Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>
> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)

Breaded, fried groundhog..... This was served to me by my cousin who
told me it was chicken and then after I had seconds told me what it
really was. As I remember, it was pretty good actually.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:01:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Tracy wrote:
>
>>
>> This reminds me of the cold salad of diced carrots, beets, peas and
>> mayonnaise concoction my mother used to make every Thanksgiving. Hated
>> the stuff.
>
>Then there is the American traditional holiday dish.... the green bean,
>mushroom soup and dried onion casserole. My mother tried that one on us
>when we were young and I was unwilling to try it because I had recently
>visited my great uncle's farm and helped him slop the pigs with
>something that looked just like it. I wouldn't touch it for years, but
>gave it a try as few years ago. It's pretty good.

I grew up having that for many holidays and I actually did like it.
Now I can't stand it. It does have an ok flavor, but bean are so good
that they're wasted with the canned soup. Maybe if the soup was home
made it might be better.

Lou

Nina wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:59:21 -0600, Kathleen
> > wrote:
>
>> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>
>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>>> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>>> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>>>
>>> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>>> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>>> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>>>
>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)
>> Gamey, tough venison steak, served up with canned aspargus alongside.
>
> Oh, I forgot... gamy, overcooked, bone-dry venison. A *huge8 serving.
> Awful. Put me off venison for... well, pretty much for forever, I
> guess.
>
>
SOunds like somebody didn't know how to cook venison. Coming from a
family of hunters and being friends with hunters, I;ve eaten a lot of
venison over the years. The worse meals were made by people who didn;t
take into account the fact that venison is a very lean meat.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:04:30 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:38:07 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >My mother put leftover green beans and peas plus grated carrots in
>> >lemon gelatin.... She probably used the veggie-cooking water too.
>>
>> Ugggg.
>
>
>That's nothing, I've got some WWII recipe booklets with gelatin recipes that
>have not only veg in them but also Spam, baloney, liverwurst, etc. These
>were "quick and easy summer meals for busy wartime families"...

Good lard that sounds gastly. Maybe you should send the booklet to
cybergash to improve her cooking skills.

Lou

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:56:24 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>> I don't think as an adult I've ever made jello. When
>> Louise and I combined kitchens she had about 10 boxes of the stuff.
>> I'll bet some of these are 8-10 years old. I wonder if they're still
>> good?
>
>I they weren't any good back then, why should they be any better now?

LOL

Lou

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:01:23 -0800, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas>
wrote:

>My dad introduced us to Pacific oysters at an early age. Battered and deep
>fried.
>
>We had a deep fryer, and used to deep fry corn dogs, oysters, french fries
>(even had one of those things that you smashed the handle down, and out
>comes french fries), and we all could have shared a ward at heart surgery.
>But I digress.
>
>Then, I learned about Grand Isle salty oysters, in Louisiana. Available at
>a bar for a dime apiece on special days, and about $4 a sack at that time.
>I learned that raw oysters were a good thing.
>
>Now, I cannot eat Pacific oysters because they have large "parts".
>FERGEDDABOUT eating them raw. Small bay oysters are about the size of a
>silver dollar or so, and a Pacific oyster is about as big as a five spot.
>
>I love going to Texas and Louisiana.

Unfortunately living in Chicago oysters aren't something most of us
aren't experts on. The deep fried sounds interesting. I'd try it in
a heartbeat.

Lou

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:36:34 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:39:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>> I loathe oyster stuffing…just as much as I loathe turkey.
>>
>> I had heard so many people raving about it I tried making it in a pan.
>> It went in the trash. And I love oysters! That stuff was nasty.
>>
>> Lou
>
>Mayhaps I'll scratch that from my "to do" list.

It's just not a good match in my opinion. But I guess some people
love it. For the day before T-day Louise is making stuffing for a
work lunch party. They're deep frying a turkey. The owners
overweight, picky eating, vegetarian who eats fish daughter works
there. Funny just last night Louise said maybe for the vegetarian
dish she'd make a pan of oyster stuffing. It wasn't hard to talk her
out of it.

