discount! This was not in the flyer. Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
> >I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
> >
> >Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
> >extortion sales gambit?
>
> I can't remember, EVER, a turkey sale at Thanksgiving that didn't
> require a minimum purchase, WITH exclusions on alcohol and milk!
>
> And I'm 60.

That's odd. Which Safeway do you shop at?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
lid wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:20:14 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>
> >Would that it was! This after driving 20 miles (hello ...price of gas!)
> >miles
>
> Relevant a while ago, NOT now with it back under $2.

Tell that to our friends in Italy, Germany and the UK. Not to mention
California.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
> > lid wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > >> product.
> > >
> > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Los Angeles?
>
> Sacramento.

Oops! They moved Sacramento?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:59:29 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Our chain of HEB's here in TX usually offer $.19/lb turkeys with
>additional purchase of $25, or $.09/lb for additional $50 purchase.
>Every year it's different, but it's always a deal. I usually end of
>up with 2 or 3 depending on how much room is in the fridge/freezer.

We have Kroger locally, and Randall's. Kroger is within walking
distance. We use their "loyalty card" for smalll discounts, usually on
their house brand stuff, some of which is pretty good. Last week I got
a pkg in the mail with a bunch of discount coupons and promo stuff,
onfe of which was a coupon for a free turkey. No strings attached!
That loyalty card also gets us 10cts off the posted price of gasoline.

Alex

In article .com>,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article
> > >,
> > Sheldon > wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > BD > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless
> > > > > > turkeys
> > > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > > >
> > > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > > >
> > > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > > years.
> > > >
> > > > > -sw
> > > >
> > > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > > product.
> > >
> > > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > > manlihood.
> >
> > Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> > hunting in your area. That sucks.
> >
> > Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> > hunt for food.
> >
> > I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
>
> I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
> too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
> are indeed processed and consumed.

I hope you get hunting lease fees?
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:
> >
> > > lid wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > >> product.
> > > >
> > > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Los Angeles?
> >
> > Sacramento.
>
> Oops! They moved Sacramento?

Sacramento is the capitol of California.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

On 2008-11-19, Dan Abel > wrote:

> Makes sense, though. With the old Safeway, you could afford to buy
> stuff that wasn't on sale. Now you can't. Since the turkey is a loss
> leader, they've got to get their money somewhere else. If people come
> in and just get the turkey, Safeway loses.

makes sense, Dan.

nb

On 2008-11-19, Kathleen > wrote:

> Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>
> Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> visit for stitches.
>
> And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> on squirrels.

LOL! priceless, Kathleen.

nb

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>> I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
>> yrs. Never have I encountered a problem. Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
>> we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
>> turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. Low and behold. once in
>> the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
>> turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
>> discount! This was not in the flyer. Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
>> I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
>>
>> Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
>> extortion sales gambit?
>>
>> nb
>
> I always thought it was SOP.
>
>

Yes, I always thought of it as a "bonus" for buying the required amount.

gloria p

On 2008-11-19, The Ranger > wrote:

> Sorry nb, you're rosy glasses are a little cracked; it's been
> that way here in the SFBA for decades.

Your claim is suspect, Range. Have you even been buying "for decades"?

> It's one of the [many] reasons I reduced my shopping load at
> that borg. I know your feelings on Gene's and Cosentino's....

Apparently not. While I revile Gene's, I love Cosentino's.

> when I use the card) and Costco, Smart and Final trump $afeway
> regularly.

Who doesn't?

nb

notbob wrote:

> Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country....
> encountered this extortion sales gambit?

We don't have Safeway in St. Louis, but minimum purchases have always
been the norm. It's $50 this year. Frankly, this is a silly tempest in
a teapot. It's hard to walk into the store and not spend $25 these days.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article .com>,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Sheldon > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > BD > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless
> > > > > > > turkeys
> > > > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > > > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -sw
> > > > >
> > > > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > > > product.
> > > >
> > > > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > > > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > > > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > > > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > > > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > > > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > > > manlihood.
> > >
> > > Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> > > hunting in your area. That sucks.
> > >
> > > Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> > > hunt for food.
> > >
> > > I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
> >
> > I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
> > too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
> > are indeed processed and consumed.
>
> I hope you get hunting lease fees?

No, not common in that part of the country, and it would open liability
issues. State law there protects landowners from liability if they let
others use their property for recreational purposes including hunting
without charge.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > George Shirley > wrote:
> > >
> > > > lid wrote:

> > > > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??

> > > > Los Angeles?
> > >
> > > Sacramento.
> >
> > Oops! They moved Sacramento?
>
> Sacramento is the capitol of California.

I've taken to flying out of the Sacramento airport. It's the closest to
me, as far as time. There are two other major airports that are closer,
in terms of miles, but the traffic is horrible. Other than 25 miles on
I-80, a part that isn't too bad for traffic, I take the back roads to
SMF (Sacramento airport). Not to mention the parking. Have I mentioned
the parking? 100 feet from my parking spot to the ticket counter. Have
I mentioned that it is usually cheaper?

