In article >,
(Victor Sack) wrote:

> Miche > wrote:
>
> > Deer farming was invented in New Zealand back in the '70s.
>
> You probably mean initiation of modern large-scale commercial farming.
> It appears that at the time of deer farming "invention", New Zealand was
> by all accounts uninhabited, certainly not by the deer. See, for
> example, <http://foragesoftexas.tamu.edu/pdf/deerfarming.pdf>.

Wow, I genuinely did not know that! How cool!

Miche

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:27:24 -0800 (PST), val189
> wrote:


>I once visited a new bride who was attempting to cook spaghetti in ONE
>INCH of WATER. The contents of 1 pound BOX of spaghetti was lying in
>a tight bundle on the side of the pot. I screamed I guess without
>thinking and had her add more water immediately. Didn't she ever see
>her mother boil pasta?
>
>Someday I'll have to try her method just to see what happens, but I
>hate to waste the power, time and the pasta. .

No, don't try it like that, it really *will* be terrible. You can make
pasta though (not spaghetti, short pasta like penne) like risotto, and
it's very good.

Nathalie in Switzerland

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Gloria P wrote:
>
>>
>> If you think of oatmeal and Cream of Wheat as merely vehicles
>> for butter and brown sugar (or maple syrup) they are a lot
>> easier to love. Husband also puts raisins or craisins on top.
>> Not me.
>
>
> Am I the only one who really likes oatmeal? I think it is delicious. I use
> either the large flake or steel cut, which has much more flavour than the
> quicker cooking varieties.

Nope, I like it. I do vary what I put in it, used to be sugar (lots) though
now splenda, sometimes applesauce, cinnamon, raisins, brown sugar, milk,
powdered maple, whatever I feel like.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 04:47:11p, Jean B. told us...
>
>> We must have read or seen the same thing(s) on the incident and
>> what preceded it!
>
> Probably so. There have been many accounts of the Borden murders over the
> years. Many, of course, were merely historical recountings of the events,
> but I particularly enjoyed Elizabeth Montgomery’s performance as Lizzie in
> the TV movie, which was also supposed to be as historically accurate as
> possible. Much of the actual detail is still unknown and will probably
> always be.
>
True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
it kind-of sickening.

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On Sat 22 Nov 2008 12:17:08p, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 04:47:11p, Jean B. told us...
>>
>>> We must have read or seen the same thing(s) on the incident and
>>> what preceded it!
>>
>> Probably so. There have been many accounts of the Borden murders over
>> the years. Many, of course, were merely historical recountings of the
>> events, but I particularly enjoyed Elizabeth Montgomery’s performance
>> as Lizzie in the TV movie, which was also supposed to be as
>> historically accurate as possible. Much of the actual detail is still
>> unknown and will probably always be.
>>
> True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
> veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
> think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
> it kind-of sickening.

I would rather like going there.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 22 Nov 2008 12:17:08p, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Fri 21 Nov 2008 04:47:11p, Jean B. told us...
>>>
>>>> We must have read or seen the same thing(s) on the incident and
>>>> what preceded it!
>>> Probably so. There have been many accounts of the Borden murders over
>>> the years. Many, of course, were merely historical recountings of the
>>> events, but I particularly enjoyed Elizabeth Montgomery’s performance
>>> as Lizzie in the TV movie, which was also supposed to be as
>>> historically accurate as possible. Much of the actual detail is still
>>> unknown and will probably always be.
>>>
>> True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
>> veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
>> think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
>> it kind-of sickening.
>
> I would rather like going there.
>
Believe it or not, the house is now a Bed and Breakfast (and museum):

http://www.lizzie-borden.com/

How creepy. I don't think I'd like to sleep there.

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jmcquown wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:03 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>>> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>>> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>>>
>>> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>>> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>>> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>>>
>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)
>>
>> Turkey stuffing that was so watery it poured off a serving spoon.
>>
>
> You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before (or
> since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it "parted"
> like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was gawd awful stuff!
>
> Jill

Eated?

-dk

On Sat 22 Nov 2008 05:30:49p, D K told us...