Lou

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:13:16 -0700, Gloria P >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:54:15 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>
>>> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
>>> even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
>>> think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>>
>> My mom fed it to us all the time as kids. With enough milk and sugar
>> I could get it down but I hated it. Oddly enough I make oatmeal
>> cookies all the time and love them.
>>
>> Lou
>
>If you think of oatmeal and Cream of Wheat as merely vehicles
>for butter and brown sugar (or maple syrup) they are a lot
>easier to love. Husband also puts raisins or craisins on top.
>Not me.

That's about what we did as kids. Luckily now I can choose what I
eat. <G> 5-6 years ago I was sick as a dog but had to finish up a job
so I could collect my money. I hadn't eaten much in two days and was
hungry for some comfort food like what my mom gave me as a kid. So I
stopped on the way home and bought a loaf of wonder bread and a box of
Cream of Wheat. Even as sick and hungry as I was it was horrible.
But I did get some food in me to hold me over till I slept 12 hours
and could make a good meal.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:55:22 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You can't get much worse than canned asparagus.
>>
>>Agreed. a.k.a. as 'Elephant snot' around here...
>
> LOL. Accurate description.

<g>

Asparagus is one of the few things my Mom never bought, canned or
fresh - no idea why - but some friends of ours used to serve the canned
stuff at some dinners when I was a teenager... I thought it was
disgusting. But when I tasted fresh asparagus, I was hooked.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:42:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

wrote:
>
>> I don't know what it was, but my mother liked to cook steaks
>> and chops until they were shoeleather. She used to claim that
>> my father wanted 'em that way, but I really don't buy it. I was
>> in my teens before I understood what a good medium-rare steak
>> tasted like. It must have something to do with the Depression or
>> WWII era cooks.
>
>It was the same in my house when I was a kid. We had a lot of beef and I
>never cared much for it.After I moved out on my own I discovered rare
>beef and how good it is.

Moving out was a huge eye opener to me also for many foods. That and
receiving the first bill with my name on it. <g> My mom overcooked
EVERYTHING. These days I remind her it was dead when she bought it
and it doesn't need to be killed again.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:01:23 -0800, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas>
> wrote:
>
>> My dad introduced us to Pacific oysters at an early age. Battered and deep
>> fried.
>>
>> We had a deep fryer, and used to deep fry corn dogs, oysters, french fries
>> (even had one of those things that you smashed the handle down, and out
>> comes french fries), and we all could have shared a ward at heart surgery.
>> But I digress.
>>
>> Then, I learned about Grand Isle salty oysters, in Louisiana. Available at
>> a bar for a dime apiece on special days, and about $4 a sack at that time.
>> I learned that raw oysters were a good thing.
>>
>> Now, I cannot eat Pacific oysters because they have large "parts".
>> FERGEDDABOUT eating them raw. Small bay oysters are about the size of a
>> silver dollar or so, and a Pacific oyster is about as big as a five spot.
>>
>> I love going to Texas and Louisiana.
>
> Unfortunately living in Chicago oysters aren't something most of us
> aren't experts on. The deep fried sounds interesting. I'd try it in
> a heartbeat.
>
> Lou
Alas, oysters from Texas and Louisiana won't be very good to eat since
Katrina, Rita, Gustav, and Ike. To much pollution washed into the bays
where they're harvested.

I live on the Gulf Coast in SW Louisiana and haven't seen a raw oyster
served in a restaurant for a good while. If you do find them they want
you to sign a waiver that you eat them at your own risk.

Used to scoff down a couple of dozen oysters on the half shell with
Tabasco and lemon juice and chased with a couple of bottles of beer.
Don't miss the beer but do miss the oysters.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:04:59 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:


>And there is *nothing* to match good lamb cooked well, it's the most tasty
>and succulent of meats...

And you'd be the meat expert Greg!! LOL. OK, sorry I couldn't resist
your "straight" line. I'm crakin me up this morning. Anyway I love
lamb too.

