For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.

I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. It's
not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are your
thoughts?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
> refrigerator. I bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move
> here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
> It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
> dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think
> we should have to provide one. What are your thoughts?

Is the refrigerator in bad shape? The appliances can be used
as a negotiating point, but really, who wants to move appliances
halfway across the country anyway. Better off leaving them, but
I probably wouldn't replace them unless it was really bad. The
realtor will probably tell you what's usual in that area.

My house came with all the appliances, I don't remember even
asking for them.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
>> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
>> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move
>> here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
>> It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
>> dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think
>> we should have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>
> Is the refrigerator in bad shape? The appliances can be used
> as a negotiating point, but really, who wants to move appliances
> halfway across the country anyway. Better off leaving them, but
> I probably wouldn't replace them unless it was really bad. The
> realtor will probably tell you what's usual in that area.
>
> My house came with all the appliances, I don't remember even
> asking for them.
>
> nancy


The refrigerator is in great shape; it's only about 10 years old. I don't
see the need to buy a new one. It's a side by side with the ice and water
dispenser on the freezer door. Some people might want a bottom freezer
drawer. I think Goomba recently bought one of those? I like the looks of
them with the racks and stuff. Some people might want stainless; this
fridge is off-white. People want to decorate in their own way, that's kind
of how I'm looking at it.

Jill

On Nov 25, 9:55*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
> > house we need to buy a new refrigerator. *He and I were roommates in
> > the 1980's and we *rented* a house. *It didn't come with a
> > refrigerator. *I bought one.
>
> > I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> > selling a house. *Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> > retirees move. *It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> > nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. *People who move
> > here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
> > It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
> > dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. *But I don't think
> > we should have to provide one. *What are your thoughts?
>
> Is the refrigerator in bad shape? *The appliances can be used
> as a negotiating point, but really, who wants to move appliances
> halfway across the country anyway. *Better off leaving them, but
> I probably wouldn't replace them unless it was really bad. *The
> realtor will probably tell you what's usual in that area. *
>
> My house came with all the appliances, I don't remember even
> asking for them.
>
> nancy

===========================================
If the refrigerator is in such bad shape that it looks bad in the
kitchen, consider buying a used one and donate the old one to charity.
If it's really new or special replace it with a used one and ship it
with any other big stuff you're keeping.
If it matches the rest of the appliances leave it.
Just my 2cents.
Lynn in Fargo

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
> If the refrigerator is in such bad shape that it looks bad in the
> kitchen, consider buying a used one and donate the old one to charity.
> If it's really new or special replace it with a used one and ship it
> with any other big stuff you're keeping.
> If it matches the rest of the appliances leave it.
> Just my 2cents.
> Lynn in Fargo


I live in an apartment; I don't need a refrigerator It wouldn't fit in
my tiny kitchen anyway. The brother who suggested this built a house a few
years ago so he's got a pretty new refrigerator. I think we should just
offer this one with the house when we sell it. (Washer & dryer, too.) I'm
just saying I don't see the need to buy a new one in order to sell the
house. Maybe I'm wrong.

Jill

On Nov 25, 8:09*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
> >>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
> >>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
> >>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>
> > If the refrigerator is in such bad shape that it looks bad in the
> > kitchen, consider buying a used one and donate the old one to charity.
> > If it's really new or special replace it with a used one and ship it
> > with any other big stuff you're keeping.
> > If it matches the rest of the appliances leave it.
> > Just my 2cents.
> > Lynn in Fargo
>
> I live in an apartment; I don't need a refrigerator *It wouldn't fit in
> my tiny kitchen anyway. *The brother who suggested this built a house a few
> years ago so he's got a pretty new refrigerator. *I think we should just
> offer this one with the house when we sell it. *(Washer & dryer, too.) *I'm
> just saying I don't see the need to buy a new one in order to sell the
> house. *Maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Jill

I agree with you- if they don't like it, they can buy a new one...

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> I live in an apartment; I don't need a refrigerator It wouldn't fit in
> my tiny kitchen anyway. The brother who suggested this built a house a few
> years ago so he's got a pretty new refrigerator. I think we should just
> offer this one with the house when we sell it. (Washer & dryer, too.) I'm
> just saying I don't see the need to buy a new one in order to sell the
> house. Maybe I'm wrong.