> jmcquown wrote:
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:03 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>>> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>>>> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>>>> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>>>>
>>>> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>>>> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>>>> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>>> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)
>>>
>>> Turkey stuffing that was so watery it poured off a serving spoon.
>>>
>>
>> You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before (or
>> since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it "parted"
>> like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was gawd awful
stuff!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Eated?
>
> -dk
>

That’s what they did at her former MIL’s.

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:23:08 -0700, Gloria P >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>No, I DO like lamb with or without mint. I especially like lamb roast
>which has been pierced and had lots of garlic slivers inserted.

Then you'd love my favorite shishkebab - good for lamb or beef:

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Shishkebab Marinade

barbecue

1 cup salad oil
1/2 cup lemon juice
2 teaspoons salt
2 teaspoons marjoram
2 teaspoons thyme
1 teaspoon pepper
2 cloves garlic; minced
1 cup onion; chopped
1/2 cup parsley; snipped

Mix ingredients together and marinate shishkebab meat overnight in a
ziploc bag in a bowl in the refrigerator, turning bag whenever you
think of it.

Thread meat and vegetables on a skewer and grill, basting occasionally
with marinade.

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Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:17:08 -0500, "Jean B." > fired up
random neurons and synapses to opine:

>True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
>veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
>think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
>it kind-of sickening.

My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:30:00 -0600, Lou Decruss >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>That's about what we did as kids. Luckily now I can choose what I
>eat. <G> 5-6 years ago I was sick as a dog but had to finish up a job
>so I could collect my money. I hadn't eaten much in two days and was
>hungry for some comfort food like what my mom gave me as a kid. So I
>stopped on the way home and bought a loaf of wonder bread and a box of
>Cream of Wheat. Even as sick and hungry as I was it was horrible.
>But I did get some food in me to hold me over till I slept 12 hours
>and could make a good meal.

My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
milk poured over it. To this day, when I'm sick, I want milk toast. Or
brandy. Depends on the degree of sickness :-D

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

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-- W.C. Fields

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sat 22 Nov 2008 08:27:39p, Terry Pulliam Burd told us...

> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:17:08 -0500, "Jean B." > fired up
> random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
>>veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
>>think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
>>it kind-of sickening.
>
> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>

I’m not sure why, but I find that rather intriguing.


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On Sat 22 Nov 2008 08:32:01p, Terry Pulliam Burd told us...

> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:30:00 -0600, Lou Decruss >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>That's about what we did as kids. Luckily now I can choose what I
>>eat. <G> 5-6 years ago I was sick as a dog but had to finish up a job
>>so I could collect my money. I hadn't eaten much in two days and was
>>hungry for some comfort food like what my mom gave me as a kid. So I
>>stopped on the way home and bought a loaf of wonder bread and a box of
>>Cream of Wheat. Even as sick and hungry as I was it was horrible.
>>But I did get some food in me to hold me over till I slept 12 hours
>>and could make a good meal.
>
> My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
> that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
> milk poured over it. To this day, when I'm sick, I want milk toast. Or
> brandy. Depends on the degree of sickness :-D

My mother did the same, Terry, but every time I ate it I puked. You’d
think she’d have caught on. The very thought of drinking warm or hot milk,
let alone poured over toast makes hot water come up in my mouth. UGH!


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In article >,
Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:30:00 -0600, Lou Decruss >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
> >That's about what we did as kids. Luckily now I can choose what I
> >eat. <G> 5-6 years ago I was sick as a dog but had to finish up a job
> >so I could collect my money. I hadn't eaten much in two days and was
> >hungry for some comfort food like what my mom gave me as a kid. So I
> >stopped on the way home and bought a loaf of wonder bread and a box of
> >Cream of Wheat. Even as sick and hungry as I was it was horrible.
> >But I did get some food in me to hold me over till I slept 12 hours
> >and could make a good meal.
>
> My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
> that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
> milk poured over it. To this day, when I'm sick, I want milk toast. Or
> brandy. Depends on the degree of sickness :-D

Buttered toast in a shallow bowl. Pour hot milk over. Grind a little
black pepper. Eat. Feel better soon.

I don't think I've had that in almost 50 years!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sat 22 Nov 2008 08:46:39p, Dan Abel told us...