Lou

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:49:21 -0700, Gloria P wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
>> On Nov 19, 3:56�pm, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
>>> On Nov 19, 2:31�pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> I loved creamed eggs on toast. �Add a little dried beef and it's
>>>>> heavenly.
>>>>> N.
>>>> Oh gee, that thought perked me right up!
>>>> --
>>>> Jean B.
>>> Oh, I really like almost anything else creamed on toast: tuna, dried
>>> beef, salmon, peas, chicken whatever. It's just those danged sliced
>>> eggs sitting there in that white sauce staring up like big yellow
>>> eyeballs . . .
>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>
>> They're usually sliced in wedges... there are egg slices that do that.
>>
>
>
> Paring knives, too....
>
> gloria p

well, sure if you're going to go all la-di-dah on us.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:42:41 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:42:24 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thu 20 Nov 2008 06:38:07a, Jean B. told us...
>>
>>> My mother put leftover green beans and peas plus grated carrots in
>>> lemon gelatin.... She probably used the veggie-cooking water too.
>>>
>>
>>Thrifty generation, that. I remember my mother putting shredded carrots
>>and pineapple together in jello. Not too bad, actually. I don't recall her
>>ever putting leftover vegetables in it, though.
>
> I remember that too. I could eat it. But it's not something I'd try
> to make. Actually I've used unflavored gelatin for desert recipes a
> few times but I don't think as an adult I've ever made jello. When
> Louise and I combined kitchens she had about 10 boxes of the stuff.
> I'll bet some of these are 8-10 years old. I wonder if they're still
> good?
>
> Lou

i don't see why not. it's not like there's any food-type items in there to
spoil.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:25:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Thu 20 Nov 2008 10:26:32a, Nancy2 told us...
>
>
>> I love Perfection Salad. A BH & G recipe, I think. I don't recall
>> that my recipe has W. sauce in it, and I always use sliced pimiento-
>> stuffed olives.
>>
>> N.
>
> I think the Worcestershire sauce addition is from a JOC version.

at a quarter-teaspoon, who the hell would notice?

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:39:50 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:36:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I would say it could be any of a number of meals prepared by my sort of
>>> sister in law while visiting at their chalet. Sort of SiL because she is
>>> the ex-wife of my wife's late brother. She was an absolute health food
>>> fanatic who stuffed her kids with vitamin and mineral supplements,
>>> probably a good idea because she cooked the daylights out of all
>>> vegetables. She served nothing unless it had special nutritional value
>>> (which she usually cooked out of it)
>>>
>>> One time we went up to help with a construction project at the chalet.
>>> After a morning of hard work we were called in for lunch..... boiled
>>> eggs, plain yogurt and sunflower seeds. ... that was lunch.
>>
>> is this the one that got the goiter?
>>
>
> It was her daughter who got the goiter.

i was close, anyway. god bless them both.

your pal,
blake

Jean B. > wrote:
> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
> even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
> think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.

I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:57:01 -0600, Lou Decruss >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:01:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>Tracy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This reminds me of the cold salad of diced carrots, beets, peas and
>>> mayonnaise concoction my mother used to make every Thanksgiving. Hated
>>> the stuff.
>>
>>Then there is the American traditional holiday dish.... the green bean,
>>mushroom soup and dried onion casserole. My mother tried that one on us
>>when we were young and I was unwilling to try it because I had recently
>>visited my great uncle's farm and helped him slop the pigs with
>>something that looked just like it. I wouldn't touch it for years, but
>>gave it a try as few years ago. It's pretty good.
>
>I grew up having that for many holidays and I actually did like it.
>Now I can't stand it. It does have an ok flavor, but bean are so good
>that they're wasted with the canned soup. Maybe if the soup was home
>made it might be better.
>
>Lou


If you want green beans and mushrooms here is a dish I concocted a
couple of years ago.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Green Beans With Mushrooms

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Vegetables

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1/2 cup onion -- sliced
1/2 cup mushroom -- sliced
1 teaspoon olive oil
1 teaspoon marjoram -- dry
1 tablespoon butter, unsalted
1 tablespoon flour, all-purpose
1 cup milk, skim
4 cups green beans, canned -- drained

Saute onion and mushroom in the olive oil.
Add the marjoram
Add butter and let melt
Add flour
Stir until flour is cooked.
Add milk carefully and keep stirring until it makes a sauce.
Add beans and cook until hot. If using fresh beans cook and then add
to the sauce.
Add salt & pepper to taste.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- -