Personally, I'd find it easier to leave all the major appliances.
Removal, transportation and reinstallation is to much for this old guy.
Not having to do it would be well worth the price of the fridge or at
least the fridges I'm apt to buy.
But if your brother wants it, he should exclusively deal with it.

leo

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>
> Personally, I'd find it easier to leave all the major appliances.
> Removal, transportation and reinstallation is to much for this old guy.
> Not having to do it would be well worth the price of the fridge or at
> least the fridges I'm apt to buy.
> But if your brother wants it, he should exclusively deal with it.

I would think that the decision would be up to the executor of the
estate. Input .... and help.. from the family should be welcomed. But I
just don't see the point in getting rid of the old fridge and installing
a new one. It is a money loser. The old one can be thrown in on the deal
if it is a functional fridge. If the buyer wants a new fridge and is
going to be paying for it then he/she is going to want to choose it. A
brand new fridge will become suddenly become a used fridge and be worth
only half what they pay for it.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
>need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
>we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>
>I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
>house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. It's
>not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
>going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
>probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
>possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
>the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are your
>thoughts?


What's wrong with the one that's there now?

Anyway, you are right and your brother is wrong. A house can be sold
either way.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
>> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have
>> absolutely nothing to their name) are going to buy the house.
>> People who move here are pretty well set and they probably have
>> their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of possiblity to
>> throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell the
>> house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are
>> your thoughts?
>
>
> What's wrong with the one that's there now?
>
> Anyway, you are right and your brother is wrong. A house can be sold
> either way.
>
> Lou


There's nothing wrong with it! That's sort of my point We can sell the
house with the existing refrigerator. I don't see the need to buy a brand
new one. People like to decorate in their own way. I say get rid of the
ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint. There's no point doing a
major redecoration job and no point in buying a new refrigerator. Unless he
just wants to pay for it out of his own pocket

Jill

On Nov 25, 10:04*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

> There's nothing wrong with it! *That's sort of my point *We can sell the
> house with the existing refrigerator. *I don't see the need to buy a brand
> new one. *People like to decorate in their own way. *I say get rid of the
> ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint. *There's no point doing a
> major redecoration job and no point in buying a new refrigerator. *Unless he
> just wants to pay for it out of his own pocket
>
> Jill
==============================================

A lot, too, depends on the market value of the house. If it is what
they call around here a "starter house" and likely to be bought by a
first time home owner, You really need to leave SOME kind of
refrigerator. Very few couples or families who have been renting can
afford to drop nearly $1000 for a new refrigerator. You're right,
Ditch the old wall paper and paint (off white) I'd replace carpet
before I replaced appliances!
Lynn in Fargo

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> On Nov 25, 10:04 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> There's nothing wrong with it! That's sort of my point We can
>> sell the house with the existing refrigerator. I don't see the need
>> to buy a brand new one. People like to decorate in their own way. I
>> say get rid of the ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint.
>> There's no point doing a major redecoration job and no point in
>> buying a new refrigerator. Unless he just wants to pay for it out of
>> his own pocket
>>
>> Jill
> ==============================================
>
> A lot, too, depends on the market value of the house. If it is what
> they call around here a "starter house" and likely to be bought by a
> first time home owner, You really need to leave SOME kind of
> refrigerator. Very few couples or families who have been renting can
> afford to drop nearly $1000 for a new refrigerator. You're right,
> Ditch the old wall paper and paint (off white) I'd replace carpet
> before I replaced appliances!
> Lynn in Fargo


This is definitely not a "starter house". Everyone who lives here is
retired. (I think I'm probably the youngest person living here and I'm 48).
It's a golfing community. The house is on an island of the coast of SC.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in news:6p2n4vF5u4rmU1
@mid.individual.net:

> (I think I'm probably the youngest person living here and I'm 48).
>

Hello you sweet young thing!