> In article >,
> Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:30:00 -0600, Lou Decruss >
>> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>>
>> >That's about what we did as kids. Luckily now I can choose what I
>> >eat. <G> 5-6 years ago I was sick as a dog but had to finish up a job
>> >so I could collect my money. I hadn't eaten much in two days and was
>> >hungry for some comfort food like what my mom gave me as a kid. So I
>> >stopped on the way home and bought a loaf of wonder bread and a box of
>> >Cream of Wheat. Even as sick and hungry as I was it was horrible.
>> >But I did get some food in me to hold me over till I slept 12 hours
>> >and could make a good meal.
>>
>> My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
>> that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
>> milk poured over it. To this day, when I'm sick, I want milk toast. Or
>> brandy. Depends on the degree of sickness :-D
>
> Buttered toast in a shallow bowl. Pour hot milk over. Grind a little
> black pepper. Eat. Feel better soon.
>
> I don't think I've had that in almost 50 years!
>

I hope I don’t have to face for another 50 years. I should be dead before
then.

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Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
> that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
> milk poured over it.

To me, this appears to be an inferior (because reversed - first bread
should be soaked, *then* toasted, or - much better - fried in good fat)
version of the German Arme(r) Ritter, the French pain perdu, the Spanish
torrijas, and the American "French toast", all deriving from the ancient
Apicius recipe.

Victor

"MareCat" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>>>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>>> I wouldn't say disgusting. Just not what I expected. We were
>>>> invited to a couples house for "goulash". Turned out it was
>>>> home-made Beefaroni! It wasn't bad but it wasn't Hungarian Goulash
>>>> by any means
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I discovered in recent years that "goulash" to some folks means a
>>> made-up dish of some sort of cooked pasta, tomato sauce and whatever,
>>> that is then covered with cheese and baked for a while.
>>> Janet
>>
>>
>> I don't remember cheese but it was large elbow pasta, tomato sauce and
>> ground beef
>
> That was "goulash" at our house when I was growing up (in PA).
>
> Mary
>

Around here, folks call it American Chop Suey.


>

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

That certainly wouldn't appeal to me. Was it his idea to do this?

My daughter was thinking of going to Salem, Mass. for their
Halloween doings. Of course, with the "witch" connection, they
make a big deal of it. (In fact, they milk it for all it's worth
all year round, and especially in the fall, leading up to
Halloween.) I don't know precisely what they do, but my daughter
ended up not going, because we were not sure of the transportation
thereafter.
--
Jean B.

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> My mother fed sick kids "milk toast," which was toasted white bread
> that was then buttered, sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon and had warm
> milk poured over it. To this day, when I'm sick, I want milk toast. Or
> brandy. Depends on the degree of sickness :-D
>

For some reason, I turn to tomato or COMS when I am
sick--sometimes even when I am about to be sick (a bad sign!). I
never eat COMS otherwise. I alaso never ate tomato soup
otherwise, although now that I have discovered Annie's, I actually
do eat some at random times.

--
Jean B.

Victor Sack wrote:
> To me, this appears to be an inferior (because reversed - first bread
> should be soaked, *then* toasted, or - much better - fried in good fat)
> version of the German Arme(r) Ritter, the French pain perdu, the Spanish
> torrijas, and the American "French toast", all deriving from the ancient
> Apicius recipe.
>
> Victor

But would that taste good or go down well when one is sick?

Now I am going to have to look for that recipe. I obviously need
to look more closely at Apicius. Luckily, I do have at least two
copies here, and I think I can find at least one of them.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
>
> My daughter was thinking of going to Salem, Mass. for their Halloween
> doings. Of course, with the "witch" connection, they make a big deal of
> it. (In fact, they milk it for all it's worth all year round, and
> especially in the fall, leading up to Halloween.) I don't know precisely
> what they do, but my daughter ended up not going, because we were not sure
> of the transportation thereafter.
> --
> Jean B.

If you've never been there, it is a nice day trip for the family. While
they certainly milk the witch thing, there are maritime museums and exhibits
of interest, House of 7 Gables, etc. Nice way to spend a day.