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 110 Calories; 4g Fat (33.6%
calories from fat); 5g Protein; 15g Carbohydrate; 4g Dietary Fiber;
9mg Cholesterol; 655mg Sodium. Exchanges: 0 Grain(Starch); 2
Vegetable; 1/2 Non-Fat Milk; 1 Fat.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:03 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
> wrote:

>What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>
>I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>
>Lynn in Fargo
>Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)

When I was 15, it was an extremely dry and hot Summer in Western
Europe, and my father took me for lunch on a Sunday at somebody's
house. Roast cornish hen, dry as hell (as cornish hen is wont to
become if you're not careful about how you cook it), and dry kasha. No
sauce. I must have drunk 2 liters of water during the meal.

Nathalie in Switzerland

On Fri 21 Nov 2008 07:02:09a, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Pinhead oats or a coarse multi-grained hot cereal are the only hot
>> cereals I care for. Cream of Wheat is much too smooth and rather
>> slime-like to me.
>>
> Less slimy than oatmeal (made from rolled oats). Yes, the
> non-rolled oats are edible. Indeed, when I get my cholesterol
> results, I may very well be eating more of them.
>
> Cream of Wheat does bring back unpleasant memories of my childhood
> and lumpy CoW. If it didn't get eaten for breakfast, that old,
> cold, solidified mass would reappear at meals until it was gone.
> Oh, we did have raisins and brown sugar--but parsimonious
> quantities doled out by mom....
>
> I can't say my thoughts turn to CoW now, unless it is to wonder
> about the Indian treatments of semolina--both sweet and savory.
> Or perhaps its use in Galaktoboureko (sp?).
>

Sounds like the parsimonious meals served in Lizzie Borden’s household, at
least according to legend.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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IOn Fri 21 Nov 2008 10:29:54a, blake murphy told us...

> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:25:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Thu 20 Nov 2008 10:26:32a, Nancy2 told us...
>>
>>
>>> I love Perfection Salad. A BH & G recipe, I think. I don't recall
>>> that my recipe has W. sauce in it, and I always use sliced pimiento-
>>> stuffed olives.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> I think the Worcestershire sauce addition is from a JOC version.
>
> at a quarter-teaspoon, who the hell would notice?
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

I would. I left it out once, and I could tell the difference.

--
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Lou Decruss wrote;

> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:04:59 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >And there is *nothing* to match good lamb cooked well, it's the most
tasty
> >and succulent of meats...
>
> And you'd be the meat expert Greg!! LOL. OK, sorry I couldn't resist
> your "straight" line. I'm crakin me up this morning.


Lol....

;-P


Anyway I love
> lamb too.


When it's done well it's *really* good, when done b-a-a-a-dly, well...

Decades ago my dad raised prize -winning sheep that won blue ribbons at the
Illinois State Fair, years later when I asked my mom if they ever ate lamb,
she said, "Not really, we didn't like it and it was considered 'poor food' "
(this was the late 40's). In that era they cooked meat to death so I guess
it figures...


--
Best
Greg

wrote:

> Jean B. > wrote:
>
>>Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
>>even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
>>think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>
>
> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
> both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
> but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
> particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

I like the steel cut irish oats. With dried apricots and almonds.

Texture is a big issue for me. Mooshy things are kind of gaggy.
Bananas, yogurt, cream of wheat, regular oatmeal with nothing else mixed
in, pudding.

I'll only eat bananas if they're still a little green, and I like the
little snack-sized ones best.

I almost always stirr something chewy or crunchy into the rest of the above.

Kathleen wrote on Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:00:45 -0600:

>> Jean B. > wrote:
>>
>>> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me
>>> years to even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I
>>> still don't think of them very often because of my early
>>> oatmeal experience.
>>
>> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had
>> them both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
>> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick
>> cooking stuff, but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in
>> years. No particular reason, just not something I'd
>> go out of my way for.
>>
>> Bill Ranck
>> Blacksburg, Va.

> I like the steel cut irish oats. With dried apricots and
> almonds.