--

The beet goes on -Alan

jmcquown wrote:
> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 10:04 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with it! That's sort of my point We can
>>> sell the house with the existing refrigerator. I don't see the need
>>> to buy a brand new one. People like to decorate in their own way. I
>>> say get rid of the ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint.
>>> There's no point doing a major redecoration job and no point in
>>> buying a new refrigerator. Unless he just wants to pay for it out of
>>> his own pocket
>>>
>>> Jill
>> ==============================================
>>
>> A lot, too, depends on the market value of the house. If it is what
>> they call around here a "starter house" and likely to be bought by a
>> first time home owner, You really need to leave SOME kind of
>> refrigerator. Very few couples or families who have been renting can
>> afford to drop nearly $1000 for a new refrigerator. You're right,
>> Ditch the old wall paper and paint (off white) I'd replace carpet
>> before I replaced appliances!
>> Lynn in Fargo
>
>
> This is definitely not a "starter house". Everyone who lives here is
> retired. (I think I'm probably the youngest person living here and I'm
> 48). It's a golfing community. The house is on an island of the coast
> of SC.
>
> Jill

Hey, how close is the house to Charleston?

On Nov 25, 11:17�am, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
> On Nov 25, 10:04�am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> > There's nothing wrong with it! �That's sort of my point �We can sell the
> > house with the existing refrigerator. �I don't see the need to buy a brand
> > new one. �People like to decorate in their own way. �I say get rid of the
> > ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint. �There's no point doing a
> > major redecoration job and no point in buying a new refrigerator. �Unless he
> > just wants to pay for it out of his own pocket
>
> > Jill
>
> ==============================================
>
> A lot, too, depends on the market value of the house. �If it is what
> they call around here a "starter house" and likely to be bought by a
> first time home owner, You really need to leave SOME kind of
> refrigerator. �Very few couples or families who have been renting can
> afford to drop nearly $1000 for a new refrigerator. You're right,
> Ditch the old wall paper and paint (off white) I'd replace carpet
> before I replaced appliances!
> Lynn in Fargo

Nope, you call in a carpet cleaning/steaming company, for under $200
they'll make the carpet in every room look practically new... new
carpeting with installation is expensive and often the new people
won't like what you chose so will replace it.

Sheldon wrote:

> Nope, you call in a carpet cleaning/steaming company, for under $200
> they'll make the carpet in every room look practically new... new
> carpeting with installation is expensive and often the new people
> won't like what you chose so will replace it.

Yep. People move into a new house and more often than not they do all
the remodelling either before moving in or shortly after. They change
the carpeting, paint the walls, hang new wall paper, change the curtains
and lights. Painting and cleaning up may help sell teh house faster but
it doesn't get you any extra money.

jmcquown wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>>> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
>>> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have
>>> absolutely nothing to their name) are going to buy the house.
>>> People who move here are pretty well set and they probably have
>>> their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of possiblity to
>>> throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell the
>>> house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are
>>> your thoughts?
>>
>>
>> What's wrong with the one that's there now?
>>
>> Anyway, you are right and your brother is wrong. A house can be sold
>> either way.
>>
>> Lou
>
>
> There's nothing wrong with it! That's sort of my point We can sell
> the house with the existing refrigerator. I don't see the need to buy a
> brand new one. People like to decorate in their own way. I say get rid
> of the ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint. There's no
> point doing a major redecoration job and no point in buying a new
> refrigerator. Unless he just wants to pay for it out of his own pocket
>
> Jill

I think the best bet is to do as you describe. Take a cue from those
"sell this house" shows. People tend to be pretty clueless and focus on
stupid stuff that is easily remedied like room colors and wallpaper.
Don't give them the chance. Pick some color scheme and give everything a
fresh coat.

George wrote:

> I think the best bet is to do as you describe. Take a cue from those
> "sell this house" shows. People tend to be pretty clueless and focus
> on stupid stuff that is easily remedied like room colors and
> wallpaper. Don't give them the chance. Pick some color scheme and
> give everything a fresh coat.

It's funny. Oh, I can't live with these green walls, I hate
that color! Hello, you paint over it. A color you like. Never
fails to amaze me.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>>> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
>>> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have
>>> absolutely nothing to their name) are going to buy the house.
>>> People who move here are pretty well set and they probably have
>>> their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of possiblity to
>>> throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell the
>>> house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are
>>> your thoughts?
>>
>>
>> What's wrong with the one that's there now?
>>
>> Anyway, you are right and your brother is wrong. A house can be sold
>> either way.
>>
>> Lou
>
>
> There's nothing wrong with it! That's sort of my point We can sell
> the house with the existing refrigerator. I don't see the need to buy a
> brand new one. People like to decorate in their own way. I say get rid
> of the ridiculous 1985 wallpaper and slap on some paint. There's no
> point doing a major redecoration job and no point in buying a new
> refrigerator. Unless he just wants to pay for it out of his own pocket
>
> Jill

See what a real estate agent from the area says. Comperables are their
business. They will know whether you should sell without a fridge.