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:27:39 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:17:08 -0500, "Jean B." > fired up
> random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>True. Much is speculation at this point. I always think of
>>veering off toward Fall River when I am down in that direction. I
>>think my daughter would get a kick out of it. OTOH, I would find
>>it kind-of sickening.
>
> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>
>

i thought he was a business lawyer. how gruesome can that be?

your pal,
blake

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> If you've never been there, it is a nice day trip for the family. While
> they certainly milk the witch thing, there are maritime museums and exhibits
> of interest, House of 7 Gables, etc. Nice way to spend a day.
>
>
Oh, we actually get there fairly frequently. There are a few
shops that my daughter likes. I really like the Peabody Essex
Museum too. I actually drove through there just yesterday, on my
way to a book sale in neighboring Beverly.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. > wrote:

> Victor Sack wrote:
> > To me, this appears to be an inferior (because reversed - first bread
> > should be soaked, *then* toasted, or - much better - fried in good fat)
> > version of the German Arme(r) Ritter, the French pain perdu, the Spanish
> > torrijas, and the American "French toast", all deriving from the ancient
> > Apicius recipe.
>
> But would that taste good or go down well when one is sick?

If it seems too dry, you can always have a glass of something to
accompany it. It may even be something alcoholic, which is sometimes
just what one needs when one is ill. Ha!

> Now I am going to have to look for that recipe. I obviously need
> to look more closely at Apicius. Luckily, I do have at least two
> copies here, and I think I can find at least one of them.

It is basically pieces of bread soaked in milk, fried in oil and served
with honey poured over them.

Victor

Victor Sack wrote:
> Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> Victor Sack wrote:
>>> To me, this appears to be an inferior (because reversed - first bread
>>> should be soaked, *then* toasted, or - much better - fried in good fat)
>>> version of the German Arme(r) Ritter, the French pain perdu, the Spanish
>>> torrijas, and the American "French toast", all deriving from the ancient
>>> Apicius recipe.
>> But would that taste good or go down well when one is sick?
>
> If it seems too dry, you can always have a glass of something to
> accompany it. It may even be something alcoholic, which is sometimes
> just what one needs when one is ill. Ha!

Uh, not me. Alcohol would only make me sicker.
>
>> Now I am going to have to look for that recipe. I obviously need
>> to look more closely at Apicius. Luckily, I do have at least two
>> copies here, and I think I can find at least one of them.
>
> It is basically pieces of bread soaked in milk, fried in oil and served
> with honey poured over them.
>
> Victor

I am going to look right now.... Surprise, surprise, it is even
listed under French Toast in Vehling's index. For anyone else who
may be curious:

Another Sweet Dish (Aliter Dulcia)
Source: Apicius: Cookery and Dining in Imperial Rome, ed. and
trans. by Joseph Dommers Vehling. I am using the Dover reprint of
1977. Caps as in original.

"BREAK [slice] FINE WHITE BREAD, CRUST REMOVED, INTO RATHER LARGE
PIECES WHICH SOAK IN MILK [and beaten eggs] FRY IN OIL, COVER
WITH HONEY AND SERVE."

Don't you think the eggs would make a critical difference?

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 22 Nov 2008 05:30:49p, D K told us...
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:03 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>>>> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>>>>> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>>>>> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>>>>> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>>>>> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>>>> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)
>>>> Turkey stuffing that was so watery it poured off a serving spoon.
>>>>
>>> You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before (or
>>> since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it "parted"
>>> like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was gawd awful
> stuff!
>>> Jill
>> Eated?
>>
>> -dk
>>
>
> That’s what they did at her former MIL’s.
>

That must be a Tennessee word that my relatives from Tennessee never use.

-sk

On Sun 23 Nov 2008 04:34:24p, D K told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 22 Nov 2008 05:30:49p, D K told us...
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:59:03 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the worst thing you've ever been served at a friend's house?
>>>>>> Like when you're a kid and you "eat over" somewhere and they serve
>>>>>> something you wouldn't eat on a bet but they're nice people and it's
>>>>>> your friend and you gotta eat it to be polite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember being in the seventh grade and eating dinner at a friends
>>>>>> house a during Lent and the mom served creamed hard-boiled eggs on
>>>>>> toast. I still shudder remembering it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn in Fargo
>>>>>> Probably why I converted to Judaism ;-)
>>>>> Turkey stuffing that was so watery it poured off a serving spoon.
>>>>>
>>>> You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before
(or
>>>> since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it
"parted"
>>>> like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was gawd awful
>> stuff!
>>>> Jill
>>> Eated?
>>>
>>> -dk
>>>
>>
>> That’s what they did at her former MIL’s.
>>
>
> That must be a Tennessee word that my relatives from Tennessee never use.
>
> -sk
>

As a kid, I remember hearing a few country folk in Mississippi say “eated”,
but not my relatives.