> Texture is a big issue for me. Mooshy things are kind of
> gaggy. Bananas, yogurt, cream of wheat, regular oatmeal with
> nothing else mixed in, pudding.

> I'll only eat bananas if they're still a little green, and I
> like the little snack-sized ones best.

I don't like porridge (cooked oatmeal) but I like rolled oats dry with
raisins or other dried fruits. If I am going to have my milk quota for
the day I will drink it from a glass while eating the oats. Again, I
don't like the taste of plain milk but drinking it after some raisins is
not too bad.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:01:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

> >Then there is the American traditional holiday dish.... the green bean,
> >mushroom soup and dried onion casserole.


> I grew up having that for many holidays and I actually did like it.
> Now I can't stand it. It does have an ok flavor, but bean are so good
> that they're wasted with the canned soup. Maybe if the soup was home
> made it might be better.

Naw, try it the other way. Instead of improving the soup, downgrade the
beans to canned.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 07:02:09a, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> Pinhead oats or a coarse multi-grained hot cereal are the only hot
>>> cereals I care for. Cream of Wheat is much too smooth and rather
>>> slime-like to me.
>>>
>> Less slimy than oatmeal (made from rolled oats). Yes, the
>> non-rolled oats are edible. Indeed, when I get my cholesterol
>> results, I may very well be eating more of them.
>>
>> Cream of Wheat does bring back unpleasant memories of my childhood
>> and lumpy CoW. If it didn't get eaten for breakfast, that old,
>> cold, solidified mass would reappear at meals until it was gone.
>> Oh, we did have raisins and brown sugar--but parsimonious
>> quantities doled out by mom....
>>
>> I can't say my thoughts turn to CoW now, unless it is to wonder
>> about the Indian treatments of semolina--both sweet and savory.
>> Or perhaps its use in Galaktoboureko (sp?).
>>
>
> Sounds like the parsimonious meals served in Lizzie Borden’s household, at
> least according to legend.
>
Funny you should mention that. I do bring up Lizzie Borden elsewhere!

--
Jean B.

wrote:
> Jean B. > wrote:
>> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
>> even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
>> think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>
> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
> both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
> but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
> particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

Oatmeal was gluey and tasteless. Cream of Wheat was also lacking
in flavor, although it had the tiniest bit more flavor.

--
Jean B.

On Fri 21 Nov 2008 03:37:05p, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 07:02:09a, Jean B. told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> Pinhead oats or a coarse multi-grained hot cereal are the only hot
>>>> cereals I care for. Cream of Wheat is much too smooth and rather
>>>> slime-like to me.
>>>>
>>> Less slimy than oatmeal (made from rolled oats). Yes, the
>>> non-rolled oats are edible. Indeed, when I get my cholesterol
>>> results, I may very well be eating more of them.
>>>
>>> Cream of Wheat does bring back unpleasant memories of my childhood
>>> and lumpy CoW. If it didn't get eaten for breakfast, that old,
>>> cold, solidified mass would reappear at meals until it was gone.
>>> Oh, we did have raisins and brown sugar--but parsimonious
>>> quantities doled out by mom....
>>>
>>> I can't say my thoughts turn to CoW now, unless it is to wonder
>>> about the Indian treatments of semolina--both sweet and savory.
>>> Or perhaps its use in Galaktoboureko (sp?).
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the parsimonious meals served in Lizzie Borden’s household,
>> at least according to legend.
>>
> Funny you should mention that. I do bring up Lizzie Borden elsewhere!
>

I saw that, and thought the same thing! <g>

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On Fri 21 Nov 2008 03:37:05p, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 07:02:09a, Jean B. told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> Pinhead oats or a coarse multi-grained hot cereal are the only hot
>>>> cereals I care for. Cream of Wheat is much too smooth and rather
>>>> slime-like to me.
>>>>
>>> Less slimy than oatmeal (made from rolled oats). Yes, the
>>> non-rolled oats are edible. Indeed, when I get my cholesterol
>>> results, I may very well be eating more of them.
>>>
>>> Cream of Wheat does bring back unpleasant memories of my childhood
>>> and lumpy CoW. If it didn't get eaten for breakfast, that old,
>>> cold, solidified mass would reappear at meals until it was gone.
>>> Oh, we did have raisins and brown sugar--but parsimonious
>>> quantities doled out by mom....
>>>
>>> I can't say my thoughts turn to CoW now, unless it is to wonder
>>> about the Indian treatments of semolina--both sweet and savory.
>>> Or perhaps its use in Galaktoboureko (sp?).
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the parsimonious meals served in Lizzie Borden’s household,
>> at least according to legend.
>>
> Funny you should mention that. I do bring up Lizzie Borden elsewhere!
>