The two places I've owned homes, Central New Jersey and
way-the-heck-south Texas do not sell homes with refrigerators as a rule.
A stove of some sort is required as is a dishwasher (if there is a
built-in) otherwise all appliances are extras.

In the NJ house we bought our own fridge. In the Texas house, it was
brand new but the builder allowed us to pick out range dishwasher and
range hood (we got a microwave/rangehood combo) The refrigerator and
washer and dryer were our responsibility.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Janet Wilder wrote:
>

> See what a real estate agent from the area says. Comperables are their
> business. They will know whether you should sell without a fridge.

I thought the issue was whether they should buy a new fridge to be sold
with the house.

jmcquown > wrote:

>For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
>need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
>we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.

>I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
>house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. It's
>not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
>going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
>probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
>possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
>the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are your
>thoughts?

I think it's dependent on location. There are areas of the
U.S. where almost all houses sold have a refrigerator in them.
But I would think even in those areas, the average buyer would
not care if one isn't there.

I might check with a local realty agent or two and see what
they think.

Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>>For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
>>need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
>>we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>
>>I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling
>>a
>>house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move.
>>It's
>>not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name)
>>are
>>going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
>>probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
>>possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we
>>sell
>>the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are
>>your
>>thoughts?
>
> I think it's dependent on location. There are areas of the
> U.S. where almost all houses sold have a refrigerator in them.
> But I would think even in those areas, the average buyer would
> not care if one isn't there.
>
> I might check with a local realty agent or two and see what
> they think.
>
> Steve

I agree with Steve about the realtor. See what SC law 'requires' you to
leave. Here in PA we had to leave a stove, but not a fridge, but did
anyway. Get outside advice from more than one realtor and go with the
consensus. Don't let your brother bamboozle you into something you don't
see a need for. If the realtor(s) tell you that leaving a fridge is not
important, have it put in writing that the cost of a new one comes out of
your brother's share of the inheritance not jointly shared by all of
you.....this may change his mind. Have you considered selling it as
investment property? My BFF (today's her 25th Anniversary - Love ya lots,
Lar) lives in Bluffton and they and a few other of their friends own
'investment' homes besides the one's they live in. If that is the case,
whoever buys it will gut it and do it in their own taste, so a fridge would
be a waste of money. Snow birds from up this way like the option of renting
instead of buying, and the locals use the property as an additional income.
Good luck.
-ginny

jmcquown wrote:
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
> refrigerator. I bought one.
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move
> here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
> It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
> dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think
> we should have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>
> Jill

I expect a house to have a refrigerator. A lot of the time, they are either
built in or so integrated into the kitchen design that it's hard to use a
substitute.

A friend of mine has a property that had been on the market for a long time.
He hired a new realtor, who hired a "stager." He was told, amongst other
things, to buy a new fridge with a certain look. The house sold almost
immediately after being staged, without the price cut that the prior realtor
was pushing. FWIW.

"jmcquown" > wrote in
:

> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house
> we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the
> 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator.
> I bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move
> here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
> It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
> dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think
> we should have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>
> Jill
>
>

I've never bought a house with fridge. Why would you want somebody's old
fridge? Even if it is less than a yr or 2 old? So with a fridge supplied
it limits any colour the new people would paint/decorate with. Waste of a
fridge. I'm guessing middle brother just wants a fridge, or wants more
attention.

--

The beet goes on -Alan

hahabogus wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in
> :
>
>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
>> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
>> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move
>> here are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances.
>> It's not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and
>> dryer and even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think
>> we should have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> I've never bought a house with fridge. Why would you want somebody's
> old fridge? Even if it is less than a yr or 2 old? So with a fridge
> supplied it limits any colour the new people would paint/decorate
> with. Waste of a fridge. I'm guessing middle brother just wants a
> fridge, or wants more attention.