Anyway, California is 900 miles north to south, and Sacramento is
nowhere near Southern California.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Pete C." wrote:
>
> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article .com>,
> > "Pete C." > wrote:
> >
> > > Omelet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > Sheldon > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > > > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > BD > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless
> > > > > > > > turkeys
> > > > > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > > > > years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -sw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > > > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > > > > product.
> > > > >
> > > > > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > > > > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > > > > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > > > > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > > > > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > > > > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > > > > manlihood.
> > > >
> > > > Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> > > > hunting in your area. That sucks.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> > > > hunt for food.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
> > >
> > > I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
> > > too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
> > > are indeed processed and consumed.
> >
> > I hope you get hunting lease fees?
>
> No, not common in that part of the country, and it would open liability
> issues. State law there protects landowners from liability if they let
> others use their property for recreational purposes including hunting
> without charge.

http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a...1633#LIABILITY

George Shirley wrote:

> lid wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> >> product.
> >
> > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Los Angeles?


Cucamonga...???


--
Best
Greg

Dan Abel said...

> Anyway, California is 900 miles north to south, and Sacramento is
> nowhere near Southern California.


Dan,

Yeah well, maybe 900 miles as the crow flies but jump on highway 101 and
it's 2,100 miles from L.A. to Arcata and back.

Sacramento was a fun oasis in a desert! Even toured the Capitol building.
Great place!!! Lost my Sacramento baseball cap I bought at the souvenir
shop!

Didn't see the Terminator while there either.

I'll be back!

Best,

Andy

Omelet wrote:

>>> Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
>>>
>> Los Angeles?
>
> Sacramento.

Geography, dear Om. Geography. Sac is NorCal. Not that we don't have our
share of turkeys running the state up here.

Speaking of -real- wild turkeys, Bob and I saw a huge flock just
yesterday, wandering about a pasture without any thought as to the
upcoming holidays. ;-)

We have lots of wild turkey here, as well as quail and pheasant. Bob
told me about some a large farm that had an accidental release of fowl
into the area, and they multiplied rapidly.

--Lin

notbob wrote:
> I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
> yrs. Never have I encountered a problem. Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
> we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
> turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. Low and behold. once in
> the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
> turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
> discount! This was not in the flyer. Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
> I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
>
> Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
> extortion sales gambit?
>
> nb

I was at a Safeway in DC on Monday and saw the freezers full of cheap
turkeys. I did not see any signs with restrictions, but I wasn't
there to buy a turkey, so I don't know how closely I was looking.

So...I just checked the online specials for my neighborhood store to
be sure before I posted this and it says:
Safeway or Manor House Turkey
10 to 22-lbs. Grade A. Frozen.
While Supplies Last. Limit 2 with a $25 minimum purchase. CLUB PRICE

49¢ lb

pat

Sqwertz wrote:
> BD > wrote:
>
>> Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
>> anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
>
> It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>
> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> years.
>
> -sw

OK, leave out "hormone laden". There are a couple nearby turkey farms
and thats where we get ours.

Pete C. wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> BD > wrote:
>>
>>> Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
>>> anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
>> It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
>> straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>>
>> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
>> years.
>>
>> -sw
>
> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> product.

I don't care for wild turkey. I have it numerous times and just don't
care for the taste. We have lots of them here and it wouldn't be a big
problem to get one. My favorite were the turkeys my uncle used to raise
on his farm. They were free range. They had much better taste than the
factory turkeys. He only raised enough for family members.

On Nov 18, 7:58*pm, notbob > wrote:
> I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
> yrs. *Never have I encountered a problem. *Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
> we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
> turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. *Low and behold. once in
> the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
> turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
> discount! *This was not in the flyer. *Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
> I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
>
> Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
> extortion sales gambit?
>
> nb

That's how most of the stores in New England do it. To get the sale
price, you need to purchase X amount above and beyond the birdie.

In article .com>,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article .com>,
> > "Pete C." > wrote:
> >
> > > Omelet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > Sheldon > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > > > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > BD > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless
> > > > > > > > turkeys
> > > > > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > > > > years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -sw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a
> > > > > > hunting
> > > > > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > > > > product.
> > > > >
> > > > > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > > > > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > > > > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > > > > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a
> > > > > camera
> > > > > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > > > > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > > > > manlihood.
> > > >
> > > > Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> > > > hunting in your area. That sucks.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> > > > hunt for food.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
> > >
> > > I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
> > > too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
> > > are indeed processed and consumed.
> >
> > I hope you get hunting lease fees?
>
> No, not common in that part of the country, and it would open liability
> issues. State law there protects landowners from liability if they let
> others use their property for recreational purposes including hunting
> without charge.