I saw that and thought the same thing! <g>

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In article >, wrote:

> Jean B. > wrote:
> > Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
> > even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
> > think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>
> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
> both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
> but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
> particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.

If you can get wholegrain rolled oats, give them a try. They make
_spectacular_ oatmeal.

Miche

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 03:37:05p, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 07:02:09a, Jean B. told us...
>>>
>>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>> Pinhead oats or a coarse multi-grained hot cereal are the only hot
>>>>> cereals I care for. Cream of Wheat is much too smooth and rather
>>>>> slime-like to me.
>>>>>
>>>> Less slimy than oatmeal (made from rolled oats). Yes, the
>>>> non-rolled oats are edible. Indeed, when I get my cholesterol
>>>> results, I may very well be eating more of them.
>>>>
>>>> Cream of Wheat does bring back unpleasant memories of my childhood
>>>> and lumpy CoW. If it didn't get eaten for breakfast, that old,
>>>> cold, solidified mass would reappear at meals until it was gone.
>>>> Oh, we did have raisins and brown sugar--but parsimonious
>>>> quantities doled out by mom....
>>>>
>>>> I can't say my thoughts turn to CoW now, unless it is to wonder
>>>> about the Indian treatments of semolina--both sweet and savory.
>>>> Or perhaps its use in Galaktoboureko (sp?).
>>>>
>>> Sounds like the parsimonious meals served in Lizzie Borden’s household,
>>> at least according to legend.
>>>
>> Funny you should mention that. I do bring up Lizzie Borden elsewhere!
>>
>
> I saw that, and thought the same thing! <g>
>
We must have read or seen the same thing(s) on the incident and
what preceded it!

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Miche wrote:
> In article >, wrote:
>
>> Jean B. > wrote:
>>> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
>>> even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
>>> think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
>> both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
>> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
>> but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
>> particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.
>
> If you can get wholegrain rolled oats, give them a try. They make
> _spectacular_ oatmeal.
>
> Miche
>
Is it... (shudder) slimy? Gluey?

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In article >,
Gloria P > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> > "Pete C." wrote:
> >> Nina wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gamey, tough venison steak, served up with canned aspargus alongside.
> >>> Oh, I forgot... gamy, overcooked, bone-dry venison. ?A *huge serving.
> >>> Awful. ?Put me off venison for... well, pretty much for forever, I
> >>> guess.
> >> Well, I can assure you that cooked properly venison is very, very good.
> >> You will find it on the menu at many higher end restaurants.
> >
> > That's because restaurants serve *farmed* venison.
>
>
> You can FARM deer? Really? Who knew?

I did. Deer farming was invented in New Zealand back in the '70s. Guys
would go out in helicopters, catch feral deer and take them out of the
bush.

> I have never had wild venison that didn't contain at least one
> spring of hair/fur. Dis-GUS-ting.
>
> Now, when a Mighty Hunter offers us venison I say "No,Thank You"
> politely, and if they insist, I take it home and it goes immediately in
> the trash.

Oh, man. Next time give it to me!

> I ate wild rabbit as a kid and was convinced it was chicken (my dad did
> that to lots of people.) I don't like the gamy flavors. Moose
> tenderloin and farm-raised bison ribroast is delicious. Smaller game,
> not so much.

Wild rabbit and wild pork are both delicious. Oh well, more for me!