LOL Alan. He's got a practically new refrigerator. He just built a house
so everything in his kitchen is practically new. I have no idea what he's
thinking. I thought maybe I was nuts. Turns out he's nuts And I agree
about the decorating limitations. Let people put in what they want.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

>>>
>>
>> I've never bought a house with fridge. Why would you want somebody's
>> old fridge? Even if it is less than a yr or 2 old? So with a fridge
>> supplied it limits any colour the new people would paint/decorate
>> with. Waste of a fridge. I'm guessing middle brother just wants a
>> fridge, or wants more attention.
>
>
> LOL Alan. He's got a practically new refrigerator. He just built a
> house so everything in his kitchen is practically new. I have no idea
> what he's thinking. I thought maybe I was nuts. Turns out he's nuts
> And I agree about the decorating limitations. Let people put in
> what they want.

You're right Jill. He is the one who is nuts. People getting a new
appliance wants to pick it themselves. They may want specific features,
like sliding shelves, side by side, or bottom freezer. If you go out and
get a brand new fridge for .. say $1,000 and leave it with the house,
the new owner is getting a used fridge and you would be lucky to get
$500 for it..... if that. They may not want it at all, which means you
will be out $1,000.

OTOTH, you can offer to include a fridge in working order, one which
you might get $100 if you were to sell it, or you may have to make a
trip the the dump, or donate it to a charity that will pick it up.

"jmcquown" ha scritto nel messaggio
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
> need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
> > we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling
> a > house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move.
> It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their
> name) are going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well
> set and they > probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the
> realm of > possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge
> when we sell the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one.
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Jill

Some states require there be one, some don't. Assuming there is one I would
not replace it. Making a place look spacious and clean is one thing-- making
it redecorated and reapplianced is another. People like that there's
something to use, but they won't pay you extra for a fridge you chose.

Giusi wrote:
> "jmcquown" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
>> need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
>> > we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling
>> a > house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move.
>> It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their
>> name) are going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well
>> set and they > probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the
>> realm of > possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge
>> when we sell the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one.
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Some states require there be one, some don't. Assuming there is one I would
> not replace it. Making a place look spacious and clean is one thing-- making
> it redecorated and reapplianced is another. People like that there's
> something to use, but they won't pay you extra for a fridge you chose.
>
>


I think some states require landlords to provide a refrigerator and a
stove. I am fairly certain Massachusetts is one of them. I have never
heard a fridge being required for the sale of home.

When we sold our condo last year, the most important thing we did was
put most of our belongings in storage - books, photos, artwork, etc. It
was more important for the potential buyers to see a blank canvas, not
your (or your mother's) decorating style - as nice as it might be. ;-)

I would leave the fridge since it is only 10 years old. If it is
something a buyer wants to replace - let him or her do that.

-Tracy

Tracy wrote:
>
> I would leave the fridge since it is only 10 years old. If it is
> something a buyer wants to replace - let him or her do that.

A ten year old fridge is OLD!

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:49:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
>need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
>we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>
>I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
>house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. It's
>not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
>going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
>probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
>possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
>the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are your
>thoughts?
>
>Jill


Leave it there. The house we bought 5 years ago did not come with a
refrigerator and there was a definite place where it would go.
Fortunately ours fit perfectly.

The buyers can either keep it and use it or donate or sell it. Do as
little as possible and spend as little as possible on getting it ready
to sell. That way buyers can use the difference to make their own
improvements. When we sold our house before moving here we did
nothing but paint and clean carpets, etc. The kitchen really needed
to be improved but I figure that my tastes would not necessarily match
what someone else would like. The house was appraised and priced that
way. The ad went into the paper on Wednesday and the purchase
agreement was signed on Friday. Obviously the housing market where
you are and the current conditions are very different.

jmcquown wrote:
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house
> we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the
> 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I
> bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move here
> are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances. It's
> not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and
> even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think we should
> have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>
> Jill

If the house already has a fridge and it is in good shape, leave it.
Having existing major appliances is a selling point, as long as
everything is is good working order. That being said, I wouldn;t run out
and spend several hundred to thousand on a fridge, stove, dishwasher,
washer and dryer, etc. If is is there already and works, great leave
it/them. If they are dead or dying or gone, just clean the empty spots...