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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:15:35 -0500, "Jean B." > fired up
random neurons and synapses to opine:

>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

>> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
>> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
>> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>
>
>That certainly wouldn't appeal to me. Was it his idea to do this?

No, it was the girlfriend's. And if anyone's interested, here's the
link:

http://www.esotouric.com/

You payin' attention, Wayne? <g>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:23:12 GMT, blake murphy
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:27:39 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>
>
>> i thought he was a business lawyer. how gruesome can that be?

My boss definitely represents businesses, but they're almost all
outdoor advertising companies (First and Fourth Amendment issues)
which are pretty damned scary entities. You never saw such a bunch of
damned cutthroats in your life. And those are just the city attorneys
we have to deal with - our clients are even scarier!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"Some weasel took the cork out of my lunch!"

-- W.C. Fields

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Sun 23 Nov 2008 07:21:08p, Terry Pulliam Burd told us...

> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:15:35 -0500, "Jean B." > fired up
> random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>>> My boss and his girlfriend-du-jour took a Halloween bus tour in
>>> downtown LA last month that stopped at the sites of infamous murders.
>>> Even my boss was kind of grossed out - and he's a lawyer! <g>
>>
>>That certainly wouldn't appeal to me. Was it his idea to do this?
>
> No, it was the girlfriend's. And if anyone's interested, here's the
> link:
>
> http://www.esotouric.com/
>
> You payin' attention, Wayne? <g>
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Copied, in case I ever get there. <g>


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Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> No, it was the girlfriend's. And if anyone's interested, here's the
> link:
>
> http://www.esotouric.com/
>
> You payin' attention, Wayne? <g>
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Brief glance at the site... No, that doesn't appeal to me at all.

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:33:10 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:55:22 +0200, ChattyCathy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can't get much worse than canned asparagus.
>>>
>>>Agreed. a.k.a. as 'Elephant snot' around here...
>>
>> LOL. Accurate description.
>
><g>
>
>Asparagus is one of the few things my Mom never bought, canned or
>fresh - no idea why - but some friends of ours used to serve the canned
>stuff at some dinners when I was a teenager... I thought it was
>disgusting. But when I tasted fresh asparagus, I was hooked.

Yep. Fresh and canned are light years apart. Most canned veggies are
nasty. Asparagus takes a few years to produce and our patch should
yield next year.

Lou

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:23:22 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:01:26 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>
>> >Then there is the American traditional holiday dish.... the green bean,
>> >mushroom soup and dried onion casserole.
>
>
>> I grew up having that for many holidays and I actually did like it.
>> Now I can't stand it. It does have an ok flavor, but bean are so good
>> that they're wasted with the canned soup. Maybe if the soup was home
>> made it might be better.
>
>Naw, try it the other way. Instead of improving the soup, downgrade the
>beans to canned.

<snork>

Lou

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:45:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sun 23 Nov 2008 04:34:24p, D K told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Sat 22 Nov 2008 05:30:49p, D K told us...
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:f
>>>>>>
>>>>> You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before
> (or
>>>>> since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it
> "parted"
>>>>> like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was gawd awful
>>> stuff!
>>>>> Jill
>>>> Eated?
>>>>
>>>> -dk
>>>>
>>>
>>> That’s what they did at her former MIL’s.
>>>
>>
>> That must be a Tennessee word that my relatives from Tennessee never use.
>>
>> -sk
>>
>
> As a kid, I remember hearing a few country folk in Mississippi say “eated”,
> but not my relatives.

not the relatives they told you about.

your pal,
blake

On Nov 19, 4:00 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Lou Decruss wrote:
> >> Turkey stuffing that was so watery it poured off a serving spoon.
> > You must have eated at my former MIL's house LOL I've never before
> > (or since) seen dressing so runny if you ran a spoon through it it
> > "parted" like the Red Sea and then went right back again. It was
> > gawd awful stuff!
>
> That is nauseating. I saw that on some cooking show last
> year. It looked like a barf casserole.
>
> nancy

I saw that cooking show, too - was it Paula Deen's? I'm thinking it
was, because it amazed me that anyone would think it looked good.