Bummer. :-(
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> > > > > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
>
> > > > > Los Angeles?
> > > >
> > > > Sacramento.
> > >
> > > Oops! They moved Sacramento?
> >
> > Sacramento is the capitol of California.
>
> I've taken to flying out of the Sacramento airport. It's the closest to
> me, as far as time. There are two other major airports that are closer,
> in terms of miles, but the traffic is horrible. Other than 25 miles on
> I-80, a part that isn't too bad for traffic, I take the back roads to
> SMF (Sacramento airport). Not to mention the parking. Have I mentioned
> the parking? 100 feet from my parking spot to the ticket counter. Have
> I mentioned that it is usually cheaper?
>
> Anyway, California is 900 miles north to south, and Sacramento is
> nowhere near Southern California.
>
> --
> Dan Abel

I see you missed the humor. ;-)

That's ok.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

In article > ,
Lin > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >>> Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> >>>
> >> Los Angeles?
> >
> > Sacramento.
>
> Geography, dear Om. Geography. Sac is NorCal. Not that we don't have our
> share of turkeys running the state up here.
>
> Speaking of -real- wild turkeys, Bob and I saw a huge flock just
> yesterday, wandering about a pasture without any thought as to the
> upcoming holidays. ;-)
>
> We have lots of wild turkey here, as well as quail and pheasant. Bob
> told me about some a large farm that had an accidental release of fowl
> into the area, and they multiplied rapidly.
>
> --Lin

I understand Lin. ;-) That was meant as humor.

I was referring to state reps.

I was born and raised in Southern CA... I miss the call of Valley
Quail, but I don't recall ever seeing wild turkeys.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

> I understand Lin. ;-) That was meant as humor.

I thought as much -- it was just the transitioning of the thread and
inflection is so hard to read sometimes!

> I was referring to state reps.
>
> I was born and raised in Southern CA... I miss the call of Valley
> Quail, but I don't recall ever seeing wild turkeys.

Seems I remember you mentioning SoCal. I was raised there as well --
Redondo Beach and North Hollywood -- till mom remarried and we moved to
Oklahoma when I was 11 or 12. Talk about culture shock!

I'd always heard that wild turkeys were the smartest birds -- very
elusive and difficult to hunt. I guess the ones around here never got
that memo. I'm waiting for a turkey uprising similar to the South Park
episode! ;-)

--Lin

In article > ,
Lin > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > I understand Lin. ;-) That was meant as humor.
>
> I thought as much -- it was just the transitioning of the thread and
> inflection is so hard to read sometimes!
>
> > I was referring to state reps.
> >
> > I was born and raised in Southern CA... I miss the call of Valley
> > Quail, but I don't recall ever seeing wild turkeys.
>
> Seems I remember you mentioning SoCal. I was raised there as well --
> Redondo Beach and North Hollywood -- till mom remarried and we moved to
> Oklahoma when I was 11 or 12. Talk about culture shock!
>
> I'd always heard that wild turkeys were the smartest birds -- very
> elusive and difficult to hunt. I guess the ones around here never got
> that memo. I'm waiting for a turkey uprising similar to the South Park
> episode! ;-)
>
> --Lin

Well, they ARE the national bird! Assigned by Benjamin Franklin. <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2008-11-19, Nancy Young > wrote:
> >
> >> with things like that. However, you know before you go, it's
> >> in the circular.
> >
> > Would that it was! This after driving 20 miles (hello ...price of gas!)
> > miles to take advantage of fraudulently advertised sale.
>
> You should have just demanded the advertised price. Are you sure
> there wasn't any fine print?

Or, he could have pulled an Andy. That would
have shown 'em.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
> yrs. Never have I encountered a problem. Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
> we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
> turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. Low and behold. once in
> the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
> turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
> discount! This was not in the flyer. Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
> I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
>
> Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
> extortion sales gambit?
>
> nb

I looked up Safeway's ad online. Harummpphh! I think you should have
threatened the mealy-mouthed little slimebucket with a visit from the
Colorado AG staffer in charge of consumer fraud and his buddy Vinny.
The store guy needs an "adjustment."

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
(Send her a note!)

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:05:38 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:


>I looked up Safeway's ad online. Harummpphh! I think you should have
>threatened the mealy-mouthed little slimebucket with a visit from the
>Colorado AG staffer in charge of consumer fraud and his buddy Vinny.
>The store guy needs an "adjustment."

I just looked it up online too..and the store ad says with minimun $25
purchase. This is for notbob's area.

Christine

"Pete C." > wrote:

> No Safeways around me that I'm aware of. Regular grocery stores in a
> couple states I'm familiar with typically have that "Free with $20
> purchase" type of special for a mid sized turkey.

Yet people will still buy $120 worth of groceries and one free
turkey instead of bringing friends or family members to split up the
purchases so that $120 gets you 5 free turkeys.

I usually buy one every day of the week since I stop at a grocery
store almost every night.

-sw