If you are going to spend money on anything, think about hiring a
painter and having the house professionally cleaned. A fresh coat of
paint is an inexpensive way to improve the house and hiring a cleaner
means you don't have to break your own hump scrubbing.

George wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>> selling a house.
>>
> If the house already has a fridge and it is in good shape, leave it.
> Having existing major appliances is a selling point, as long as
> everything is is good working order. That being said, I wouldn;t run
> out and spend several hundred to thousand on a fridge, stove,
> dishwasher, washer and dryer, etc. If is is there already and works,
> great leave it/them. If they are dead or dying or gone, just clean
> the empty spots...
> If you are going to spend money on anything, think about hiring a
> painter and having the house professionally cleaned. A fresh coat of
> paint is an inexpensive way to improve the house and hiring a cleaner
> means you don't have to break your own hump scrubbing.


I've already called the painter my parents used. Gotta get rid of that 1985
wallpaper in the kitchen, that much I do know He'll be out to talk with
me next week about it. I'll also have a maid service come in and do a "deep
cleaning". Thanks George!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in
:

> George wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this
>>> house we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in
>>> the 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a
>>> refrigerator. I bought one.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
>>> selling a house.
>>>
>> If the house already has a fridge and it is in good shape, leave it.
>> Having existing major appliances is a selling point, as long as
>> everything is is good working order. That being said, I wouldn;t run
>> out and spend several hundred to thousand on a fridge, stove,
>> dishwasher, washer and dryer, etc. If is is there already and works,
>> great leave it/them. If they are dead or dying or gone, just clean
>> the empty spots...
>> If you are going to spend money on anything, think about hiring a
>> painter and having the house professionally cleaned. A fresh coat of
>> paint is an inexpensive way to improve the house and hiring a cleaner
>> means you don't have to break your own hump scrubbing.
>
>
> I've already called the painter my parents used. Gotta get rid of
> that 1985 wallpaper in the kitchen, that much I do know He'll be
> out to talk with me next week about it. I'll also have a maid service
> come in and do a "deep cleaning". Thanks George!
>
> Jill
>
>

On second thoughts about the fridge...I said to myself...self what do you
know about what sells a house in SC....My answer to me was Ask the
Realtor.

--

The beet goes on -Alan

It all depends on how much moiney you want to make.

People buy houses just FOR the incredible kitchens/bathrooms. Most
folks do NOT want to go out and buy appliances. This is stupid, of
course, because IF they went and bought their own kitchen apps, clearly
they would save money....but you cant go wrong underestimating the
intelligence of the public. Or their imaginations.

If a person looks at three houses, all basically with the same rumber
oif rooms, etc, and one has a fancy kitchen, that is the one that will
sell.

If I ever decide to sell, I will take an equity loan and remodel both
bathrooms and the kitchen with top of the line stuff. Because livable
space sells, I will convert my garage into a downstairts living area,
change the garagte door to sliding glass, add a galley kitchen....and
add fifty grand OR MORE to the value, OVER what the work will cost me.
I might even borrow an extra 20 K and build a descending deck OFF my
deck going out over the stream, with a gazebo on it, complete with a
fancy schmantzy gas grill and fridge and wine cooler....heh heh
heh....adding perhaps an extra 100 K, along wioth the new bathrooms and
fancy kitchen.

I agree it isnt worth it to JUST go buy a fridge...but IF you can, get a
new top of the line fridge,, replace the dishwasher, stove, etc. with
top of the line matching gear....Likewise, re-do the bathrooms with
up-to-date amenities, like the "bowl" type sinks and "no-touch" toilets
that flush automatically. Add the cost to the selling price PLUS an
extra 10- 20 grand.

You have to remember that people with money are looking for houses, just
as people without money are---and the people WITH money arent worried
about getting a mortgage loan. So, fancy UP to meet the moneyed market.
The "poor" folks who might buy your house "as is" without a fridge
probably cant get a mortgage loan, anyway......and the folks WITH money
wont be interested.


LassChance

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:13:49 -0500, (Lass
Chance_2) wrote:

>You have to remember that people with money are looking for houses, just
>as people without money are---and the people WITH money arent worried
>about getting a mortgage loan. So, fancy UP to meet the moneyed market.
>The "poor" folks who might buy your house "as is" without a fridge
>probably cant get a mortgage loan, anyway......and the folks WITH money
>wont be interested.