In our nearby Amana Colonies, well-known for their family-style
service at the restaurants (German food), one of the newer restaurants
serves dressing like that - it looks just like barf. I had never seen
such a thing before, and couldn't make myself try it.

N.

On Nov 20, 8:16 am, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Nov 19, 6:09 pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:40:30 -0600, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
>
> > >Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> > >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:29:56 -0800 (PST), Sheldon >
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >"Pete C." > wrote:
> > >> >> Nina wrote:
>
> > >> >> > One man's meat is another's poison.... ? my grandmother used to make
> > >> >> > creamed eggs on toast, and it was fantastic.
>
> > >> >> I'm not familiar with this, how does it compare to egg salad? Same thing
> > >> >> under a different name, or a completely different preparation.
>
> > >> >Creamed eggs... actually quite good.
>
> > >> >http://www.recipezaar.com/Ultimate-Creamed-Eggs-221005
>
> > >> That recipe needs a splash of worcestershire sauce and/or hot sauce.
> > >> I agree it is pretty good.
>
> > >> Lou
>
> > >Ah, so pretty close to egg salad, just hot and with b chamel instead of
> > >mayonnaise.
>
> > I guess you could say that. I think you could add whatever you want.
> > Unlike egg salad it's not going to hold well I don't think.
>
> Since with creamed the eggs are actually recooked in the sauce they'll
> probably hold a little better than egg salad, which doesn't really
> keep well at all. But there are many variables, such as how long
> unrefrigerated at table and if it contains raw onion. Under the best
> conditions (except for pickled eggs) I'd not consider any cooked egg
> dish safe more than two days in the fridge. .. I think more than 24
> hours is stretching it.

I usually keep egg salad about 4 days in the fridge, if not left out
at serving time. I like it on toast, for breakfast, liberally
sprinkled with pepper. Mine is just mayo and eggs, plus salt & pepper
- nothing else.

N.

Jean B. > wrote:

> I am going to look right now.... Surprise, surprise, it is even
> listed under French Toast in Vehling's index. For anyone else who
> may be curious:
>
> Another Sweet Dish (Aliter Dulcia)
> Source: Apicius: Cookery and Dining in Imperial Rome, ed. and
> trans. by Joseph Dommers Vehling. I am using the Dover reprint of
> 1977. Caps as in original.
>
> "BREAK [slice] FINE WHITE BREAD, CRUST REMOVED, INTO RATHER LARGE
> PIECES WHICH SOAK IN MILK [and beaten eggs] FRY IN OIL, COVER
> WITH HONEY AND SERVE."
>
> Don't you think the eggs would make a critical difference?

Sure, but I do not see any eggs in the original:

"Aliter dulcia: siligineos rasos frangis et buccellas maiores facies. in
lacte infundis, frigis et in oleo, mel superfundis et inferes."

The egg suggestion was probably added by the translator, maybe for a
good reason.

Victor

Victor Sack wrote:
> Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> I am going to look right now.... Surprise, surprise, it is even
>> listed under French Toast in Vehling's index. For anyone else who
>> may be curious:
>>
>> Another Sweet Dish (Aliter Dulcia)
>> Source: Apicius: Cookery and Dining in Imperial Rome, ed. and
>> trans. by Joseph Dommers Vehling. I am using the Dover reprint of
>> 1977. Caps as in original.
>>
>> "BREAK [slice] FINE WHITE BREAD, CRUST REMOVED, INTO RATHER LARGE
>> PIECES WHICH SOAK IN MILK [and beaten eggs] FRY IN OIL, COVER
>> WITH HONEY AND SERVE."
>>
>> Don't you think the eggs would make a critical difference?
>
> Sure, but I do not see any eggs in the original:
>
> "Aliter dulcia: siligineos rasos frangis et buccellas maiores facies. in
> lacte infundis, frigis et in oleo, mel superfundis et inferes."
>
> The egg suggestion was probably added by the translator, maybe for a
> good reason.
>
> Victor

Yes, I think that is why the eggs are in parentheses.

--
Jean B.