Miche

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In article . com>,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Nina wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:02:16 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:

> > >I expect you probably don't like lamb then either, or disguise it's
> > >wonderful flavor with mint jelly or similar. I am 100% convinced that
> > >mint does not belong anywhere near lamb and is only a cover to get those
> > >with less diverse palettes to eat lamb.
> >
> > Well, despite my lack of enthusiasm for badly-cooked venison, I'd say
> > that I have a very diverse palate. But I like mint with lamb. NOT
> > that icky sweet apple jelly with mint, but a real mint sauce as one is
> > more likely to have in England. There's a difference between using an
> > herb or spice to enhance a flavor versus using it to mask the taste.
>
> Well, to my diverse palate at least, I find mint to mask, not enhance
> the flavor of lamb. All lamb needs in my book is salt and pepper, or in
> the case of some middle eastern recipes some yogurt, cardamom, etc.

Try it with fresh rosemary, garlic and coarse salt.

Miche

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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Miche wrote:
> > In article >, wrote:
> >
> >> Jean B. > wrote:
> >>> Oh good! Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. It took me years to
> >>> even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. I still don't
> >>> think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
> >> I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. I had them
> >> both as a kid and pretty much liked them. I still like oatmeal
> >> made from rolled oats. None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
> >> but real oatmeal is just fine. I haven't had CoW in years. No
> >> particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.
> >
> > If you can get wholegrain rolled oats, give them a try. They make
> > _spectacular_ oatmeal.
> >
> Is it... (shudder) slimy? Gluey?

Not if it's made right.

I have a very low tolerance for slimy/gluey, and this has never given me
a problem.

Miche

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"Jean B." wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> > There's nothing wrong with a *decently-cooked* pot of oat porridge. What
> > I had served to me, with all good intentions (woke up with a nasty cold
> > so friend tried to make me feel better), wouldn't even have made decent
> > wallpaper paste. The rest of that breakfast was equally depressing LOL.
>
> I guess that depends on the definition of "decently cooked". :-)
>
> --
> Jean B.

Of course it does. But it rarely means something that needs to be cut
with a knife...

On Nov 21, 8:58 am, "Jean B." > wrote:

Back to that fish chowder... That sounds thoroughly
> disgusting and downright dangerous. Did the woman lack a sense of
> smell? Ugh!


Nah - she was one of those overconfident, takeover types. When she
joined this particular organization, she came in with both feet
flying, mouth going, and acted like she owned the joint. I daresay
she never even tasted that awful soup. Her nerve was demonstrated by
her standing behind the buffet and ladling out a bowl to everyone,
whether they wanted it or not. No one but no one had ever done that
before. Me - I never even wanted to identify my dish ( which was
usually a broccoli, bacon and creamy dressing affair) for fear it
would garner a negative comment. She moved out of town and wasn't
missed, but I bet they still talk about that fish soup.

Miche > wrote:
> wrote:
> > Jean B. > wrote:
> > > Oh good! �Someone else has mentioned oatmeal. �It took me years to
> > > even try the steel-cut oats, which are edible. �I still don't
> > > think of them very often because of my early oatmeal experience.
>
> > I don't get all the oatmeal and cream-of-wheat haters. �I had them
> > both as a kid and pretty much liked them. �I still like oatmeal
> > made from rolled oats. �None of this instant or quick cooking stuff,
> > but real oatmeal is just fine. �I haven't had CoW in years. �No
> > particular reason, just not something I'd go out of my way for.
>
> If you can get wholegrain rolled oats, give them a try. �They make
> _spectacular_ oatmeal.


Steel cut (pinhead) oats are the ultimate.
http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx

On Fri 21 Nov 2008 04:47:11p, Jean B. told us...

> We must have read or seen the same thing(s) on the incident and
> what preceded it!

Probably so. There have been many accounts of the Borden murders over the
years. Many, of course, were merely historical recountings of the events,
but I particularly enjoyed Elizabeth Montgomery’s performance as Lizzie in
the TV movie, which was also supposed to be as historically accurate as
possible. Much of the actual detail is still unknown and will probably
always be.

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Miche > wrote:

> Deer farming was invented in New Zealand back in the '70s.

You probably mean initiation of modern large-scale commercial farming.
It appears that at the time of deer farming "invention", New Zealand was
by all accounts uninhabited, certainly not by the deer. See, for
example, <http://foragesoftexas.tamu.edu/pdf/deerfarming.pdf>.

Victor