1. Can your neighborhood support the price?
2. It's not a good idea to be the most expensive house in the
neighborhood.
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On Tue 25 Nov 2008 08:49:10a, jmcquown told us...

> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house
> we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the
> 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I
> bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move here
> are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances. It's
> not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and
> even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think we should
> have to provide one. What are your thoughts?
>
> Jill

Jill, I would simply throw in all the existing appliances. There is
absolutely no need to provide a new refrigerator unless the present one
isn’t functioning.

When we sold our home in Ohio to move to Arizona, that’s exactly what we
did, and the buyers were quite happy with what they got. It was certainly
no starter house, and the buyers were probably in their eary/mid-50s.

Of course, you’ll get 1001 opinions on this.

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jmcquown wrote:
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house
> we need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the
> 1980's and we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I
> bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're
> selling a house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where
> retirees move. It's not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely
> nothing to their name) are going to buy the house. People who move here
> are pretty well set and they probably have their own appliances. It's
> not outside the realm of possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and
> even the fridge when we sell the house. But I don't think we should
> have to provide one. What are your thoughts?

Good heavens no. You can include the old fridge in the sale of the house
and use it as a bargaining chip. If it is in working order and
prospective buyers don't want it, call a charity store and they will
come and pick it up. The buyers may not even be interested in it if they
have their own fridge, and they may not even like the kind you buy.
There is nothing to be gained by buying a new fridge. You won't get back
what you pay for a new fridge. It is a lose-lose proposition.


My mother died last year and we sold her condominium without a fridge or
stove. The fridge went to one brother and the stove went to my other
brother for his son.

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell this house we
> need to buy a new refrigerator. He and I were roommates in the 1980's and
> we *rented* a house. It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.
>
> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
> house. Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. It's
> not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
> going to buy the house. People who move here are pretty well set and they
> probably have their own appliances. It's not outside the realm of
> possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
> the house. But I don't think we should have to provide one. What are your
> thoughts?
>
> Jill

I agree with you.
--
Peace! Om

"All People and things are interdependent. The world has become so small that no nation can solve its problems alone, in isolation from others. That is why I believe we must all cultivate a sense of responsibility based on love and compassion for each other." -- Dalai Lama

I wouldn't bother. Chances are, you put in a side by side and the
buyer likes over and under or vice versa. My house came with a
fridge and I let my old ones go with the house I sold.

"jmcquown" wrote:
> For some reason my middle brother thinks before we can sell
> _this house_ we need to buy a new refrigerator. �
> He and I were roommates in the 1980's and we *rented* a house. �
> It didn't come with a refrigerator. I bought one.

What's "this house"? And what do you mean by "we rented"... did you
pay rent or did you collect rent?


> I don't think it's necessary to provide a refrigerator when you're selling a
> house. �Just an FYI, this is pretty much a place where retirees move. �It's
> not like some 20-somethings (who have absolutely nothing to their name) are
> going to buy the house. �People who move here are pretty well set and they
> probably have their own appliances. �

Most people don't move their appliances unless they're very high end.


It's not outside the realm of
> possiblity to throw in the washer and dryer and even the fridge when we sell
> the house. �

You're not "throwing it in", if there's an obvious space for an
appliance then the appliance should be present.


But I don't think we should have to provide one. �What are your
> thoughts?

When selling a house I think in most municipalities by law it needs to
have a stove, all other appliances are optional. Were it me selling a
house and the fridge wasn't working or looked shabby I'd replace it
with a basic new fridge (but more likely a used reconditioned fridge
from the local used appliance store). A working clean fridge is a
definite asset for negotiating a good price when selling a house, in
fact all appliances should work and be in good condition... they
needn't be new. Prospective buyers don't expect new appliances in a
resale, all new appliances will probably make them wary. If you tell
prospective buyers that you do not intend to leave appliances then you
are just complicating negotiations and not in your favor. Save
yourself a lot of grief and leave working appliances. And don't
attempt to pull a last minute switcheroo, people will notice and
you'll screw up your closing(these days home buyers carry digicams).
Now I'll read the rest of the responses.